That's pretty cool. I remember checking it out a couple of years ago, and people complained it wasn't well optimized for, well, lots of skin (i.e. upscaling porn videos), and the developers just said they listen to all suggestions. I guess they did!
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I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. I normally either just do a 2x upscale at native framerate, or do a 1.5x upscale at 150% framerate. I use the Proteus model and put it in MANUAL mode. I will scrub the timeline until I find a good clear frame with no motion blur in the preview window. I then click ESTIMATE to see what the program suggests. I prefer to leave it in manual to have the entire clip have a constant setting. This screenshot is just an example, these are the values it recommended for me. I normally dial its suggestion DOWN more often than crank it up. I render a few previews as I tweak it.
I get more definition and sharpen with Artemis. When I have some time I'll post the configuration I'm using, although I'm still testing. I'll try to do a basic tutorial as well, but if you want to do it @NaughtyProfessor , you are welcome.
The rescaling from 4K to 8K has impressed me, it almost looks better than a native 8K from Fanza. With native 8K movies I also get a bit of an improvement. I'm so happy with the results, that despite it costs 300 euros / dollars, I have bought it.
With my RTX 4070 Ti Super graphics card, a 20 minute video takes about 12 -15 hours to process with Artemis, running at 100%... It requires a lot of hardware.. But even so for me it's worth it.
have an example of a scene that you always change these settings on?I use three methods. From the most to the least recommended:
+ In Basic Video Settings, I activate the Alignement menu, and move the Right (Scale) bar to the left, as far as the eyes can take. Some movies I have to set to 2.7 or 3:
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In Basic Video Settings, Origin menu, and Forward bar to the left. It's the zoom. Zoom everything out a bit to make it look smaller, but you see the girls farther away, of course....
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This should not be touched, use only in extreme cases where you see very large girls. In Advanced video settings, top left, set IPD to Manual, and set IPD higher than yours. With this the size of what you see is reduced.
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Yes, the main flaw of this player is that it uses weird (or technical) names for simple things like zoom or scale...
is there a way to save the configuration per scene? would hate having to readjust every time..
There is no fixed guideline, it usually depends on the director. VR movies are shot with an IPD (pupillary distance) that is usually in the average, around 64-65 mm. I have a high IPD of 68.5 mm, so in almost every movie I see the girls bigger than normal. If you have 62 mm for example, you see them smaller than their actual size. I have to use the first setting I posted, in almost every VR. But it fix 99% of them for me.
Then there are directors who don't adjust to the average, and I see people even bigger. For example VRKM usually has bigger girls than other studios, but acceptable with adjustments. The 8K versions of KIWVR I can't watch them, for example KIWVR-745, I see the actress huge, almost as if I were a hobbit. If you download it, compare it with one of Kawaii or JUVR, and you can see the difference, no matter what IPD you have.
Since a few months ago, Moodyz and S1 are releasing movies with the actresses with big heads, it's very strange, as if they were using zoom, there is an inept technician who does not know how to adjust the camera. For example MDVR-334, compare it with any other of Ibuki as MDVR-296, and it seems that Ibuki has grown 30 centimeters... Also the trailer of SIVR-405, I see the model huge.
These movies even using the three parameters I posted, I still see giant girls, it breaks my immersion. I can't watch them.
Fortunately in Heresphere you only have to adjust it once, the settings are saved automatically per scene. Only if you move the file to another location, you have to adjust it again.
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I can kinda understand those fans of full nudity but I'm more on the other side. I think the clothes make the fantasy. If it's a school girl scenario, then the uniform makes and keeps the illusion alive. It also adds a sense of urgency, like if it were actually happening in a classroom, she might not have time to fully strip down (although the guy usually has time to take it all off LOL). And if she goes fully nude, then it's just any other video not necessarily within the fantasy so can have some repetitive sameness. If she takes off her clothes completely, then leaving on a token bit like the neck tie is ok.
