Your favorite and similar blowjob series?

[gregorsamsa]

Okay, so I just now found out that the same director is the mastermind behind several of my favorite BJ/deepthroat series, and even though I knew about some of these smaller titles, I thought they were just parts taken of the full movies to sell separately

But it looks like it's not (always) the case. Two examples: one with AIKA, and one with Kaho. Both contain deep throating* big cocks, which is what we are all here for. And these are technically both series by the same guy (or gal?). so it's a perfect fit. So, not clippings out of bigger movies but a series of one-scene releases with top actresses

I'll study this director for some more and will update the original post to reflect this great find. The principle is proven to be working wonders again: for the same stuff, follow the series, the label, the studio, the director (also, some actresses are pretty consistent deep-throaters, but that's often less reliable; and the genre overall is too broad sometimes, from "vanilla" BJs and "tepid" deepthroats to irrumatio with puke, so I guess the best way is to work more precisely, even if it takes more time: a good director can make almost any actress work towards a specific fetish, especially, even more so than the genre/studio/label/series)

* Or, in case of AIKA, at least "deep-blowing"; as I've mentioned here or elsewhere on the forum, I have almost never seen her even trying to deepthroat, apart from this great title, for example. Guess one of the next directors I gotta check is the one who filmed this... but the director is not stated, neither on JavLibrary, nor on JavLand

 

[gregorsamsa]

Just a couple more "hacks and thoughts" (to continue on this stream of consciousness of mine):

• There is also this player that I've found recently that has possibly the most underestimated feature a player can have: it can play videos in a "backward to forward" loops! AFAIK, without it, to appease that part of your brain that would like to see, say, how the cock goes into the mouth, and then back, seamlessly, you would have to either have very precise timing when looping, or you would have to use some editors; but with this, the magic is here, for free (if only it had the same extensive looper functionality as the MPCLooper... but even what it can do is great)
• If you're as f...ed up as I am and JAV has lead you down the path of having periods of "hey, let's censor some Western porn as well!" — there is this project, for example; seems like the Firefox extension aims to censor everything you browse as you go, and it also lets you use a lot more features, e.g. it also works with GIF and video (though I haven't checked), but you'll have to be a patron; still, the project lets do most of the stuff for free, which I really appreciate; the author is a "niche hero" really

Just as any other great salesperson inventor, these give you what you didn't even know you needed to make your life better

 

[gregorsamsa]

Also, a small update of the opening post aka "the database", (data)based on these posts of mine, which I totally forgot about. So, basically, a few more ladies to check out if you haven't yet

 

[PHauc14]

Some great additions gregorsamsa. Good to see someone keeping the BJ threads alive and active. I have discovered a few more from my list that meet the "configuration":

AKDL-242



SND-65


Not many great BJ-centric or deepthroat-centric titles have caught my eye as of late. But as i said previously I have been too busy to really check thoroughly for new additions to titles, series, and other stand alone releases.

Keep up the incredible contributions!!

 

[gregorsamsa]

Thank you, as always! So, the AKDL label has proven itself very interesting once again. And the second one looks great as well, especially balls-wise (also, I really like the lighting in the second one; it makes the scene look really welcoming, making the female "doctor" even more alluring, even though I've only seen one screenshot of it; the "cold" lighting can be equally great, e.g. in the "Girls Who Love Sucking Cock" series, where the girls are shown as fierce, hard-handed throated femmes fatales)

As for these being incredible... as the Japanese say, こちらこそ (kochirakoso), which can be translated as "it's I who should say that to you"

I just hope you have some free time to enjoy JAV and share some more of your findings

 

[youtuber]

Hi, just came across this thread and saw someone else here was asking for some male actor or scenes? I'm trying to find out the name of the actor in this series.
Does anyone know his name? From what I've seen, he seems to have appeared in quite a few series under the director Akai Suisei. Thank you


IPX-368


Mide-774

 

[gregorsamsa]

Hi, just came across this thread and saw someone else here was asking for some male actor or scenes? I'm trying to find out the name of the actor in this series.
Does anyone know his name? From what I've seen, he seems to have appeared in quite a few series under the director Akai Suisei. Thank you


IPX-368
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Mide-774
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I've found both of these on the male AV actor wiki I've discovered not a long time ago, but he is not listed in any of them as far as I can tell. MissAV (that also sometimes lists the male actors) shows the same names. So, you can join the club of those looking for some other resources to look for JAV actors

P.S. To offer some guidance, that wiki does not really work well when searching by codes, so I always end up using the original Japanese title, or at least a long enough portion of it. It does, however, work if you use a certain other code format, i.e. the one without hyphens and with leading zeroes (this format also uses an additional number in the beginning of the code, but since the search for partial matches also works, that's enough). Apparently, it searches based on the text stored in the entries, and the entries have codes only in this format. Long story short, IPX-368 can be found via ipx00368, and MIDE-774 via mide00774. But again, he does not seem to be among the actors listed, and the "???" tag seems to be a catch-all tag for any unrecognized actor (though not every movie with unrecognized actors use it...). In any case, you could search for some other titles where you have seen this man and maybe he is listed in some other title

Also, maybe he's actually one of those 4 different dudes listed for these two movies

Spoiler: And just to sum up what this thread is about now...

