AV OPEN 2017

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Physical releases of AVOP titles are apparently out. So where are the digital copies ?
 

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AV Open films have started to come out, if anyone has downloaded anything how are they so far?
 

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Many Japanese sites has been wondering if there will be a AV Open in 2019. Mainly due to the big production houses losing interest in the format.
I say 2019, because I have no doubt there will be a event in 2018.
 
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AVOP-312 All nude camping (?)
starring three relative unknowns 松井レナ 桜ここね 関根奈美 (will edit this post to complete the info when I have time, just making real quick review)

Note this Rena Matsui 松井レナ is not the Rena Matsui 松井玲奈 of the SKE48 fame. But the imitation is deliberate as the agency promotes her as a doppelganger for the jpop idol.

Not a great sex vid as many scenes were shot with shaky hand-held cams with suboptimal lighting and angles. The sex scenes inside the tents were rather clamped and uncomfortable.

But after a long period of virtual ban on outdoor porn, this vid compensates by having a lot out sunny outdoor nudity and (some) sex. The opening was promising as the producers have the girls strip totally naked before allowing them to step off the bus. Very refreshing. The girls were accommodating but just little bit shy enough to excite the viewers. The one single daytime outdoor sex (not even an orgy) isn't quite enough to hit the spot, I wish there's a lot more. But it seems the studio is still rather afraid of the law enforcement. So most of the sex happens in the tent, car or under the cover of darkness.

One thing is, urban Japanese just don't understand the idea of nudity camping and embracing nature etc. The setting is outdoor, with a beach and tent and BBQ, but the girls and guys were hardly doing anything like camping, the food and accommodation were all set up for them by unseen "room service", and even the camp fire were started by PD off camera. It would be much more fun to watch them do proper camping chores in the nude and swimming and playing balls and other camping activities. (they did manage bring out some sparklers as obligatory Japanese summer "fun"). The guys should have attempt starting a fire, and whoever managed it will get an oral service by the girls, say.

The sex were all a bit sneaky and clamped, but not quite brave enough to be truly exhibitionist outdoor nudity and sex. That's one angle to do these kind of porn, just running and ducking and sneaking opportunities to be dangerous, risking exposure shame, and arrest.

The other angle to this vid would be fully embrace naturalism, (if they managed to find an open location without fear of police). Just throw all worries to the air, and be naked and fucking anywhere and anytime. As if they had went to Garden of Eden.

But as it is, it's not quite either, far from it. But anyway, it's outdoor sex, I've been starved of it for too long. So thank you.

One final complaint, for some worrisome reason, Thz.la hasn't released any AVOP vids yet. So I got this SD ISO. The studio chose to compress 4 full hours of porn into a D5 format, BIG mistake. How much more money is a D9? 4 hours in 4.35GB with old MP2 technology, the vid is plain unwatchable, even considering it's SD.
 
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AVOP-357 Steel Witch Annerose vs. Taimanin Asagi ~ Two Great Heroines Humiliation
Yui Hatano, Ruka Kanae, Honoka Mihara

Well what can I say, I'm a sucker for ZIZG vids. Problem is I don't even like Taimanin that much. But if you want some live action hentai scifi/fantasy AV, you have basically two games in town, Giga or ZIZG. Giga is both hard to find and absolute bore (and erection defeating). So that leaves ZIZG.

But this long-awaited ZIZG continuation (never even mind that it's AVOP) turns out disappointing.

I have only scanned this vid up and down not even for 10 mins. So this review is more like an impression.

It starts with about 15 mins of talking scene. Well that's not totally fair, there was a forgettable 1 min sword fight in there. Look what's the difference between a hentai AV vs. cosplay AV? Cosplay is just sex while wearing costumes/make-up. Hentai means recreating some of the actions and dialogs from the source manga or game. So I really care that there's some non-sex scenes, in this case, scifi/fantasy scenes especially with cheap special effects or CGI. Some minimally non-terrible fight scene is also mandatory. But this vid is pretty underwhelming in the scifi department. Yeah there's an elf in vinyl (spoiler alert, she will be fucked in vinyl too), but meh...

The rest of the 140 min vid is seems like one mega sex scene. And it's not so my cup of sex tea. Mostly it's torture/humiliation r***, not my top choice of fapping aid. The three idols are all pretty well established and hot and all... but the focus is a bit on the vinyl costume (and the elf ears) so there isn't a satisfying ratio of nudity to sex. Actually I don't think anyone got more than 60% naked in this whole vid. But vinyl fans would love it.

The vid ends with a MV, yes music video. The three stars try their best to be some j-pop. Well it's not epic fail. Fair to say it adds production value points but still not quite enough to rescue the vid.
 
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Not going to talk about the contents here, just the technical spec of the disc and video itself.

The copyright protection is still there, I can't get this to play natively on my PC using VLC, let alone rip or do an ISO of it without booting up Passkey. Why don't those rips groups go about cracking the disc ? My take is that there is no glory and fame in that.

Disc size is 7.27 gig, I know there's a 4.4 gig ISO there, I believe that is a fake done by using capture and converted to an ISO file.

Video files was created on June 7th, so the filming was perhaps done in around May or so. Same 3-4 months of post production, but it gives us an insight of how long they go about mosaic-ing the video and time to press the disc.
 

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t starts with about 15 mins of talking scene. Well that's not totally fair, there was a forgettable 1 min sword fight in there. Look what's the difference between a hentai AV vs. cosplay AV? Cosplay is just sex while wearing costumes/make-up. Hentai means recreating some of the actions and dialogs from the source manga or game. So I really care that there's some non-sex scenes, in this case, scifi/fantasy scenes especially with cheap special effects or CGI. Some minimally non-terrible fight scene is also mandatory. But this vid is pretty underwhelming in the scifi department. Yeah there's an elf in vinyl (spoiler alert, she will be fucked in vinyl too), but meh...

