Bukkake or Gokkun or Both?

[hatsupaw]

As much as I enjoy an idol swallowing, my attraction to gokkun is primarily due to the fact that it guarantees an oral comeshot, not just a facial one. For as long as I've been able to think sexual thoughts my particular fetish has been the female mouth. It is not only beautiful aesthetically, but, including the tongue, the mouth is the only prehensile sex organ. So prehensile, that it is used for one of the most delicate and subtle of voluntary body movements, namely speech. Applying such dexterity to the pursuit of providing sexual stimulation and you get the kind of ecstacy otherwise achieved only by intoxicants or extreme sports. So an oral comeshot represents, for me, the most erotic part of a female juxtaposed with the height of male sexual pleasure, the ejaculation.

If I am watching bukkake, I find it interesting to consider the bone structure and musculature of the idol. I'm going somewhere with this. Like a fingerprint, each face is different, obviously. This means, after the drone has dumped his load, say, on the bridge of the nose, some idols will have lines and dimples, etc that lead the goo toward the corners of the mouth. Others (perhaps "luckier" depending on perspective) will have features that draw it away, perhaps down the cheek to the jawline.


Cocomi Naruse instructs a class on proper aiming procedure, in Idea Pocket's DIGITAL CHANNEL 84 (SUPD-084).


Cheeks are a no-no! (I agree, and would also tell them to stay away from the forehead and hairline! I guess a lot of guys like it, as I see it so much..)

 

[goldroger02]

My appreciation about this topic theme is that Gokkun is more like the art of swallowing than just a normal cumshot into a mouth. Girls appreciating the taste and quantity of semen inside their mouths.
It is really attractive seeing a woman getting aroused by the smell, texture, thickness of sperm. What do you guys think?

 

[birsha]

I love that this discussion actually exists.

For me my love of Gokkun involves a few things.

1. Getting a blow job to completion, i.e. she keeps going until I've completely finished orgasming is just incredible feeling.
2. Submissiveness
3. Humiliation

The first is obvious, it feels good in real life and so I like watching it in porn too. And in Gokkun movies you often get to see the girl go all the way.

The second and third items are sort of intertwined. If I were a girl I'd never let a guy cum in my mouth. And I sure as hell wouldn't swallow it after.

So watching a girl do it, and either pretend to enjoy it or actively hate but do it anyway because she's supposed to is a mental trip.

I mean seriously, cum doesn't taste very good (I've tried my own out of curiosity) and it smells pretty bad. But that a girl would be willing to debase herself and submissively open her mouth and show it to you filled with your cum and then swallow it is just so fucking hot.

The visual of it too watching it squirt into her mouth while she kneels before you with her mouth open. It just such a humiliating and submissive act and so visual in it's presentation. Even better if she thanks you for it. Like you did her a favor that let her swallow you.

I have trouble understanding why a guy wouldn't like Gokkun scenes.

 

[lordsuperjesus]

wow, this thread is back from the dead. thanks @goldroger02 for bumping it back up. you know folks, there are a lot of people in this forum and in the JAV discussion board that like gokkun but the thread with the most open discussion about it has 24 posts and died in like 3 days. odd. maybe people don't really what to dig down and talk about why they like it. i mean people will say that they are into Bukkake or Gokkun or Both and which vids are the best or they're faves, but i think people have a harder time talking about why they like it.

@hatsupaw i feel you on alot of what you said. the mouth and face are just so sexy. gokkun with it's focus on lips and the mouth is a god send for me. but what takes gokkun to the next level is the eye contact. that a woman would stare you in the eye with her mouth and lips full of your liquid pleasure and take the embodiment of your lust into herself all while keeping eye contact, it really gets me going. the look of the mouth and lips are super sexy, the way the tongue moves around the cum, that's all important but the look in the eyes, that's the key. some girls have a look of joy in they're eyes at the moment they swallow.

Sunohara Miki, (you see how she is looking the guy who's jizz she is taking in the face in this first pic? Sunohara Miki is one of the few cum swallowers in japan, the U.S or Germany to look at the guy as she gets the cum. she really is into it.)



Hoshikawa Maki



are all girls that swallow with happiness in they're eye's and a genuine smile on they're face.

some girls have a look of pain and shame in they're eye's when swallowing.