• BJ- and deepthroat-centric series (this site has series search/listing, though AFAIR, it didn't have some of the series I searched for, i.e. those that exist and do not seem to have been taken off the market; also see below for some basic search strategies)
• Standalone titles and actresses that deliver the best BJs and deepthroats (here, the MissAV recommendation system helps, but it's mostly sometimes luck*, even though you can use keyword search or search within the same genres, tags, labels, studios, directors or actresses)
• Big cocks and balls, especially the long and thin ones, maybe also "arching", with big hanging balls (aka the "configuration"; finding new... specimen here is also based on luck, though the same basic approaches described above also work sometimes), as they are the best fitting to go deep down the throat and pump a lot of stuff down there (i.e., in technical terms, it's about the effectiveness of the tool and the storage capacity)
• Male actors that show up in the first two above or fit the third above (there is at least one database for that, see search guidelines above in this post; MissAV and some other sites also list some male actors sometimes)
• Plus, as bonus, I have shared some of the tools to enjoy JAV (or any porn) even more, i.e. to work with loopers (MissAV is the only JAV site I know that offers this in its basic form), backward replay and censoring

We started with the first two, and gradually added the second two to the search
The guy brought up by youtuber has a big one, so we're still within these four items

* That is, if you think that you can find all great oral scenes by searching; see my note in the following post about AKDL-267

 

[gregorsamsa]

Also, thanks to this related (though rougher) thread and uoiea25 in particular, I got reminded about this site I've discovered not a long time a go, XCITY. It lists series in a convenient manner and allows you to search within them using keywords (e.g. in our case, using 喉, i.e. "throat"*, etc). I have recently added a summary (see under the spoiler in my previous post) of what this thread has come to aim for, and I have now added the respective new sites I've discovered to help with these aims

* This is just for translation purposes; the site only works with Japanese

 

[gregorsamsa]

Getting back to the AKDL label, I've checked it some more and found that this title, AKDL-267, has a really nice one fitting the "configuration" in the second scene. Also, if you check the wiki, it has one actor listed that is also cast in AKDL-242: this one, and he has quite a lot of work done, including the "Throat" series, e.g. XRW-979

Though it does not mean, of course, that the "configuration" one is him

Anyway, AKDL-267 is good, especially the second scene, so I downloaded it and made a few screenshots. There is also some ball play later in the scene (with hands at least, haven't yet watched enough to see if there was any ball-licking or ball-popping, that would make the movie much better; I haven't watched it in full for obvious reasons since it's really well done: the angle, the lighting, the throating, the expressions the actress makes, and the cock and balls, of course, are really porn-worthy)

I've started to appreciate lighting much more recently, and this scene is really pleasant lighting-wise; I don't know any specific terms, but the action is well-lit and the lighting is warm, not cold, which makes it feel more "cordial", as compared to cold-lighting BJs that become more "technical", "mechanistic", "forced" etc. depending on the context)



P.S. I've also realized that the AKDL label is actually a great study case for several reasons:

• None of the three titles in it that we have mentioned (starting with the opening post, it's AKDL-251, AKDL-242, AKDL-267) has "deep throat" or even "blowjob" in its list of genres/tags (or equivalent — after all, different sites word/translate the same genre differently); maybe if you check the maker's official site, it's different, but I doubt that
• Every one of them, however, has some key words in the title referring to either deep-throating or blowing (フェラ、ノーハンドフェラチオ, フェラニスト, しゃぶりペット)
• So, I would still not call it luck if you're looking for an oral-focused series/title: after all, the maker also needs to market it appropriately to sell it (and maybe they are not as attentive to the tags because the title is enough to sell it?), i.e. I would say that yes, it's likely that there are great blowjob scenes "hidden in plain sight" in movies not focused on oral, e.g. in ones centered around big tits etc. (we have seen examples of it here), but to have a whole series/oral-focused title without any of these would be an exception, I think

If we're talking about "finding oral-focused stuff no matter what", however, the only solution I see now is to search within the titles as well. Even better, to find sites where the search also covers the descriptions as well (the probability that any "oral key words" for an oral movie won't be at least in the description is very low; on the other hand, there might be lots of "false positives" where "mild" or not oral-focused titles will get picked up by such a search

Also, I cannot help to mention the フェラニスト from the title of AKDL-242: I would bet I have seen this word before, but it's good to be reminded about it now, when I'm more attentive to the words used. It's like "oralist" or, yes, "fellanist"

 

[gregorsamsa]

A small update on the searches I've been up to lately. Apart from the AKDL label, I've come back to studio Radix to check some more of their stuff. Expectedly, the male actor wiki did not list all of the titles with the aforementioned huge-cocked actor, and I've been able to find quite a few new ones. So, basically, the Radix studio (at least the GUN and NEO labels) are worth inspecting, even if title by title, same as AKDL

Possibly the best recent find for me is NEO-720 with him (in one of the scenes) and Hanyuu Arisa (throughout, though this one seems a bit femdom/CEI/cuckold-oriented, at least implicitly, at least the scene where she licks the camera at the end, covering it with cum, but hey, it's Arisa, it's worth checking out in almost anything — like, I have no interest in scat and I wouldn't watch her in that... well, maybe just once, just for the heck of it)

P.S. This title is another example of logically being in a series with some other titles — but not officially, at least not on all the resources: the wiki, for example, states the series for this one (see the シリーズ part, though it does not have NEO-720 to check for consistency), and the same goes for JAV Land for NEO-725, but not for this one (which results in the series entry having only one title in it formally while having at least two in reality), i.e. a title can be a part of the series in every respect, from it's contents to the name on the cover but for some reason, at least in some sources, it might not be included in the respective series. A thing to also remember about when searching for similar titles/series (e.g. on the also-aforementioned XCITY)

Basically, the most reliable approach seems to be checking the whole label title by title (or at least checking different resources, including the official ones to make sure you've got all the information — while also remembering that, firstly, some titles could have been officially removed by the maker themselves, and secondly, a series might span different labels. So, a thorough JAV researcher should combine different approaches and sources, including unofficial ones that preserve the information as it has been before any official "purges" )

 

[Zen10101]

Just sharing one I'll always love: Ai Haneda in IPZ-176, part of the suddenly sex series. Why I love it:

• Her personality shines. There's an impromptu element about it and she pauses often during the BJ to talk to the camera guys and said BJ recipient. Should I get subs for it? I always enjoy making up the convos in my head tho.
• The slurping sounds were great.
• The fact that she is fully clothed. Not even wearing anything sexy but regular, conservative, cold weather clothes.
• The way she went about the "clean-up" is mesmerising and I can't explain why.

