A... Gay thread?!?!
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That was funny. I don't consider myself homophobic but it is okay with me if you are. I still love you man.....in a platonic no kissy kissy way of course.
I've never understood homophobia.
Myself, I'm an avowed hetero who has enjoyed a prolonged and very active hetero sex life. Some of my best and most trusted mates though are complete gayers whom I love unconditionally, even though a couple of them have tried, in days gone by, to get their hands on my goodies!
I guess I'm just a live and let live kind of guy!
In a world beset by hatred, fear and chaos you find love wherever you can.
I am, however, the mortal enemy of those who choose to prey on children!
Myself, I'm an avowed hetero who has enjoyed a prolonged and very active hetero sex life. Some of my best and most trusted mates though are complete gayers whom I love unconditionally, even though a couple of them have tried, in days gone by, to get their hands on my goodies!
I guess I'm just a live and let live kind of guy!
In a world beset by hatred, fear and chaos you find love wherever you can.
I am, however, the mortal enemy of those who choose to prey on children!
If your talking about meat hole, there is a difference between a vagina and anus. Not everyone wants to see that sort of stuff unless they are gay or bi. By anus, i'm refering to gay porn of the same sex. To me and alot of other people, that's really disgusting. To those saying there is no difference and should be considered the same category because it's porn, therefore it's the same. That's absolutely not true or considered normal to heterosexuals. Of course no offense to those who likes anal sex with the same sex, you can't expect others to accept that.
Vote no to keep the site the same, which is perfect. Don't squander your vote and think just because you don't care you will vote yes, your vote is important. If not for that, vote no to help maintain the intergrity and the image of the site. It's akiba online, not aki-bi
Okay, I'm sorry that i was not serious enough. Although i often watch male/female anal movies (male have sex with female), i really really don't like gay sex, it's very very disgusting. So my vote to a gay thread is NO. Just keep this great site (akiba-online) pure with girls and boys/girls. ^^
i voted yes.
it would be a "double standard" to vote no (well, for somebody like me anyway).
we have no right to deny gay videos from being posted on AO when we are allowing "provocative" u-15 videos on here.
it just isn't right.
and you guys know it isn't.
the world would rather see "gay vids" than to see "u-15 vids".
i love "u-15" videos btw. but i hate "double standards".
THIS is a "double standard".
& that's my two cents on the topic.
it would be a "double standard" to vote no (well, for somebody like me anyway).
we have no right to deny gay videos from being posted on AO when we are allowing "provocative" u-15 videos on here.
it just isn't right.
and you guys know it isn't.
the world would rather see "gay vids" than to see "u-15 vids".
i love "u-15" videos btw. but i hate "double standards".
THIS is a "double standard".
& that's my two cents on the topic.
As someone who put forth similar thoughts in this thread, I definitely agree with your viewpoint and appreciate your input. However, It would seem this thread has run its course.
The thread has been up for 3 months, the argument has been had, and there has been no further discussion or notification of any actual changes to be implemented. I think that's a pretty clear indication that there's no intent to make any adjustments to site policy or "silent" policy.
We don't have to like or agree with it (I don't) but that's, apparently, just the way it is. :dunno:
If this truly is a dead issue, it may not be a bad idea to just close this thread like the "speech" thread. The discussion can be polarizing. Just a thought, anyways. :negligent:
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(I don't mind adding it another thought to the topic) Ah yes, the word double standards. I'll show you why it's not a double standard.
If we started to have idol gay men on the site, what would happen? it's going to be an uproar because that's a negative thing.
the thing with [BOY] videos now it's appealing to gay men again (or bisexuals) it's softcore gay porn.
What about the U-15 girl videos? Sure that's a negative, of course to society right? However it's not for gay people at all, as gay hardcore or softcore porn will cause an uproar of unacceptance on the site.
So what is my point? My point is having gay soft core, underage is two things negative. U-15 girls is only one thing negative. Really if you put in into percentages let's give it 33.3% negative each.
33.3% = porn for gays (or bisexuals)
33.3% = gay underage soft core
33.% = u-15 girl videos.
equals to 100% of the negatively and opposition from society in general.
The only double standard only counts for 66.6% of the problem in terms of society I suppose and 33.3% in common as the double standard of underage soft core porn. The gay soft core porn is overall slightly more negative in terms of tolerance of the site. Ppl should stop throwing the word double standards, the only thing that is double standards is 33.3% of the negativity to society that it's under 15 videos. The rest is a step beyond the double standards those throwing out that term isn't acknowledging.
