Religion in JAV

[jugulear]

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I was reading Dagu's "Christian Symbols in JAV Movies" and was impressed with the intellectual discussion; I contemplated adding to the enlightenment in an intelligent way, but then my brain started to hurt and then I thought about doing the next worst thing. Why don't we provide examples of religion in JAV?

As Gokkun Punch put it, "the appeal is ... the juxtaposition of the sacred with the carnal."

Let me throw out a few examples to get us started.

As a caveat, keeping in mind one point that Ding73ding raised, the "widow (未亡人) genre"... we know many of the widow movies include a scene with the lady in black praying over a table with a photo of her dead husband, candles, and the like; that's not the kind of thing we'll be talking about. Rather, we'll be considering the types of movies where religion plays a prominent role. So never mind the widow movies, unless it's the kind where a priest is involved... as with the example we will be starting off with.

Prominent Parishioner's Widow Violated By Grotesque Men [SMA-582]



Later in the movie, the yucky men of the filth squad make their moves upon the beautiful Maki Hojo, including the adorable Grotesque Guy.




The movie that really inspired this thread in my mind was the following:

Cult Leader Mind Controls Mothers and Daughters - 24 Person [PLOD-237]



This flick did not live up to its potential far as I'm concerned, getting far too repetitive with no variations on the formula. There is also a predecessor, Cult Leader Molesting Mother and Daughter Believers in Rituals [PLOD-177]:




You just know those serious FA-PRO movies would be exploiting such a "dramatic" angle, as with one of the chapters of Human Life is a Pornographic Tale Without End - Carnal Hell of the Married Woman Done By the Head Priest at a Temple ... (etc.) [FAX-380]


I suppose that would be Kana Mochizuki?

Finally, we've got:

Lesbian Nun - Greedy Nun's Artifice for Triple Lesbian Sex [AUKG-191], starring Chihiro Kitagawa, Shinobu Igarashi and Erika Shirono






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[Supmop]

good idea for discussion

to talk about connection religion and erotism / porn need open minded people

like I posted before, need open minded society, a lot of them to make porn industry became legal

 

[jugulear]

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Thanks, Supmop; so far we are not having too many bites on this good idea for discussion, however. (Well, it has been kinda quiet around here at "Discussion" lately, anyway.)

Let me bring up two more examples.

Widow and Lewd Priests - Victim of Lustful Priests, Penetrated By a Bunch of Guys Who Live Under the Principle of Detachment From All Worldly Desires [REBN-041], starring Shinobu Ebihara & Miyabi Kaga





Black Priest's Sex Pilgrimage [BWSD-56], starring Ayano Oshikiri & Hitomi Sakurai


"We Want to Get Mercy." (I love that ass crack.) What does the next line say... "I have not been making love for years how many." And the line underneath that... "Disappearance events of sex... priest and...widows?" ... can't make it out.

I recognized the black actor; I'm not saying he was in the following examples I'll be providing, but he appeared in at least some of the other TAIYO TOSHO movies where a black man was featured as the evil-doer. Among others, there was one with a black politician [BWSD-53], and then there were a few in what has been called Woman's Sorrow Complete Document, with a black mailman [BWSD-19] and a black teacher [BWSD-14]. What made me take special notice of these movies was that a good few focused on Mother-Daughter victimhood, and I have a soft spot for that kinky kombination. I don't remember these mom and daughter ones to be all that satisfying, but at least they tried.


Time the war has been settled the people of life little by little at the end, here and there in the war widow in Japan there were a lot .... Around the same time, become a man who ablation is false shaved in the job, is to say that raising the sutra, incidents ranged Agarikomi nefarious wrongdoing has occurred in the country .... But, some of the widow who lived with the worrying endlessly ....


I see fellow Akiba-Online Member Grisa has once made this 2010 movie available on his "Smalljav" site, and some of the links are still working; you can pick it up for a tasty 365 MB.




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[bishar]

there are any jav like that about islam religion ?

 

[Supmop]

there are any jav like that about islam religion ?

I've same question

so far that I know any related porn with islam is the female performer wearing hijab, amateur stuff from indonesia and malaysia, and few that claimed from arab

Islam is religion that most vocal against porn

 

[jugulear]

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Probably there would be no reason for Islam to be an element in JAV, to address Bishar's question; so far, the examples we are seeing involve religions that are active in Japan.