The slurping sound is such an underrated aspect of BJs. Some amazing ones visually are frustratingly quiet that I had to dub them over from other scenes lol. Even if they're audible, a lot of them can't do the slurp - Kana Momonogi for example tried to force it and it sounded like tires in a parking lot. Also, Ai's slurping was produced entirely from the contact of sucking, instead of sucking it like a straw. It just sounds SO much better, as it indicates that the mouth is tightly wrapped around the cock and no "vacuuming" is required, just motion.

I hate how rare good slurping is, it should be easy as they just need to keep it wet and not force it.

 

[gregorsamsa]

Just sharing one I'll always love: Ai Haneda in IPZ-176, part of the suddenly sex series. Why I love it:

• Her personality shines. There's an impromptu element about it and she pauses often during the BJ to talk to the camera guys and said BJ recipient. Should I get subs for it? I always enjoy making up the convos in my head tho.
• The slurping sounds were great.
• The fact that she is fully clothed. Not even wearing anything sexy but regular, conservative, cold weather clothes.
• The way she went about the "clean-up" is mesmerising and I can't explain why.

The slurping sound is such an underrated aspect of BJs. Some amazing ones visually are frustratingly quiet that I had to dub them over from other scenes lol. Even if they're audible, a lot of them can't do the slurp - Kana Momonogi for example tried to force it and it sounded like tires in a parking lot. Also, Ai's slurping was produced entirely from the contact of sucking, instead of sucking it like a straw. It just sounds SO much better, as it indicates that the mouth is tightly wrapped around the cock and no "vacuuming" is required, just motion.

I hate how rare good slurping is, it should be easy as they just need to keep it wet and not force it.

I'll make sure to watch it. Thank you for the suggestion!

 

[gregorsamsa]

Also, you make a lot of important points about the appeals of oral sex. And I'll pay attention to her slurping for sure

You reminded me of a list I've made some time ago here (before this more general one but also related), and you motivated me to elaborate. If I was to make the list of my sub- or co-fetishes (meaning something that enhances the oral part itself), those would be, including and expanding on your list and my previous one:

My criteria for a great blowjob scene (update 1.5, with valuable input from Zen10101)
Possible future improvements: hide every section under a spoiler for ease of navigation; add "dream" scenarios/sequences of plays etc.
Also, possibly move the notes in italics in section one to the note section as well — though these are more important and act as "signposts" as well

1. Principles and play (partially overlaps with the technique subsection; to improve later)

• Preferably 1 on 1, though I certainly dig the "line of dicks" sub-genre — it's just that the quality of play almost always suffers with the increase of the number of people involved; also, "harem" oral scenarios is a fetish that we have discussed a lot here
• Preferably no forcing*, even better if the guy does not touch the girl at all, i.e. she has full control and all the opportunities to shine (to use the same great word you used); thankfully, the Japanese culture seems to share this attitude, hence such prevalence of the "masochistic men", "herbivores" etc.; also, naturally, some characters and settings further enhance this (e.g. female teacher in an all-boy school, nurse collecting semen samples, etc.); also thankfully, JAV even has a whole sub-genre for it: self-deepthroat (セルフイラマ) — I elaborated on this point even further in another thread (here and here)
• No vomit, so slapping the girl, no spitting on her face, etc. (see note 1)
• The more sounds the better (though this depends on the girl), but not too loud
• Teasing: lips/tongue/mouth display in general; the girl spreading her mouth with her fingers to let the cock/cum in or just opening it really wide and saying "Ah..."; "air blowjobs" are a massive tease for me as well (see the beginning of this title, for example), the overall "cock worship" thing (size shock, looking at it lovingly and/or in awe, biting her lip, drooling at it, measuring it, licking it vigorously, flicking it with her tongue etc. — this girl is a great recent example of that for me of this and many other "play" criteria here)

The teasing part usually begins with the cock reveal (though a lot of things, including precum play or licking, can be done through the fabric of the pants, for example): the actor (see the section below) or the actress pulls the cock out or, preferably, pulls the pants down with some force to make the reveal quick and dramatic. The actor can also twitch the cock after that (and during the scene later) to enhance the teasing on his side

• Precum play is great; actually, I think it's only in JAV that I realized how much play can be built around it (though there is a Western scene I remember to this day because of the string of precum slowly extending and the girl making it move by grabbing the cock vigorously): from the girl making "threads" of precum from the cockhead to her finger to teasing when the precum stain is shown growing more and more

I feel it should be done before the actress adds any more liquids onto the cock (i.e. pure precum play is arguably the only and best way)