Of course I say this with all due respect and not to offend anyone. It's more than a double standards if you do the math. Ppl who doesn't agree is attracted to the 66.6% due to bisexuality which we now accept because alot of us after this thread didn't really insult them for it for those [BOY] threads now. However the votes speaks for themselves, a majority of the ppl really feels uncomfortable about it. 64.4% feels unconfortable and doesn't support it.
I find it slightly humours last time when there was a new [BOY] video then everyone who is homosexual or bisexual kept bumping those topics probally justifying it with the word double standard. I mean I have to totally click around it with effort since there is like six different threads or more now, no need to bump it all at once a week ago, even if your excited. Remember, double standards is only 33.3% the same in terms of underage. There is still the other negative how it's targetted towards bisexuals and homosexuals, considering male idols over 18 would cause an uproar of unacceptance, [boy] videos are only tolerated because it's underaged, the double standards as you say. If there was gay hardcore or softcore adult porn, it will not be tolerated here imo at all, there will be alot of opposition more than now.
Vote no because double standards isn't the full problem, it's only 33.3% of the problem in common, it's also gay soft core porn that only appeals to homosexuals and bisexuals, not heterosexuals. Like I said I mean no offense, we are opposing you, however silently, we tolerate it now no problem after discussing it here. We understand it now and I don't really mind if you label it appropriately. Peace out and remember not everyone is bisexual and will understand you, put yourselves in our shoes if you can, the part of your bisexuality where you like females only. Like I said I don't mind if you label it, just don't go justifying the word double standards not considering everything and I mean no offense because most of us doesn't mind it if it's labled since we can tolerate that, there is no need for a new forum for it. Peace and continue to vote no because things are working out well this way with no changes to the forum.
If we started to have idol gay men on the site, what would happen? it's going to be an uproar because that's a negative thing.
the thing with [BOY] videos now it's appealing to gay men again (or bisexuals) it's softcore gay porn.
What about the U-15 girl videos? Sure that's a negative, of course to society right? However it's not for gay people at all, as gay hardcore or softcore porn will cause an uproar of unacceptance on the site.
So what is my point? My point is having gay soft core, underage is two things negative. U-15 girls is only one thing negative. Really if you put in into percentages let's give it 33.3% negative each.
33.3% = porn for gays (or bisexuals)
33.3% = gay underage soft core
33.% = u-15 girl videos.
equals to 100% of the negatively and opposition from society in general.
The only double standard only counts for 66.6% of the problem in terms of society I suppose and 33.3% in common as the double standard of underage soft core porn. The gay soft core porn is overall slightly more negative in terms of tolerance of the site. Ppl should stop throwing the word double standards, the only thing that is double standards is 33.3% of the negativity to society that it's under 15 videos. The rest is a step beyond the double standards those throwing out that term isn't acknowledging.
Of course I say this with all due respect and not to offend anyone. It's more than a double standards if you do the math. Ppl who doesn't agree is attracted to the 66.6% due to bisexuality which we now accept because alot of us after this thread didn't really insult them for it for those [BOY] threads now. However the votes speaks for themselves, a majority of the ppl really feels uncomfortable about it. 64.4% feels unconfortable and doesn't support it.
I find it slightly humours last time when there was a new [BOY] video then everyone who is homosexual or bisexual kept bumping those topics probally justifying it with the word double standard. I mean I have to totally click around it with effort since there is like six different threads or more now, no need to bump it all at once a week ago, even if your excited. Remember, double standards is only 33.3% the same in terms of underage. There is still the other negative how it's targetted towards bisexuals and homosexuals, considering male idols over 18 would cause an uproar of unacceptance, [boy] videos are only tolerated because it's underaged, the double standards as you say. If there was gay hardcore or softcore adult porn, it will not be tolerated here imo at all, there will be alot of opposition more than now.
Vote no because double standards isn't the full problem, it's only 33.3% of the problem in common, it's also gay soft core porn that only appeals to homosexuals and bisexuals, not heterosexuals. Like I said I mean no offense, we are opposing you, however silently, we tolerate it now no problem after discussing it here. We understand it now and I don't really mind if you label it appropriately. Peace out and remember not everyone is bisexual and will understand you, put yourselves in our shoes if you can, the part of your bisexuality where you like females only. Like I said I don't mind if you label it, just don't go justifying the word double standards not considering everything and I mean no offense because most of us doesn't mind it if it's labled since we can tolerate that, there is no need for a new forum for it. Peace and continue to vote no because things are working out well this way with no changes to the forum.
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I'm literally laughing so hard my sides hurt!
andalaugh:You should write a book, seriously! Make sure nobody proof-reads or makes corrections to it before it goes to print. 300 pages of this drivel would be a comedy best seller, no doubt!