That made me curious... what kind of role does Islam play in Japan? The hits I received alluded to Japan's banning all Muslims, which turned out to be untrue; evidently, Muslims constitute a tiny minority in the country (perhaps less than a hundred thousand).

Thinking about what Supmop wrote, in the West, naturally, all we hear about Muslims is how strict and terroristic they are... factors which would naturally discourage against porno production. There are, however, some billion and a half of these now-very persecuted people on the planet (many of them persecuted by those who claim to be Muslims themselves), and it would be a mistake to paint them all with one broad stroke. Saudi Arabia is the country that has succeeded in pushing other Muslims over the edge with their endless petrol dollars and their horrible "Wahabbi" ideology, the genesis of groups such as ISIS.

Far as porn, while I haven't gone looking for it, I've run into enough examples of Arab porn to think it's not just done under the shadows. In Westernized Muslim nations, porn is not illegal (here, I looked this up), at least not in the case of Turkey (unfortunately, that country too is becoming more religionized; when extremists are at bay, the gentler voices are more easily squashed. Donald Trump, anyone?)...

As far as Turkey, while it is unfortunate the product never made it outside the country at the time, only in later years did it become more widely known that back in the 1970s, their movies were as exploitative as any other European nation's, of the period. I've seen a few such movies, thought they were fun and terrific, and there was a very liberal depiction of naked women and sex in general. (An article.)



I was thinking of one in particular... ah, I found it. From 1971, "Tarkan vs. the Vikings." It was fantastic.

Here is an article that I ran into only yesterday, by coincidence, which was refreshing... it should make people who have one-dimensional views reconsider their stereotyping.

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Re-reading the last line from the post above, "Islam is religion that most vocal against porn," I can't say I agree; it just seems that way to those of us in the West, because Muslims are painted as out-of-their-minds zealots. There is no religion (at least among the three primary monotheistic ones... I gather Buddhism may be a bit more relaxed, although I don't know) that does not go bananas when it comes to porn, or matters sexual.

Here in America, the fundamentalist Christian groups are known for their intolerance of pornography. (Famously making for odd bedfellows with some feminist groups, such as Women Against Pornography.) The difference is, America has separation of church and state (at least most of the time). If the U.S. government is run by the religious, as is the case with Iran or the despicably Sharia-law run Brunei (whose criminal rulers are sex-obsessed, naturally), then it would be bye-bye to stupid American porn. (Luckily, we would still have JAV.)


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[jugulear]

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Nun / Female Superior / Female Lawyer / Girl Who Works At A Ramen Shop / Female Doctor / Female Teacher / Nabe / Single Mother's Tied Up Massage Parlor [BNSPS-342]

In addition, a Caribbeancom movie labeled ZA-950 or 090511-798:


Black Magic Ward Chapter III, with (as translated) Misaki Hasegawa, Airi Hayasaka and Mizuho Nishiyama



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[jakart3]

about the japanese rules that jugulear post in pic above, is that confirmed??
because my friend is a moslem, he (and his wife) work in japan as immigrant,
they rent appartment,
and last time i chat with him, he said his life pretty much okay, people around are tollerant,

 

[jakart3]

sorry ...double

 

[jugulear]

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Hi, Jakart3... those rules are false or misleading, as I went on to mention (in the paragraph underneath the graphic), providing this link, which tells us, "In 1982, Muslims numbered some 30,000; half of whom were native Japanese and the rest of different origins. With complete freedom of religion in Japan, the number of Muslims is expected to reach 100,000."

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[Supmop]

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Probably there would be no reason for Islam to be an element in JAV, to address Bishar's question; so far, the examples we are seeing involve religions that are active in Japan.

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That made me curious... what kind of role does Islam play in Japan? The hits I received alluded to Japan's banning all Muslims, which turned out to be untrue; evidently, Muslims constitute a tiny minority in the country (perhaps less than a hundred thousand).

Thinking about what Supmop wrote, in the West, naturally, all we hear about Muslims is how strict and terroristic they are... factors which would naturally discourage against porno production. There are, however, some billion and a half of these now-very persecuted people on the planet (many of them persecuted by those who claim to be Muslims themselves), and it would be a mistake to paint them all with one broad stroke. Saudi Arabia is the country that has succeeded in pushing other Muslims over the edge with their endless petrol dollars and their horrible "Wahabbi" ideology, the genesis of groups such as ISIS.

