fuck VR-JAV

javnlhd

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i hope that the jav industry doesnt go too far with the vr thing because every time i see a fucking vr release on a date that there is no other good jav and them im looking at the jav stars in it most of them are the good stars like aika yui hatano mao hamesaki and more and them im thinking those stars if they didnt make the VR-JAV they had made more good normal javs


its nooooooooooooooooooooooooo good ;p
 
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Saren

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Have you tried VR yet? After I tried VR I couldn't go back to 2d video's and I ended up deleting close to 2TB's of porn. I find the VR actually makes a lot of the stars more attractive for instance was never that big a fan of Mao Hamesaki but now I love her.
 

jwlim80

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AV VR is just a gimmick at current, all releases are just glamorous 3D POV videos. Once you try the first few, you have already seen everything they have to offer.

It's quite evident that the studios lacks proper equipment and skills to make anything innovative. Why can't we have an interactive r*** title instead of cowgirls ?
 

Casshern2

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AV VR is just a gimmick at current, all releases are just glamorous 3D POV videos. Once you try the first few, you have already seen everything they have to offer.

It's quite evident that the studios lacks proper equipment and skills to make anything innovative. Why can't we have an interactive r*** title instead of cowgirls ?
Gimmick? There are so far over 2,040 gimmicky titles on DMM alone, with no sign of letting up. In release terms, that's 62% of all Fitch titles ever released, starting with the legacy label under Madonna (if you've been in JAV long enough you'll know what I'm talking about), and keep in mind the first title, JUFD-001, was released in 2007. Hardly a gimmick to me.
 
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jwlim80

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Gimmick? There are so far over 2,040 gimmicky titles on DMM alone, with no sign of letting up. In release terms, that's 62% of all Fitch titles ever released, starting with the legacy label under Madonna (if you've been in JAV long enough you'll know what I'm talking about), and keep in mind the first title, JUFD-001, was released in 2007. Hardly a gimmick to me.

But how are they different from each other ? Please quote me a title that is not 3D cowgirl POV and/or have you at least being able to control the camera.
 

Casshern2

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But how are they different from each other ? Please quote me a title that is not 3D cowgirl POV and/or have you at least being able to control the camera.
No offense, but in my opinion that is a weak argument. How different are any given series from any given label much different than the next (in the series). JAV (just like all porn) is exactly formula. Look up any series from any label on DMM. There is a reason all of the covers look similar.

Anyway, I'm assuming you've never experienced a VR title? Do you have the gear to do so? Just asking, because pretty much everyone that has experienced it will tell you how different that experience is from watching a normal JAV (which I still watch more of, BTW). And, really, realistically, we will most likely never be able to control the camera, that's a given that everyone into VR knows already.
 
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jwlim80

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No offense, but in my opinion that is a weak argument. How different are any given series from any given label much different than the next (in the series). JAV (just like all porn) is exactly formula. Look up any series from any label on DMM. There is a reason all of the covers look similar.

Anyway, I'm assuming you've never experienced a VR title? Do you have the gear to do so? Just asking, because pretty much everyone that has experienced it will tell you how different that experience is from watching a normal JAV (which I still watch more of, BTW). And, really, realistically, we will most likely never be able to control the camera, that's a given that everyone into VR knows already.

At my current stage, I'm more interested in innovations that push the limits of what is possible, instead of just the same template with different girls.

VR is suppose to make you feel that you are actually the actor and not an audience as with regular AV. Camera control can be possible if they invest in an expensive 360 camera for filming. And a pipe dream is a film with full interaction like a game using different cuts. But I know that such things are impossible and out of budget for the studios.
 

Casshern2

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At my current stage, I'm more interested in innovations that push the limits of what is possible, instead of just the same template with different girls.

VR is suppose to make you feel that you are actually the actor and not an audience as with regular AV. Camera control can be possible if they invest in an expensive 360 camera for filming. And a pipe dream is a film with full interaction like a game using different cuts. But I know that such things are impossible and out of budget for the studios.
I'll assume I was right, you haven't experienced it, because that's exactly what it does. Yes, most of what you mention is a pipe dream.
 

jwlim80

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I'll assume I was right, you haven't experienced it, because that's exactly what it does. Yes, most of what you mention is a pipe dream.

I suppose I have different expectation here. I want to fully interact with the girl instead of just standing or lying there.
 

Saren

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I suppose I have different expectation here. I want to fully interact with the girl instead of just standing or lying there.
The very nature of video's will always keep you from interacting with the models in the way you want. I will say that the way VR is done I do feel like the one having sex with the stars. In terms of positions, there is cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, missionary, doggy, prone bone, standing, pile driver and many more variations/styles. In terms of scenario's you have a wide range of things like 3p-4p/orgies/swapping/ntr/cheating/exhibition/blowjob/bondage/massages all with young JK's/milfs/widows/idols/Gals/ etc. Sounds like you would be more interested in something like Illusion's Honey Select or similar games imo. It's always hard to describe VR video's to most people because they don't really understand or believe it or don't have the equipment. If you watch a VR video in just a regular video player on your PC it's just 2d but when you watch it with a appropriate device that video wraps around you with everything having depth/presence, combine that with the binaural audio and it's very convincing.
 

