About the hijackers / links stealers...

[Desu]

hi
i'm quite new here, so i don't know how my opinion will be weighted; anyways, i'm having some problems with people who post their links in my threads.

i've reported them, but i find it weird that that behaviour has been tolerated so far.
hijacking is usually punished really hard on almost every board, but it seems like there is some "special rule" that allow senior users to abuse the newer ones (somebody registered in 2008 and still doing this moronic things? not banned yet? WTF???)

the same goes for the "no advertising" rule: i see people with URLs in nickname, in files name, in signature, etc....do they have "special rights"?

and the people who continuously bump their threads (usually crap, but upped on paying hosts)?

i'm not happy and i won't live with it, so a reply from the staff would be appreciated

 

[supermax]

I only wanna making mirror links, so people have more chances to download, that's all

 

[Desu]

it's not just about you; this happened to me with another user
(btw sorry for my rude language on that thread...i don't get angry easily, it only happens to me when there's something i don't understand)

EDIT: just to explain why i'm causing all this drama;
i'm paying a seedbox - a good seedbox, not the $3/month - to download torrents as soon as they're released; i'm paying a vps where i copy the files from the seedbox

**** the above is not of your concern, it's a choice of mine, and i'd never brought it up if it wasn't for explaining the actual situation ****

i spend my time splitting the files, checking them, uploading them to host, sometimes mirroring them, searching for covers and/or screenshots and info, posting them here in a (IMHO) pleasant way; i try to use mostly MU because it seems to be preferred by the vast majority here....

(this is what I do, and what a good uploader should do)

... then somebody pick the links, remote upload them, and post those links in my thread, earning points off my work (yeah, it's p2p, but still...), exposing my original uploads to the risk of deletion (if not downloaded)

IMHO in a forum like this, admins and mods should be GODS, and good uploaders should be something like SAINTS (just for comparison), because they're work is what keep attracting new users
and i'm not talking about who copypaste the ralume, jav4u etc stuff; that's easy to do, but it will lead to nowhere, because mirroring files is a joke, even a 10 y/o kid could do it; what counts is new content, which isn't something all the so-called uploaders can provide

this is the story so far... /edit

I only wanna making mirror links, so people have more chances to download, that's all

if so, why don't you open your own thread? it's too easy to enter in a popular thread and simply drop your links, without any effort on your part
AND what about the hosters rewards? do you know that files are kept alive by the people downloading them? if my files get deleted because people download yours, will you give me the points YOU earned doing nothing more than remote upload a couple of files in 5 minutes?

users will always complain about this and that host, but it should be the original uploader's concern wether to mirror them or not.

mind you, even with a million of mirrors, you could never make everybody happy: it's the human nature :-D

partially edited (i've not been clear enough): what i really fail to understand is; if there is a thread created by Desu, named "ABC-123 on MU", that thread MUST be about the ABC-123 provided by Desu and upped on MU.
if somebody asks for a RS mirror, Desu will do it or not, and in case will modify the title; but that would be his own choice.
if DokuganRyu feels like he needs some point in his RS account it may mirror the files, but he will have to open a new thread, because it's a different user, using different host, and the files are not the same anymore (he could have renamed or rared them, or they could have been corrupted in the transfer, for example), so those links don't pertain to that thread.
there's nothing stopping him from opening his own thread and post those links in there; in fact it would be a wise choice, because if he's a popular uploader people will follow him, and if he's bad he will not abuse the original uploader's popularity (if he has any).

also, what if -following the above example- Desu wouldn't have uploaded ABCD-123? obviously, there would have been nothing to mirror, so no work for the above user DokuganRyu... so why should he be credited in the original thread, if without that thread he shouldn't had nothing to be credited about? another reason for him to open his own. /partial edit

anyway, i've already been warned, so it may be that i'm on the wrong side... if some mods or admin could speak about this, this matter would be settled for me

no hard feelings guys, but i'm uploading and posting on various boards since... almost ten years? (whoa! time flies doesn't it?) and this is the first time i see this behaviour being accepted in a board so big and popular

as i wrote to a mod, i'm not going to live with it, so just tell me IF and HOW you'll apply the no-hijacking rule, then i'll have to choose if stay here or leave, and the peace will come back to this nice place.