This applies for most cute or alluring costumes like school uniform, office lady, lingerie, maid, evening gown, etc. but if it's a factory uniform then, I'm all for stripping that off asap.
And for some girls (definitely not including Rena Miyashita or Mio Ishikawa), the clothes help hide a flabby belly or other flaws that can be distracting esp in VR that exposes all the details.
This applies for most cute or alluring costumes like school uniform, office lady, lingerie, maid, evening gown, etc. but if it's a factory uniform then, I'm all for stripping that off asap.
And for some girls (definitely not including Rena Miyashita or Mio Ishikawa), the clothes help hide a flabby belly or other flaws that can be distracting esp in VR that exposes all the details.
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I understand that there are people who like clothed sex, in fact it is the majority, because 80% of Japanese porn is clothed. What bothers me is that there is no rotation, and that makes it worse because they only do one VR every 6 months with star actresses.
For example other actresses of S1 or Moodyz have done VRs without clothes, then they have done with clothes and I have not said anything, because I think it's OK, so they please everyone.
However this VR of Rena is all with clothes, and if you look at the previous one, also with clothes, oils.... The same thing has happened with Mio, Nana Miho, or Miru.... The last 3 VRs of those actresses are all with clothes or oils, another guys on screen, and since they only shoot one VR every 6 months, it's been a year and a half since those actresses have been naked. This is pornography, but they haven't shot a nude VR for two years... I don't get it.. In my personal case as I don't watch 2D porn anymore... so 2 years without watching a movie of 4 or my favorite actresses.
The underlying problem is that they don't alternate, and that they only shoot VRs every six months. If you don't like one, the wait is eternal. And with the uncertainty that maybe in a month, they have retired, because this profession is very short-lived.
Anyway, as I have always said I complain a lot about this topic, but the thread was not created for me or my tastes, but for everyone to give their opinion or recommend their favorite VRs. So if you, @periph , like movies with clothes, then don't be shy and recommend the ones you like too. I will criticize them, but that's what a forum is for.... And I'm sure many others will be interested, because I know that my tastes are minority, unfortunately.
In the end almost only 2dxxxisdead, Chewbaka, me and few others recommend movies. The more people recommend, the more variety there will be....
For example other actresses of S1 or Moodyz have done VRs without clothes, then they have done with clothes and I have not said anything, because I think it's OK, so they please everyone.
However this VR of Rena is all with clothes, and if you look at the previous one, also with clothes, oils.... The same thing has happened with Mio, Nana Miho, or Miru.... The last 3 VRs of those actresses are all with clothes or oils, another guys on screen, and since they only shoot one VR every 6 months, it's been a year and a half since those actresses have been naked. This is pornography, but they haven't shot a nude VR for two years... I don't get it.. In my personal case as I don't watch 2D porn anymore... so 2 years without watching a movie of 4 or my favorite actresses.
The underlying problem is that they don't alternate, and that they only shoot VRs every six months. If you don't like one, the wait is eternal. And with the uncertainty that maybe in a month, they have retired, because this profession is very short-lived.
Anyway, as I have always said I complain a lot about this topic, but the thread was not created for me or my tastes, but for everyone to give their opinion or recommend their favorite VRs. So if you, @periph , like movies with clothes, then don't be shy and recommend the ones you like too. I will criticize them, but that's what a forum is for....
And I'm sure many others will be interested, because I know that my tastes are minority, unfortunately.In the end almost only 2dxxxisdead, Chewbaka, me and few others recommend movies. The more people recommend, the more variety there will be....
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Ah, another fellow connoisseur of partial nudity.
Ah, its just the cheerleader top mostly pulled up so this works just fine for me.
Was this filmed like her previous VR though, or did they at least not fuck up the camera work this time?
Sale going on @ Afesta now.
If you don't already have it, this is absolutely a must buy at only 640 yen. Especially since this is has no DRM and is very high quality compared to Fanza.
