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zepp

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Dec 5, 2009
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is there any way that i can watch vids on different video player?
window media player sucks... and is there any way i could unlocked the license?
my computer gets too slow when i try to watch a video
 

Casshern2

Senior Member...I think
Mar 22, 2008
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DMM will soon move away from Windows Media Player, so you're in luck there. Unlocking licenses is hard to do with current PCs, you'd need to have (or find someone who has) an older XP PC with the old components on the, as I understand.
 

Captain Bondage

Active Member
Sep 30, 2013
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Shame on you for trying to get around the license. Isn't there enough stolen JAV for you to download already?

You can use the R-player with the R18.com website for subscriptions and VOD.
 

ding73ding

Akiba Citizen
Oct 25, 2009
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Shame on you for trying to get around the license. Isn't there enough stolen JAV for you to download already?

You can use the R-player with the R18.com website for subscriptions and VOD.

But mostly your paying customer isn't trying to steal from you (DMM), the DRM simply interfere with the enjoyment of the product we already PAID for. As he said, the problem is poor quality of WMP. The root problem is the studio/publishers (DMM) get duped into some iffy technology by software vendors (MS). But is DRM hindering or promoting piracy?

Right now, except for the moral burden, the extremely minimal legal risk (few countries would take legal action on behalf of foreign porn businesses) and sometimes watermark by the release group, on every imaginable aspects pirated vids is a better shopping, viewing and re-viewing experience than the legit thing. Legit product is simply uncompetitive!

Release groups+file hosts+torrents have already made DRM totally meaningless in terms of stopping piracy. The only thing DRM does is drive away paying customers, especially those who aren't tech-savvy geeks (who are less likely to pirate, but also more likely to get annoyed by non-user-friendly DMM). A smarter strategic choice for DMM is to drop DRM completely and appeal to the conscience of the JAV fans. To be honest to myself... if it's a smooth, reliable shopping/payment experience and a DRM-free transportable, archive-able product. I think I will be buying on average about 6 full-priced (~ 3000 yens) new release JAV plus about 6 discounted (under 2000 yens) older/classic JAV per year.

It's actually quite arousing, sending money to my fav JAV performers.
 

Inertia

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But mostly your paying customer isn't trying to steal from you (DMM), the DRM simply interfere with the enjoyment of the product we already PAID for. As he said, the problem is poor quality of WMP. The root problem is the studio/publishers (DMM) get duped into some iffy technology by software vendors (MS). But is DRM hindering or promoting piracy?

Right now, except for the moral burden, the extremely minimal legal risk (few countries would take legal action on behalf of foreign porn businesses) and sometimes watermark by the release group, on every imaginable aspects pirated vids is a better shopping, viewing and re-viewing experience than the legit thing. Legit product is simply uncompetitive!

Release groups+file hosts+torrents have already made DRM totally meaningless in terms of stopping piracy. The only thing DRM does is drive away paying customers, especially those who aren't tech-savvy geeks (who are less likely to pirate, but also more likely to get annoyed by non-user-friendly DMM). A smarter strategic choice for DMM is to drop DRM completely and appeal to the conscience of the JAV fans. To be honest to myself... if it's a smooth, reliable shopping/payment experience and a DRM-free transportable, archive-able product. I think I will be buying on average about 6 full-priced (~ 3000 yens) new release JAV plus about 6 discounted (under 2000 yens) older/classic JAV per year.

It's actually quite arousing, sending money to my fav JAV performers.

Great, great post. It'll fall on deaf ears though. DRM for non-exclusive movies that can already be purchased/acquired both legally and (unfortunately) illegally by other venders including physical media is pointless.
 
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Fisheraaa

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Aug 9, 2014
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I always laugh when they call file sharing - stealing. :D
If the product is good , enough people will buy it EVEN IF THERE IS A FREE VERSION FOR DOWNLOAD , because they simply want to thank the company for the good work. But ofcourse ... companies want profits in 4 digits percentage. :D Even funier is when companies realease shity products and when noone buys them , they blame piracy for that lol.
 

princeali692

Jav is love... Jav is life...
Jun 29, 2012
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Fact is file sharing does cut into sales. It's true that a lot of people that pirate would never have bought it anyway, but there still is a significant % of people that would have bought it if it wasn't so easily available for free. For example, I found Ex Machina to be a good movie. Since I downloaded it for free though, there was no point in paying to see it again in the movie theater, even though I would have probably paid to see it if I couldn't get it free so easily. You can say some movies are shitty and are not worth paying for, but when it comes to jav and you blow your load over it, I think that jav was probably worth at least something. Especially since you can rewatch it for the rest of your life.

With that said, the DRM is annoying in the fact that I cannot watch paid for javs in my favorite VLC player. It's not a big deal for me though since I only watch Jav from my laptop or while connecting it to my HD tv. I was still willing to pay $106 dollars today for movies from r18.com. I can download them all in multiple resolutions and it's pretty much free backup since it's stored in your r18 library. So if my collection were lost somehow, I would still be able to easily recover the movies I purchased.

I am not being paid by r18.com. I just want to encourage more people to give back to the producers that create such great movies.
 