 

[Sakunyuusha]

hi
i'm quite new here

Say what now? Yes, I see the June 2009 registration date clear as crystal: but, I just don't believe it! Aren't you Pedobear from HongFire? Maybe, maybe not. I've seen your avatar before, though, and I could have sworn I saw it back when I first signed up here myself. Anyway ...

hijacking is usually punished really hard on almost every board

Is it hijacking if somebody posts their torrent and DDL links in your thread? I think this is a question where either answer is accurate. "Yes," because you made the thread and you may privately wish for people to use your torrents that you worked hard to create. "No," because if everybody made a different thread every time he wanted to upload something, the board would get flooded with reposts. Actually, it already has in JAV: I saw not one, not two, but five different threads with five different titles made by five different members for the exact same video. Talk about frustrating!

but it seems like there is some "special rule" that allow senior users to abuse the newer ones

No, no, no, no. Don't worry. ^_^ No such thing. Don't mind registration dates. Also disregard reputation, because many new members (like yourself!) can skyrocket to the top of the ratings with just a few very popular porn uploads. What I would pay attention to is the post count plus the reputation plus the registration date. If the post count is less than 50, it doesn't matter if this guy signed up 1999 -- he's not a major contributor, uploads or otherwise. Likewise, if his post count is 2000 but his reputation isn't all that high, it just means he's a chatty person but not important in the community. *hint hint*

the same goes for the "no advertising" rule: i see people with URLs in nickname, in files name, in signature, etc....do they have "special rights"?

This is almost impossible to enforce because many of the top uploaders insist on advertising their websites, forums, etc. and to tell them not to would be to lose their patronage. But again, I don't think it has anything to do with seniority, really.

 

[Desu]

Say what now? Yes, I see the June 2009 registration date clear as crystal: but, I just don't believe it! Aren't you Pedobear from HongFire? Maybe, maybe not. I've seen your avatar before, though, and I could have sworn I saw it back when I first signed up here myself. Anyway ...

that's not me, sorry; a pedobear nickname or avatar in a porn forum could be a bit...misleading? :XD:

Is it hijacking if somebody posts their torrent and DDL links in your thread? I think this is a question where either answer is accurate. "Yes," because you made the thread and you may privately wish for people to use your torrents that you worked hard to create. "No," because if everybody made a different thread every time he wanted to upload something, the board would get flooded with reposts. Actually, it already has in JAV: I saw not one, not two, but five different threads with five different titles made by five different members for the exact same video. Talk about frustrating!

yup! that's exactly what i meant by "hijacking".
i get both your points in saying yes or no, but (and i've already bored to death a mod explaining this ) if we're talking about torrents there's no problem, because the .torrent files even renamed, reupped, modified, etc will always point to the same files;
in DDL if somebody copy my files and post them in his own thread it's ok... we all have to take our stuff from somewhere and that's the way i started too, but if the guy post his links directly in my thread, just under those of mine, well that's not fair and looks like a lack of respect (i take it as an attack); he's also damaging me, because i need my files to be downloaded to know if they're appreciated or not and to generate points for premium renewal.

this is how i see it:
my upload 1 ----> forum thread ----> downloads ----> points, premium ----> more uploads

when people steal my links it goes this way:
my upload 1 ----> forum thread ----> some DLs ----> hijacking ----> less DLs than what i expected ----> less points, no premium ----> losing interest in uploading

flooding the board does have nothing to do with this, since the people who hijack usually don't care about opening new threads, they only want to gain points off other post's popularity... in other words, if there would be a law enforcing them in this, they would probably stop posting at all...and please don't give me that "i just want to give others more download choices", like supermax did because that's utterly BS! if somebody really care about others, he should spend his time opening new threads and upping things on his own.
what he (and others) is doing is called point-whoring (another term i recently discovered), and has NOTHING to do with file sharing