I've gotta quote this just to make sure it survives any editing. Classic, man. You're too much! :rofl:
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Oh well, i'm sure he's probally some how trying to say something in opposition since his views (bisexual) are in total opposition from mine. Probally desperately trying to discredit me anyway he can unsucessfully, who knows who cares. Maybe if I was to say something, maybe you shouldn't bump all those [BOY] threads when one new one gets made. We get it, one thread isn't connected to six different threads at the same time, it's only one thread, I know your excited, it makes it difficult to navagate around it last week. With all due respect and I do say with all due respect.
Also like I said seriously, that double standards is only a fraction of the commonality, there are other things we oppose to that's not part of the double standards other people doesn't mention. Like how it's gay soft core porn. If there was gay porn on the forum, adult idol and gay hardcore porn, the community would be in an uproar and will see more opposition (in terms of how society sees it as a double negative opposed to staight U-15 which is only a single negative) That's why I think it's more than a double standard, the double standard of U-15 is only a small part of the commonality yet it's the word mostly used to justify it, that's half the story. That's my opinion and I say it with all due respect, that there are those out there that might disagree with you, they are the ones who voted no. Still most of us tolerate it and doesn't really care, if you label it.
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Oh well, i'm sure he's probally some how trying to say something in opposition since his views (bisexual) are in total opposition from mine. Probally desperately trying to discredit me anyway he can unsucessfully, who knows who cares. Maybe if I was to say something, maybe you shouldn't bump all those [BOY] threads when one new one gets made. We get it, one thread isn't connected to six different threads at the same time, it's only one thread, I know your excited, it makes it difficult to navagate around it last week. With all due respect and I do say with all due respect.
Also like I said seriously, that double standards is only a fraction of the commonality, there are other things we oppose to that's not part of the double standards other people doesn't mention. Like how it's gay soft core porn. If there was gay porn on the forum, adult idol and gay hardcore porn, the community would be in an uproar and will see more opposition (in terms of how society sees it as a double negative opposed to staight U-15 which is only a single negative) That's why I think it's more than a double standard, the double standard of U-15 is only a small part of the commonality yet it's the word mostly used to justify it, that's half the story. That's my opinion and I say it with all due respect, that there are those out there that might disagree with you, they are the ones who voted no. Still most of us tolerate it and doesn't really care, if you label it.
I hear ya TIMN! When were sneakin' around that nasty little U15 area and there's all them BOY vids!
Kind of turns AO into a cyber "Ouija Board" as that mouse feels like it's 300 pounds as unforseen forces lands that cursor right on the BOY vid link and won't move!
You try with all your might to keep your quivering index finger from clicking the link and you succeed... this time, but the list of pubescent feminine joy is long and spackled with titles of evil boyness. It's almost too much!
mg: You only want to see the U12's, but there's the powerful force moving that mouse with superhuman strength ever so close to the next unwanted opportunity with all that evil negativity... another BOY vid!!!:exhausted:
.................... :nooo: "Curse you Ouija!!"
You paint such a vivid picture. I had no idea that TMNT...I mean TIMN was experiencing such a terrifying ordeal!
It must be really unnerving for him. Sitting there in the dark, nude, sweat dripping down his face, staring at that unsettling tag. That [BOY] tag. Knowing whats on the other side of the link. Unable to look away. Mouse drawing ever closer. Slowly. SLOWLY. The link is clicked! There's a signpost up ahead - next stop: THE BI-LIGHT ZONE!
mg:Remember, though, thisisbiname has already done the math for this. That evil negativity is only a half negative as opposed to the 145% negative that would result if two men are hugging. This results in a negative gay zone ratio of a bajillion percent, and that's just half the story. If you divide this by gay to the 3rd power you get 58008, which, as we all know, is an inversion of the word BOOBS. This is, of course, a decoy created to lure you into thinking that being different is OK, because its clear that absolutely everything is part of a secret agenda to make thisisbiname FULL ON GAY! :tehheh::gayprance:
Scary stuff, man! :dunno:
Yeah it reminds me of pac man avoiding all the obstacles last week or a retro arcade game like space invaders trying to avoid being shot at. Trying to navigate around all the [BOY] videos. I mean does all the videos need to be bumped at the same time? Like ppl are gay pride parading. Sure no one minds a gay pride parade on the street blocking traffic because it's tolerated just like seeing a thread there in the U-15 being bumped. However it was crowded last week driving, it was difficult to get to my real destination, U-15 straight material. Lol. Then again, vote no to keep things the same, it was okay because it didn't really happen again this week.