jwlim80

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The very nature of video's will always keep you from interacting with the models in the way you want. I will say that the way VR is done I do feel like the one having sex with the stars. In terms of positions, there is cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, missionary, doggy, prone bone, standing, pile driver and many more variations/styles. In terms of scenario's you have a wide range of things like 3p-4p/orgies/swapping/ntr/cheating/exhibition/blowjob/bondage/massages all with young JK's/milfs/widows/idols/Gals/ etc. Sounds like you would be more interested in something like Illusion's Honey Select or similar games imo. It's always hard to describe VR video's to most people because they don't really understand or believe it or don't have the equipment. If you watch a VR video in just a regular video player on your PC it's just 2d but when you watch it with a appropriate device that video wraps around you with everything having depth/presence, combine that with the binaural audio and it's very convincing.

And how would that differ the current state of VR from being a glorified 3D POV where they replace the 3D glasses with oversize visors ?

From the way they market VR as the next evolution of AV, I expected something more.
 

Hans Kowalski

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JAV VR suffers from it's censorship. It's not that much of an issue during sex, but really throws you of during blowjob and handjob scenes. In regular movies it's not an issue, because there's already a degree of seperation, but if you're looking at "your" pixelated dick in VR it gets weird.
 

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And how would that differ the current state of VR from being a glorified 3D POV where they replace the 3D glasses with oversize visors ?

From the way they market VR as the next evolution of AV, I expected something more.
You'll never understand because you can't experience it yourself, obviously, which is why you still haven't answered if you have VR gear or not. It's very clear you don't. And that's okay. What's a bit annoying is your insesant indictment of something you don't have first-hand knowledge of, so you're textbook ignorant on the subject. I'm hear to tell you what you keep describing is not at all how you would experience a VR title. But, you can continue to think so until you can put a headset on. You won't be disappointed. Well...maybe with your unrealistic expectations you will. :D
 
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I love VR JAV and I think it has great potential, however I am already starting to get bored with whats coming out. The directors need to get more creative. The 'harem' and 3P scenes are almost always the same one girl riding cowgirl while the other(s) sit around, watch and giggle and give you(the viewer) the occasional kiss. The is almost no contact between the girls. I would love to see the girls kissing / licking / touching / fucking each other while playing with the viewer.
 

Casshern2

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Wow it JUST hit me the OP choice of title was not referring JAV VR where you seemingly fuck, but was actually saying "fuck you" to JAV VR! LOL

Now he's silent seeing all the back and forth. Good thread though, lots of opinions! But, to his dismay, most likely, with more headsets coming out and in development, this is here to stay for the time being. And the stars don't mind I'm sure. Less work to make a 32 minute title, I'll assume.
 

javnlhd

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Wow it JUST hit me the OP choice of title was not referring JAV VR where you seemingly fuck, but was actually saying "fuck you" to JAV VR! LOL

Now he's silent seeing all the back and forth. Good thread though, lots of opinions! But, to his dismay, most likely, with more headsets coming out and in development, this is here to stay for the time being. And the stars don't mind I'm sure. Less work to make a 32 minute title, I'll assume.
nah i just didnt see these comments because i didnt get a message or mail that i got all these comments

but oke i understand that if you have a VR-HEADSET then it must be very fun and like you guys said i dont have a vr-headset but hear me out if you dont have a vr-headset and jav stars that you like do vr stuff in months and leave you waiting for a normal jav video its not fun and so thats why i choose that title FUCK VR-JAV so if you guys like it thats oke but for people that dont have a 500$ headset and yeah i know that there are cheaper vr-headsets but if you buy it not only for porn then you end up with the pricey headsets so for those guys it suckes that they like it so much in japan


FUCK VR-JAV ;p
 

Casshern2

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nah i just didnt see these comments because i didnt get a message or mail that i got all these comments

but oke i understand that if you have a VR-HEADSET then it must be very fun and like you guys said i dont have a vr-headset but hear me out if you dont have a vr-headset and jav stars that you like do vr stuff in months and leave you waiting for a normal jav video its not fun and so thats why i choose that title FUCK VR-JAV so if you guys like it thats oke but for people that dont have a 500$ headset and yeah i know that there are cheaper vr-headsets but if you buy it not only for porn then you end up with the pricey headsets so for those guys it suckes that they like it so much in japan


FUCK VR-JAV ;p
Well said! :D
 

kharo88

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Hmm, I didn't really pay attention to VR after my initial comments on it in the other thread, but it does look like it blew up! I see lots of people praising it, saying how it's a very different experience. So now I am really curious about it, although I still wouldn't invest in it(not that I could). At the end of the day, I'm sure that VR is not only here to say but that it's also the future, so to speak.
On the other hand I do understand what the OP is saying, but hey, it's not like those girls just got suddenly contracted to do VR exclusively. Just wait for it! Besides, there are tons of actresses, so even if a few miss a month in regular JAV, there's plenty that don't.
What I'd like to see is retired actresses like Riko Tachibana or someone of that caliber coming back to do VR. That'd be amazing!