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I think many of the AV stars take their craft very seriously. They know their assets and to make that their signatures. And directors key in on certain talents, or rather they know how to accentuate the female performer and show her in the best of light.

For example, Ai Uehara and the way she swallows. She always swallows with that smile showing those pearly whites, that's almost like a half open mouth swallow.
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Or another example is, Maki Hoshikawa, who loves to play with stringy cum/cum ropes/thick solid cum and holding it with her fingers and sucking the cum string back into her mouth like spaghetti.

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Finally, one more example is, Rena Aoi and her giant round mouth. She looks like such a cum cutie and sure knows how to open wide to take loads in her mouth. As an illustration, I will refer to the picture that was attached in the very first post of this great thread. Seriously, Rena looks like she's having a blast taking huge loads in her mouth.
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What are some of your guys favorite swallow techniques or signature cum play moves that your favorite AV stars do?
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Hello, does anyone know what is the code of the image of Ai Uehara?
 
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RIP to the gokkun genre. In the past, JAV performers have less freedom and kind of forced into doing gokkun. Nowadays, since performers have a lot of freedom, they just don't want to do it. Only true enthusiasts will do it. I can see that even JAV directors are not hyped up about doing a gokkun themed JAV title. It is sad to see the trend moving far away from gokkun. Like for example, MVG used to produce tons of great gokkun titles but now they're just doing normal porn with some creampie.

I myself have posted so much less (none actually) and seeing that the upcoming gokkun titles have like what, 5 swallows? I think gokkun reached the pinnacle during the 90s and early 2000s. Those were the days. Now, all we get is a 2 hour video of 5 swallows.

There was a shift where western (noticeably PremiumBukkake) kind of took over this. Not all girls are the best looking ones and they focused too close to the girls but hey, it's better than nothing.

Knights Visual and Asfur are kinda dead too if you ask me. Too bad people outside from Japan has no say to hype up gokkun again.
 
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RIP to the gokkun genre. In the past, JAV performers have less freedom and kind of forced into doing gokkun. Nowadays, since performers have a lot of freedom, they just don't want to do it. Only true enthusiasts will do it. I can see that even JAV directors are not hyped up about doing a gokkun themed JAV title. It is sad to see the trend moving far away from gokkun. Like for example, MVG used to produce tons of great gokkun titles but now they're just doing normal porn with some creampie.

I myself have posted so much less (none actually) and seeing that the upcoming gokkun titles have like what, 5 swallows? I think gokkun reached the pinnacle during the 90s and early 2000s. Those were the days. Now, all we get is a 2 hour video of 5 swallows.

There was a shift where western (noticeably PremiumBukkake) kind of took over this. Not all girls are the best looking ones and they focused too close to the girls but hey, it's better than nothing.

Knights Visual and Asfur are kinda dead too if you ask me. Too bad people outside from Japan has no say to hype up gokkun again.
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I agree with you...However...I think there is a pendulum effect. Right now it has swung away from Gokkun. I think it will swing back and we will see more. What you say is true about studios like MVG and others. But Porn is a ultimately a consumer driven business not a company or even actress driven business. The industry wants to make money and will be forced to make gokkun movies because the public will not buy the tamer stuff that is available from countless makers. On the bright side...as you point out...the actresses that do gokkun these days are more into the genre!... a good thing. There is so much porn available on the Internet that watchers like us have other sources to choose from and makers need to sell product to stay alive.
 
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You guys make some great points. I too am very sad over how few and far between (if not non existent) there are great gokkun movies these days. Recently I've gone back and purchased all the titles I stayed away from just because there were so many other great gokkun titles out, and coming out on a regular basis, and there's only so much time in the day. I'm amazed watching the older stuff. I mean, there was so much focus on cum swallowing it was just incredible. So many great series that kept putting out great titles pretty much monthly.

Is there anything more we the consumers can do, while we wait and hope for the pendulum to swing back? GoFundMe?? Lol. I mean, enough money can solve any problem you would think.
 
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I agree with you...However...I think there is a pendulum effect. Right now it has swung away from Gokkun. I think it will swing back and we will see more. What you say is true about studios like MVG and others. But Porn is a ultimately a consumer driven business not a company or even actress driven business. The industry wants to make money and will be forced to make gokkun movies because the public will not buy the tamer stuff that is available from countless makers. On the bright side...as you point out...the actresses that do gokkun these days are more into the genre!... a good thing. There is so much porn available on the Internet that watchers like us have other sources to choose from and makers need to sell product to stay alive.
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I hope that it swings back soon, it has been many years that the genre is going downslope and hopefully it will bounce back up. Yup, it's consumer driven and I actually really wonder if we are the minority in this. LOL But at least I know we are definitely in this gokkun fetish. Let's hope that the majority of people will have similar taste.