No, no, no, no. Don't worry. ^_^ No such thing. Don't mind registration dates. Also disregard reputation, because many new members (like yourself!) can skyrocket to the top of the ratings with just a few very popular porn uploads. What I would pay attention to is the post count plus the reputation plus the registration date. If the post count is less than 50, it doesn't matter if this guy signed up 1999 -- he's not a major contributor, uploads or otherwise. Likewise, if his post count is 2000 but his reputation isn't all that high, it just means he's a chatty person but not important in the community. *hint hint*

too bad i'm not a chatter (my poor english doesn't allow me), because i find your posts really funny -in a good way- and somewhat interesting (cheek bandages and tentacles, and i've just started reading your threads ); so i must be content with being a simple uploader :sigh:

anyway, thanks for clarifying your thoughts on the post/regdate/rep system

This is almost impossible to enforce because many of the top uploaders insist on advertising their websites, forums, etc. and to tell them not to would be to lose their patronage. But again, I don't think it has anything to do with seniority, really.

aha! so there's an unwritten rule which gives some privileges to major uploaders, huh?
nothing against it, but really... dunno, i'm quite disappointed :defeat:

edit: there is still this guy who keeps thanking himself just to bump his threads, and it's newer than me, so at least it's really not a matter of seniority

 

[guy]

You can load your links into a container, such as a .DLC (for compatability with clients like jDownloader). It's not entirely foolproof and other people can still copy off of your work, but as more people begin to use filehost managers like jDownloader, they will begin to prefer using .DLC over copying individual links one-by-one.

If you are serious about your uploading and members recognize the quality of your work, you may also consider posting your shares all in one thread. That way people will gradually know to check only your thread for major releases and to skip other reposts (except if they need a different mirror, etc). Plus the mods here may be more forthcoming in letting you control your thread, and you may even get it stickied if its a particularly good resource.

 

[redrooster]

aha! so there's an unwritten rule which gives some privileges to major uploaders, huh?

I already told you: there is none / no privilege.

 

[Sakunyuusha]

I wouldn't say there is an unwritten rule. I would say that the moderators do not feel it is prudent to chastise major contributors for breaking the rules versus chastising minor or non-contributors. Consider the potential gains and losses. If the major contributor respects the mod, that's one less rulebreaker. If the minor contributor respects the mod, ditto. Same reward. Now, if the minor contributor disrespects the mod and leaves the site forever, the loss to the community is minimal. But if the major contributor disrespects the mod and leaves, the blow can potentially affect thousands of visitors and hundreds of registered members.

Before you get disappointed again and think that Akiba-Online puts prudency before ethics, I'd like to point out that the site is understaffed relative to the rule violations; or rather, the rule violations are nigh-on infinite, and it's impossible to ever address them all. If it were possible to address all rule violations, then you could fairly judge. But since it is not possible, you can only speculate as to how the captain of this vessel runs his ship. Personally? I think if he had the ability to catch all rulebreaking and to rectify it, he would do so. But because he doesn't, it makes sense to go after the non-contributing rulebreakers before going after the contributing ones.

redrooster: ehh, I disagree. I can think of one very good example. PM me if you want the details. For now I'll say this: he's somebody who has contributed a heck of a lot, who has very high rep, who is keeping one region of the board alive, but who does fit Desu's description of a rulebreaker: he advertises his private webforum all the time in his posts and signature. If this is against the rules (???), then he's clearly one example of a privileged member.

 

[Desu]

You can load your links into a container, such as a .DLC (for compatability with clients like jDownloader). It's not entirely foolproof and other people can still copy off of your work, but as more people begin to use filehost managers like jDownloader, they will begin to prefer using .DLC over copying individual links one-by-one.

