Idols That You Try To Get Into But Can't

Supmop

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Supmop: it's the way she talks. I guess you need to know Japanese to understand it (and I really don't mean this in a cocky way!), but she gives off this really cute and affable performance in pretty much all of her work. The problem is it's almost too perfect like she was an android programmed to emulate a cute human AV star to the best extent possible. I only mean this for her roles where she simply plays "herself". Drama roles with learned dialog are a different story altogether.

I don't really understand whats you mean, I can't speak japanese, but I think I can guess whats you mean
 

asdfaznz

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Ai Uehara. Everyone around here seems to love her, I just don't see the appeal. Unless she is doing a genre that I love such as gokkun, bukkake, interracial, or a blowjob vid I will most likely skip it.

I don't either. I tried to get into her but could not. Most folks just get smitten by a large rack, but the rest of her leaves much to be desired.

I feel the same way about Ayumi Shinoda
 
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Hans Kowalski

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Supmop: it's the way she talks. I guess you need to know Japanese to understand it (and I really don't mean this in a cocky way!), but she gives off this really cute and affable performance in pretty much all of her work. The problem is it's almost too perfect like she was an android programmed to emulate a cute human AV star to the best extent possible. I only mean this for her roles where she simply plays "herself". Drama roles with learned dialog are a different story altogether.

You seem to be the perfect guy to ask this question: I'm no needs more loli or asdfaznz, I like Ai Uehara, but still, whenever I see her and hear her talk, it seems to me that she's one of the worst actresses in the AV business, not in regards to her porn acting skill, but her actual acting skills, whether she's trying to portray her cutesy self, or a drama role, it comes across as the worst acting. Also, when she talks she comes across as somewhat...slow. But that's just my impression and I don't know much japanese, so how does she actually come across in your professional view?
 

javhoarding

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I actually find most of the big boob type idols are pretty bad actresses. They look great and all but they seem super passive about any kind of humiliation scenario and only mildly annoyed at being gang r***ing. I actually want to start a thread talking about the best actresses for dramatic roles. The ones who just can't seem to be bothered with acting at all and the ones who do hamster sounds are particularly annoying. It took my awhile to notice cause I rarely get to watch JAV with the volume up, but yeah that's a big dissappointment.
 

Fisheraaa

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Ai Uehara is love, Ai Uehara is life! Anyway ...

For me it's Nami Itoshino. I've wanted and tried to like her, but i just can't. I've downloaded and deleted her collection like 10 times. Each time i force myself to watch 1 or 2 videos before i delete everything again. I can't realy say what bothers me about her ... i guess it's her act, as she is good looking enough.
 

darksider59

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I will mention first that I almost always avoid actresses that do IR or Wax stuff, and SM (especially when the girl is almost throwing up). Also, I don't really choose girl for their skills, but more because they have 1/ beautiful face 2/ cute manners or something that make them special to me 3/ slender body.
That being said, before having this "rule", I tried to get into some girls but it didn't work :

Ai Uehara: her face reminds me a guy I knew before (one of my brother's friends), I don't know why. And too extreme for me.
Ruka Kanae: small girl (nice body) but average face
Kurea Hasumi: I thought I wouldn't mind that much her face but I couldn't help to think about it as a big NO
Ayaka Tomoda: one of the first I heard about but for some reason, I find her body a bit weird.
Mao Hamasaki: I used to like her but she started doing more hardcore stuff and I decided to stop watching her vids
Hitomi Tanaka : I knew her even before getting into JAV lol, from lurking on porn streaming sites. She has a special face that I find really attractive (plus she seems to be a very friendly girl according to an itw with Anri) but her boobs are too big.
Anri Okita : I started collecting her vids but I noticed that her face changed and her lower body wasn't in shape (plus too big ass)
Rei Mizuna : way too extreme even if she can have a sexy voice. And she seems to be a bit chubby now.
Yui Hatano : first girl I started collecting movies but I find now something not attractive on her face (maybe when she smiles, I can't really explain). And she is moaning too much for nothing lol. Not that much in shape.

I know that I'm talking about being "in shape" even if I have actually one girl who is a bit chubby in my favourite actresses but she's the exception haha. I can't resist to her smile, voice, manners.

Her little belly
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But THAT smile:cinta:
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barba

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maria ozawa has always left me cold.
now some of you think she's a man.
if you find out that she's actually a man, let me know.


just don't tell me that rio hamasaki is a man.
i might kill myself.
 

asdfaznz

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You seem to be the perfect guy to ask this question: I'm no needs more loli or asdfaznz, I like Ai Uehara, but still, whenever I see her and hear her talk, it seems to me that she's one of the worst actresses in the AV business, not in regards to her porn acting skill, but her actual acting skills, whether she's trying to portray her cutesy self, or a drama role, it comes across as the worst acting. Also, when she talks she comes across as somewhat...slow. But that's just my impression and I don't know much japanese, so how does she actually come across in your professional view?

