A social inquiry: Why Male JAV looks very common

takako

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While most of the female JAV are startling beautiful, why Male JAV looks very common, just like your next door neighbor John or Larry. Some of them are even ugly (I mean no offence. You know in western AV, usually tall, strong or handsome actors are chosen).
 

THUNDER

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I think most of the tall handsome men from the east have a better carrier a better jobs.....so now left with some of the ugly one with no job loser willing to go into porn bussiness...so that why you are seeing some ugly one in the Jav porn..:)
I like mature porn...some i saw mom and son incest porn those guys who playing the son they look kind of retarded and ugly too..LOL....but i don't care i just watching the MOM..hehe
That's my 2 cents..
 

hitman007

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Thunder, maybe there is something in what you said. But I think even rich and hansome guys (suppose you are one of them) can hardly resist the temptation of working (if we call it "working") with attractive, gorgeous girls like Takako Kitahara or Ran Asakawa.
I guess, the producers are stratigically using average men enjoying pleasure with JAV ladies...just to make viewers like us feel "one of us" can bury his head among Takako's silky thighs. If he can, then I can. This might be the charm of JAV Fantasy. Anyway, most JAV viewers are just common and ugly guys like me ;-D
The truth is we had a ball.
 

THUNDER

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@Hitman007.....LOL..rich and handsome guys are not desperate to work in porn with those gorgeous girls Takako Kitahara or Ran Asakawa like you say....if they are rich and handsome living in Japan do you think they want to work in porn just to have sex with those girls...i guess not....if they got big dollars they can get girls as hot as Takako Kitahara or Ran Asakawa or even better...not every men are dreaming to work in PORN..LMAO....specialty Asian families.
BTW...the sex in film is much different than the sex at home with all the camera,light and some peoples taking pictures while you screwing those hot chicks..
Go to Vietnam or Thai you can get all the hot chicks almost everywhere in the city...coffee shop,bar,massage saloon,spa even you go to cut your hair there are rooms in the back for you to have sex too..LOL.......and there are hundered more places too but it take all day to type it.....only $10 U.S you got yourself a very fine girl but if you want to pay more your chick are more hotter..LOL...($1 U.S =$10,000 VN cash)so i don't need to put my face between Takako Kitahara or Ran Asakawa thights to have balls no thank you....can't wait till new year go back to Nam again than we all have BALLS...LMAO
What i am trying to say is not every men are dying to go apply a job in porn bussiness because they have Takako Kitahara or Ran Asakawa and all the men can't wait to put their face between those girls thighs....you got moneys you got chicks no need to get into porn just to have sex with Takako Kitahara or Ran Asakawa or whatever...But if you are in need of the moneys to help out your family to put foods on the table....that's a different story...
that's my other 2 cents.
 

Amerikajinmusume

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I actually prefer that you have some normal looking guys in there. For example I hate how in American porn you see these obnoxious looking guys who look (and act) like they spend their entire day at the gym. I hate seeing really fat make actors in porn, but the "average joe" is refreshing.
 

gizmogal

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I totally agree with Amerikajinmusume! That's one of the main reasons I AVOID American porn; it's kind of intimidating and weird to see someone being done by a macho man! ;-;
 

wilson99

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I'm pretty sure we see rich studs get hot chicks everyday in life. Its more common. I think the average joe could relate to that normal guy banging that hot chick. I'm more satisfied to see a normal guy or even some ugly dude bang those hot jav chicks. It gives me hope that one day just maybe a normal guy like me can bang a chick like her.
 

Volcan

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Looks don't really matter as much for guys and when they do it's for that 'ordinary guy' or 'young guy' fetish. I myself would prefer the super-stud to be the default and save the regular guys for incest tapes.
 

Amerikajinmusume

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The general consensus here seems to be that "average" looking male actors in JAV are unattractive. The interesting thing about this complaint however is that no real physical flaws are being described in this thread! These actors aren't disliked because they are too fat or too skinny, but merely because they are "average". Why is this? Does this mean that a Japanese male who is not a "super-stud" is considered to be unattractive by default? Do they all need a gym membership and a bottle of hairspray to be considered attractive (at least as JAV actors)?

I think that there are many qualities about Japanese males that make even "average" looking actors in JAV both attractive and sexy. Wouldn't most male JAV fans say the same about some of the "average" Japanese actresses seen in most JAV? Surely there has to be something about the mannerisms or physical features of JAV actors (whether male or female) that we all find attractive regardless of how perfect (or imperfect in this case) some actors look?

