Mysteries of IENE-149

jugulear

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When one does not know Japanese, one can only guess at what is happening on screen... as far as the plot or theme. Let's see if you can get a sense out of IENE-149.

There are three stories in IENE-149, translated here and there as “Incest! Checking Out Her Son Jacking Off,” or “Watching Mother Jerk-off Her Son.”

What is taking place is that a pair of females is getting picked up off the street.
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They are lured into an apartment.

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They are offered money.

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They are asked to hide their faces. and the male talent sits beside them, awaiting with a "surprise."

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There appears to be a glint of recognition. Based on the title, one of the women is obviously the fellow's mother.

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Through cash and other incentives, they are persuaded to get closer to the goods.

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It's not long before physical contact takes place

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Leading to greater intimacy

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The action escalates

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The goofy translations for this flick are as thus:

I got to participate in the appreciation Senzuri to pick up a married woman, the wife of one of the strange appearance very much. While staring the actor depressed Dari, that H Although the clamor from pocket money, in fact I was the son is actor!

Or

I got to participate in the appreciation Senzuri to pick up a married woman, wife, how strange a people very much. Shyness and visible actor and also appeared as in staring at another, even as depressed. However, you have me for a H that can not get pocket money in the meeting that there is no appreciation Senzuri forces with friends, in fact I was the son is actor!

("Sensuri" is a Japanese euphemism for masturbation.)

Let me also throw in additional clues, in the form of screen shots:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/dc7de5194550457
As well as:
http://www.asianscreens.com/products/120530/covers/screenshots/47587.jpg

(DMM link: http://www.dmm.co.jp/mono/dvd/-/detail/=/cid=1iene149/)

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So my questions are these:

It looks like the women are not randomly picked up in nampa style, but specifically targeted. Looks like it's a set-up if one of the ladies is the mother of the male talent. Of course, it doesn't make sense, because the moment a real mother gets confronted by her exposed son - especially in a filmed environment - a freak-out would ensue. I know the viewer has to take these things with a grain of salt, but I was wondering how she could possibly be convinced to actually have sexual contact with the son.

But my main question is this:

Who is the other woman??

(Could she be the daughter?)

Finally, while I'm aware this is not the thread for JAV idol identifications, I found the thinner-faced woman very appealing, and I wondered if you might have a bead on who she is.

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The "Sougouwiki" site offers clues. There are three stories, and there is a pair of women in each. Apparently in order, the actresses are:

Sanae Hoshikawa (星川早苗)
Ayako Kano (加納綾子)

Miwa Nagao (長尾みわ) (MOM, I think)
Yuka (ゆうか)

Minako Uchida (田美奈子) (MOM, I think)
Takahashi (高橋)

Looks like she has to be either Sanae Hoshikawa or Ayako Kano, neither of whom have many starring roles to their credits. I did check out a rare Ayako Kano starrer, Wife Shaved and Returned [UPSM-154], but her face looked rounder and different. A rare Sanae Hoshikawa starrer, Shameless [YAG-027], offers screen shots and she does not bear much resemblance either.

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Thanks for your thoughts. If you'd like to check out the movie, you can download it from here. (927.47 MB 241m)





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bongorider

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yeah it's definitely Sanae Hoshikawa. Looking at the screenshot's from her other stuff I couldn't see how it was the same woman either, but if you check:
http://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/detail/=/cid=436dog00005/
look at screenshot 4, check out her ear
compare it to screenshot number 3 on this page:
http://www.asianscreens.com/products/120530/covers/screenshots/47587.jpg

you can see that ear is kind of unmistakable. No idea why she looks so much hotter in this that in any of her other stuff.
 

jugulear

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You went beyond the call of duty there, Bongorider; I am impressed with your detective work, thank you.

Looks like only one who knows Japanese and who watches the movie will understand whom that other woman may be, and how the operators persuaded the ladies to get down and dirty.

(Of course they are all actors, CFUD... even in those far more realistic "nampa" movies where the action seems head-scratchingly off-the-cuff.)

Yes, Maload, the stereotype of the porn-watcher is that they prefer to use their little brain, rarely their big one. And it's not only the porn-watchers, in this day and age of the short attention span, who frown upon reading. Yet we have to believe there are still people out there appreciating the written word, and one may still find a "kid" or two who bucks the trend.

