I thought the outside world was paradise...

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Shin Dong-huyk is the only person known to have escaped from a North Korean prison camp. He was born into a life of enslavement and torture inside Camp 14, where he was starved, beaten and forced to watch the executions of his mother and brother.

His body bears many scars — his finger was chopped off by guards who also stuck a hook through his stomach and suspended him over a fire.

Why don’t more people escape? “People don’t know about the outside world. There’s also the systematic brainwashing — ‘I’ve been born as a criminal, I have to live as a criminal until I die and that’s my fate’.”

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/lifes...orean-to-escape-from-prison-camp-7696913.html

His father, whose fate is unknown, became a prisoner for being the brother of two young men who fled south during the Korean war. What is known is that Kim Il Sung had his own interpretation of the power of three, stating that “enemies of class, whoever they are, their seed must be eliminated through three generations”.

Shin’s response to the outside world shows just how institutionalised he’d become. “The most shocking moment came the day after I escaped and saw North Korean society for the first time. I thought it was paradise! People were walking around without guards. This was the moment that changed my understanding of the world.” He couldn’t believe how the impoverished North Korean villagers lived; how they moved freely without being beaten.

North Korea goes about expanding its prison camps — satellite images show several have grown dramatically in recent years. It’s estimated that up to 200,000 people are held within them.

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Since when have the top page posts become a dumping place for people's pseudo-political findings anyway?
Maybe it's just me, but I personally come to this site for Japanese media and pop culture related things, not to be plastered with anyone's agendas/propaganda.
If I want to hear how great the West and evil the rest of the world is, I can just turn on the TV or play Call of Dooky.
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Aqua2213

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North Korea, Cuba, Iran. Countries where half the people are paid to watch the other half. Solutions anyone?

Is the half that's being watched the ones that pay the half that's watching them?
Why don't they fire them?......




I personally come to this site for Japanese media and pop culture related things, not to be plastered with anyone's agendas/propaganda.
If I want to hear how great the West and evil the rest of the world is, I can just turn on the TV or play Call of Dooky.
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I'm confused.. If you don't want to be plastered with "propaganda" why would you ever want to tune into your TV to watch it?

When you clicked on this story and the first two wards are North Korea you had a choice to click or not to click.

I know....watching cute J-pop girls singing and dancing obviously trumps getting giant fish hooks through your stomach and having your chestnuts roasted over an open fire while your whole family for three generations is systemactically exterminated....
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...Just sayin'..

That North Korea ceases to amaze me. The cruelty to it's people. I say that they adopt a new rule that any torture or any other means of punishment on a person must first be done to the one ordering the torture.
I'd like to see what life would be like in North Korea a year later.
One of my favorite sayings is, "Hurt people, hurt people".
 

gyoza ramen & a beer

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I personally come to this site for Japanese media and pop culture related things, not to be plastered with anyone's agendas/propaganda.

Even if, as you say, the extent of your interest in this board is limited to "...Japanese media and pop culture related things" (that's "media", as in, digital amusements that can be downloaded?), is it such a stretch for you to concede or, at least, try to understand how articles like this one just might be of interest or concern to our Asian brothers and sisters on A-O?

How's that workin' out for you, being an angry, Western, White-Boy? :puzzled:
 
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I know....watching cute J-pop girls singing and dancing obviously trumps getting giant fish hooks through your stomach and having your chestnuts roasted over an open fire while your whole family for three generations is systemactically exterminated.... ...Just sayin'..

Well, if you want to go down that route... actually yes, half my family HAS BEEN murdered before my father decided to flee to another country. The ones who decided to cross the border have been robbed off their entire belongings and land. And guess what? The oh so brave Western super power was/is supporting the exact same people who were responsible for it. Ironic, huh?

And you may or may not be aware that in the US there are people getting executed every single day, you find private run prison complexes which are explicitly thought out from architecture to food servings to degenerate and mind form inmates to turn them against each other, you find people starving in the street and getting murdered by "police" forces, also the government can rightfully detain and kill ANY citizen without legal charges, simply based on suspicion or "conspiracy" against the state. Not to mention the cruelties the military commits to people all over the globe on a daily basis in order to destabilize potential competitors and secure trade routes/recources for us to maintain our lavish lifestyle as modern slave holders.

You know, I guess in North Korea, or wherever your current undesired faction resides, people might have a terrible picture of the Western world as well. Have you actually been there and witnessed all these accusations (some of which are absolutely ridiculous by the way)? Your mind is a product of your surrounding. The trick is to withstand that practice and form your own. If we all would follow this advice, there would be a lot less conflicts and injustice. And most of all, there wouldn't be the front page of AO plastered with new political BS every few days.