If you are serious about your uploading and members recognize the quality of your work, you may also consider posting your shares all in one thread. That way people will gradually know to check only your thread for major releases and to skip other reposts (except if they need a different mirror, etc). Plus the mods here may be more forthcoming in letting you control your thread, and you may even get it stickied if its a particularly good resource.

thanks for replying; it seems like i gathered some of the major posters in this thread; i feel quite honoured

to the point: i don't really care if/when/why my links are mirrored/copied, what bothers me is why people are allowed to do it AND to post them in a thread started by me, just below the links i posted, halving both downloads and reputations gain... just because they feel like doing it

I already told you: there is none / no privilege.

aye, i heard you, and i said i don't care too much about this matter, but what you say and what i see on the forum don't coincide.

i could give you many examples, but i'm sure you're already aware of those users; and since there are no privileges, how should i call those? maybe "exceptions"?

really, it's not my wish to give you troubles nor headaches, but you warned me for breaking a rule (more than deserved, i must say), then you said there are no priv. but just browsing the first page of the DDL Jav will bring up so many infractions to create work for 1000 mods.

if it is like Sakunyuusha said, and you don't want to lose those uploaders, that's fine, but you should admit it; if that's not the case, i'd like to find some good explanation

(my problem with hijack stands still :defeat

 

[daice]

Well, I do understand your point about point stealing but I don't know if banning those who do this is the best option.
First there's the fact that most uploaders choose either RS or MU as their main and only host so hardly ever people bother requesting because even when they do, they already think that there are low chances of the request being granted.
Second because I would see this as a way to say that not all sharing is valid. Sure you can say that what the person is doing is not sharing but considering the first fact I would still say that it is because he/she is using his/her bandwidth to download and upload, the same way you did. The main difference is that you, as the original uploader, had to find the video elsewhere first. Sometime this can be a hard job, sometimes this can be a piece of cake.

If you're only concerned about earning points than I suggest you to upload on MU AND on RS and share both links.
If what pisses you off is link stealing than use Mediafire. MF has no download limit for free users so people hardly ever ask for a mirror on this case.
If you can't stand the idea of sharing for nothing in exchange (because MF does not have a point program AFAIK) than stick with uploading on MU, RS and other hosts that pay you for sharing (easy-share? upload? hotfile? depositfiles? Lots of options for you to make people wait 500 seconds for each download while you earn something).

When I share on the DDL section I normally use both MU and DF, make the links interchangeable and never had problems with people mirroring those links. And still my files dies because people don't download frequently enough. Why? Because the JAV DDL section moves too fast to people see my threads and if people were to create a new thread for every single mirroring than it would be even worse though I don't know if there are so many people doing this because besides never having being mirrored I almost never check other's threads on that section so I wouldn't know.

Suggestion I can give you beside sharing both RS and MU links would be inform in big, BIG AND BRIGHT LETTERS at the top of each of your threads that you'll provide mirrors upon request.

 

[Desu]

thanks for replying daice


we're going in the wrong direction, yet i stated my point more than once (my english is bad, but is it really SO bad? :defeat

it's not about points, even if they're indeed needed for anybody who's uploading stuff on a regular basis; if all i wanted was some kind of reward i'd go with the paying hosts only, don't you think?

it's not about stealing links: once a file is downloaded/copied, the person who did it can do whatever he likes with it.... i don't care about that!
i take them from torrents or blogs or chinese sites, another guy takes mine and post them here or on another forum; in that forum the process repeats; this is how things work on the net, i'm not asking for a revolution.

what is really wrong, is when somebody mirror my links and post them in the same thread, because it defeat the entire purpose of the thread itself.
look at this for an example:

http://www.akiba-online.com/forum/showthread.php?p=312699#post312699


now, WHY is he doing it?

and WHY most people fail to understand this simple forum logic: I open the thread, I post MY links?

if somebody copy those links, HE opens a new thread, HE post his links

again, this is not an invention of mine, it's how netiquette is applied to uploaders in the whole net;
i feel a little dazed having to fight for this in a forum so big uzzled:

 

[daice]

I see this as taking a ride.
If two persons are going to the exact same place why both should go each one if their own car?
Unless they live completely apart and one's route to the destination doesn't crosses the other house I don't see why they should each use a different car.

This may not be the best example but I think you get my idea.
It is about not flooding the board. Why two people should create two different threads containing the same content? Unless they're created a few months/years apart I fail to see the purpose besides flooding.
My threads, my links? I don't know, this sounds so selfish for me.