• Spit play: spit is more than welcome, of course, and it's another sub-fetish; there is a lot you can do with it, but for now, just a few things: bubbles (of the mixture of spit, precum, cum etc.), drops on the floor (it's not that easy to find a movie where the camera work capitalizes on that by taking long shots of the spit/precum/cum, or SPC for short, "mixture" puddle growing by focusing on it and staying there while more drops fall in; two good examples are the first scene in this and the one with the sailor suit in this; another great example of an "SPC-puddle" is the second scene here), making strings of spit and sucking them in; possibly one of the "pinnacles" here, similarly to cum play, is when there is so much "slime" that the girl needs to clean it off, and if she does so with a single professional move (like the gal in this Western scene does at some point), then it might be like an instant 10%+ boner bonus for me (the example is rough and forced oral, but it's the only example of this that I remember)
• Penis play (partial list, more below and to elaborate later): blowing on the cock, biting the cock (especially on the shaft, from the side), "playing the harmonica" (sliding up and down the shaft holding it with her lips), slapping her lips and tongue with her tongue (and especially doing... I don't know how it's called but that thing when she shakes the cock from side to side while making it touch her lips... especially if she's vocal... it's one of the sounds of oral heaven); also, to talk a bit more about shaking, there are two recent examples of sexy cock shaking I can give: one from this JAV (at the beginning of the 69 scene; again, noticed it only now when re-watching for the god-knows-which time — a case in point that there might be gems still hidden in titles you've seen time and time again; also, it's one more reason to find it in at least HD quality), and one from this Western amateur clip (near the end)
• Mid-finish events (meaning what happens during the male orgasm): male thrusts (even though I mention that I don't want the guy to get too involved physically, this is different: the pleasure is so intense that the desire to literally and symbolically squeeze something more out of the moment is totally understandable, "even by me"); we can also differentiate: in this case, we're talking about mid-nut thrusts, and there are also post-nut thrusts (there is a good example for such thrusts throughout the climax in the third scene here); also, the girl might get surprised/shocked if it was unexpected (and there is at least one series dedicated to that)
• Finishes, by order of preference: oral cream-pie (with play afterwards as described in the previous point preferred; if it's swallowing, then it should be with mouth shown "before and after" (see note 2), and audible gulps are another turn-on), throat cream-pie, facial (see note 3); another noteworthy type of finishes is a special case of swallowing cum (or, in severe cases, coughing it up) is when the stream is so strong and abundant that the girl chokes on it (for at least one like that, the scene with Endo Shiori as a teacher in YFF-10; there is also one with at least a powerful stream, not sure about the choking, will check later; also, the that whole thread should have dozens more of gems like that... and if I remember correctly, there is a discussion about this particular guy there, and it might be his thing... oh, wait, I realized only now... he might be Peter North of JAV)
• Cum play, naturally, but I wanted to focus on the more overlooked sub-fetishes as well: first, it's cum drops on the floor and clothes (the more the better, especially on the girls's thighs when she's kneeling); second, the after-orgasm cum play (even BJ-focused movies often just discard the cum or show it for mere seconds... もったいない; I actually mention this in the opening post of this thread, calling it "cum-in-mouth-then-spit-out-on-palm", also linking to a related thread, and here is an example of this performed perfectly, with cum splashes, under the spoiler; and another perfect example with an enhancer: at around 1:37:00 here, the cum puddle is made to move by the movement of her hand — in general, any kind of intense cum play is great, e.g. moving it from one palm to another, "making it rain" as in the "...collect and swallow" example below, checking the thickness and squeezing the cum blobs, like in the first scene in this gem)
• Post-finish events, follow-up, i.e. what happens after the orgasm and/or after the cum is played with; first of all, there might be some post-nut thrusts as mentioned; also, the girl might squeeze out the remaining cum with her hands and/or mouth (this happens quite a lot in the "surprise" series mentioned, e.g. in the first scene in this one); finally, there are several ways to deal with the cum that has not been swallowed right away: it can be wiped off onto a tissue (wasteful! — and unfortunately happens too often in DROP/KAGP etc. BJ titles), or spat/shaken off onto the floor (now that I think about it, shaking it off is also sexy, but at the moment, I can only remember a great example with spitting it out: the scene that begins around 0:30:00 here); and finally, an improvement on the kind of finish/play above, there are rare instances of "cum-in-mouth-spit-out-on-palm-then-play-collect-and-swallow" (I have yet to find/remember a "canonical" example here, but here is something close and very hot: around 1:31:00 here)
• Other enhancers (to be elaborated later): dirty words (see note 4) (the overall anatomy-focus, semen-removal approach, following the whole process of getting the cum out of the balls, through the penis, and into the mouth and throat of the girl, but also comments on hardness, amount stored, thickness etc., teasing with "I'll make you feel good with my throat" etc.), penis play (see note 5) (physically playing with it, shaking it, slapping her face and other body parts with it, checking its "spring power", measuring it with body parts, objects, rulers etc., erection process focus, morning wood, bulges, "elephant pants"...), ball play; cum kisses and snowballing...

2. Technique

• BJ-only, no hands, slow, sensual, with lots of dirty talk (I know some Japanese, so it's a factor), and lots of ball and head licking with popping sounds
• Deepthroat: depends actually (with some girls, open-mouth looks and sounds sexier, with some, it's the sound they make with their throat etc.; audible sounds of entering the throat are a huge bonus)
• Bonus points: trying talking with her mouth full, making "struggling" noises (probably the best one I know is Kouya Satsuki, e.g. in TMDI-077), slurping (not too loud, though), "sign of relief" (reminded by Kaise Anju while re-watching XRW-511; see the scene on the couch in the middle; it also reminded me of Audrey Holiday, who makes these "refreshing!" sighs a lot)

3. Actress appeals

• Physical attributes are a plus (big tits and ass), but have low priority, apart from the thighs of the woman kneeling (this is a huge turn-on for me if they are thick, and porcelain-white, and bare, and, as mentioned above, have drops of spit, precum and cum on them; a good example of super-sexy hips is the first scene here), lips and tongue (plump lips and long tongue are always a plus)
• Assertive or even aggressive female role types, characters etc. (as noted above, this can be due to the role in the movie, e.g. a teacher, but it can also be types like dominatrix, mature, gyaru etc.)
• The overall dynamics between the guy and the girl (by order of preference; can overlap, of course; also overlaps with roles and settings already mentioned, but here it's more generalized): dominant but not sadistic woman vs. submissive but not masochistic man (e.g. the girl will tell the guy to "be a man" and manage not to cum long enough even amidst all that bliss, and the guy will just take it; the girl won't, however, make the guy experience any severe pain, e.g. by flicking his balls, or biting too hard... basically, there is a thin line, and it's very subjective, I guess, so, maybe we can try and generalize it as "from no SM at all to mild SM"), playful/devil-may-care/bratty girl vs. timid/shy/"stickler-to-the-rules" guy (see note 6); a good example of the overall dynamics between the girl and the guy is the scene that begins around 0:40:00 here
• Eye contact (either a very "palpable" contact with the guy or looking the same way into the camera, or both)
• Smiling and laughing and being otherwise non-sexually playful as well (see note 7) (e.g. I think I will remember forever this moment from NHDTB-293 where, in the second scene, the girl starts tickling the guy's balls while also repeating the Japanese version of "tickle-tickle!")
• Overall contrast between cute looks and slutty demeanor (e.g. these two videos of Kawagoe Yui from her Twitter where she makes peace signs and winks at us while taking sausages down her throat)