Basically I'm wondering why "averageness" is considered so unattractive. Is this because you want to see impossibly beautiful actors in JAV to fulfill a fantasy of perfection, or is it because you feel your standards are too high to even watch an "average" looking actor? I'd really like to hear some of the opinions.
 

fuwavsgodzilla

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it is not about the looking or penis size.
the jav's producers needed a kind of stimulation to the Spectators,and the stimulation is made of the extra contrast between the beautiful ,young girls and the ugly ,unpleasant ,old ,bald men.
 

I love Jgirls

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I find it unpleasant to see men who are super studs banging hot chicks in porn. I saw this Tia Tanaka scene the other day and she was fucking this monstrosity called Lee Stone. That man either lives in the gym, or takes a lot of steriods. Anyway, most of the super studs in American porn look like douchebags. At least the male JAV actors generally don't look like douchebags.
 

vincent_z

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The male performers' minefield

I submit that this ultimately settles depending on what kind of a viewer you are.
If you're the voyeur type watching a JAV as if it was a television newscast, then you're concentrating on the female. You might even prefer that no male appears in the scene with her. :virtuous:
If you're the participatory type watching a JAV as though you are there on the set with the female, awaiting the cue to go on camera and ravish her, then you want to be able to identify somewhat with the male who actually performs the on-camera act. He can't be too ugly, but he also can't be too handsome.
In western porn, what ultimately matters as far as each scene goes is the male's "money shot". It is important for the male to produce one; but it is also important that it be sufficiently voluminous. :stress:
In JAV, verified reports of faked climaxes are rampant. In many of the AVs (and UAVs) I've viewed, our functioning male does not deliver the ordnance. :notagain: Maybe this will change in the future.
But what I want everybody here to contemplate is: It is not "easy" to be a male working in erotica. Especially explicit erotica. Especially hetero explicit erotica. :snicker:
The female is on whom most's eyes are. You're being instructed to perform acts on the female in "camera-friendly" (for her) positions & angles. The female might be unenthusiastic about you.
With all this being put on your shoulders (& other body parts), you must provide the single most important aspect of the scene - the visible climax. And in JAV, you have to ensure that your sperm lands on an area of the female's body that does not have to be mosaiced.
In the six-to-ten seconds when you go beyond the point of halting [i.e.: the sperm is about to shoot], the JAV male must
  • Pull out of the female's pussy.
  • Remove the condom.
  • Be a gymnast in manuevering his lower body to an unmosaiced area of the female's body.
  • Ejaculate a sufficient amount of sperm.
Do you think you could do that? Do any of you want to try that with your girlfriend/wife/significant other? (With a videocamera rolling?)
As far as the JAV male's appearance is: There will continue to be a "need" for ugly (or I would refer to them as "grotesque") males for the rougher sex scenes. If the storyline calls for the AV Idol to be r***ing; do you want to see a good-looking male being the assailant?
 

downloadx

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While most of the female JAV are startling beautiful, why Male JAV looks very common, just like your next door neighbor John or Larry. Some of them are even ugly (I mean no offence. You know in western AV, usually tall, strong or handsome actors are chosen).

Ron Jeremy is handsome?

There are plenty of handsome men in JAV's, but they usually sell terribly for exactly that reason. The only reason they ever use handsome men in JAVs is when the JAV is marketed for couples or women. Really.

I know some bi guys would like more handsome men in their JAVs, but from a business perspective they're best off with ordinary looking guys. There are even a few pornos specifically with hideously looking guys. The cover was a good laugh.
 

aniking_8

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Majority Japanese men are ugly and the handsome one are usually singers, actors, and have a lot of pride in themselves and would never join AV Industry.
 

I love Jgirls

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I like the way that JAV pretty much ignores the men. American porn will often focus the camera on the men more than I would like.
Hey American Porn Industry,
I'm straight and 99% of the audience for your straight porn is straight males. We're not watching it to look at the men.
 

Volcan

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While I hated it at the time, I sort of miss the close-up shots of sweaty guys with bad hair thrusting away with their eyes closed.
 

Axandra

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I just finished writing a quite lenghty reply. I clicked the Preview button and got logged out. Post lost, and 15 minutes of my life gone forever. I hate it!

Exactly how long is the damn login timeout??
 

Tokyo

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I really don't care about the male's look. I just like their ways to make the young and beautiful JAV girls getting their multiple orgasms.