But doesn't R18 currently offer one movie for free? But I didn't have a deeper look into it.
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R18.com has same movies at 50% off. We do not have discount on channel because we already have the channels for 100 JPY. DMM does not have this offer of 100 JPY channels.
Also R18.com offers a free movie for all R18.com members. DMM does not have this offer either.
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DMM's parent company own many big studios, but nowhere near all of them. Maybe you can consider 25% of the market in their hands
DUGA does have DRM-free movies, but not all the movies are DRM-free. In fact, most large studios require DRM even at DUGA. I agree it's pointless when you can also buy physical versions of the movies, but that's how it is.
DMM has a huge staff, yes, but their adult wing is just a small part of what they do.
DMM's parent company own many big studios, but nowhere near all of them. Maybe you can consider 25% of the market in their hands
DUGA does have DRM-free movies, but not all the movies are DRM-free. In fact, most large studios require DRM even at DUGA. I agree it's pointless when you can also buy physical versions of the movies, but that's how it is.
DMM has a huge staff, yes, but their adult wing is just a small part of what they do.
I hate the DRM crap, especially the new Rplayer based on Silverlight but I am willing to buy movies I can't find anywhere else. Unfortunately the few I am looking for aren't on R18. In fact, I can't find them anywhere. Not sure about DMM as I can't figure out how to access it or pay for anything if I can access.
But man, there had to be a better way than Silverlight DRM and there is no freaking reason we should have to download a separate player from each site. You guys are connected, you own some of these studios, create one player with all features that will be the standard for all sites. Not this half baked, no feature Rplayer. That bothers me the most. Well, OK, the DRM bothers me the most, but atleast you could make less sucky for us
But man, there had to be a better way than Silverlight DRM and there is no freaking reason we should have to download a separate player from each site. You guys are connected, you own some of these studios, create one player with all features that will be the standard for all sites. Not this half baked, no feature Rplayer. That bothers me the most. Well, OK, the DRM bothers me the most, but atleast you could make less sucky for us
Sorry about that. We are looking into it. jux-746 should be in R18.com also. Seems like the content has not been translated yet.
I did reply your question.
Why R18.com does not have 50% off on Channels subscription when DMM does?
The answer is Because R18.com already have a Channels subscription promotion that is 2 days for 100JPY.
DMM and R18 does not have always exactly same promotions. R18.com has some times sales like Black Friday that DMM does not and DMM does some time has sales that R18.com does not have.
Could you please give me the IDs of movies that you cannot find in R18.com ? I can see we are missing some movies that we should not be missing so we are investigating the issue.
I think I did previously and you said that you don't have rights to the studios or something. They were FED-21, BEBE-06, and MGRO-01. Problem is there is no way to get them anywhere it seems. Back to the topic, is there any way you will move to a industry standard for all this DRM crap? And what about when silverlight is completely dead?
Sorry, I see. FED-21, BEBE-06, and MGRO-01 are just available on DVD. DMM/R18.com does not have rights from the studio to sell it on digital version.
I think we mentioned before but our engineers are already working to move away from Silverlight. This takes a lot of time as all the movies (each movie size, device etc) needs to be re-encoded.
We do not love DRM/Silverlight either but we need to meet the Studios requirements to be able to get the rights to sell their movies.
sideloaded: R18/DMM probably does not want to bother with juggling more formats than they do already hence the decision to go DRM for all titles regardless of studio. They're a market decider compared to smaller (but still big) sites like DUGA so economies of scale are on their side. When you're working with a library of 200,000+ titles growing several thousand per month SENT IN VIA PHYSICAL HARD DRIVES (YES, THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW THEY DO IT HERE!) in various encoding formats, it makes sense to automate the process as much as possible.
Yes, nobody wants DRM, but when the executives at top call the shots in favor of it, bickering about it on an online forum will not help.
Also, DMM owns many top studios, but not all. I'd peg it 50/50 between them and SOD if you're just talking really big names. Also, the cost to produce a title is not so much so even mid-range studios can pump out titles that have essentially the same (or close to) quality as 'top studio titles'.
Yes, nobody wants DRM, but when the executives at top call the shots in favor of it, bickering about it on an online forum will not help.
Also, DMM owns many top studios, but not all. I'd peg it 50/50 between them and SOD if you're just talking really big names. Also, the cost to produce a title is not so much so even mid-range studios can pump out titles that have essentially the same (or close to) quality as 'top studio titles'.
@sideloaded and @Justme4jav, I'm sorry to hear that you have some problems. But I think you're mayba a l-i-t-t-l-e b-i-t unfair towards @R18.com (R18/DMM).
I'm not sure if you also used the official communication channels of R18 to tell them about your problems. This forum is not a customer support forum of R18/DMM. IMHO it's a miracle that these guys are willing to listen to the complains and requests here.
About the DRM: They have to use DRM because of the other studios and maybe their own policy. So they had to use some technology. Back then maybe Silverlight seemed to be a good solution. It would be absolutely crazy to implement their own DRM - even with 600 engineers. Especially as many of them are surely occupied with the DMM website and their internal software (like Amazon - which is much bigger - also spends most of its time on their software and not on some video codecs or whatever). Now that Silverlight is dead (Microsoft cancelled the support) they are switching to another technology.
And if it doesn't work with your graphics card maybe it's a problem with you card, driver or OS - and not the R18 player. It seems that it doesn't have these problems at all customer systems. The problem is that they can't test all combination of systems. Even not Microsoft. So it's not always the program, but the system it runs on. Believe me, I'm a software developer.
I'm not sure if you also used the official communication channels of R18 to tell them about your problems. This forum is not a customer support forum of R18/DMM. IMHO it's a miracle that these guys are willing to listen to the complains and requests here.
About the DRM: They have to use DRM because of the other studios and maybe their own policy. So they had to use some technology. Back then maybe Silverlight seemed to be a good solution. It would be absolutely crazy to implement their own DRM - even with 600 engineers. Especially as many of them are surely occupied with the DMM website and their internal software (like Amazon - which is much bigger - also spends most of its time on their software and not on some video codecs or whatever). Now that Silverlight is dead (Microsoft cancelled the support) they are switching to another technology.
And if it doesn't work with your graphics card maybe it's a problem with you card, driver or OS - and not the R18 player. It seems that it doesn't have these problems at all customer systems. The problem is that they can't test all combination of systems. Even not Microsoft. So it's not always the program, but the system it runs on. Believe me, I'm a software developer.
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