Let's suppose I decided to mirror every movie you share within minutes of your post. If you share 10 movies a day in 10 threads than I would do the same and the first page would be filled with 20 threads but only 10 different movies.

Again this may not be completely consistent with reality since some sections move fast but still I think it's possible to get my point here right?
Besides, how would you feel if I waited for you to create your threads first and only after that I created mine? Yours would fall down while mines would be on top, maybe yours would fall to the second page while mines would stay on the first grabbing more attention.

If you really don't want people posting their links on your threads than my suggestions are still the same, post more mirrors yourself (the most commons on other threads such as RS and MU) or inform that you'll provide mirrors only upon requests or use Mediafire that people hardly ever requests mirrors (unless MF changed something) because there's really no need for doing so with this host. (well, using MF may not prevent from people posting their links because point crawlers won't care in this case but they probably know it's pretty useless in this case)

 

[Desu]

i think i bothered you all too much, so after another couple of suggestions by another moderator (is the rest of them as good as those two or was i lucky with whom i encountered?), i won't insist anymore

things won't probably change, so i have to change my attitude in uploading; too bad for the downloaders and better for me.

@daice: i got what you meant, and it's good thinking, but i have to comment on something

I see this as taking a ride.
If two persons are going to the exact same place why both should go each one if their own car?

then who will use his own car? and who will provide the gasoline?
you're also assuming that both people have a car... (i hope you too get what i mean)

My threads, my links? I don't know, this sounds so selfish for me.

then let me be even more selfish; why people spend their time uploading things?
to earn something off the hosts' reward programs?
to rank high in forums' hierarchy?
to receive reputation and gain popularity on the net?
to make people happy with their stuff?

whichever you choose, it's always a matter of popularity (of the uploader) and content (new or good stuff); downloaders are a consequence

whichever I choose, i won't get any, because of hijacking

whichever you choose, if you deprive the uploader of his reason to upload (being it material or virtual), why should he continue doing it?

this is why i said those people are what kills good uploaders and are banned ASAP on many boards.

as SEO teaches, content is king, and uploaders can provide it, while mirrorers can only.... mirror
no new content, no mirrors.


i have nothing more to add;
thank you all for your comments; they have been really appreciated :bow-pray:

 

[daice]

I feel like I need to give an answer so you don't need to reply but feel free to do so, it's always good to have a discussion with people with different points of view.

then who will use his own car? and who will provide the gasoline?
you're also assuming that both people have a car... (i hope you too get what i mean)

Like I said, the car example is not the best but I didn't tell the reasons.
First because it's a comparison of a non-virtual activity with a virtual activity and by default I think it makes comparing much more difficult.
In a "normal" situation, if you're taking or giving a ride to the same person always than you would make a deal like if both have cars they could swap every day or something like that and if only one have a car one could charge half of the gas price.
There's also the fact that people can post on your thread as they wish and this would be compared as people being able to ride your car as they wish with or without your consent, fact that, I believe, is not true.

then let me be even more selfish; why people spend their time uploading things?
to earn something off the hosts' reward programs?
to rank high in forums' hierarchy?
to receive reputation and gain popularity on the net?
to make people happy with their stuff?

whichever you choose, it's always a matter of popularity (of the uploader) and content (new or good stuff); downloaders are a consequence

Well, people upload because either they want to be recognized as the first person to provide a new item or as the one who can provide rare items. Some wants to simply share because they want, because they feel good by thinking they're making people happy.
Some only wants to get rewarded either by the host reward program or even inside a community like A-O (they want high ratings, etc).
In the end I think you could reduce to three reasons:
1-become popular
2-feel happy with yourself because you're making people happy
3-earn something from the host

Downloaders are a consequence? Maybe. People download because there are uploaders or there are uploaders because people wants to download? When it began I bet there were downloaders because people uploaded but now is still this way? I really can't say for sure.

whichever I choose, i won't get any, because of hijacking

whichever you choose, if you deprive the uploader of his reason to upload (being it material or virtual), why should he continue doing it?

this is why i said those people are what kills good uploaders and are banned ASAP on many boards.