4. Actor appeals (aka "the cock and balls")

• Cock: long but "more long than thick", curved (not any kind of curve, but an "arch" one, so to speak, i.e. curved as a bridge, not as a winding road), which we've come to call the "configuration" here
• Balls: big, hanging, descended enough for the actress to at least "pop" them with her mouth, but ideally, to grab and tug on them
• Cum: depends on the play (thick white blobs are good for the "thickness play", and liquid puddles are great for splashes, duh)
• Action (decided to put it here for clarity): there are some things that actor can do to enhance the action without putting their hands onto the actress' head etc., e.g. the actor can reveal his cock dramatically by quickly pulling his pants down (though it's even better if the actress does it), and he can twitch his cock (that's one of the few things only the guy himself can do)

5. Camera work and positions

• Different angles, but mostly from the side, with some "softcore" shots where the action is not visible, only audible, but we see the spit drops, see the girl's head bobbing from behind etc.; POV is minimal; BONY-055, one of the latest works by Nakamura-san, gives a lot of insight into how fresh camera angles make the familiar stuff feel new (he might have used angles like these before, but again, that's the title that reminded me of it recently)
• Ability to change the angle is great, but not as it's achieved via VR but by having multiple camera angles to switch between (I've only seen this in Western porn, but there is at least one title where the same scene is shown two times from different angles, one after another)
• If it's one on one, the girl kneeling is probably the way to go, filmed from the side, as mentioned already; there is a huge appeal to 69, of course, as it allows for great cocks displays, sometimes even better than the couch does (see below); if it's 2+ girls, however, the best position is probably on the couch/bed, with the camera filming the cock from the feet/knees perspective, i.e. we can see the balls as well, so the process of the girls sharing the cock is seen the best (though the side angle works here as well, and the "full face" angle can be very sexy as well for focusing on the girls sharing the cock while the guy is standing)

6. Setting and outfits, specific plot devices

• Overall vibe of semen removal is great; as for the preferable "relationship", they are, from highest to lowest: nurses/patient, teacher/student, "sister/brother", "mother"/"son", "childhood friend"/guy, "friend's mother"/guy, "school brat"/guy (plus, I have a thing for "dick prison" setting, e.g. VOSS-133, though it's not BJ-only; also, as mentioned, there is a perfect kind of prank that can create half-hour long teasing scenes)
• Pink salons were made for this stuff, and there are lots and lots of great oral movies set there
• Gloryholes and toilets are by their own nature "dirty" and thus create additional arousal for most people, I guess; and in JAV, there are lots of these, especially in the "challenge" genre; speaking of which...
• Challenges (I've already mentioned this father-mother-son game gem, but there are also some strictly oral-only incest-game series... and some quite focused on oral, and among them this similar one, with only one of the titles included on JAV Land, again, while the first part is not included...)
• The setting facilitating the fetish appeals above is better, of course, e.g. solid flooring that does not absorb the spit/cum and makes it clearly visible is preferable (wooden floor and leather couches are among the best surfaces for oral scenes); if the liquids are not visible, they should at least be audible, e.g. the aforementioned spit drops on the floor should be loud and clear
• Couches are particularly good as they allow for a specific angle I like, which is when the guy is sitting on the couch, and the girl(s) is on the couch kneeling at his side, as it allows for possibly the best cock displays
• Of course, appropriate outfits are huge boosters, but there is no problem with that in JAV (at least I don't remember any instances of this issue)
• As for the females/males being fully clothed/naked or not (CFNM etc.), for me, it depends, though, again, the right outfit is more often a good thing than not (e.g. the sexy thighs can be accentuated by a short skirt, which is actually true for the example scene I gave above)
• A specific point here is wearing masks, glasses, etc.: I'm not too obsessed with these, but these are certainly appealing sometimes, and I understand why these are fetishized (apart from nurses, anyone can wear masks, and even I have at least one favorite title with cum-on-glasses finishes)
• Lipstick/makeup: depends (e.g. it's arguably an inextricable part of the gyaru image, but overall, the "natural" look can be very hot as well and can be similarly argued as an inextricable part of the "tomboy" image), though there is something very special in cum-covered fake eyelashes, for example (to enhance the "slutty" atmosphere)
• I have always had mixed feelings about NTR, and this whole "oral sex is not cheating" nonsense is one of the most fitting premises, I guess (there is at least one series based on that)

7. Special devices, toys, paraphernalia
From possibly the most used to the more "niche" ones

• Dildos (lots of play with those, obviously, but I don't remember seeing any memorable dildo-and-cum play (like this modern Western classic; not to mention the possibility of cum-on-dildo-and-lick play)
• Condoms (while I'm against condoms in oral in general, there is quite a lot of fetish stuff that can be done with them, like putting them on with her mouth, or drinking cum from it, or even tease-licking filled condoms as if they're wrapped candy)
• Lube used for oral, especially before a deep-throating session
• Mouth extenders (these can also be used without any "forced" aspect: the girl might be so "twisted" that she could wear this herself to make men lose their mind even more, make it more of a challenge because she won't be able to close her mouth etc.)
• Funnels (as with facials becoming bukkake with quality and quantity, this can easily flow into gokkun, but it's still oral stuff, innit?)
• In-mouth/throat cameras (haven't seen a lot of such stuff that was really well done and arousing for me, but there are some noteworthy examples)

8. Additional qualities

• Of course, the higher the resolution the better usually
• As for the mosaics, I've gotten used to it, and more often than not, in JAV, censoring is for the better (hides the cocks if they're big but actually gross-looking and/or weirdly-shaped and evens out the color if they're actually unappealing shades, especially the dick head, etc. — which reminds me that there was at least one shota-themed hentai anime where the mature women were praising the young cocks for how they are still pink and not dark)
• I've come to appreciate the lighting a lot, and the same goes for the choice of color temperature

9. Things that are common in JAV that I don't care much about
(Also to be expanded; again, this possibly overlaps with the "don'ts" in the beginning of the list, but it's somewhat different in that this stuff is from the girl's side and/or are not violent/demeaning etc.)