Captain Bondage

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Sep 30, 2013
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You can argue about DRM all you like, it won't be going away on DMM or R18 for sure. Our numbers and the numbers across the industry don't support a non-DRM service. Personally, not only as someone who works for this company, but I think the adult industries biggest mistake was giving users porn with no DRM in the first place. Visit any tubesite to see the damage it's done to the industry. While many of our movies are available for download as well, right here on this forum...:mad: it's small potatoes to the benefits that come from implementing DRM on our products. There are plenty of good reasons for purchasing and using R18 or DMM to get and watch your movies legally, I won't give you a long pitch and try and sell you on them here though. I think many of our users understand this and are willing to pay, in some cases as little as 80cents to access our content.
 
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ding73ding

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I won't give you a long pitch and try and sell you on them here though.

Likewise, I don't want to have a full-on debate here. Whether piracy is hurting the industry is beyond debate. It is! No one would sanely argue that piracy is good. But it does happen, just as death and taxation. And clearly DRM as well as a lot of big anti-piracy legal cases (most famous was Napster) has not eliminated piracy. We don't commit piracy with a clear conscience, look we call ourselves and each other leeches.

Now the question is: how to sustain and maximize profit and growth for JAV producers, given various external factors. For example, the morality law (censorship) is also a factor the industry has to deal with. Same as piracy, it's something you have to live with. (And I appreciate having a stakeholder from DMM/R18 on Akiba-Online here, despite most of the activity, even the business model of Akiba-Online is hurting DMM/R18)

Anyway, in keeping with my promise, I won't argue my case more... But I do have a bad feeling about the future...
 

Captain Bondage

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Sep 30, 2013
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Where are these 80 cent numbers? Or is that one of those "80 cents a day" things?
Currently, we are running a trial promotion for the DREAM and MOODYZ channels, that costs 80 cents (it says 90 on the banner but due to the exchange rate its closer to 80) . Here is also a link to the sales page which has over 120 items listed on it with everything under $2...so you can literally get dozens and dozens of hours for under 10 dollars. That's a bloody deal even if you DO pirate a lot.

http://www.r18.com/common/search/order=cheap/pagesize=120/price_max=sale/unit=USD/page=1/
 

zepp

New Member
Dec 5, 2009
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Shame on you for trying to get around the license. Isn't there enough stolen JAV for you to download already?

You can use the R-player with the R18.com website for subscriptions and VOD.

You can argue about DRM all you like, it won't be going away on DMM or R18 for sure. Our numbers and the numbers across the industry don't support a non-DRM service. Personally, not only as someone who works for this company, but I think the adult industries biggest mistake was giving users porn with no DRM in the first place. Visit any tubesite to see the damage it's done to the industry. While many of our movies are available for download as well, right here on this forum...:mad: it's small potatoes to the benefits that come from implementing DRM on our products. There are plenty of good reasons for purchasing and using R18 or DMM to get and watch your movies legally, I won't give you a long pitch and try and sell you on them here though. I think many of our users understand this and are willing to pay, in some cases as little as 80cents to access our content.

get the fuck off of my thread if u assume all i do is to promote online piracy smfh...
i paid dmm.co.jp so i dont know what is ur problem. maybe next time i would download as others do lmao
you fucked up for put shame on someone else. yall service sucks lol
 
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Casshern2

Senior Member...I think
Mar 22, 2008
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zepp, ding73ding is right (and all the others that were too lazy not to speak up, including myself). We appreciate your input but we here on Akiba try to remain civil. Your opinion counts, but give it more meaning by keeping things cool and friendly. The Captain is kind enough to...pretty much.

On topic, I get what you're after, if your PC is a bit weak and you can't watch the vids in any type of quality it would be nice to move it to, say, a TV or mobile device. Unfortunately, I'm thinking not. BUT...who's to say things won't get mobile before long.
 
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princeali692

Jav is love... Jav is life...
Jun 29, 2012
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I think the DRM is good for porn, after all society sees it as the lowest form of entertainment. It will never garner the respect of mainstream movies. People don't go to the theaters on the weekends to watch JAV. All it takes is one pirate and boom, thousands of people can simply get it for free. Even as someone who try's hard to purchase it legitimately its hard to pass up.

I agree with Captain Bondage that the industry should have had DRM from the beginning. As a young teen I would of been filled with angst that there was so much less porn available for free. The upside though would be more profits thus more hardcore nasty bukkake/gokkun movies that pushes the envelope! That's all I care about in this whole debate. These women don't do that hot nasty shit for free! They need an incentive to do that because at the end of the day its still their job. Nothing is free. Even when you get something for free there was a cost in producing that thing in some way. That is just reality. Just please stop acting like DMM is oppressing you with their "draconian DRM policies". That just shows how spoiled you are.

What I would suggest they do is make the R player better with more features, like being able to minimize the controls. I prefer watching movies without the time bar, and not always in full screen. I think if they gave the R player more features, and made it mobile for people who like porn on their phone and such, it would be great for everyone.
 

Fisheraaa

Active Member
Aug 9, 2014
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They're making more than enough , stop feeling sorry about them. They aren't some orphans praying for a piece of bread ... They fuck and film it , it's not like they are some scientists from CERN who move humanity forward.

But srsly ... if it wasnt a profitable business , no1 would've picked it , but yet theres so much porn thats made , that it is just insane.

Porn producers arent crying cause they don't make money , but because they don't make enough to be able to do this

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Fisheraaa

Active Member
Aug 9, 2014
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And BTW , brazzers stuff is pirated waayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more , wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more than DMM stuff is .... yet they dont bitch as much about it.