If your choice is to be recognized you'll still be, even with hijackers, because people know who uploaded first and they know that the first supposedly did the "hard work". Some may thank the hijacker because in their eyes those are providing another source of download that the original uploader didn't and probably wouldn't even upon request (that looks like the case with many here).
If your choice is to feel happy with the though of making people happy by giving them a chance to download something they want than you won't be affected (or shouldn't) by hijackers because this just shows that people are really downloading and this was your primal objective.
Only if your choice was to get rewarded by the host that you'll be affected by hijackers but will get no clicks on your links because of hijackers? Don't be so extreme. Just see if the archives that you uploaded and were hijacked aren't as dead as the ones you uploaded on the same period of time and weren't hijacked. Even though I did provide the same files on RS, DF and MU I can't tell if one is affecting the other because I never compared but still I think it's hard to believe that your MU links wouldn't be downloaded because someone reposted them on RS. If this actually happened than you should fight against people reuploading the same files because it would make no difference if the hijacker posts the links on a new thread or not. You may say about uploaders having fame and attracting more people but suppose you post a movie Y on MU. Than I download it and post the same movie on RS and create a new thread. If someone wants to download that movie what do you think this person will do? Will choose his/her host of preference or will choose his/her favorite uploader? And do you think this person would bother to see who posted first? Do you think this person would even bother to try to find out if there was a link hijacking?
For the one who's downloading what matters is how fast this will happen and the host makes a difference here, not the uploader.

If someone only uploads on MU this person won't be loved by the ones who only download through RS.

My point here is, if you're worried about your links not getting enough hits than you shouldn't be fighting against people posting their links on your thread but people simply reuploading the same content you are because this is what really affects the click-rate in your links and not where those links are posted.


Note that this is my, and mine only, point of view and not the view of the entire community. The posts I made here does not represent what everyone here thinks specially because I wouldn't know what they think as most don't even post here.

 

[desioner]

One thing that wasn't pointed out was that both MU & RS are pay per use services. A MU user might not have an RS account & uses of each prefer each service for their own reasons. I'm probably not going to DL a MU link if I have an RS membership, Depending on the file(s) & vice versa. Personally I don't do DDL, I'm a torrent guy. But I understand why people use and offer them. As they are different services I see no problem with what he or any other user does. There is no guarantee that your links won't get downloaded because of their mirrors. In fact I'll be posting a poll on the different services that people use for DDL and we'll get a better feel for what the users are after.
I'm glad that you thought to change your perspective on the uploading process because that's the best that you can do. The only way you could avoid the initial issue you have is to upload them both to MU & RS. A pain in the ass, Yes. Resolved problem, possibly. There are other way's to hijack a thread.
desioner

 

[Desu]

i'm in a hurry, so i'll read these posts and i'll reply when i'll be back from work; nevertheless, i must quote this

Downloaders are a consequence? Maybe. People download because there are uploaders or there are uploaders because people wants to download? When it began I bet there were downloaders because people uploaded but now is still this way? I really can't say for sure.

because it's probably one of the most intelligent thought i've read in forum in a long time

 

[Desu]

alright, for those who care, i gave it some serious thought and i came to the conclusion that it's a too subjective matter.

i'm probably too used to some archaic written and unwritten rules, by which nobody should mess with the uploaders, because they bring the fuel needed by a forum to stay alive.

as today this could not be the case anymore, since there are so many sources available on the net that the true uploaders are almost relics from the past....

uhm, a little too extreme perhaps, but not so far from the truth if by "uploader" you mean somebody who actually downloads something and then reupload it on his own (i'm talking of DDL of course).

this may be intrinsic in the whole DDL structure, since there must be a person who provide the stuff at first, and takes all the merits, but as mirrors and reuploads come by, said merits have to be reparted with the new providers, leaving the starter with what he earned off being the first
(just think about torrents posted on chinese bbs, then posted in western forums, then uploaded and posted in various blogs, and at last mirrored and posted in DDL forums...)

my poor mastery of the english language doesn't allow me to go deeper on this subject, but it could become a really interesting discussion, thanks to what daice, desioner, Sakunyuusha, redrooster and kbryc08 have brought in.