The rest of the 140 min vid is seems like one mega sex scene. And it's not so my cup of sex tea. Mostly it's torture/humiliation r***, not my top choice of fapping aid. The three idols are all pretty well established and hot and all... but the focus is a bit on the vinyl costume (and the elf ears) so there isn't a satisfying ratio of nudity to sex. Actually I don't think anyone got more than 60% naked in this whole vid. But vinyl fans would love it.

The vid ends with a MV, yes music video. The three stars try their best to be some j-pop. Well it's not epic fail. Fair to say it adds production value points but still not quite enough to rescue the vid.

hentai are not all based on manga/game. These are called doujinshi. Most hentai are a standalone mange with sex.
 

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Not going to talk about the contents here, just the technical spec of the disc and video itself.

The copyright protection is still there, I can't get this to play natively on my PC using VLC, let alone rip or do an ISO of it without booting up Passkey. Why don't those rips groups go about cracking the disc ? My take is that there is no glory and fame in that.

Disc size is 7.27 gig, I know there's a 4.4 gig ISO there, I believe that is a fake done by using capture and converted to an ISO file.

Video files was created on June 7th, so the filming was perhaps done in around May or so. Same 3-4 months of post production, but it gives us an insight of how long they go about mosaic-ing the video and time to press the disc.
Nice! So, DVDShrink doesn't work? Or MakeMKV? You have no way to make an ISO file from it yet?
 

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Nice! So, DVDShrink doesn't work? Or MakeMKV? You have no way to make an ISO file from it yet?

Quite. At least not from any freeware ripping tools. Perhaps that is why we have not seen any true ISOs and real rips for the past few years of late.

Those rip groups are just too cheap to shell out for anything proper and as I said, no fame and glory from cracking the physical copyright protection. At least in the game warez scene, there's bragging right from being the first to break Denuvo since it was stated outright to be invulnerable.
 
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Casshern2

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Quite. At least not from any freeware ripping tools. Perhaps that is why we have not seen any true ISOs and real rips for the past few years of late.

Those rip groups are just too cheap to shell out for anything proper and as I said, no fame and glory from cracking the physical copyright protection. At least in the game warez scene, there's bragging right from being the first to break Denuvo since it was stated outright to be invulnerable.
Well, if you get desperate, you can change the region of your DVD drive, but you only have so many times before it stays on the last one you did. Hmmm...I wonder if you can change it on an external drive?

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Well, if you get desperate, you can change the region of your DVD drive, but you only have so many times before it stays on the last one you did. Hmmm...I wonder if you can change it on an external drive?

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Hardware region change for physical drives is suppose to be passe now with bypass software like VLC and Passkey. But the copyright protection is a minor nuisance.

The main issue I believe, lies in those distro groups giving us passable video at best and people have no issues with that as everything is free.

What we need is a new startup willing to invest in real physical release, crack the protection and showing people how real rips are done like the old days.
 

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Hardware region change for physical drives is suppose to be passe now with bypass software like VLC and Passkey. But the copyright protection is a minor nuisance.

The main issue I believe, lies in those distro groups giving us passable video at best and people have no issues with that as everything is free.

What we need is a new startup willing to invest in real physical release, crack the protection and showing people how real rips are done like the old days.
These days people take what they can get, so long as it is free. :confused:
 

jwlim80

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These days people take what they can get, so long as it is free. :confused:

Who cares as long as they are happy with what they got. I certainly don't.

But know this, those pirated captured vid (not going to call them rip because they arn't) arn't the best version out there, not even the Thz FHD releases. For me I download the captured vid anyway, knowing the fact.
 

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Pls pls write a review. I am very curious why S1 is so confident with this girl. I just don't see what's so special.

Disc size is 7.27 gig, I know there's a 4.4 gig ISO there, I believe that is a fake done by using capture and converted to an ISO file.
Interesting, reminds me years ago you can find (in dark alleys) bootleg DVD (therefore ISO) which lacks DVD menu and has the infamous yellow watermark.

But regarding AVOP 312, the ISO I got looks like a straight decrypt & rip. The menu is intact and functional, there are chapters and titles with even the anti piracy clip and trailers.

it gives us an insight of how long they go about mosaic-ing the video and time to press the disc.
No, not this time. AVOP is a timed event, if S1 was saving this hot property for a good show even a sure win for AVOP they could be sitting on the finished product for some time. Perhaps Shoko megastar had clouded their judgement.
 

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Pls pls write a review. I am very curious why S1 is so confident with this girl. I just don't see what's so special.

At first glance, she is cute and in essence a living, walking anime character with her kansai accent, high pitch voice and demur. A more in depth watch is needed for a final judgement.


Interesting, reminds me years ago you can find (in dark alleys) bootleg DVD (therefore ISO) which lacks DVD menu and has the infamous yellow watermark.

But regarding AVOP 312, the ISO I got looks like a straight decrypt & rip. The menu is intact and functional, there are chapters and titles with even the anti piracy clip and trailers.

That so ? I have to grab it and compare what is missing. The video files on mine is essentially cut into 2 parts which makes all 7 gigs of it.


No, not this time. AVOP is a timed event, if S1 was saving this hot property for a good show even a sure win for AVOP they could be sitting on the finished product for some time. Perhaps Shoko megastar had clouded their judgement.

Fine. But it still gives us an idea of how much time goes into cutting the film, applying the mosiac and encoding everything. The files on my blu-rays is basically encode about 1-2 months before release, IIRC.
 
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