New age of adulthood

Javstar13

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18 is the new legal age now in japan i wonder what kinda effect this will have on the AV industry Thoughts?
 

maload

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i dont think there is a chance that they will allow girl under 18 in jav

its for protect kids and i dont think that japan will forget it.
 

Casshern2

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18 is the new legal age now in japan i wonder what kinda effect this will have on the AV industry Thoughts?
Call me irresponsible...but I didn't know it wasn't 18. (Does that make me a fake fan?!?)

What was it before now?
 

mago

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Age of consent in Japan is 13 years old. Most people didn't know that. I didn't know that until I stumbled upon Nobita's (or someone else) youtube vid about odd Japanese laws.
Its about the new "age of adulthood" and not about the age of consent<- which is stupid since both should be correlated but pedos rule the world.
 
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TheDuke07

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Pretty sure it doesn't change anything the age of consent =/= legal age to produce porn. Hell JAV is barely legal by being 'not' porn thru censorship.
 
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mago

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Pretty sure it doesn't change anything the age of consent =/= legal age to produce porn. Hell JAV is barely legal by being 'not' porn thru censorship.
I think there will be even more porn and i will probably consume it.:swt:(18+ of course)
Since porn is a social problem, this is just throwing more wood on the fire.
 

ding73ding

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Japan's justice and law enforcement is a whole different thing from the rest of the world, it's kinda useless to isolate one factoid and have a conversation (in English).

We (over in a semi-private chat group) had a whole discussion with one guy pulling almost-live JP news reports (a lot less exciting than CSPAN) as the law and policy (hard to tell the difference) was debated in JP parliament and interviews. My 10-foot-pole view is it's a lot of hot air amounting to nothing.

One thing that I was vaguely "feeling" for a couple years and got confirmed by some stats guy was this: in last 5 years, loli JAV is trending down big time. The average age of both top-10 ranked idols and fresh face debutants are trending older quite dramatically in last few years.

Don't hold your breath if you expect to see a lot of teenager JAVs.

In this whole discussion, there was (I think last year?) a serious proposal by at least one serious politician that on-camera showing, with mosaic, of genitals (with or without insertion) should be banned. Luckily it turned out to be even less concrete/actionable than the 18-year legal age thing so JAV is still safe for now. But don't think the cultural/political trend is relaxing about morality policing of JAV.
 

hoochimama

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Wasn't the JAV requirement already that they were 18+ (rather than legally adults in japan) to comply with international law? Japan can change the age of adulthood to 25 or 15, it won't matter when it comes to "porn".
 

ding73ding

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Wasn't the JAV requirement already that they were 18+ (rather than legally adults in japan) to comply with international law? Japan can change the age of adulthood to 25 or 15, it won't matter when it comes to "porn".
I'm not aware of applicable "international law", what's gonna happen? FBI or NYPD will parachute down with AR-15 blazing? Or better, Shria police will patrol Akiba back-alleys?

Holland legal porn age is 16, there is a major porn brand called something-something-16. So even within EU there's no common standard. (at least when I lived there 20 years ago).
 

hoochimama

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Holland legal porn age is 16, there is a major porn brand called something-something-16. So even within EU there's no common standard. (at least when I lived there 20 years ago).
The dutch teen thing ended a good while ago. It's 18+.

And I'm referring to the laws of most of the developed world, actionable not only through international organizations like interpol, but UN human rights orgs, boycotts, financial and trade sanctions if need be etc. Too much international pressure for Japan to not follow the simple 18+ for "porn" rule, even if it wanted to do otherwise. Which I don't think it does, there's no real benefit in it for the japanese mafias who control the sex industry.
 
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maelstrom9999

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Others have touched on it, but there is an age of consent for sex law, and there is a kiddy porn law. In Japan, it's kiddy porn if any performer is under 18, just like everywhere else.
 

krama

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There won't be much change.

18 year olds were allowed to work in adult industries already before this change.
What changed is that now 18 year olds are able to sign legal contracts without a parent, which before the required age was 21.

In the past some assholes lured 18 year old girls into porn and forced them to sign contracts. There were lawsuits which made these contracts void.
Now this won't happen as easily because the required age for signing contracts was lowered.

Bad news for innocent, naiive girls.
 
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Albert Tatlock

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I'm not aware of applicable "international law", what's gonna happen? FBI or NYPD will parachute down with AR-15 blazing? Or better, Shria police will patrol Akiba back-alleys?

Holland legal porn age is 16, there is a major porn brand called something-something-16. So even within EU there's no common standard. (at least when I lived there 20 years ago).
As mentioned above, the minimum age for porn performers has been 18 for quite a while. The age of consent still varies greatly though across the world.

Back in the 1970's young girls could legally appear naked in magazines and movies in most of the European countries. The mainstram movie "Walkabout" starred a 16 year old Jenny Agutter who was completely naked for an extended scene. Again the minimum age for this varied from country to country. A lot of Dutch porn magazines of the 1970's featured very young naked girls, some only 13 years old.

The worst offenders though were the Danish publishers of "Color Climax", not only did they feature young girls in sex acts, they actively encouraged their readership to take pornographic pictures with their children and to send them in for publication. Their magazines had to be censored depending on which country they were distributed in. The Danish distributions being of course uncensored.

I think it was late 70's or early 80's when Europe woke up to what it as doing and all the western European countries, including Denmark and Holland, quickly changed their laws to protect children from appearing in porn. Some countries however were much slower on banning of underage nudity. I think it my have been early 1980's before UK mainstream newspapers stopped printing topless pictures of 16 and 17 year old models and I believe it was later still in countries like Germany.
 

Electromog

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It was way later in the Netherlands. They didn't raise the minimum age to be in porn from 16 to 18 until 2002.
 

krama

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As mentioned above, the minimum age for porn performers has been 18 for quite a while. The age of consent still varies greatly though across the world.

Back in the 1970's young girls could legally appear naked in magazines and movies in most of the European countries. The mainstram movie "Walkabout" starred a 16 year old Jenny Agutter who was completely naked for an extended scene. Again the minimum age for this varied from country to country. A lot of Dutch porn magazines of the 1970's featured very young naked girls, some only 13 years old.

The worst offenders though were the Danish publishers of "Color Climax", not only did they feature young girls in sex acts, they actively encouraged their readership to take pornographic pictures with their children and to send them in for publication. Their magazines had to be censored depending on which country they were distributed in. The Danish distributions being of course uncensored.

I think it was late 70's or early 80's when Europe woke up to what it as doing and all the western European countries, including Denmark and Holland, quickly changed their laws to protect children from appearing in porn. Some countries however were much slower on banning of underage nudity. I think it my have been early 1980's before UK mainstream newspapers stopped printing topless pictures of 16 and 17 year old models and I believe it was later still in countries like Germany.
There were still "underage" (15-17 year olds) nudes in german youth magazine "Bravo" in the 90s and early 00s. Though, it depends on the definition of "porn" in each country. Not every piece of nudity is automatically porn. That's probably why it was still published.