Her other 2 VR of 2024 in 8k are also on sale but I'm not a fan of those as they have weird themes. This was her most normal release of 2024 and its still damn good overall despite the 3rd scene being completely wasted.
DSVR-1417 - https://www.afesta.tv/files/f8e42e471c32c32aa36446fdb42d1275
All of the other VR titles on sale: https://www.afesta.tv/search/all?event=178&page=1&period=all
If you don't already have it, this is absolutely a must buy at only 640 yen. Especially since this is has no DRM and is very high quality compared to Fanza.
Her other 2 VR of 2024 in 8k are also on sale but I'm not a fan of those as they have weird themes. This was her most normal release of 2024 and its still damn good overall despite the 3rd scene being completely wasted.
DSVR-1417 - https://www.afesta.tv/files/f8e42e471c32c32aa36446fdb42d1275
All of the other VR titles on sale: https://www.afesta.tv/search/all?event=178&page=1&period=all
did somebody here leave the "Mr Natch" review on this video's afesta page? the opinion sounds very familiar. lol
"The purpose of virtual reality is to see the scene where Mei Miyajima is naked and having sex face-to-face with the camera up in the real image quality.Unfortunately, SOD VR has stopped making such works. I want you to return to this kind of "virtual girlfriend experience" with full-nude and face-to-face scenes. This is the only VR movie I buy."
purchase-wise are viewers outside Japan able to log in and buy at afesta without problem? what are the payment options? and do you get the full 8k high res version at the 640 yen sale price? for the compilation releases, do they include the full scenes of the original or do they cut scenes out or edit scenes shorter?
also, what does the "Interlocking" or "takumi" tag on that site mean? [edit: figured the first one out, it connects to control sex toys]
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I don't know, I haven't watched it. I'll watch for you this night.
Have you bought anything?
It's the Japanese VR with the best image quality I've ever watched (A Festa's version, Fanza's version sucks). At that time A Festa still used bitrate at 100 Mbps, now it's down to 80 Mbps.
Miyajima Mei is absolutely sublime in this movie. This is true VR, in my Top 10 of all time. What SOD VR is doing now is garbage.
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Mr Natch is a famous and respectable Japanese VR reviewer, currently in the Global Top 30 of the most rated reviewers on Fanza...
Not bad for someone who doesn't know a word of Japanese, and who only reviews VR titles... Strangely, A Festa works without any problem in the West: it has a website in English, you don't need a VPN, and you can buy points with any credit card. No DRM, just mp4 files to use where you want.
Yes, the discounted versions have the high quality 8K version, they are the same version. On the subject of compilations it depends, some come with the complete movie and others with selected scenes. I haven't bought many compilations, that's what Chewbaka knows more about, I think he bought a few as he discovered the store.
Takumi is what A Festa calls their special versions with more bitrate. If you can, always buy the Takumi versions, they look the best.
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By the way, in relation to everything we are talking about, and beyond tastes and clothes or not clothes, there is one thing I have never understood about the Japanese mentality, regarding VR.
The Japanese do VR exactly the same as 2D porn, when it's a different medium. Something that does not happen in the West. I'm going to try to explain.
In 2D porn you are just a voyeur, a spectator watching a movie on TV or phone. In this context, it is similar to a Hollywood movie. You see the actors acting outside of you, and that's why movies make sense, like the student with the teacher, sex with family members, gonzo themes, sex with comedy... It's a movie where you just watch, it's actors acting. Like going to the movies.
But in VR, you are the main character, and that changes everything. But not for Japanese studios.
For me, VR porn makes sense if I can believe that I'm inside the movie, that I'm the one doing things with the actress. And in this context, I can believe that I'm making love with a neighbor, with the sister-in-law, with a co-worker, at home, at work, in a car, in a night club... In more or less realistic scenarios.
