Will japanese ever match western actresses?

[twenie]

Physique-wise, I mean.

Genetically, white/caucasian females have an edge (better body proportion and on average taller, also better face structure but it could depend on your taste) over their Japanese counterparts and it can't be helped but I'm talking about the lack of Japanese female performers who have toned bodies (from doing sports or resistance training). Could it be because Japanese males don't view it as a plus? Or perhaps having a "fit" physique is simply not a thing in Japan.

BTW I hope that boob-jobs wouldn't be as prevalent in JAVs as in western porn. I don't know how it is nowadays but in the late 90's to early 2000 when I was still watching American porn, female pornstars often have implants.

 

[princeali692]

I pay to God every day and to the souls of my ancestors that they do not.

 

[darksider59]

Who has a fit body in western porn ? It doesn't seem to be the norm. The "booty" girls seem to be popular but 95% just have fat asses. More fat = more "curves" (still different from doing sport but people don't seem to care as Kardashian's ass is "so hot" according to people).

 

[R18.com]

The "going to the gym" culture has not been so strong in Japan as it has been in USA for long time already. It has started in Japan only a few years ago, so know people in general goes more to the gym than before but still far away from the amount that it goes in the USA. It will get there at some point!

Also in Japan having a small ass use to be the beauty. It is changing now also so now the Japanese girls that go to the gym usually is to do booty exercise!

It is still far but it will get there at some point!

 

[twenie]

Who has a fit body in western porn ? It doesn't seem to be the norm. The "booty" girls seem to be popular but 95% just have fat asses. More fat = more "curves" (still different from doing sport but people don't seem to care as Kardashian's ass is "so hot" according to people).

I don't know names and maybe I have selective memory but by googling japanese gravure and playboy models, I think you can see that the latter on average work on their body more.

I also watch chinese softcore sometimes (it started becoming popular) and their models are the skinniest.

The best one would be those KBJ girls. It's amazing that Korea can have so many great looking amateurs (when money is involved)! Their "body modification" is also the neatest, usually you can't see it.

 

[darksider59]

The "going to the gym" culture has not been so strong in Japan as it has been in USA for long time already. It has started in Japan only a few years ago, so know people in general goes more to the gym than before but still far away from the amount that it goes in the USA. It will get there at some point!

Also in Japan having a small ass use to be the beauty. It is changing now also so now the Japanese girls that go to the gym usually is to do booty exercise!

It is still far but it will get there at some point!

Still, people are fat in the US lol. The gym guys and gals are still a smaller part of the population.

Another thing, it's purely personnal preference, but the girls only doing "booty" exercises are as ridiculous as guys doing only upper body exercises.


This look stupid to me. I know it's the popular thing in the west, and there are even worst exemples. Just an ass (fat), no other muscles.


Wayyy better IMO. She has a muscular body, and her ass is far better looking.

And it's funny when I read "japanese girls don't have curves, ...". They are more slender than wester girls, so it means less fat. Plus, it's not like all western girls have good curves (I'm not talking about the booty made of fat). There are flat girls too. And through JAV, I've seen many girls with nice butts. Because the most important is that it matches the girl's body frame and shape.

Tsuno Miho is a good example.

 

[M1N0RA]

Physique-wise, I mean.
Genetically, white/caucasian females have an edge (better body proportion and on average taller, also better face structure but it could depend on your taste) over their Japanese counterparts and it can't be helped but I'm talking about the lack of Japanese female performers who have toned bodies (from doing sports or resistance training). Could it be because Japanese males don't view it as a plus? Or perhaps having a "fit" physique is simply not a thing in Japan.

That pretty much ends the discussion.

 

[twenie]

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Another thing, it's purely personnal preference, but the girls only doing "booty" exercises are as ridiculous as guys doing only upper body exercises.

Lol, I have this girl in my gym who's like that. It's a sight though, because she deadlifts and squats with almost perfect form while only a handful of people do that.

That pretty much ends the discussion.

That one you highlighted is only about the face or facial structure.

Preference aside, in general western facial structure is still the gold standard with its more angular features, especially for men. Wide and flat faces you find on east Asians are generally not considered as appealing.

But that's something you can't control if you aren't considering facial reconstruction (so it's not the scope of this thread). I'm wondering if those KBJ girls did this because a lot of them are good looking.