Far as porn, while I haven't gone looking for it, I've run into enough examples of Arab porn to think it's not just done under the shadows. In Westernized Muslim nations, porn is not illegal (here, I looked this up), at least not in the case of Turkey (unfortunately, that country too is becoming more religionized; when extremists are at bay, the gentler voices are more easily squashed. Donald Trump, anyone?)...

As far as Turkey, while it is unfortunate the product never made it outside the country at the time, only in later years did it become more widely known that back in the 1970s, their movies were as exploitative as any other European nation's, of the period. I've seen a few such movies, thought they were fun and terrific, and there was a very liberal depiction of naked women and sex in general. (An article.)

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I was thinking of one in particular... ah, I found it. From 1971, "Tarkan vs. the Vikings." It was fantastic.

Here is an article that I ran into only yesterday, by coincidence, which was refreshing... it should make people who have one-dimensional views reconsider their stereotyping..

yes Turkey is the only country that I know has muslim as majority, that are open to nudity and erotism, they have topless magazine, belly dancing, nudity and sex scenes in their movies

I agree its not fair to say all of them, but the others, especially in South East Asia, muslims are very vocal againts nudity and ofcourse porn

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Re-reading the last line from the post above, "Islam is religion that most vocal against porn," I can't say I agree; it just seems that way to those of us in the West, because Muslims are painted as out-of-their-minds zealots. There is no religion (at least among the three primary monotheistic ones... I gather Buddhism may be a bit more relaxed, although I don't know) that does not go bananas when it comes to porn, or matters sexual.

Here in America, the fundamentalist Christian groups are known for their intolerance of pornography. (Famously making for odd bedfellows with some feminist groups, such as Women Against Pornography.) The difference is, America has separation of church and state (at least most of the time). If the U.S. government is run by the religious, as is the case with Iran or the despicably Sharia-law run Brunei (whose criminal rulers are sex-obsessed, naturally), then it would be bye-bye to stupid American porn. (Luckily, we would still have JAV.)

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yes I agree, all of religions that I know are not supporting porn, but Budhism and Hindu are more tolerate to erotism

sorry my words maybe harsh, but in many countries that has muslim population as majority, the religious try to run and monopoly government and oftenly forced Islam's rules as rules for the country too, for example : Indonesia

 

[Supmop]

about the japanese rules that jugulear post in pic above, is that confirmed??
because my friend is a moslem, he (and his wife) work in japan as immigrant,
they rent appartment,
and last time i chat with him, he said his life pretty much okay, people around are tollerant,

most Japanese now are open minded people, they are much more tollerant to different religion, different cultures than their ancestors

 

[ding73ding]

First... I think religion issues (e.g. Islam in Japan) is OT for this whole forum. Islam + porn, I feel also is OT.

But I also think we can't be 100% strict about OT in any forum. So give everyone (and myself) a little leeway

I think oppression of sex and porn isn't strictly tied to religions or religion. I think it's related to the misery-index. When a country/society is miserable, the authority/elite class turn up the oppression to blame all the problems on moral corruption etc. Perhaps there's a kind of practical need as well, if the population (esp. young people) can't find a path to success and happiness through education and honest hard work (yes yes I support Bernie Sanders, now you know) they are likely to escape to alcohol, drugs and sex and waste their lives away. So if authority fails to incentivize honest hard work, the second best strategy is to demonize the alcohol and sex.

So... try to get back ON topic... there's a chance as Japanese misery increases (I'm negative on Japan outlook for forseeable future) JAV and sex industry will be further oppressed. As I understand, the laws regarding soaplands and sex trade have already been tighten up in past few years.

most Japanese now are open minded people, they are much more tollerant to different religion, different cultures than their ancestors

Well that's a subjective judgement I won't argue for now. (in general island nations are more xenophobic than other countries) But absolutely the trend is going the wrong way. Nationalism and xenophobia is up all over the world, and Japan is part of that trend.

 

[Supmop]

First... I think religion issues (e.g. Islam in Japan) is OT for this whole forum. Islam + porn, I feel also is OT.

But I also think we can't be 100% strict about OT in any forum. So give everyone (and myself) a little leeway

I think oppression of sex and porn isn't strictly tied to religions or religion. I think it's related to the misery-index. When a country/society is miserable, the authority/elite class turn up the oppression to blame all the problems on moral corruption etc. Perhaps there's a kind of practical need as well, if the population (esp. young people) can't find a path to success and happiness through education and honest hard work (yes yes I support Bernie Sanders, now you know) they are likely to escape to alcohol, drugs and sex and waste their lives away. So if authority fails to incentivize honest hard work, the second best strategy is to demonize the alcohol and sex.

