Annoying watermarks

illwill

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I don't know if this is the right thread for this but recently I've noticed a lot more watermarks or whatever they are called with advertising for a site featuring more prominently on many Jav vids.

They yellow one with the numbered website and Chinese text is particularly annoying because it takes up a good amount of the screen and is visible throughout the whole movie.

Anyone know if it's possible to do anything about this, possibly know in advance which vids they appear on or help find alternative rips without these watermarks?
 

kharo88

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possibly know in advance which vids they appear on

You can always check the screenshots before you download a film, at least on JavLibrary, some guys will always post them along with the DL links.
 

Inertia

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"Anyone know if it's possible to do anything about this, possibly know in advance which vids they appear on or help find alternative rips without these watermarks?"

Yes, but anytime I give the answer it rustles the jimmies of many forum members here.
 
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Casshern2

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Haha! Good one, @Inertia !

Yes, always check the watermarks. You can also request in the request threads (here: https://www.akiba-online.com/forums/jav-idol-requests.120/) to see if anyone has a non-watermarked version of something you're after. But, be prepared to be disappointed in many cases, but it could be worth it if you find even one, right?

Anyway, for a lot more information and major discussion you should read through here: https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/watermarks-you-hate.1297066/
 
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Electromog

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Is it just me or do they mostly skip lesbian movies when watermarking stuff? Quite often I am happy to see a movie without watermarks only to find out it is a lesbian movie which I don't like.
Maybe the yellow watermark guy doesn't like lesbian movies either?
 
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theydonotwantto

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There are a few original uploader, most links you get are provided by re-uploader.

In a few case, a film might be uploaded by some original uploader, then we get different watermark. But you have to wait. China usually fastest. I don't know Chinese, I can't find the original place of those film.
 

Casshern2

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I don't believe there is an "original place". As has been discussed in the thread I mentioned above, most if not all are coming from guys that rip directly from copies at the pressing plants (more than likely) so the only source coming out would be their watermarked ones. And I'm talking about the zero-day releases that come out en masse.
 

ding73ding

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China usually fastest. I don't know Chinese, I can't find the original place of those film.

I know Chinese, and I can tell you that neither China nor Taiwan has any better, watermark-free "original" place. Unlike Hollywood and anime, there isn't a "scene" of release groups or even subber, or scanlation groups for manga. There are a number of legit streaming sites (DMM, R18, Caribbean etc), a lot of gray or black streaming/download sites but no free and watermark-free groups competing for fame and self-satisfaction.

There's the "Yellow ripper" that you mention, and a "Casino ripper" who prefix the film with a minute-or-longer ad (actually nowadays that ad is yet-another live-sex show site, not a casino site, but I still prefer to call that group Casino ripper). And sometimes you come across ISO releases (seem to have dried out last couple weeks) and depends on luck a HD/FHD release that's truly clean.

There are a few well-known repackagers, such as 3xplanet, but I don't think they do anything exact bundle a lot of garbage files into the torrent.

That's about it, my samples are pretty biased by my taste, but I estimate Yellow ripper makes about 55% of releases, Casino ripper about 45% and others (ISO, FHD) 15% (yes total is over 100% due to duplicates). Sadly duplicate isn't higher.

Yes, @Inertia is right, (and I don't remember ever witnessing the allegedly rustled jimmies) if you are not happy with watermark, go buy a legit copy, which I have done. Better yet, buy it and release a watermark-free copy (which I have not done), that would put pressure on the worst of watermarkers. (actually I doubt it...) It seems the only groups/individuals who have the money and/or access to first day releases (or even first month release) don't include anyone willing to contribute without compensation. (sounds familiar?) Basically you have one kind of leechers complaining about another kind of leechers.
 

Fisheraaa

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There are watermark free movies at closed private trackers. M-Team, 18p2p, cinderella.
 

theydonotwantto

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But why do they need to watermark? They release movie for free.

Almost every Hollywood movie on the internet are watermark free.
 

Fisheraaa

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They get paid for using the watermarks ... You know, advertising and stuff ^^

Or even if they have watermarks of their own website, they still have adds on that site so ...
 

Electromog

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There are watermark free movies at closed private trackers. M-Team, 18p2p, cinderella.
That's nice if you manage to get in, but not so much for the rest of us. The closed trackers usually don't seem to take new members.
 

Fisheraaa

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You can join any of those ... aldo it's not easy. I'd suggest /r/trackers as a starting point, if you wish to learn more.