However, I can't get into a VR in which I enter the school and fuck four students, in which I kidnap a bus of students and r*** them, or in which my sister has a voodoo doll with which she moves my arms to make me fuck her, like one of the last from SOD. They are scenarios for a 2D movie, not a VR.
These fantasy situations, even uncomfortable ones, with f***rced sex, breaks the immersion, it shouldn't be the main engine of VR, as it is in Japan.
For me VR is this:
A pretty girl getting into bed with you, the excuse doesn't matter, and there is realistic sex with the camera very close. Here I can believe that I am the one inside the movie, and I "feel" the girl, which should be the goal of porn VR.
By the time you finish watching the movie your brain has believed that you have made love to the wonderful Miyajima Mei, which is a brutal sensation that can only be felt with VR, the closest thing to real sex that exist.
This, on the other hand:
Or this:
Interestingly, in the West they have my concept of VR. If you look, 90% of the movies use realistic situations. The distances and immersion are crap, but that's another topic....
I'm not saying that fantasy plots or weird situations don't have to exist, some are fun and you can make the exception, but it really baffles me that so many Japanese VRs are like that. They shoot VR with the mindset of 2D movies, and it shouldn't be that way, they are different mediums.
Personally, the staging of western VRs with the immersion and distances of Japanese VRs, would be the perfect combination. It's asking too much, I guess...
The Japanese do VR exactly the same as 2D porn, when it's a different medium. Something that does not happen in the West. I'm going to try to explain.
In 2D porn you are just a voyeur, a spectator watching a movie on TV or phone. In this context, it is similar to a Hollywood movie. You see the actors acting outside of you, and that's why movies make sense, like the student with the teacher, sex with family members, gonzo themes, sex with comedy... It's a movie where you just watch, it's actors acting. Like going to the movies.
But in VR, you are the main character, and that changes everything. But not for Japanese studios.
For me, VR porn makes sense if I can believe that I'm inside the movie, that I'm the one doing things with the actress. And in this context, I can believe that I'm making love with a neighbor, with the sister-in-law, with a co-worker, at home, at work, in a car, in a night club... In more or less realistic scenarios.
However, I can't get into a VR in which I enter the school and fuck four students, in which I kidnap a bus of students and r*** them, or in which my sister has a voodoo doll with which she moves my arms to make me fuck her, like one of the last from SOD. They are scenarios for a 2D movie, not a VR.
These fantasy situations, even uncomfortable ones, with f***rced sex, breaks the immersion, it shouldn't be the main engine of VR, as it is in Japan.
For me VR is this:
A pretty girl getting into bed with you, the excuse doesn't matter, and there is realistic sex with the camera very close. Here I can believe that I am the one inside the movie, and I "feel" the girl, which should be the goal of porn VR.
By the time you finish watching the movie your brain has believed that you have made love to the wonderful Miyajima Mei, which is a brutal sensation that can only be felt with VR, the closest thing to real sex that exist.
This, on the other hand:
Or this:
Interestingly, in the West they have my concept of VR. If you look, 90% of the movies use realistic situations. The distances and immersion are crap, but that's another topic....
I'm not saying that fantasy plots or weird situations don't have to exist, some are fun and you can make the exception, but it really baffles me that so many Japanese VRs are like that. They shoot VR with the mindset of 2D movies, and it shouldn't be that way, they are different mediums.
Personally, the staging of western VRs with the immersion and distances of Japanese VRs, would be the perfect combination. It's asking too much, I guess...
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Thanks. Since you are using Topaz way longer than we do tips are always welcome. Right now I'm testing a lot with it but so far I don't have enough data or expierence to add anything to this discussion. If you have any more tips and tricks that you want to share let us know.
Nice. URVRSP-432 seems to be very similar from the plot to URVRSP-287. But no way the girl from URVRSP-432 is 42 years old as they claim in their marketing@2dxxxisdead , It looks like Unfinished is slowly coming back from the Dark Side and they are releasing again the kind of movies we like....
