Yea my poor knowledge. I've never lived in Japan before. In fact, I can't even find it on a map. I must have such poor knowledge.
Should I bow down to you, the king of redundancy?
Should I bow down to you, the king of redundancy?
Becoming A Japanese Citizen
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well. Im not an US citizen, neither canadian, but f*ck, come on, to not READ and SEARCH for japanese culture and being interested in living there is.... dumb. I was interested on living there a long time ago, I was a kid, so I had to use internet and text book on japanese culture; I figured out my personal lifestyle isnt comatible with this culture, so f*ck it, stick to anime, hentai, heck even JAV, maybe even visit for a month? But linving on Japan for me is a big ass HECK NO!
oh and I read most your points, and where.... enlighting.
thank you all for placing their ponts of veiw, specially aquaman! Dude your an asshole, but they do deserve it.
PD: Im sorry if I wrote this in a wierd way. English IS my second language.
oh and I read most your points, and where.... enlighting.
thank you all for placing their ponts of veiw, specially aquaman! Dude your an asshole, but they do deserve it.
PD: Im sorry if I wrote this in a wierd way. English IS my second language.
Holy christ this is a long thread that went un noticed by me. Yes, it is extremely hard.
I happen to know of one person who married a Japanese girl and wanted to get that VISA where you don't have to renew it (sorry for my ignorance of not knowing the name, I didn't read 11 pages) and you will never become a CITIZEN because Japan doesn't issue dual citizenships to my knowledge. But they interviewed his wife, his wife's parents, his employer, his co-workers, criminal checks, validity of marriage...a whole shit load of things JUST so he could leave Japan and come back without having to do all that VISA shit that is typically required. As for a college degree? I doubt that is worth anything at all, everywhere requires a bachelors at the least if not a masters.
Bored and not bothering to adjust the Toronto time because I'm going back to Van soon I will add a bit (which explains why I'm awake at 1:00AM on x-mas day).
You cannot go by what people say on how you will be judged. Let me give you a few examples. I understand Korea is still very different (possibly worse) than Japan, but it's still a foreign country.
The reason you should visit the country is because you have a genuine interest in the culture, that will help you adjust the most. I've lived with Korean room mates, had many Korean friends and Korean girlfriends before visiting Korea. To be honest, it sounds stupid, but out of all the students who got the scholarship, I was the one with the least amount (almost zero) culture shock.
As for how people will treat you? First off, Koreans typically don't like Americans. Blame the army but stereotypes are rampart in every country as shown by your ignorance saying Africa is a shit hole. I actually put forth the effort while there and before coming there to learn the language to the best of my ability, therefore I was treated much nicer than the typical American who didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
People will view you to an extent based on your nationality, the rest will be done by your personality and how genuine you are. If you do not have an interest in their culture and just wanna fuck random girls they will see right through you and treat you like the shit you'd deserve to be treated as. Everyone will give you different views depending on why they went to visit.
I happen to know of one person who married a Japanese girl and wanted to get that VISA where you don't have to renew it (sorry for my ignorance of not knowing the name, I didn't read 11 pages) and you will never become a CITIZEN because Japan doesn't issue dual citizenships to my knowledge. But they interviewed his wife, his wife's parents, his employer, his co-workers, criminal checks, validity of marriage...a whole shit load of things JUST so he could leave Japan and come back without having to do all that VISA shit that is typically required. As for a college degree? I doubt that is worth anything at all, everywhere requires a bachelors at the least if not a masters.
Bored and not bothering to adjust the Toronto time because I'm going back to Van soon I will add a bit (which explains why I'm awake at 1:00AM on x-mas day).
You cannot go by what people say on how you will be judged. Let me give you a few examples. I understand Korea is still very different (possibly worse) than Japan, but it's still a foreign country.
The reason you should visit the country is because you have a genuine interest in the culture, that will help you adjust the most. I've lived with Korean room mates, had many Korean friends and Korean girlfriends before visiting Korea. To be honest, it sounds stupid, but out of all the students who got the scholarship, I was the one with the least amount (almost zero) culture shock.
As for how people will treat you? First off, Koreans typically don't like Americans. Blame the army but stereotypes are rampart in every country as shown by your ignorance saying Africa is a shit hole. I actually put forth the effort while there and before coming there to learn the language to the best of my ability, therefore I was treated much nicer than the typical American who didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
People will view you to an extent based on your nationality, the rest will be done by your personality and how genuine you are. If you do not have an interest in their culture and just wanna fuck random girls they will see right through you and treat you like the shit you'd deserve to be treated as. Everyone will give you different views depending on why they went to visit.
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
someone is gonna get fucked in the ass hard if he ever decides to live in Japan.
Aquamarine is 100% right on...
Seriously guys, all those who have aspirations of giving up their respective citizenships and becoming Japanese, especially having never set foot there, or only taken a week or two trip, get your heads out of your asses. Japan is a country 100% for Japanese people. Most of them couldn't give a rats ass about you, mostly from the fact that they are a xenophobic people. I also spent the better part of this decade in Japan, so I'm not talking out of my ass...seriously. Japan is a great country to visit, not to live in.
Seriously guys, all those who have aspirations of giving up their respective citizenships and becoming Japanese, especially having never set foot there, or only taken a week or two trip, get your heads out of your asses. Japan is a country 100% for Japanese people. Most of them couldn't give a rats ass about you, mostly from the fact that they are a xenophobic people. I also spent the better part of this decade in Japan, so I'm not talking out of my ass...seriously. Japan is a great country to visit, not to live in.