I remember not too long ago, there were somewhat interesting/entertaining news about Japan related things like music/anime/movies/celebrities/conventions/porn *LOL*, but nowadays I feel like entering FOXNEWS.COM when I open the page. Anyway, peace.

How's that workin' out for you, being an angry, Western, White-Boy? :puzzled:

And I'm neither Western, nor "white". Not that I would have any idea what my ethnicity would have to do with that anyway.
 

EzikialRage

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Well, if you want to go down that route... actually yes, half my family HAS BEEN murdered before my father decided to flee to another country. The ones who decided to cross the border have been robbed off their entire belongings and land. And guess what? The oh so brave Western super power was/is supporting the exact same people who were responsible for it. Ironic, huh?

And you may or may not be aware that in the US there are people getting executed every single day, you find private run prison complexes which are explicitly thought out from architecture to food servings to degenerate and mind form inmates to turn them against each other, you find people starving in the street and getting murdered by "police" forces, also the government can rightfully detain and kill ANY citizen without legal charges, simply based on suspicion or "conspiracy" against the state. Not to mention the cruelties the military commits to people all over the globe on a daily basis in order to destabilize potential competitors and secure trade routes/recources for us to maintain our lavish lifestyle as modern slave holders.

You know, I guess in North Korea, or wherever your current undesired faction resides, people might have a terrible picture of the Western world as well. Have you actually been there and witnessed all these accusations (some of which are absolutely ridiculous by the way)? Your mind is a product of your surrounding. The trick is to withstand that practice and form your own. If we all would follow this advice, there would be a lot less conflicts and injustice. And most of all, there wouldn't be the front page of AO plastered with new political BS every few days.

I remember not too long ago, there were somewhat interesting/entertaining news about Japan related things like music/anime/movies/celebrities/conventions/porn *LOL*, but nowadays I feel like entering FOXNEWS.COM when I open the page. Anyway, peace.

Are you such a douchbag that you have to turn every thread into the news forum section into an American bashing thread or some other conspiracy loon stuff?


And I'm neither Western, nor "white". Not that I would have any idea what my ethnicity would have to do with that anyway.

Considering the fact you have yet to say what country you live in and you sound like a retarded liberal conspiracy loon or some code pink idiot from Berkeley one has to wonder if you are a spoiled white westerner. Every thread its Amerikkka, Evil America is a dictatorship and other nonsense to show that you obviously have not fucken idea what the hell a dictatorship is. Obviously you never lived in a dictatorship, if you did you wouldn't be making the idiotic comments you like to make.
 
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Considering the fact you have yet to say what country you live in and you sound like a retarded liberal conspiracy loon or some code pink idiot from Berkeley one has to wonder if you are a spoiled white westerner. Every thread its Amerikkka, Evil America is a dictatorship and other nonsense to show that you obviously have not fucken idea what the hell a dictatorship is. Obviously you never lived in a dictatorship, if you did you wouldn't be making the idiotic comments you like to make.

I was merely suggesting that we could/should stick to the original theme of the site and actually leave political oriented posts out (as we did before), because I honestly don't understand the significance or purpose of these posts, other than to steer into conflicts or generalizations of some sort. We don't know these people. It's none of our business. And who are we to judge? Just leave it and move on. As for your statement... no comment. You (once again) managed to depict your mind state in a very clear language. Either way, I don't plan to continue this "debatte", as it went on for much longer than I intended.

All I'm saying is: Why do these political themed posts pile up recently? If there really is such high demand for this, make a sub-forum for political discussions and go wild. But don't stuff it in people's face everytime they enter the site. I've come to know that political topics never bring something good to a community, unless they're all like-minded. Just a simple suggestion from my side.

That being said, I'm outta here. Peace
 

CoolKevin

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Since when have the top page posts become a dumping place for people's pseudo-political findings anyway?
Maybe it's just me, but I personally come to this site for Japanese media and pop culture related things, not to be plastered with anyone's agendas/propaganda.
If I want to hear how great the West and evil the rest of the world is, I can just turn on the TV or play Call of Dooky.
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I never understand response's like yours, if as you said, you are only interested in pop culture and media, why? using your words pseudo-political findings come to this thread anyway, and if it is not to your liking, then just move along, without the efforts of typing a single letter, you sure managed to annoy others, give us all a rest and say no more

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