URVRSP-433 seems to be on the rougher side but it's very minor, could be fine. But hard to judge from the little info we have.
Oh no... "the other side"
I'm joking obviously. Feel free to share whatever you like unless it's from KOMZ it's fine to discuss for me. Not everyone has to agree on everything and has to share the exact same taste in this thread. I personally don't mind if they do releases with clothes because like you say it's very common and to be expected that around 60-70% of all releases the girl is either fully or almost fully clothes in sex scenes. But also I feel the pain of @Walle12 from time to time that if they do like 4 or more releases in a row like that with a girl I like it can be very frustrating. VR is a niche and for most actresses we only get 1-3 releases a year or none for girls that are with Kawaii for example. That being said it's also fine to rant and complain about this stuff or whatever you want to complain about JAV VR related. I will for example keep complaining about releases with oil. Otherwise we would just copy the marketing material of FANZA and say fake stuff like the fake reviews on SAVR releases and this thread would be super boring.
My monkey brain can't process this. Urgency? Believeable scenario? Could she really dress up fast enough if we are about to get caught? Does it make sense for the plot? But we are in a classroom and... Too complicated for me. If I see a beautiful girl in VR I want to be close to her, have a good look at her face first but also I want to be able to look down on her when I choose to and see her amazing body without any clothes, no oil or other nonsense or distractions, that's about it.
Ok, ok I stop it now with the prequel memes but here I couldn't resist
I can't believe it but I have to defend SOD man and the other weird things this studios releases, here we go.
You say that 3DSVR-1417 is an immersive experience while the r*ape on the bus release is not. That is true for you and me and most other people. But only because we desire the intimacy with the beautiful girl but we would hate to point a gun on a teenager on her way to her school to force her to have sex with us. But for those that desire exactly that the opposite might be true. It depends on the release but these crazy movies can be immersive to some. It's just not to our tastes.
The only reason it does not happen in the west is that they fear the payment services would stop working with them like they put a gun on the Japanese industry in the past. Also the western releases are very uncreative and the girls only play themselves. Which means they are more a stripper/sex worker than a girlfriend, more a well paid prostitute than a lawyer or realtor or whatever role they try to slip into. It again depends on the releases but JAV VR to me has much better stories and is way more creative than western VRs.
Yes, of course. I suppose someone will find inmmersive forcing women or hijacking a bus and to force a group of schoolgirls. Or fuck a murderess with a blood-soaked sack.... But I don't think that's in the majority.... And yet it's in the majority in SOD titles. And now studios that have never done it before, like Unfinished, Kawaii, SAVR, are shooting f***rced sex...
As I said, I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but it shouldn't be the leitmotiv of VR either. It's getting harder and harder to find realistic VR movies that don't have weird stuff in them. When it's not those kinds of SOD movies it's f***rced sex, sex with your sister or your daughter, or absurd costumes, or oils....
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My prayers have been answered by the gods of realistic VR, the one and only true religion: Three years later, Fujita naked, without weird stuff.
VRKM-1539 April 12
Too bad we have to wait months for it to come out in A Festa with premium image quality....
By the way, another actress who has lost a lot of weight. It's a plague:
This title is for @periph and @chewbaka:
It's about a washing machine manufacturer in despair because clothes shrink when they are washed, with no known reason....
3DSVR-1713 March 17
VRKM-1539 April 12
Too bad we have to wait months for it to come out in A Festa with premium image quality....
By the way, another actress who has lost a lot of weight. It's a plague:
This title is for @periph and @chewbaka:
It's about a washing machine manufacturer in despair because clothes shrink when they are washed, with no known reason....
3DSVR-1713 March 17
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I agree with you here. I quite enjoy the clothed and partially clothed scenes. To me, it adds a bit of realism that's not often found in adult film.
I agree with you here. While I enjoy a lot of the videos with weird themes, the ones with forced or demeaning scenes don't do anything at all for me. I find them repulsive.