The funny thing is everytime there is a thread like that, I see lowleg's name as the last poster there. It won't be a [BOY] thread unless he post there bumping it. No offense, however that's the truth. What would happen if there was a new [BOY] video there next week? Will all the threads be bumped at the same time again? Do we need all this gay pride parading trying to make everyone acknowledge it? Ppl might break their keyboards typing the world double standards in those threads, those letters wouldn't work well anymore and they would have to replace their keyboard, or anything with the word double standard That's all they will probally be typing when only there is a 33.3% commonality which is considered a negative to society in general, which is they are U-15. There forgot to mention the other double negative which is if the site posted adult gay porn or adult softcore porn idol videos, there will probally be alot of opposition because it's targetted towards gays or bisexuals.
Imagine you use the same arguement for allowing gay porn on the forum, i'm talking about jav. You keep saying the word double standards, double standard so much like it's going to go out of style. It's not the same btw, maybe you didn't realise that it's a double negative and there is nothing negative about jav at all for example. U-15 softcore is a single negative to society because it's under 15, don't ignore the double negative of gay softcore material. Like I said with all due respect and I do mean with all due respect. I'm straight btw we already discussed that earlier in the thread, it's just you ppl can't understand how anyone can oppose you when low leg admitted he was a bisexual like alot of people did, that doesn't make everyone one else magically bi here who frequents the U-15 section of the forum. Not everyone has the same desires as you because you can't step into our shoes and understand why anyone will oppose your views. Maybe you don't see it as a double negative (u-15 and softcore gay porn) because I do. If I was like you, I wouldn't be oppossing your opinion, I have nothing to gain by opposing it, I would of said nothing. I mean after this thread before, I realise alot of akiba is aki-bi, however not everyone, who voted no.
The funny thing is everytime there is a thread like that, I see lowleg's name as the last poster there. It won't be a [BOY] thread unless he post there bumping it. No offense, however that's the truth. What would happen if there was a new [BOY] video there next week? Will all the threads be bumped at the same time again? Do we need all this gay pride parading trying to make everyone acknowledge it? Ppl might break their keyboards typing the world double standards in those threads, those letters wouldn't work well anymore and they would have to replace their keyboard, or anything with the word double standard That's all they will probally be typing when only there is a 33.3% commonality which is considered a negative to society in general, which is they are U-15. There forgot to mention the other double negative which is if the site posted adult gay porn or adult softcore porn idol videos, there will probally be alot of opposition because it's targetted towards gays or bisexuals.
Imagine you use the same arguement for allowing gay porn on the forum, i'm talking about jav. You keep saying the word double standards, double standard so much like it's going to go out of style. It's not the same btw, maybe you didn't realise that it's a double negative and there is nothing negative about jav at all for example. U-15 softcore is a single negative to society because it's under 15, don't ignore the double negative of gay softcore material. Like I said with all due respect and I do mean with all due respect. I'm straight btw we already discussed that earlier in the thread, it's just you ppl can't understand how anyone can oppose you when low leg admitted he was a bisexual like alot of people did, that doesn't make everyone one else magically bi here who frequents the U-15 section of the forum. Not everyone has the same desires as you because you can't step into our shoes and understand why anyone will oppose your views. Maybe you don't see it as a double negative (u-15 and softcore gay porn) because I do. If I was like you, I wouldn't be oppossing your opinion, I have nothing to gain by opposing it, I would of said nothing. I mean after this thread before, I realise alot of akiba is aki-bi, however not everyone, who voted no.
Holy sh*t! Some posters are long-winded.
What I want to know is why moderators say they will delete 'gay' porn videos and not [BOY] videos? That seems like a double standard to me. If [BOY] videos are to be allowed I think that another sub-forum might be appropriate. I just don't think [BOY] videos belong in the U-15 section. It is a different animal altogether.
My two cents.
What I want to know is why moderators say they will delete 'gay' porn videos and not [BOY] videos? That seems like a double standard to me. If [BOY] videos are to be allowed I think that another sub-forum might be appropriate. I just don't think [BOY] videos belong in the U-15 section. It is a different animal altogether.
My two cents.
I'd like to interject something serious, if I could.
Since the purpose of the thread is supposedly to gauge the merits of having a "gay" section and determine whether or not its warranted to have one, would a mod or admin or ANYONE please explain what criteria needs to be met or what threshold needs to be passed before there's actually a decision made on the matter?
If there is no actual intent to make a change, regardless of support, why not just say so, amend the current rules, and close the thread? If there is openness to change, what needs to happen first? What do you want to see before you allow it?