 

[paparoach408]

Lol, I have this girl in my gym who's like that. It's a sight though, because she deadlifts and squats with almost perfect form while only a handful of people do that.

That one you highlighted is only about the face or facial structure.

Preference aside, in general western facial structure is still the gold standard with its more angular features, especially for men. Wide and flat faces you find on east Asians are generally not considered as appealing.

But that's something you can't control if you aren't considering facial reconstruction (so it's not the scope of this thread). I'm wondering if those KBJ girls did this because a lot of them are good looking.

In your opinion, I definitely don't think that. I'm trying to figure out what you're wanting, a lot of plastic surgery to hit a western standard? or a massive change in genetics which will probably never happen.

 

[twenie]

In your opinion, I definitely don't think that. I'm trying to figure out what you're wanting, a lot of plastic surgery to hit a western standard? or a massive change in genetics which will probably never happen.

Just that JAV actress hit the gym more. I think I once saw Megumi/Aoi Shino with abs, she seems to take care of her body by doing some exercises. The drawback of doing exercise is that your boobs get smaller because of lower BF. Some porn actresses alleviate this problem by doing boob job - please don't because I like it natural!

Regarding the western facial structure being the gold standard, you can be sure it's at least true for Asians because I'm one and live in an Asian country. Look at how Korean people reconstruct their faces - do they make them softer, flatter and wider? No, it's the reverse!

 

[Immergeil]

Physique-wise, I mean.

Genetically, white/caucasian females have an edge (better body proportion and on average taller, also better face structure but it could depend on your taste) over their Japanese counterparts and it can't be helped but I'm talking about the lack of Japanese female performers who have toned bodies (from doing sports or resistance training). Could it be because Japanese males don't view it as a plus? Or perhaps having a "fit" physique is simply not a thing in Japan.

Everything you said is your preference not facts, in fact I wonder why you would even come here if that's how you feel.

 

[twenie]

Everything you said is your preference not facts, in fact I wonder why you would even come here if that's how you feel.

To know if there's any trend for JAV girls to get more toned bodies because I like it. Also to hear people's opinions since this a forum.

BTW you mistook me if you think that I prefer watching western girls by stating that they are better aesthetically. Like a lot of my fellow Asians, we still prefer asian girls but those with more western features. Look at famous Korean actresses/actors and they would be a good example. Also check out WANIMAL and look at his models.

 

[paparoach408]

Just that JAV actress hit the gym more. I think I once saw Megumi/Aoi Shino with abs, she seems to take care of her body by doing some exercises. The drawback of doing exercise is that your boobs get smaller because of lower BF. Some porn actresses alleviate this problem by doing boob job - please don't because I like it natural!

Regarding the western facial structure being the gold standard, you can be sure it's at least true for Asians because I'm one and live in an Asian country. Look at how Korean people reconstruct their faces - do they make them softer, flatter and wider? No, it's the reverse!

I am a westerner in the USA, and I don't think western facial structure is the gold standard, My preference is more towards the Japanese structure, but that's my preference like how you prefer western, and more plastic

 

[M1N0RA]

If you like the Silvia Saint and Sunny Leone type of girls (I find them and a select few others quite hot myself), then just watch western porn.
You like pizza so much, that you want hot dogs to look and taste like pizza as well. Doesn't make all that much sense to me.

 

[darksider59]

Lol, I have this girl in my gym who's like that. It's a sight though, because she deadlifts and squats with almost perfect form while only a handful of people do that.

At least she has the form right indeed. It's rare to see people having good form.

If you like the Silvia Saint and Sunny Leone type of girls (I find them and a select few others quite hot myself), then just watch western porn.
You like pizza so much, that you want hot dogs to look and taste like pizza as well. Doesn't make all that much sense to me.

I remember Sunny Leone. Gorgeous woman.

 

[twenie]

I am a westerner in the USA, and I don't think western facial structure is the gold standard, My preference is more towards the Japanese structure, but that's my preference like how you prefer western, and more plastic

It's not surprising hearing that from a white male. You know that WMAF (white male asian female) is the best pair in speed dating according to surveys because the corresponding race is found at the top of the list for each gender.

Asian females are attractive because of their neotenous features (like a juvenile, i.e. looks cute). Please don't associate this with peds because youth and signs of youth are always desirable in women because of underlying biological reasons (they are more fit to carry your babies). Still, somewhat deeper eye socket, more prominent jaw, chin, and nose, combined with rectangular (rather than square) face commonly found in caucasians are desirable in modern times. We are not even considering height and body proportions!