• When the girl sniffs the cock and says how dirty etc. it is
• The whole nipple-licking thing (I mean I get the idea, I also feel something when that happens to me, but compared to the cock-head-feel, it's close to nothing)
• The whole "phimosis play" (see a doctor, man) (also see note 8)
• The whole high-pitched voice thing (this applies to all of JAV) and the obviously fake (or maybe genuine but so over-the-top that they seem fake) noises (i.e. not just loud but make-believe or overzealous)
• The same applies to the common Japanese-adult-content exaggerations like ahegao (crossed eyes, overall "mind-broken" expressions etc.); my fantasies try to stay still-possible-in-real life, I guess, so no ra*pe, nothing obviously illegal, and no such "overkills'; looking slutty is another thing as ut happens in real life all the time (see note 9)

10. Things yet to see in JAV (that I've seen multiple times in Western porn)

• The girl mouthing the cock and balls at the same time
• That "voluntary mouth-extender" idea described above
• The girl spitting, or more like hawking ("hawk-tuah-ing") cum after an oral cream-pie (described later in the thread)
• The girl blowing her nose, esp. using her fingers (see note 10)

Notes:

1. Some exceptions exists, of course, which I also shared already in another thread
2. Meaning before and after swallowing, but there is also another "before and after" that can be discussed here
3. Swallows and facials can be outstanding as well, of course
4. A great dirty-talk series comes to mind: Dirty-Talking Female Announcer; also, the overall talkative atmosphere is great (one of my favorite examples); bonus points for female operators talking with the actress
5. I already mentioned several movies exemplifying this in the opening post, the "general list" linked above and elsewhere, but there is a particular title I just remembered (the girl checks how much the cocks grow thanks to her deepthroat "care")
6. Yes, it's becoming more and more of a psychoanalysis session: I guess the ideal "porn guy" for me is one that is a personified combination of my laziness, which I prefer to call energy-saving mode: you need a lot of energy to not follow the rules, and be playful, and be dominant, etc., and in porn, I just want to relax
7. Naturally, all play is play, so maybe what I mean is bringing childish/childlike elements into such "adult" thing as sex (it's an interesting separate topic again, bringing the whole diaper play to mind... to reference a certain youtuber... ehem... skull emoji!)
8. I mean there are a few Western actors even, and even the ones close to the top (like Manuel Ferrara), and for me, it's at the very least distracting; I would say I'm in the middle here: some people hate foreskin (mostly due to the fact that like 99% of the people they know have been circumcised due to semi-religious tradition), some people love it in any shapes and forms (which is also kind of biased, but in this case it looks much more like an understandable fetish than fetishizing not having foreskin), and as for me, I prefer if there is foreskin because it's another level of play, and it's like cock undressing ("ga-a-ay!")... but phimosis... it just takes me out of it, making me think about how uncomfortable and painful it might be — and in this case, I'm for circumcision (I think that in our age, circumcision is not medically justified because of the incomparably higher accessibility of basic hygiene levels... but in case of phimosis, I doubt that even those are effective)
9. An example of a shaky balance in Western porn for me here is Tiffany Watson: some of the stuff she does is pure gold, instant rock-hard-erection tier, but then she might be acting like a mindless sex bot, and so much so that it becomes ridiculous and kills the mood (a much milder example that works more often for me is Chloe Cherry, e.g. see her gallery for her Monsters of Cock scene with Pressure... a close-to-perfect blend of naivety and sluttiness)
10. I've seen it multiple times in Western porn, though, admittedly, more in amateur/rough stuff, and maybe it happens quite a bit in rough oral JAV as well, so any suggestions are welcome, as always (the latest example for me is this: great skills, great cock, great angle, great play overall, and at some point, at least once, she blows her nose and wipes her fingers off onto the covers)

 

[Zen10101]

Also, you make a lot of important points about the appeals of oral sex. And I'll pay attention to her slurping for sure

You reminded me of a list I've made some time ago here (before this more general one but also related), and you motivated me to elaborate. If I was to make the list of my sub- or co-fetishes (meaning something that enhances the oral part itself), those would be, including and expanding on your list and my previous one:

My criteria for a great blowjob scene (update 1)
1. Principles and play (partially overlaps with the technique subsection; to improve later)