In the case where a riddle is posed, and detective work may be involved, it's always better to provide the necessary information so as to minimize the chance for confusion. Those with less patience can always "fast-forward" and skip the words they don't want to read... as we do with the porn and other movies.
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Electromog

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I always like the movies better if they have an interesting "story", even though I know it's all fake.

As I don't speak Japanese, I can't always figure out what they're pretending is happening, but when I do, it increases my excitement. So some people do indeed care about the story.
 

DavidSawah

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I always like the movies better if they have an interesting "story", even though I know it's all fake.

As I don't speak Japanese, I can't always figure out what they're pretending is happening, but when I do, it increases my excitement. So some people do indeed care about the story.

yeah, its good even though its "fake". people role play with their significant other all the time. adds a little something to it. same with these movies. its a shame these don't have subtitles. I wish there was a way to get these translated.
 

jchouktv

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It's all fake, you shouldn't waste your time investigating like this :pandalaugh:

but reading your thread was funny :p
 

jugulear

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Yes, I believe we have already established the movie is "fake," Jchouktv; that was never a point of consideration. All movies are "fake." Even documentaries are "fake," in a sense, given the points-of-view of the filmmakers, making choices of what to include, and what to cut out.

If you go to a movie site such as the IMDB, for example, there is no end to readers' comments involving questions on what did such-and-such mean? You see, when we watch movies, the fantasy and imagination elements take over. It helps one's enjoyment of a movie when you connect point A to point B. Now some porno-heads might be outraged at this idea, because all one needs (among the hetero and lesbian crowds anyway) is a naked woman having sex. But since all such porn involves naked women having sex, just that visual impact doesn't always do it. Our "turn-on" mechanisms get enhanced when we have an appreciation for the story, or at least the set-up.

This is, in fact, the main reason why JAV is frequently a cut above American porn. American porn-makers often have a disrespect for their audience, ignoring the realities of even their gonzo movies, because (I suppose) they have come to the conclusion their audience does not need to think. All that is necessary is a naked woman having sex.
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jugulear

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Oh, no, my beautiful attachments from the first page are gone forever. (I already knew that, but I felt like lamenting.)

I came across a question regarding IENE-149 in the I.D. section, and it reminded me of this old thread of mine. I had posed two questions, one regarding the identity of an actress I liked (thanks again for the solution, Bongorider), but the other mystery of IENE-149 still remains a mystery. If you happen to have this movie that more folks than usual are asking questions about (another I discovered is here), perhaps you can lend brainpower regarding my remaining question. Here is the way I see I phrased it, on Page One:

It looks like the women are not randomly picked up in nampa style, but specifically targeted. Looks like it's a set-up if one of the ladies is the mother of the male talent. Of course, it doesn't make sense, because the moment a real mother gets confronted by her exposed son - especially in a filmed environment - a freak-out would ensue. I know the viewer has to take these things with a grain of salt, but I was wondering how she could possibly be convinced to actually have sexual contact with the son.

Afterthoughts... it's not simply the mother, since the younger woman of the womanly pair is presumably her daughter. That is, the sister of the guy with the exposed man-thing - a sister who is also not going to think incest is the greatest thing in the world.

EDIT: Hold on a second; just re-read that post of mine, and we don't know if the younger lady is the daughter. So there are two remaining questions, or as I originally phrased my "main" question:

Who is the other woman??
(Could she be the daughter?)


In case they will come in handy, I see the screen shots I included on Page One are still working.


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The back cover description says they are friends, not mother and daughter. I think this is the main clue. The mothers in this movie don't want the fact that the miserable SENZURI (not sensuri) man is her own son to be revealed to the friends. And the first mother is described as timid. The second, to help the son. The third, for fear of the friend's pregnancy.
 
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mightyeel

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The back cover description says they are friends, not mother and daughter. I think this is the main clue. The mothers in this movie don't want the fact that the miserable SENZURI (not sensuri) man is her own son to be revealed to the friends. And the first mother is described as timid. The second, to help the son. The third, for fear of the friend's pregnancy.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Who is the girl in your avatar by the way?