BTW regarding asians' neotenous features which make them look cute(r), think how that affects their (our) males. Disastrous! I'm not being negative here, just saying that your democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang has that typical asian face (he's a tall bloke though).

At least she has the form right indeed. It's rare to see people having good form.

She always comes alone to train while even the guys often only come with their buddies. A literal strong independent woman!

BTW female long/triple jumpers have the best physique

 

[paparoach408]

It's not surprising hearing that from a white male. You know that WMAF (white male asian female) is the best pair in speed dating according to surveys because the corresponding race is found at the top of the list for each gender.

Asian females are attractive because of their neotenous features (like a juvenile, i.e. looks cute). Please don't associate this with peds because youth and signs of youth are always desirable in women because of underlying biological reasons (they are more fit to carry your babies). Still, somewhat deeper eye socket, more prominent jaw, chin, and nose, combined with rectangular (rather than square) face commonly found in caucasians are desirable in modern times. We are not even considering height and body proportions!

BTW regarding asians' neotenous features which make them look cute(r), think how that affects their (our) males. Disastrous! I'm not being negative here, just saying that your democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang has that typical asian face (he's a tall bloke though).


She always comes alone to train while even the guys often only come with their buddies. A literal strong independent woman!

BTW female long/triple jumpers have the best physique

not a white male

 

[kharo88]

I think most (young) actresses are slim/fit/healthy enough and there's no need for them to work out (just yet). However if you like the girls who have a fitness model type of body or even bodybuilders then there's the Sport and Muscle category on JavLibrary. You might find a couple of girls/titles that you like browsing those. Also, there was a short-lived thread about JAV actresses with abs and there was a thread about athletic AV Idols that mostly featured jukujos.

 

[twenie]

I think most (young) actresses are slim/fit/healthy enough and there's no need for them to work out (just yet). However if you like the girls who have a fitness model type of body or even bodybuilders then there's the Sport and Muscle category on JavLibrary. You might find a couple of girls/titles that you like browsing those. Also, there was a short-lived thread about JAV actresses with abs and there was a thread about athletic AV Idols that mostly featured jukujos.

Yeah, some lucky young girls like Aoi Shirosaki are naturally slender and tight enough (but still have decent boobs and some curves) that they don't need to exercise to look great.

Nowadays I'm not really into muscle girls/women because having body fat that low effectively eliminate their breast and "destroy" their face. Combined with the muscular look, they start to look like a dude. BUT those korean fitness girls always surprised me because they still look feminine and pretty with those "muscled" physique - damn their body/face reconstruction op is unreal! T_T

 

[Inane]

By western you mean American right? European girls aren't that much obsessed with gym , they go over there of course but mostly for shape reasons rather than build muscles , besides it's a place to meet people an example is Valentina Nappi

Anyway even in the USA it's not always true some of the most in demand girls in American porn aren't that muscled , furthermore haven't any big tits nor a big ass , I'm talking the likes of Riley Reid for example or how in demand was Alina Li who had a very similar body type even though she was Chinese but I can add more , Eliza Ibarra is another one , mind you I'm talking the "naturals" who have no need of any implant to be successful.

I like women of any kind , most of the times I prefer the regular type over the "beautiful" ones usually for minor features, their smile or their attitude , just the shape of their ass , I mean shape and proportion it doesn't have to be big , a slender woman could be as well proportioned as a tall one , you don't need to be tall to be well proportioned , say Elsa Jean or Gina Valentina for example

As for the "caucasian model" I think variety may have a great role with that . Whites can come with any nose shape, hair color, hair shape with different natural hair styles such as the natural curly ones, eyes color , any combination with the two, even their skin shade can change a lot, they can have freckles , little red or brown dots all over their body , not to mention what the mixed ones can be . All this variety looks also perfectly natural whether blue eyes or green eyes on any other woman or man look weird no matter how beautiful they are. They can also vary a lot with their body type, they could be very short or very tall even on the very same family group

This much variety can basically match any sexual taste anybody may have either male or female , this is possibly why they're seen as a beauty model , though not everybody likes that kind of girls or men , not even the whites themselves, in fact many of them like mostly something else sometimes exclusively such as those men who only date asian or black women or those women who only date black men or marry asian men