 

[wheeljack]

EDIT: just to explain why i'm causing all this drama;
i'm paying a seedbox - a good seedbox, not the $3/month - to download torrents as soon as they're released; i'm paying a vps where i copy the files from the seedbox

... then somebody pick the links, remote upload them, and post those links in my thread, earning points off my work (yeah, it's p2p, but still...), exposing my original uploads to the risk of deletion (if not downloaded)

IMHO in a forum like this, admins and mods should be GODS, and good uploaders should be something like SAINTS (just for comparison), because they're work is what keep attracting new users
and i'm not talking about who copypaste the ralume, jav4u etc stuff; that's easy to do, but it will lead to nowhere, because mirroring files is a joke, even a 10 y/o kid could do it; what counts is new content, which isn't something all the so-called uploaders can provide

That guy post his links in your thread, making you earn less MU points/rewards or $$. Just say it straight out, don't go round the bush - seedbox, earning points off my work, exposing my original uploads to the risk of deletion.

I got a thread here too. I sincerely welcome you to post RS, MU, hotfile, depositfiles, filefactory or whatever filehosting after I uploaded my links.
I use Rapidshare, you are even welcome to post your RS link on top of mine. You and All are welcome to earn points and $$ off my work. I really don't care.

and my point to you is stop being a petty boy/girl...


new content, which isn't something all the so-called uploaders can provide?
- unless you buy those movies and rip them online. stop thinking it's not easy finding/downloading/uploading. It's so easy, I don't know Japanese, my Chinese is not good, just by google keywords search, I can find almost every JAV porn posted by chinese websites online. It is straightforward, nothing great.

 

[Desu]

That guy post his links in your thread, making you earn less MU points/rewards or $$. Just say it straight out, don't go round the bush - seedbox, earning points off my work, exposing my original uploads to the risk of deletion.

while i need to improve my english, you sure need to learn 2 read: i almost yelled it out more than once that he was "stealing" points i should have earned, so whatever...
i've also said that i wrote all of those just to explain why i was angy.

I got a thread here too. I sincerely welcome you to post RS, MU, hotfile, depositfiles, filefactory or whatever filehosting after I uploaded my links.
I use Rapidshare, you are even welcome to post your RS link on top of mine. You and All are welcome to earn points and $$ off my work. I really don't care.

ok, that's YOUR choice; you're a kind guy and deserve to win the lotto.

and my point to you is stop being a petty boy/girl...

i'll try, thanks for the suggestion.

new content, which isn't something all the so-called uploaders can provide?
- unless you buy those movies and rip them online. stop thinking it's not easy finding/downloading/uploading. It's so easy, I don't know Japanese, my Chinese is not good, just by google keywords search, I can find almost every JAV porn posted by chinese websites online. It is straightforward, nothing great.

there is so much BS in these sentences i can't even quantify it; but you can prove me wrong: try googling or whatsoever these movies
AVGL-103
AVGL-107
AVGL-108
AVGL-112
AVGL-120
AVGL-125
AVGL-126
AVGL-133
AVGL-143
AVGL-145
AVGL-146
AVGL-147
AVGL-150
AVGL-152

if you can find them i'll gladly praise you; otherwise, i'm sorry, but you failed big time, talking about something you don't know.

and that's my point to you.

 

[zappy77]

maybe I am a little stupid but here goes

what if that poster got the file same time as you and uploaded to HIS MU account AND RS account but YOU beat him to it posting yours with the MU account so he posted with his RS account in your thread would that smooth it away ?

and what does it matter really you have a job this surely cannot be your only source of income and who cares if it is lol not me, find a better source of income

us non important downloaders want porn and don't give a shit who uploads it nor where as long as we get it

wish i hadn't read this thread now but hijackers looked interesting.....