Arimoto Sayo,



Aine Fujiwara





are girls with this facial expression and look in they're eye's.

some girls have a look of lust and need in they're eye's.

like Murakami Ryouko,



Hoshino Akari,


and Ashida Tomoko




the eyes along with the facial expressions and mouth and lips all together really do it for me. i just love it when the girl stares deep into the camera. she knows we are watching her. it's very hard to fake your facial expression then and there with cum in your mouth. i love seeing have different girls react to that pressure.

any of you guys feel the seem way? i like the happy and lusty facial expression myself. what about you guys?

 

[goldroger02]

wow, this thread is back from the dead. thanks @goldroger02 for bumping it back up. you know folks, there are a lot of people in this forum and in the JAV discussion board that like gokkun but the thread with the most open discussion about it has 24 posts and died in like 3 days. odd. maybe people don't really what to dig down and talk about why they like it. i mean people will say that they are into Bukkake or Gokkun or Both and which vids are the best or they're faves, but i think people have a harder time talking about why they like it.

No prob @lordsuperjesus! As a recent "active" member in this forum, I thought that someone might share the same tastes than me. Unfortunately it seems that this "swallow cum" topic still is a kind of a taboo for many men and women BUT I think this is the most unique and complete forum that has threads with this Gokkun kind of topic. As you say «people have a harder time talking about why they like it» maybe it has to do with their culture, country laws and context.

(...)what's going on inside your head when you watch bukkake/gokkun? what draws you to it? and last do you find bukkake/gokkun to be a little gay? i'm not gay and it's all good if you are but it seems to be a gay thing to want to be a sissy gulping cum.

Nope, I totally don't think that bukkake/gokkun would make me a gay, not even a little. I'm 100% certain that at least one woman in this world has pleasure in watch this type of content, even if it is for trying to feel the same way (be in the same position) as the actress, but doesn't mean that she will do anything like it, ever. You are watching a filme - You identify yourself as the main protagonist - Doesn't mean that you are any close to being that character. Other perspective could be that I really like taking pleasure from watching gokkun because, for example, I would want that my hypothetical girlfriend would do this stuff just for me. I don't know if you can understand what my point is, sorry if my "engrish" is not so good.

The second and third items are sort of intertwined. If I were a girl I'd never let a guy cum in my mouth. And I sure as hell wouldn't swallow it after.

@birsha You can't really compare yourself to a girl, because you are not a girl. You are still thinking as a guy, your experiences, your culture are all already determined as you living being a guy.

I mean seriously, cum doesn't taste very good (I've tried my own out of curiosity) and it smells pretty bad.

If you don't appreciate or like the taste of semen, doesn't mean that others doesn't like. I tried also, and I share the same experience as yours. It was a long time ago, I wasn't a gokkun fan as I am now. Maybe because now I have more experience and information about this, I'll try to give it another shot, literally! As for the smell, its another history, I really love the smell of fresh and a few days saved sperm.

The visual of it too watching it squirt into her mouth while she kneels before you with her mouth open. It just such a humiliating and submissive act and so visual in it's presentation. Even better if she thanks you for it. Like you did her a favor that let her swallow you.

Totally agree with you!

Hoshino Akari

@lordsuperjesus what have you done? Akari Hoshino is my, yet favourite and "personal" gokkun actress, she means a lot to me. So beautiful, so slutty
Maybe someday I'll create a new topic in "Sperm!!" thread about her if the gokkun members desire.
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So folks, I shared some of my personal thinking's and experiences, what do you think about? Maybe now some other members/visitants will open their minds and hearts?

 

[pikuseru]

It is hot to see older women, who should be already married and started a family, eagerly opening their mouths for cum from lots of men and swallowing it all. Cute young faces are better for getting covered in cum (which often means cum in the mouth too). Older women being active (promiscuous) vs. younger women being passive (dominated). That's what I think of gokkun vs. bukkake.

The main problem with gokkun though is the lack of standards. It could be one shot or one hundred. It could be directly in mouth or from glass. And the lack of standards also extends to the girls: the girls doing gokkun generally aren't as pretty as the girls getting bukkaked (unless the gokkun also involves bukkake). Due to its nature, there is a higher standard of beauty for bukkake.

So the idea of gokkun is great, but the execution is not as great.