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You guys make some great points. I too am very sad over how few and far between (if not non existent) there are great gokkun movies these days. Recently I've gone back and purchased all the titles I stayed away from just because there were so many other great gokkun titles out, and coming out on a regular basis, and there's only so much time in the day. I'm amazed watching the older stuff. I mean, there was so much focus on cum swallowing it was just incredible. So many great series that kept putting out great titles pretty much monthly.

Is there anything more we the consumers can do, while we wait and hope for the pendulum to swing back? GoFundMe?? Lol. I mean, enough money can solve any problem you would think.
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Totally, I love the old titles. The directors and actresses go to extreme lengths to give us the best scenes possible. However, I don't think there is anything we can do. I brought this topic a few years back and I just wanted to see if there's anything we can do. Of course, if there's a solution, I will pitch in however I can LOL
 
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Hi Everyone.
I only just found this site and have really enjoyed reading everyone's posts.

With its gokkun films I think Japan has clearly demonstrated its cultural and intellectual superiority over all other nations, with the genius level creativity of its directors and the enthusiasm and beauty of its actresses.
Here are my favourite gokkun goddesses (in order):

Maki Hoshikawa - ASW-168, ASW-172, ASW-223, ES-02, DTK-001, DJE-037.
Yuuki Natsume - MIGD-669 (if you haven't seen this film, definitely check it out), NS-23, BONU-011.
Misaki Kanna - KV-212 (the best gokkun film in how many years? Can anyone name when the previous best one was? What a naughty girl), KV-176, MVSD-292.

The rest (in no particular order):

China Matsuoka - STAR-594
Ichika Kuroki - IPTD-665 (what enthusiasm!)
Marika -MIGD-382, JS-27
Asahi Miura - IPSD-018
Nana Aoyama -IPTD-478
Rui Saotome -JS-19
Yurika Miyaji - DJE-031, ARM-218
Miki Sunohara - DJE-042, ASW-129, ASW-136 (plus all her others).

Also, does anyone know the name of the actress and the year of release of this HAKUDAKOU film - HDD-036?
If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.
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And finally, with all you connoisseurs gathered on the one forum, have you thought of pooling your ideas and submitting a screen play to one of the gokkun film companies?
I know someone raised the possibility of a contest/play-off for the title of undisputed gokkun queen for each year (which is brilliant -apologies -I forgot who suggested it), but I was thinking in addition to that, doing a gokkun drama (with comedy), starring the most beautiful JAV actresses (even ones who haven't yet done gokkun).
Creating a gokkun masterpiece that will last through the ages.
 
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Hi Everyone.
I only just found this site and have really enjoyed reading everyone's posts.

With its gokkun films I think Japan has clearly demonstrated its cultural and intellectual superiority over all other nations, with the genius level creativity of its directors and the enthusiasm and beauty of its actresses.
Here are my favourite gokkun goddesses (in order):

Maki Hoshikawa - ASW-168, ASW-172, ASW-223, ES-02, DTK-001, DJE-037.
Yuuki Natsume - MIGD-669 (if you haven't seen this film, definitely check it out), NS-23, BONU-011.
Misaki Kanna - KV-212 (the best gokkun film in how many years? Can anyone name when the previous best one was? What a naughty girl), KV-176, MVSD-292.

The rest (in no particular order):

China Matsuoka - STAR-594
Ichika Kuroki - IPTD-665 (what enthusiasm!)
Marika -MIGD-382, JS-27
Asahi Miura - IPSD-018
Nana Aoyama -IPTD-478
Rui Saotome -JS-19
Yurika Miyaji - DJE-031, ARM-218
Miki Sunohara - DJE-042, ASW-129, ASW-136 (plus all her others).