• Preferably 1 on 1, though I certainly dig the "line of dicks" sub-genre — it's just that the quality of play almost always suffers with the increase of the number of people involved; also, "harem" oral scenarios is a fetish that we have discussed a lot here
• Preferably no forcing*, even better if the guy does not touch the girl at all, i.e. she has full control and all the opportunities to shine (to use the same great word you used); thankfully, the Japanese culture seems to share this attitude, hence such prevalence of the "masochistic men", "herbivores" etc.; also, naturally, some characters and settings further enhance this (e.g. female teacher in an all-boy school, nurse collecting semen samples, etc.); also thankfully, JAV even has a whole sub-genre for it: self-deepthroat (セルフイラマ) — I elaborated on this point even further in another thread (here and here)
• No vomit, so slapping the girl, no spitting on her face, etc.*
• The more sounds the better (though this depends on the girl), but not too loud
• Spit is more than welcome, of course, and it's anothersub-fetish: there is a lot you can do with it, but for now, just a few things: bubbles (of the mixture of spit, precum, cum etc.), drops on the floor (it's not that easy to find a movie where the camera work capitalizes on that by taking long shots of the "mixture" puddle growing by focusing on it and staying there while more drops fall in; two good examples are the first scene in this and the one with the sailor suit in this)
• Precum play is great; actually, I think it's only in JAV that I realized how much play can be built around it (though there is a Western scene I remember to this day because of the string of precum slowly extending and the girl shaking making it move): from the girl making "threads" of precum from the cockhead to her finger to teasing when the precum stain is shown growing more and more
• Cum play, naturally, but I wanted to focus on the more overlooked sub-fetishes as well: first, it's cum drops on the floor and clothes (the more the better, especially on the girls's thighs when she's kneeling); second, the after-orgasm cum play (even BJ-focused movies often just discard the cum or show it for mere seconds... もったいない; I actually mention this in the opening post of this thread, calling it "cum-in-mouth-then-spit-out-on-palm", also linking to a related thread, and here is an example of this performed perfectly, with cum splashes)
• Finishes, by order of preference: oral cream-pie (with play afterwards as described in the previous point preferred; if it's swallowing, then it should be with mouth shown "before and after"****, and audible gulps are another turn-on), throat cream-pie, facial*****
• Other enhancers (to be elaborated later): dirty words** (the overall anatomy-focus, following the whole process of getting the cum out of the balls, through the penis, and into the mouth and throat of the girl, but also comments on hardness, amount stored, thickness etc., teasing with "I'll make you feel good with my throat" etc.), penis play (physically playing with it, shaking it, slapping her face and other body parts with it, checking its "spring power", measuring it with body parts, objects, rulers etc., erection process focus, morning wood, bulges, "elephant pants"...), ball play...

2. Technique

• BJ-only, no hands, slow, sensual, with lots of dirty talk (I know some Japanese, so it's a factor), and lots of ball and head licking with popping sounds
• Deepthroat: depends actually (with some girls, open-mouth looks and sounds sexier, with some, it's the sound they make with their throat etc.; audible sounds of entering the throat are a huge bonus)
• Bonus points: trying talking with her mouth full, making "struggling" noises (probably the best one I know is Kouya Satsuki, e.g. in TMDI-077), slurping (not too loud, though), "sign of relief" (reminded by Kaise Anju while re-watching XRW-511; see the scene on the couch in the middle; it also reminded me of Audrey Holiday, who makes these "refreshing!" sighs a lot)

3. Actress appeals

• Physical attributes are a plus (big tits and ass), but have low priority, apart from the thighs of the woman kneeling (this is a huge turn-on for me if they are thick, and porcelain-white, and bare, and, as mentioned above, have drops of spit, precum and cum on them; a good example of super-sexy hips is the first scene here), lips and tongue (plump lips and long tongue are always a plus)
• Assertive or even aggressive female role types, characters etc. (as noted above, this can be due to the role in the movie, e.g. a teacher, but it can also be types like dominatrix, mature, gyaru etc.)

4. Actor appeals (aka "the cock and balls")

• Cock: long but "more long than thick", curved (not any kind of curve, but an "arch" one, so to speak, i.e. curved as a bridge, not as a winding road), which we've come to call the "configuration" here
• Balls: big, hanging, descended enough for the actress to at least "pop" them with her mouth, but ideally, to grab and tug on them
• Cum: depends on the play (thick white blobs are good for the "thickness play", and liquid puddles are great for splashes, duh)

5. Camera work and positions

• Different angles, but mostly from the side, with some "softcore" shots where the action is not visible, only audible, but we see the spit drops, see the girl's head bobbing from behind etc.; POV is minimal; BONY-055, one of the latest works by Nakamura-san, gives a lot of insight into how fresh camera angles make the familiar stuff feel new (he might have used angles like these before, but again, that's the title that reminded me of it recently)
• Ability to change the angle is great, but not as it's achieved via VR but by having multiple camera angles to switch between (I've only seen this in Western porn, but there is at least one title where the same scene is shown two times from different angles, one after another)
• If it's one on one, the girl kneeling is probably the way to go, filmed from the side, as mentioned already; there is a huge appeal to 69, of course, as it allows for great cocks displays, sometimes even better than the couch does (see below); if it's 2+ girls, however, the best position is probably on the couch/bed, with the camera filming the cock from the feet/knees perspective, i.e. we can see the balls as well, so the process of the girls sharing the cock is seen the best (though the side angle words here as well)

6. Setting and outfits

• Overall vibe of semen removal is great; as for the preferable "relationship", they are, from highest to lowest: nurses/patient, teacher/student, "sister/brother", "mother"/"son", "childhood friend"/guy, "friend's mother"/guy (plus, I have a thing for "dick prison" setting, e.g. VOSS-133, though it's not BJ-only)
• The setting facilitating the fetish appeals above is better, of course, e.g. solid flooring that does not absorb the spit/cum and makes it clearly visible is preferable (wooden floor and leather couches are among the best surfaces for oral scenes); if the liquids are not visible, they should at least be audible, e.g. the aforementioned spit drops on the floor should be loud and clear
• Couches are particularly good as they allow for a specific angle I like, which is when the guy is sitting on the couch, and the girl(s) is on the couch kneeling at his side, as it allows for possibly the best cock displays
• Of course, appropriate outfits are huge boosters, but there is no problem with that in JAV (at least I don't remember any instances of this issue)
• As for the females/males being fully clothed/naked or not (CFNM etc.), for me, it depends, though, again, the right outfit is more often a good thing than not (e.g. the sexy thighs can be accentuated by a skirt, which is actually true for the example scene I gave above)

7. Additional qualities

• Of course, the higher the resolution the better usually
• As for the mosaics, I've gotten used to it, and more often than not, in JAV, censoring is for the better (hides the cocks if they're big but actually gross-looking and/or weirdly-shaped and evens out the color if they're actually unappealing shades, especially the dick head, etc. — which reminds me that there was at least one shota-themed hentai anime where the mature women were praising the young cocks for how they are still pink and not dark)
• I've come to appreciate the lighting a lot, and the same goes for the choice of color temperature

* Some exceptions exists, of course, which I also shared already in another thread
** A great dirty-talk series comes to mind: Dirty-Talking Female Announcer; also, the overall talkative atmosphere is great (one of my favorite examples); bonus points for female operators talking with the actress
*** I already mentioned several movies exemplifying this in the opening post, the "general list" linked above and elsewhere, but there is a particular title I just remembered (the girl checks how much the cocks grow thanks to her deepthroat "care")
**** Meaning before and after swallowing, but there is also another "before and after" that can be discussed here
***** Swallows and facials can be outstanding as well, of course

Tremendous write up and got me thinking of my own criteria now haha, I'm definitely an even bigger fan of BJs because of your post.