 

[hatsupaw]

@hatsupaw i feel you on alot of what you said. the mouth and face are just so sexy. gokkun with it's focus on lips and the mouth is a god send for me. but what takes gokkun to the next level is the eye contact. that a woman would stare you in the eye with her mouth and lips full of your liquid pleasure and take the embodiment of your lust into herself all while keeping eye contact, it really gets me going. the look of the mouth and lips are super sexy, the way the tongue moves around the cum, that's all important but the look in the eyes, that's the key. some girls have a look of joy in they're eyes at the moment they swallow.

the eyes along with the facial expressions and mouth and lips all together really do it for me. i just love it when the girl stares deep into the camera. she knows we are watching her. it's very hard to fake your facial expression then and there with cum in your mouth. i love seeing have different girls react to that pressure.

any of you guys feel the seem way? i like the happy and lusty facial expression myself. what about you guys?

Yes, yes. Eye contact is also very important for me, I should have also mentioned it. Like you said, when eye contact is maintained all the way through the process, it is gold.

The main problem with gokkun though is the lack of standards. It could be one shot or one hundred. It could be directly in mouth or from glass. And the lack of standards also extends to the girls: the girls doing gokkun generally aren't as pretty as the girls getting bukkaked (unless the gokkun also involves bukkake). Due to its nature, there is a higher standard of beauty for bukkake.

So the idea of gokkun is great, but the execution is not as great.

Agreed. This is a problem I have with Asfur, for example. The set-up is perfect, but most of the idols are just not very attractive to me. I can't blame them, of course, this is my problem, not theirs.

 

[birsha]

Agreed. This is a problem I have with Asfur, for example. The set-up is perfect, but most of the idols are just not very attractive to me. I can't blame them, of course, this is my problem, not theirs.

Nah, you can blame them. They do occasionally get really attractive younger girls but they definitely seem to lean towards the older less attractive to me girls. Which is sad because in some ways I like the variety in how they shoot their scenes that's missing from the Knights-Visual stuff.

 

[jaystak]

Well, what we do with our girlfriends doesn't count as bukkake or gokkun because it's only one load (usually).

But for JAV, there's something special about a great bukkake scene. Gokkun is cool too, but sometimes it's a bit one-dimensional.

BTW, if you'd like to see vids of my girlfriend swallowing, be sure to PM for details I like to show her off.

 

[bitchplease]

I've recently had the pleasure of hooking up with a girl who's even more eager to indulge my gokkun fetish than any of my previous partners. Lets call her Allie. First of all, she's asian and short and cute, but she has that gleam in her eye that told me she was naughty. It started when I offered her a ride home on my way to an appointment. I didnt have a lot of time. As we started getting close to her place she casually mentioned that some guys can't come from blowjobs and how much that bothered her. I told her that I wouldn't have a problem orgasming from one of her blowjobs if she promised to swallow. I was just trying to be forward and funny. At the point when I said this I wasn't sure if she was serious, but she immediately told me she'd be honored to get to swallow me.

We had barely walked into her apartment and she got on her knees and I unzipped. After some preliminary ball licking, she started sucking hard right away, so I felt totally justified grabbing some fistfulls of her hair and humping into her throat. She completely relaxed her throat and let me go to town. To show me her submission she clasped her hands together behind her back while I throatfucked her. It didn't take long for my orgasm to start to build up. I asked if she was ready and she just mmm-hhmmmed around my cock. Fingers tangled in her hair as I started to moan. I didn't slow down at all, shooting spurt after spurt as I kept thrusting. My thrusts started to slow down and I groaned with pleasure, my cock never leaving her mouth. Her lips squeezed up my cock as she pulled off. I was already having a great time getting sucked off when the unthinkable happened. Allie looked up at me, expectantly, with my cum on her stuck-out tongue. That gleam in her brown eyes, the smile all over her face. She was so proud of what she had in her mouth. There was no look whatsoever of distaste or disgust. My mind was completely blown, but I still managed to tell her to gulp, which she did while looking up at me without a flinch. Allie was still on her knees smiling at me. It was that postorgasmic moment where everything comes back to reality.

In all the other instances in which a girl had shown me my cum, it had been after developing a relationship with me which allowed me to be comfortable with asking for what I want. This time it was completely her initiative, from talking about blowjobs in the first place. It only took me a second to realize I was still hard. I didnt have time to fuck her pussy because of my appointment, but I asked if I could jerk one more out on her tongue and she enthusiastically agreed. I had literally just cum, but I jerked my dick hard and fast, and she opened her mouth and looked in my eyes in a begging way. When I started to shoot again, she moved and manoeuvred her lips to catch every single drop. It wasn't as big of a load but she still tried to show it off for me before swallowing on command again. Fuck. I was about to be late. But as I ran out she told me how hot that made her and showed me the vibrator she was going to use to rub one off as soon as I left.