Also, does anyone know the name of the actress and the year of release of this HAKUDAKOU film - HDD-036?
If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.
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And finally, with all you connoisseurs gathered on the one forum, have you thought of pooling your ideas and submitting a screen play to one of the gokkun film companies?
I know someone raised the possibility of a contest/play-off for the title of undisputed gokkun queen for each year (which is brilliant -apologies -I forgot who suggested it), but I was thinking in addition to that, doing a gokkun drama (with comedy), starring the most beautiful JAV actresses (even ones who haven't yet done gokkun).
Creating a gokkun masterpiece that will last through the ages.
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Ayy, those are great title choices. I myself love

Mao Hamasaki - her asfur titles and MVG titles
Hitomi Kitagawa - her asfur titles and Idea Pocket title
Uehara Ai - her asfur titles and MVG titles
Yuri Asada (more of the new recent gokkun girl)
Yuu Shinoda (god damn who does not love her)

and many more. I am lazy to look at my hard disc for the title search, but let me know if anyone is interested to know the title codes. My fetish actually goes beyond just gokkun and I definitely get turned on when girls eat cum with food, so yes MVG's cum buffet series was the best for me (A niche among niche lol). For some odd reason, I don't know why titles like MVSD-267 by Uehara Ai disappeared from FANZA and R18. I managed to buy it but it disappeared from the official MVG website as well.
One of the series that I definitely missed was that Idea Pocket used to have 100 shots of sperm, which was OLD BUT GOLD.
Soft on Demand used to have super extreme gokkun titles (e.g SDDE, SDDM, SDDH) and Rocket, which is the sub of SOD also used to have some nice titles too.

As for pitching in ideas to the gokkun film companies, I really think that we need someone that can converse with them in Japanese. As much as we love Japanese products and culture, they definitely do not feel the same way about non-Japanese. So, with Japanese being more inclusive compared to others, the first step is definitely getting someone that can converse in Japanese to get our ideas across.
Even then, the chances are kind of low seeing that there must be other Japanese that wanted the gokkun genre to be revived and that the JAV directors should already be aware that there already is a demand for it. I personally don't think JAV directors are open to listening to other people's ideas. I think they prefer it if they fully direct it themselves but I could totally be wrong. Kirin is definitely a great JAV director that has lots of inspiration.

It is not only demand, but also to see which actress is willing to perform gokkun scenes.
I will give an example, although some of the gokkun fans sway from this title as well LOL
So, from sdde-538, which I use as example because it has 3 different JAV actresses (1. Kanna Misaki, 2. Saryu Usui, 3. Ikumi Kuroki)

After watching the JAV, I can tell that Kanna definitely enjoys it (best gokkun girl ayy), Saryu is struggling and not enjoying at all (she forced herself to eat and enjoy it but her face showed that she's more like forced into this), while Ikumi is okay with it (she's always more open to weird fetishes, and she does scat porn too if I'm not mistaken but definitely not my cup of tea).
So, in this simple analysis, getting JAV actresses that are willing to perform gokkun scenes in general is going to be a challenge, even if the JAV directors have great inspirations.

Milky Cat titles are not bad too, especially the One Pinter series. I know they are trying hard to produce great titles, it's just that they are a lot slower due to various reasons.
Anyway, I am glad that I can still share my thoughts among fellow connoisseurs and that we can discuss it further haha!
 
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weiwei0421 said:
Ayy, those are great title choices. I myself love

Mao Hamasaki - her asfur titles and MVG titles
Hitomi Kitagawa - her asfur titles and Idea Pocket title
Uehara Ai - her asfur titles and MVG titles
Yuri Asada (more of the new recent gokkun girl)
Yuu Shinoda (god damn who does not love her)

and many more. I am lazy to look at my hard disc for the title search, but let me know if anyone is interested to know the title codes. My fetish actually goes beyond just gokkun and I definitely get turned on when girls eat cum with food, so yes MVG's cum buffet series was the best for me (A niche among niche lol). For some odd reason, I don't know why titles like MVSD-267 by Uehara Ai disappeared from FANZA and R18. I managed to buy it but it disappeared from the official MVG website as well.
One of the series that I definitely missed was that Idea Pocket used to have 100 shots of sperm, which was OLD BUT GOLD.
Soft on Demand used to have super extreme gokkun titles (e.g SDDE, SDDM, SDDH) and Rocket, which is the sub of SOD also used to have some nice titles too.

As for pitching in ideas to the gokkun film companies, I really think that we need someone that can converse with them in Japanese. As much as we love Japanese products and culture, they definitely do not feel the same way about non-Japanese. So, with Japanese being more inclusive compared to others, the first step is definitely getting someone that can converse in Japanese to get our ideas across.
Even then, the chances are kind of low seeing that there must be other Japanese that wanted the gokkun genre to be revived and that the JAV directors should already be aware that there already is a demand for it. I personally don't think JAV directors are open to listening to other people's ideas. I think they prefer it if they fully direct it themselves but I could totally be wrong. Kirin is definitely a great JAV director that has lots of inspiration.