I'm going to move to Japan and become a Japanese citizen. Does anyone know if over there I can rent a mom and basement really cheap?
Obvious snobbery is obvious.
For the winner, like the loser, will not be long remembered; in days to come both will be forgotten. Like the loser, the winner too must die!
For the winner, like the loser, will not be long remembered; in days to come both will be forgotten. Like the loser, the winner too must die!
I dunno about the basement, but maybe staying at a Sakura House and finding Okusama Cafe might be the next closest thing.
In regards to Japanese citizenship, well, I'm probably echoing everyone else here when I say it's not worth it. Not even if I lived there. Hell, I'll marry a Japanese girl or live in Japan, but as long as her parents are still alive, I'm not doing both. You have no freakin' idea what kind of conflict will arise, and how much frustration comes from your spouse & in-laws taking each others' side be default just because they are related, not because they're actually right! It's not like other countries, where marrying a girl means you're dedicated to each other. I can't imagine the rude awakening American girls must get when they marry a Japanese guy and move in with the parents!
In over 14 years of marriage to a Japanese girl I've never had conflict with my in-laws or never had my wife side with her folks against me by default!
This even when, for extended periods, we've lived in their house in Japan and they've lived in mine overseas.
This even when, for extended periods, we've lived in their house in Japan and they've lived in mine overseas.
A bit unexpected, but I should have known my question could actually be properly answered on akiba-online.
Yes and she's smoking hot!! She has appeared in TV and magazine ads and she's even done a spread in Beppin School and a couple of other magazines!
She was not, however, the girl I was referring to that stayed with us recently and who is a CM actress and model.
She was not, however, the girl I was referring to that stayed with us recently and who is a CM actress and model.
Something tells me I stand a better chance of getting a liver even if I was a 96 year-old chronic alcoholic on a donor list in Bolivia... but still, if she's interested in hapa guys and wants to live in Hawaii...
That's not true at all. There are many cases where permanent residents have become citizens. Is it easy? No. Are there many reasons why it is not for most gaijin? Yes. Can it be done with skill and perseverance? Hell yeah.
OK 1) Don't forget the education visa and the permutations on those others. It's important to note that the work visa's are more specific to general groupings of professions.
2) Permanent residents can own property, let alone citizens.
There is a language requirement, actually, amongst a list of others, but it's the same as expected of the average high school graduate. But since it also requires reading and writing aptitude you are correct that speaking [alone] has dick-all to do with it. But that's stretching it.
Culturally speaking, yeah, there's no chance to blend in and be seen as a part of the Yamato-soul or other some such nonsense. But can it be legally done? It has and it will again, barring another Tokagawa-like isolation.
"Basically: Are you qualified for a job? Yes? Then you probably will get it if you are more qualified than the last guy."
Probably have to be much better if the guy is Japanese. I'll cop to their blatant racism. Since I am going as a Doctor of Dental Surgery, I'll not have to worry about it as much as others, but no huge CEO jobs without the trails blazed beforehand.
With a bachelors there have been a few jobs open traditionally, but I think language and culture knowledge, not to mention a willingness to always learn and be polite help more than a masters degree. But you must at least have that 4 year diploma if you want to stay employed and in Japan.
1) Accredited college degrees from the US are always acknowledged in Japan. And full degrees of accredited universities in Japan are acknowledged in the US. But credit hours may or may not be seen as valid. So if you think you want to transfer, get your associates, bachelors or masters before you move. But if you already have the schooling you need, your degree will work there.
I checked on this myself, in the case I want to finish grad school in Niigata. It would get me some immersion after all my language and cultural book learning.
2) You can always find work for a foriegn company that has offices in Japan. I've got one friend who is doing that through a large computer company.
3) Certain Japanese companies will sponsor you. But for that, you've got to network and specialize your skills. Best of luck.
While I agree that there are some very stupid otaku-types with even dumber reasons for going to Japan, there are some very noble, well reasoned and genuinely awesome reasons for doing so. I think it's a little disingenuous to lambaste someone because he's somewhere and has his sights on being somewhere else someday. As hard work foresight and perseverance, and you get growth.
And we're discussing this on a porn site. Are we not serious? Are we not men? (A: We are DEVO) But on to your points:
We all start somewhere dude. And most of us do rely on parents, to greater or lesser extent until we are into our twenties. Of course it's awesome that you could pay for your own tuition! But the costs are so ridiculous now that it's not an option for the vast majority. I'm up to my eyeballs in debt, and I'm fine with that.
So are people not supposed to travel until middle age? I'd be more worried about the idiots that have no wish to learn the language or culture, like many of the servicemen posted there and some of those English teachers. As they are the vast majority of those who screw up in Japan and make us look bad, we should worry about them. We shouldn't bother trying to discourage others from coming if they're willing to learn the culture.
Your facts were a collection of harsh opinions and also false presumptions about the naturalization process. Do everything right, and after you've been married to a Japanese person for 3 years and/or worked for the same employer for 10 years, you have reached the basic requirements to become a permanent resident. And that's all that most gaijin would ever need, and more than most need.
Again, many have higher goals. For example, I don't really care for most Anime, or Japanese pop culture. I agree with many of the core beliefs inherrent in the social contract of Japanese society. I'll even accept second class status to be able to give medical care to those that need it. I'm even giving up huge profits here in the states to accomplish that.
And even if this kid is the biggest J-dork in the world, that doesn't give you the responsibility to rip him down. One's goals are one's own. I don't disagree with everything you said here, but let us try to be constructive here.
Sorry to take umbrage for my first post! Be well all.