We've been getting together for the occasional marathon blowjob session ever since. She really appreciated the cum swallowing focussed hentai manga I shared with her. Up until this point, I've shared my interest in cum swallowing porn with girls, but to a point. I respect women having their own taste in their own porn. Even Jenny, the girl who put on NCDA for me, didnt like something about the japanese gokkun style. But somehow I knew Allie would be totally enthralled. She gets off on fetishizing herself, her mouth, her race. So when I was over and told her I wanted to force her to watch disgusting gokkun on her couch, she got that twinkle in her eyes and pulled out her toy. The particular movie we watched was MZD-005, a gokkun movie with a very cute enthusiastic swallower like Allie. I watched Allie gently rub her clit and narrated the scene to her, telling her everything I liked about each swallow. Her first comment was "How do I get to be like that girl?" My favorite part of the movie is at the end, when they force the actress to watch all her own swallows and masturbate with an egg vibrator, just like Allie was doing on the couch right in front of me. I asked her what she thought was going through the actresses mind. "She's getting off on how much of a whore she can be." I could tell Allie was close when she told me to suck and bite one of her her tits. I saw that the actress on camera was starting to cum, and so was Allie. She was making her O-face, moaning and creaming around her fingers while gokkun played in the screen, and her eyes never left the scene. She starts to come back to reality and asks, "Do you want to come in my mouth now?" Why yes, I did. I rewound to one of my favorite cumshots in the movie and climbed up on the couch and started fucking my load into her mouth. She held my cum in her mouth and tried to imitate the gokkun actress on the screen, down to the swallowing style.

Having these hookups with Allie is really helping me come to terms with my asian blowjob fetish. Its really cathartic in a lot of ways, being able to share this most intimate and perverted desire. I think its really cathartic for her too, and I wouldn't be surprised if she does porn some day not just for the money, but for the chance to act out her deep desire to be a blowjob whore for a group of guys. Its a desire that I want to help her cultivate.

 

[jaystak]

There's a great bukkake Discord group here:
https://discord.gg/qPjyK8r

 

[JAVinsight]

Both. Most porn movies end with one of them. watched separate bukkake & gokkun series too.
somewhat enjoyed.

 

[samurai79]

There's a great bukkake Discord group here:
https://discord.gg/qPjyK8r

Link does not work.

 

[headcrusher]

As someone who enjoys both bukkake and gokkun (among other fetishes, of course) perhaps I can explain what the attraction is.

I believe the two main attractions of bukkake/gokkun are those of:
1) sexual objectification - the act of treating a person as an instrument of sexual pleasure. Treating a person as a commodity or an object, without regard to their personality or dignity.
and
2) sexual promiscuity - the practice of having casual sex frequently with different partners
Both of which are very common fantasies.

Bukkake and gokkun just happen to be a very extreme examples of both sexual fascinations occurring at the same time: a girl being used as cum rag/dumpster (objectification) often times by hundreds of men one immediately after another (promiscuity). Then factor the in attractiveness of beautiful face (bukkake/gokkun primarily focus on the face), along with the girl’s sweet expressions and reactions, as well as natural human fascination with fluid transfer (cumming in or on something). You now have a genre that accommodates several fantasies/fetishes in one, and does so in a very extreme fashion.

I think you’d be hard pressed to find a person that doesn’t receive some level sexual gratification from watching bukkake/gokkun. And its quite obvious on this forum in particular considering there are currently 3 pinned threads and 4-5 active threads relating to bukkake and gokkun.

For those who dislike bukkake but like gokkun or vice versa, I’m sorry but I don’t have an answer for that as I quite thoroughly enjoy both.

This is the key imo. There's something super hot when you use a part of the woman body "not intended" for getting pleasure. And this is not only for the face. It's not very common but in some videos the guy gets an armpit job, or someone is rubbing his dick with her feet while the girl is surrounded by more dicks...
Also our faces are what makes us recognizable. It's is what gives us an identity, what causes embarrassment when we're doing something we don't like.
When we see 20 guys (sometimes when their face covered) cumming in a face we see how her dignity and privacy have been somehow affected.
Of course someone could say that some girls like it... but I think this excitement comes from the same place.