It is not only demand, but also to see which actress is willing to perform gokkun scenes.
I will give an example, although some of the gokkun fans sway from this title as well LOL
So, from sdde-538, which I use as example because it has 3 different JAV actresses (1. Kanna Misaki, 2. Saryu Usui, 3. Ikumi Kuroki)

After watching the JAV, I can tell that Kanna definitely enjoys it (best gokkun girl ayy), Saryu is struggling and not enjoying at all (she forced herself to eat and enjoy it but her face showed that she's more like forced into this), while Ikumi is okay with it (she's always more open to weird fetishes, and she does scat porn too if I'm not mistaken but definitely not my cup of tea).
So, in this simple analysis, getting JAV actresses that are willing to perform gokkun scenes in general is going to be a challenge, even if the JAV directors have great inspirations.

Milky Cat titles are not bad too, especially the One Pinter series. I know they are trying hard to produce great titles, it's just that they are a lot slower due to various reasons.
Anyway, I am glad that I can still share my thoughts among fellow connoisseurs and that we can discuss it further haha!
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Yes they are good points about
1) the language barrier
2) the stand-offish Japanese cultural barrier, which would probably make them resistant to Western influence on making/directing their porn films
3) Finding actresses who are willing to do this

The language barrier should be the easiest to overcome (their must be plenty of bilingual Japanese/English speakers who are gokkun fans).
RE point 3, perhaps a large enough cash inducement could sway some of the actresses that are so far reluctant (we could organise a cash contribution fund - I'd throw in a few grand). Perhaps some of the actresses with a proven track record for gokkun could be lured out of retirement for one last big paycheck? Who would have thought that women as beautiful as Nana Aoyama and Asahi Miura would have swallowed 100 random dudes (with a smile), in the first place.
As for the Japanese directors not being open to Western suggestions, perhaps we could make contact with some Japanese gokkun fans and start an independent film production company.
Irrespective of that, it wouldn't hurt to at least make contact with Kirin or Hitsuki and see what they say (probably no?).
Perhaps this is just wishful thinking on my part but it doesn't seem impossible to me.
So we just have to write a screen play, get some cash together, make contact with a Japanese speaking gokkun fan, and contact the film directors.

I still like the idea of an intelligent story line and good acting being combined with gokkun, (but maybe that's just me and other viewers just want to see multiple loads being gulped down with good production values (good lighting, cinematography etc. - which I'm also happy with).
If we go with the story line idea, I would suggest 3 lead actresses (by lead I mean 30 to 80 loads each), plus probably another 3 supporting roles (at least 10 loads apiece) So the movie would have between 100 and 300 swallows.
So we need 6 actresses - I would love to hear suggestions from other forum members. Maybe we should start a poll where everyone suggests their dream team? (maybe 2 lists -a realistic list of currently/recently active gokkun stars, and another fantasy one which includes long since retired gokkun stars from previous decades)
Kanna Misaki is still currently active, loves gokkun and seems to have plenty of fans on this forum, so she would definitely get my vote to be given one of the lead roles.

And yes I also agree with you about the Idea Pocket 100 shots of sperm series - GOLD.
 
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Yes they are good points about
1) the language barrier
2) the stand-offish Japanese cultural barrier, which would probably make them resistant to Western influence on making/directing their porn films
3) Finding actresses who are willing to do this

The language barrier should be the easiest to overcome (their must be plenty of bilingual Japanese/English speakers who are gokkun fans).
RE point 3, perhaps a large enough cash inducement could sway some of the actresses that are so far reluctant (we could organise a cash contribution fund - I'd throw in a few grand). Perhaps some of the actresses with a proven track record for gokkun could be lured out of retirement for one last big paycheck? Who would have thought that women as beautiful as Nana Aoyama and Asahi Miura would have swallowed 100 random dudes (with a smile), in the first place.
As for the Japanese directors not being open to Western suggestions, perhaps we could make contact with some Japanese gokkun fans and start an independent film production company.
Irrespective of that, it wouldn't hurt to at least make contact with Kirin or Hitsuki and see what they say (probably no?).
Perhaps this is just wishful thing on my part but it doesn't seem impossible to me.
So we just have to write a screen play, get some cash together, make contact with a Japanese speaking gokkun fan, and contact the film directors.