It makes zero sense to leave a discussion like this open without leaving some hint of where the discussion needs to go for the dialogue to evolve. :dunno:
Without some further information this thread will probably just pop up every so often and never reach actual resolution. I don't support the idea of denying people the right to post legitimate content, but if admin has decided to continue to silently ban such content why not just amend the rules to reflect that? At least that will put an end to the discussion.
I'd also like to apologize to those individuals who voted 'no'. I apologize that the person who is most vocal for your position is a person who rides the short bus. Rest assured, everyone who voted 'yes' realizes that not all of you are half-retarded bigots. There are many (if not all but one) who voted 'no' who are reasonable, competent members who actually care about and contribute to the community. I'm sorry that the most outspoken among you has to wear a helmet at all times.
Since the purpose of the thread is supposedly to gauge the merits of having a "gay" section and determine whether or not its warranted to have one, would a mod or admin or ANYONE please explain what criteria needs to be met or what threshold needs to be passed before there's actually a decision made on the matter?
If there is no actual intent to make a change, regardless of support, why not just say so, amend the current rules, and close the thread? If there is openness to change, what needs to happen first? What do you want to see before you allow it?
It makes zero sense to leave a discussion like this open without leaving some hint of where the discussion needs to go for the dialogue to evolve. :dunno:
Without some further information this thread will probably just pop up every so often and never reach actual resolution. I don't support the idea of denying people the right to post legitimate content, but if admin has decided to continue to silently ban such content why not just amend the rules to reflect that? At least that will put an end to the discussion.
I'd also like to apologize to those individuals who voted 'no'. I apologize that the person who is most vocal for your position is a person who rides the short bus. Rest assured, everyone who voted 'yes' realizes that not all of you are half-retarded bigots. There are many (if not all but one) who voted 'no' who are reasonable, competent members who actually care about and contribute to the community. I'm sorry that the most outspoken among you has to wear a helmet at all times.
I don't know... I say leave the thread be. This thread is like an ant farm, kinda cool to come here every once in a while to see the progress, if any....:casual:
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BTW....did ya spot the Gay ant?
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BTW....did ya spot the Gay ant?
Homosexuals or bisexuals like you often accuses others of their own problems, I suppose your implying me for that gay ant. Don't project your own problems on me. I am not gay and I know because you said that, you probally are. You somehow think we have something in common, we don't. I could find an earlier quote where you probally said you were a bisexual, however to call me gay because I want to avoid boy threads?
Go to society and call society gay because they don't like boy threads or gay material. I dare you, they aren't gay, they will think there is something wrong with you. Get real, your totally out of touch with reality and don't realise how negative or a double negative society views all of this. I guess anyone out there opposing gay material is also gay too by your logic. Keep telling yourself that. How is anyone suppose to oppose what is a double negative if you keep calling everyone gay or bi, just because you are? 90% of normal society will agree with my views over yours.
Also why is gay jav not allowed, it's simple, jav is not negative, fetish is half negative, gay is full negative. I don't want to see it on the forum. Boy videos are a double negative, gay soft core and it's also u-15. U-15 straight is only one negative, it's tolerated I belive because of the double standard, U-15 otherwise gay material imo would never be allowed in terms of JAV.
If I was like you ppl, then I too will go to your disgusting threads (no offense, however you don't realise how everyone else sees it because you desire it) then keep writing the word double standard, double standard when you really are lucky to have any gay material to begin with. Really the finger pointing should be in your direction, not towards anyone who objects. I frequent the U-15 section of the forum, however not everyone there is bisexual, maybe half, not all. I am only speaking for the silent majority. If you think i'm gay, good for you, however I know your gay and pretending to be bi, or just a bisexual who thinks i'm just like him. I will continue to oppose your views respectfully, however your finger pointing is baseless and not respectful at all. The only gay ants are the ones bumping the boy threads and throwing the word around double negative, then accusing people. Don't mistaken my avoidance as homophobia, it's more out of disgust, something you really don't understand.
Remember this quote? you were the first one to expose the truth how a third of the ants are bisexuals, your bisexuality among others and explaining why they are in the U-15 section of the forum.
You said you weren't gay, yet hinted at being a bisexual, you said it again even after a few months with your latest post, you have bisexuality at the back of your mind when you were accusing and the word gay. Those are your interpretations since we all interpret the world differently. You have a bisexual mind and thoughts, before when you answered my question why they were on this board, you said they were bisexual. I honestly didn't know anything about that or would of guessed. I don't have a bisexual or gay mind, you people don't realise maybe some people find that stuff disgusting. You can't fault people for that and accuse them because of it. It's really disrespectful, especially when the gay pride parade starts pointing fingers at the straight ppl in the crowds. I was looking back at the thread and your the one posting some guy with a dick saying happy easter and you have the right to point fingers? Get real
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