20,000 protest outside Noda's residence

[ardo]

TOKYO (AFP) —

About 20,000 people gathered in front of Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda’s residence in Tokyo late Friday to protest his decision to restart two nuclear reactors.

“No to the restart!” shouted the protestors, who were led by investigative journalist Satoshi Kamata and Nobel Prize-winning author Kenzaburo Oe, who started an anti-nuclear petition that has so far gathered more than 7.5 million signatures.

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Last Saturday, Noda gave the green light to start work to put back online two reactors at the Oi plant in western Japan, despite public distrust in the technology since last year’s meltdowns at Fukushima.

Friday’s protest was the latest sign of unease over the decision which was taken in conjunction with local authorities and despite the fact that Noda had previously vowed not to act without public backing.

Protesters said they would hold another demonstration next week.

“The battle has only just begun”, insisted renowned composer Ryuichi Sakamoto, another leading figure in the anti-nuclear movement.

 

[kraidazen]

and the backlash begins

 

[EzikialRage]

I don't blame them. A worst case scenario with nuclear plants seem a whole lot worse than a worse case scenario with coal, wind and hydroelectric plants.

 

[roceil123]

So what would those protesters do if power companies starts rotating blackoutsuzzled:

Wait don't tell me BLAME THE GOVERNMENT.

 

[EzikialRage]

So what would those protesters do if power companies starts rotating blackoutsuzzled:

Demand that more solar power plants,trash to energy plants,coal plants or wind farms be built. Residents and companies could add solar panels and wind turbines to their homes and businesses to reduce overall demand.

 

[roceil123]

Demand that more solar power plants,trash to energy plants,coal plants or wind farms be built. Residents and companies could add solar panels and wind turbines to their homes and businesses to reduce overall demand.

Coal Plants? Are you serious? Not gonna add anymore comment on this one.

Solar Plants? hmmm wounder how EU or US progressed on this sector, last i hear not good. First COSTLY, the tech progressed yes but not enough.

Wind Farms? Maybe as long as it's strong enough. This part of the world typhoon alley after all.

Plant trash? Not there's an idea, like LPG and others but it's a limited type but heck if you got the land for it.

To sum up even if you have all of this it wont cut it if the people themselves don't conserve energy.
While i'm at it tell your power companies to NOT increase the bills while conserving energy under the pretext of losing profit.
In the first place they can't keep up w/ the demand but i guess they will find a way to increase your power bills.

 

[kraidazen]

To sum up even if you have all of this it wont cut it if the people themselves don't conserve energy.
While i'm at it tell your power companies to NOT increase the bills while conserving energy under the pretext of losing profit.
In the first place they can't keep up w/ the demand but i guess they will find a way to increase your power bills.

you neglected one thing: japan has grown beyond the constraints of basic energy sources. nuclear energy supports 1/3 of the japanese power grid. it's a lot more harder to come up with a solution to that problem. it's certainly beyond increasing energy bills and conserving energy solutions

 

[EzikialRage]

Coal Plants? Are you serious? Not gonna add anymore comment on this one.

I am sure that a worst case scenario with a coal plant is nowhere near as bad as a nuclear power plant.

Solar Plants? hmmm wounder how EU or US progressed on this sector, last i hear not good. First COSTLY, the tech progressed yes but not enough.

Japan is not the EU or the US. Japan is a small densely populated country.Government subsidy could reduce the costs for the consumers.When it comes to technology the Japanese seem be very innovative.

Wind Farms? Maybe as long as it's strong enough. This part of the world typhoon alley after all.

Wind turbines can be put on top of homes.

Plant trash? Not there's an idea, like LPG and others but it's a limited type but heck if you got the land for it.

Tokyo and many other cities in Japan are densely populated,so all that trash has got to go somewhere.So why not a trash to energy plant?

 

[roceil123]

Now then all plans are plans and it will take years to be fully functional.

So what's the immediate action to take to avert rolling black outs?

Turn on the Nuke Plants.
You can't go around it even if you cried blood.

Well not unless you want to sacrifice your factories then get it shifted to other countries.

 

[EzikialRage]

Now then all plans are plans and it will take years to be fully functional.
So what's the immediate action to take to avert rolling black outs?

It might take a few years to build fully functional coal and trash to energy plants but it shouldn't take years build wind farms or to install wind turbines and solar panels on top of buildings.

Turn on the Nuke Plants.
You can't go around it even if you cried blood.

Well not unless you want to sacrifice your factories then get it shifted to other countries.

If the Japanese do not want to worry about another Fukushima they will seek alternative means of energy and even seek to reduce their energy needs.

 

[roceil123]

Like i said to reduce the demand for power they need to shift their factories else where.

But that would mean lower income for the country and high unemployment oh wait is it already happening? just asking.

Every plan mentioned needs cash.
Unless the people in the government "donates" their salary to save their own country then better look somewhere else for the funds.

 

[ardo]

Tens of thousands protest

(AFP) – 12 hours ago

Tens of thousands of people rallied outside the Japanese prime minister's residence in Tokyo Friday in one of the largest demonstrations held against the restart of nuclear reactors.

The protesters, carrying placards which read "Rise up against the restart" and "The nuclear era is over," lined the streets around Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda's residence in central Tokyo as police watched on, according to an AFP photographer.

The main entrance to the residence was seen guarded by armoured vehicles and barricades of uniformed police.

Organisers quoted in local media estimated turnout exceeded 100,000 people, over double the turnout they estimated at a similar protest last week.

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A similar protest outside Noda's home last week saw a turnout of 45,000, according to organisers, though the media issued a more conservative figure of 20,000.

Smaller scale protests had been held every Friday outside the premier's residence since late March, and have been led in part by Nobel Prize-winning author Kenzaburo Oe, who started an anti-nuclear petition that has so far gathered more than 7.5 million signatures.

 

[MizugiLove]

"They do not want to worry about another Fukushima."?!?!?!?

They do not need to worry about the present Fukushima. The accident killed NOBODY! While coal, natural gas, and oil kill scores of people every month globally. All nuclear has against it is one accident in its over 50 year history that actually killed people. And that was only because it was a GEN 1 nuclear reactor and was managed so incompetently that recreating the conditions which caused the accident are nearly non-existent. All reactors outside the former USSR are GEN 2 or greater. They feature multiple redundant safety features that make a Chernobyl style accident nearly impossible. Multiple independent verification sources has concluded that NO harm came to the public or to the environment from the Three Mile Island accident. And the same thing now with Fukushima. Multiple independent sources state that no harm is likely to come to the public or to the surrounding environment because of the Fukushima accident.

People act as if solar and wind are limitless. They are not. They are based on how much land area you have.