I still like the idea of an intelligent story line and good acting being combined with gokkun, (but maybe that's just me and other viewers just want to see multiple loads being gulped down with good production values (good lighting, cinematography etc. - which I'm also happy with).
If we go with the story line idea, I would suggest 3 lead actresses (by lead I mean 30 to 50 loads each), plus probably another 3 supporting roles (5 to 10 loads apiece) So the movie would have between 100 and 200 swallows.
So we need 6 actresses - I would love to hear suggestions from other forum members. Maybe we should start a poll where everyone suggests their dream team?
Kanna Misaki is still currently active, loves gokkun and seems to have plenty of fans on this forum, so she would definitely get my vote to be given one of the lead roles.

And yes I also agree with you about the Idea Pocket 100 shots of sperm series - GOLD.
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Yeap, so any Japanese speaking gokkun fans here in akiba-online? Put your hands up please LOL
I personally think it would be easier if we let epic JAV directors to let their imagination loose.
I know Japanese use Twitter a lot so maybe we can get in touch with the directors that way.
As for an independent film production company, we would definitely need someone with passion to carry the company, I guess I could pitch in some cash, but seems kinda farfetched.
As a non-Japanese, it is hard to grasp the situation of how the JAV industry works so if we could get some insight of how it really operates, it would be great too.
I am pretty sure a typical Japanese wouldn't know that too, so somebody within the Japanese porn industry would be great! I guess asking a JAV director himself would be the best way, provided that they even want to entertain us haha

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I am quite sure that he is Kirin
https://twitter.com/waap_kirin
Now if somebody would be willing to try and contact him, it'd be great :)
I guess I could try using Google Translate later to see how well it goes XD
 
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Yeap, so any Japanese speaking gokkun fans here in akiba-online? Put your hands up please LOL
I personally think it would be easier if we let epic JAV directors to let their imagination loose.
I know Japanese use Twitter a lot so maybe we can get in touch with the directors that way.
As for an independent film production company, we would definitely need someone with passion to carry the company, I guess I could pitch in some cash, but seems kinda farfetched.
As a non-Japanese, it is hard to grasp the situation of how the JAV industry works so if we could get some insight of how it really operates, it would be great too.
I am pretty sure a typical Japanese wouldn't know that too, so somebody within the Japanese porn industry would be great! I guess asking a JAV director himself would be the best way, provided that they even want to entertain us haha

Edit:
I am quite sure that he is Kirin
https://twitter.com/waap_kirin
Now if somebody would be willing to try and contact him, it'd be great :)
I guess I could try using Google Translate later to see how well it goes XD
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What a fucking bunch of weirdos you all are!!...I am too...this is why I love this group!! lol
 
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Awesome discussion guys... hadn't had a chance to catch up on everything yet so forgive me if i say something already said... and many thanks to whoever it was for remembering my idea of a couple years back lol, which kind of sparked my interest in it even more...

Wonder if it came down to it, if say, Maki Hashikawa, Miki Sunohara, Mao Hamasaki, and Kanna Misaki (off the top of my head seems like an excellent Final 4!) could ever be persuaded to do a last harrah at gokkun, or maybe even being sold on the idea of "saving" the gokkun genre, in the form of a competition of some kind, and lets just say somehow they were able to be paid significantly more than ever before doing it.

Then maybe tell them that they have 50 men (negotiable number lol) to do gokkun with, and they have creative control of how exactly they do the scene or scenes in order to score points with the fans/judges however they choose to do. This would really go a long way to determine who the real Gokkun Queen would be.

Then maybe someone like Hana Kano feels slighted and starts talking smack about how she got robbed from being in the field, and that nobody loves cum more than she does, and she challenges the winner to a 1-1 cum swallowing battle lol. Endless possibilities lol.

Another possibility is remaking the classics. There are remakes of old movies all the time but never in porn. Like how bout Endless Semen movies but with a new, younger actress? I guess getting the guys isn't always easy.

Speaking of, I hate mentioning this, but loads back in some of the older movies were incredible compared to some of the wimpy loads of today. If some kind of great Gokkun tournament ever comes off, there better be committed "juice men" lol who can save up for a long period of time.

And whether the competition was actually real or not is irrelevant, although if there could be an accurate way to keep track with some kind of a vote tally, that would be cool too.

Anyway.... if only we could reach out to Kirin or some other director who could take this idea and run with it
 
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