I'm agree

Well that's a subjective judgement I won't argue for now. (in general island nations are more xenophobic than other countries) But absolutely the trend is going the wrong way. Nationalism and xenophobia is up all over the world, and Japan is part of that trend.

yes its subjective

but I think most of us know that older generations of japanese people are more racist than their young generation, I think interracial sex theme in JAV was difficult to be accepted by old japanese

 

[jugulear]

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Nun Suikoden: Betting a Girl's Body at a Dice Game [CSD-018]

When is 1891. Stalwart our Satcho that dominate the Restoration government Chiyoda red-light district to play with Saijo of the old Shogunate and Aizu clan chief retainer was in court. Repel a variety of erotic pattern surrounding the nun-Kanze Institute that has been in exile in the nunnery of the Seto Inland Sea to it.


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[demonknight]

yes I agree, all of religions that I know are not supporting porn, but Budhism and Hindu are more tolerate to erotism

Being one of the oldest religions in the world. you would think current day Hindus would be tolerant towards matters of erotica. Heck back in the day, our temples had carvings of people engaging in sex, straight, gay, animals, orgies et all. Now like any other religion we have hardliners who take it upon themselves to say what is right or wrong in the religion.

So right now in India, porn is illegal, sextoys are illegal, 99% of nudity in movies if any is censored. On TV even navels and cleavages are blurred out

If it were not the internet, Indians would have gone mad.

As for Islamic situations in porn, it's rather rare to find in professional setups. Remember the scene enacted by Mia Khalifa wearing a hijab? She got umpteen number of death threats. In comparison, the sheer number of Xtian nun/priest based porn is abundant

Hindu's were always a tolerant people till India got occupied by the Brits and everything went haywire.

 

[Supmop]

Being one of the oldest religions in the world. you would think current day Hindus would be tolerant towards matters of erotica. Heck back in the day, our temples had carvings of people engaging in sex, straight, gay, animals, orgies et all. Now like any other religion we have hardliners who take it upon themselves to say what is right or wrong in the religion.

So right now in India, porn is illegal, sextoys are illegal, 99% of nudity in movies if any is censored. On TV even navels and cleavages are blurred out

If it were not the internet, Indians would have gone mad.

As for Islamic situations in porn, it's rather rare to find in professional setups. Remember the scene enacted by Mia Khalifa wearing a hijab? She got umpteen number of death threats. In comparison, the sheer number of Xtian nun/priest based porn is abundant

Hindu's were always a tolerant people till India got occupied by the Brits and everything went haywire.

me and a lot of my friends, maybe many peoples in this forum too would think India can produce great erotica (both softcore and hardcore), India has many pretty exotic girls

the text that I bold, thats what I mean Hindus are more tolerate to erotism

are you from India ?

 

[demonknight]

Indians sure could. Some of the babes here are oh so delicious But the current cultural atmosphere here does not allow it to be in the mainstream. Sure there is a B-Grade movie scene going on which does have nudity but its either blurred out or right out censored. Shoddy directing if any and horrible horrible acting

And we might have been very very tolerant to erotica back in the day but not now...

And yep thought it was obvious i am from India

 

[Supmop]

Indians sure could. Some of the babes here are oh so delicious But the current cultural atmosphere here does not allow it to be in the mainstream. Sure there is a B-Grade movie scene going on which does have nudity but its either blurred out or right out censored. Shoddy directing if any and horrible horrible acting

And we might have been very very tolerant to erotica back in the day but not now...

And yep thought it was obvious i am from India

thank you for your reply

its the first time I know someone from India in AV forum
sory I don't really sure at the first time

India has many many hot girls (celebrities and amateurs), sometimes I'm wishing JAV studios would go to India too

I guess whats happened in India are similiar with Indonesia
have big potential to have big porn industry but can't go that way

 

[desioner]

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Not only is it all false Quite a few of those points are the complete opposite. Recently Japan has been trying to encourage more and more muslims to visit Japan. The large muslim population of Singapore, which Japanese people love to visit is a large part of this. There are now more and more hotels that offer and promote halal foods, pray rooms & other essential services to muslims. I do appreciate your edit and evaluation of the points. I hope this thread doesn't get off topic to hard too soon. If so someone please report the offending posts so we can take care of them.