 

[gregorsamsa]

Yeah, I just wanted to update it a bit and got carried away

(Also, I noticed just now that I forgot to put one of the links in where it should be: I now fixed it, in the "cum play" part: "...and here is an example of this performed perfectly, with cum splashes, under the spoiler". Overall, I have now re-read and corrected some typos and inconsistencies in the list)

Also, just to update the thread a bit with some content, yesterday, while checking some stuff, I found several CJOD titles that led me to this conclusion again: there are many very good BJ scenes in movies not centered around BJs, even double-blowjob ones. These all have at least one scene with sizeable cocks, great angles and lewd double action. The most noticeable one is CJOD-354, and it doesn't have blowjobs mentioned neither in the title nor in the tags

Some more examples are all by Sapporo Taro, so they are similar, in a good way, even though the studios are all different: CJOD-347, MIAA-610 and CAWD-253 (the first one has nice cocks and angles as well; the second one is a part of a whole series of stuff like that; and the last one — even by comparing the covers, you will see that these could have been the same series: it's just that the studio is different; also, the last one has a great double hand-job with a great angle)

 

[gregorsamsa]

And one more 'also': I have now updated the opening post with one more honorable mention: a series that I remembered thanks to this "treatise on oral porn". And it is actually a kind of porn that you need to be "in" to make as it combines several fetishes into something that is so blatantly unrealistic yet so on-point for the connoisseurs of such filth that it transcends any need for realism... and you just proclaim: "Yes, in one of my porn-dream parallel universes, my Japanese mom is a doctor specializing in measuring my cock!.."

"Self-analysis is really, really great... for porn!"
Sickmind Freakoid

 

[Zen10101]

I'm scouring my entire JAV collection purely looking for BJs and haven't even made past Ai Haneda yet lol. Her performances seem to make her my fav BJ performer atm.

Here's IPTD-925 with a nut timer which I really put to good use. She didn't quite stick the landing in this scene, and I wholeheartedly agree hands should always be off limits in BJs, but I'll give her a pass...

Did you mention eye contact as a positive criteria? It's a pre-requisite in all porn for me in fact. I'll be slowly digging into your posts to digest all of that golden information

 

[Zen10101]

Regarding cum...



Cum flying in in MVSD-276 and choking Saryu a bit. Compared to dribbling down cum unless it's super thick, otherwise this is more gratifying to me and I know I'm not alone on this one.

 

[gregorsamsa]

Did you mention eye contact as a positive criteria?

Great point. And it also got me thinking about several more points (by association or maybe just by stimulating my neurons): blowing on the cock, biting it and, of course, mouthing the cock and both balls at the same time (a rare sight even in Western porn with its relatively higher oral skill on average among the actresses... though it's a good question if it's actually true), but I'm sure I've seen it in JAV before

I'm inclined to think that the "matriarchs" of JAV like Kanou Hana have done it multiple times, but I just haven't seen it. With western porn, I can give multiple examples off the top of my head (at least I can list several stars that I'm sure can do this: Bobbi Starr, Anette Schwarz, Haley Scott*). So, I've also added a bonus category of "Things yet to see in JAV (that I've seen multiple times in Western porn)"

So, this single comment by you has already given me a lot more things to consider (adding even more after the initial "blowing on the cock" etc.) — see sections 1 and 3 of the list above, as well as the newly added Section 9 (it was #8 before, but see below... basically, this one seems like a perfect closer)

Also, it got me thinking that this "cock and both balls at the same time" thing might be rare just because it's not that easy to realize that the actress achieved such a feat when there's censorship... or maybe, just maybe, if she really does that, there would be nothing to censor? Hm... The big questions of life

And just to make it even more clearer that I'm not an "masochistic oral junkie", there are some things that are common in JAV that I don't care much about (see the newly added Section 8)

Cum flying in in MVSD-276 and choking Saryu a bit.

Oh, man, another bullseye. I even posted about this in another thread: another cum-shot to behold. Though I don't remember if she choked on it or not, and it's an important enhancer, you're right. So, to give you one where there is choking for sure, there is one with Endo Shiori in YFF-010 (in the scene where she is a teacher): she throats a cock, and in the end, the cock chokes her even more by shooting it down in a powerful stream. So, also added this as a special case of cum swallow in "Finishes" in Section 1

Also, mentioned you in the updated title of the list, naturally. And reformatted the notes to make them easier to read. The "treatise" is expanding quite nicely

* And let's check if I was right, now using Google... Bobbi Starr? Check. Annette Schwarz? Check. Haley Scott? Haven't found any proof so far, but I just didn't want to spend too much time on such a digression. I think even one example is enough

 

[Zen10101]

Well maybe not choking lol, Saryu was just taking it like a champ but the third squirt forced a reaction out of her, I think it just hit the right spot and made her gag a little.

glad to contribute to the list haha. Do you have a Google sheet that categorizes all the films with their specific features? Would be a hell lot of fun. We could even use apps script to build a search engine UI on top of that that allows us to search visually, like our own javlibrary for BJs.