She doesn't seem too bad, physically she just didn't do it for me. While its not to the extent of darksider59 (LOL btw, brother's friend :lol:), I just think her face and body are weird.
 
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pikuseru

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maria ozawa has always left me cold.
now some of you think she's a man.
if you find out that she's actually a man, let me know.


just don't tell me that rio hamasaki is a man.
i might kill myself.

Rio Hamasaki is not a man. She WAS a man. But obviously she is not a man anymore.
 

Supmop

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I actually find most of the big boob type idols are pretty bad actresses. They look great and all but they seem super passive about any kind of humiliation scenario and only mildly annoyed at being gang r***ing. I actually want to start a thread talking about the best actresses for dramatic roles. The ones who just can't seem to be bothered with acting at all and the ones who do hamster sounds are particularly annoying. It took my awhile to notice cause I rarely get to watch JAV with the volume up, but yeah that's a big dissappointment.

yes those moaning are big dissapointment, especially for people who got real life experiences, girls don't make sound like that when they having sex

today porn (around the world not only in japan) are different from the past, now decent acting skill is not necessary for working in this bussines

if you guys started to watched porn from the 90's might remember Vivid ? Most of the movies they produced has storyline and dialogues, but do you noticed many of those actress and actors can't act ?

so I think why most porn today are gonzo, beside its much more cheaper to produce, its more easy to find the performers too, for making AV with good storyline and dialogue, they need actress and actor who have decent acting skill, and its mean selection became very limited
 
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paparoach408

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yes those moaning are big dissapointment, especially for people who got real life experiences, girls don't make sound like that when they having sex

today porn (around the world not only in japan) are different from the past, now decent acting skill is not necessary for working in this bussines

if you guys started to watched porn from the 90's might remember Vivid ? Most of the movies they produced has storyline and dialogues, but do you noticed many of those actress and actors can't act ?


so I think why most porn today are gonzo, beside its much more cheaper to produce, its more easy to find the performers too, for making AV with good storyline and dialogue, they need actress and actor who have decent acting skill, and its mean selection became very limited

So you say decent acting skill was needed back then, but in the sentence later said a big company like Vivid story based movies with people who couldn't act?

Also i think Gonzo has always been prominent, just thanks to the internet it is easier to access Storyline movies still have popularity in US and Europe, just cost is why Gonzo is prominent.

Also the majority of AV has bad storylines, and people who can't act and with people like Julia constantly getting jobs means that acting is pretty irrelevant.
 

Inertia

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pararoach408: At least in the states, porn seemed to start with actual full blown movies (think Deepthroat and Debbie Does Dallas and maybe even Caligula) that just happened to have actual hardcore sex. What counted as obscenity back then and now is way different so studios in the 70's and 80's and maybe even 90's couldn't just release gonzo titles without serious legal setbacks hence the stories with crappy acting. With porn acceptance more mainstream than decades past, you can get away with showing hardcore with little to zero story while sleeping easy knowing you won't be tried for obscenity.
 

Supmop

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So you say decent acting skill was needed back then, but in the sentence later said a big company like Vivid story based movies with people who couldn't act?

Also i think Gonzo has always been prominent, just thanks to the internet it is easier to access Storyline movies still have popularity in US and Europe, just cost is why Gonzo is prominent.

Also the majority of AV has bad storylines, and people who can't act and with people like Julia constantly getting jobs means that acting is pretty irrelevant.

sorry I make you confuse :oops:

I mean in the golden era of porn in the 70s, when they shooting porn with the same equipment like mainstream movies (film not video cam), at that time many of the actress has decent acting skill, and decent cinematography, some of the actress are real movie actress that did hardcore stuff

but later porn start using videos not film anymore, and more rare for real movie actress did porn, Vivid still trying to make porn with storyline but they don't have actress and actors who have good enough acting skill, so compare to the 70s they look like acting class

I agree majority of AV has bad storylines, most of the goodies that I know was from the 70s - mid 80s
 
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Supmop

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pararoach408: At least in the states, porn seemed to start with actual full blown movies (think Deepthroat and Debbie Does Dallas and maybe even Caligula) that just happened to have actual hardcore sex. What counted as obscenity back then and now is way different so studios in the 70's and 80's and maybe even 90's couldn't just release gonzo titles without serious legal setbacks hence the stories with crappy acting. With porn acceptance more mainstream than decades past, you can get away with showing hardcore with little to zero story while sleeping easy knowing you won't be tried for obscenity.

thats it what I talking about :)

and Alpha France in Europe. for people who like watching porn, you guys should watch their products ;)

in the 70s people make erotic film with additional hardcore sex actions, while now its just porn
 
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BDrake

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I'll bite: Hibiki Otsuki. As she's progressed in her career, she comes off more and more as an android trying to emulate a Japanese AV star. I don't mean this with her physical appearance (she's very pretty and has a unique look!), but her mannerisms and how she speaks.

I thought she'd be something more special years ago, but yeah I'm with ya there.
 

BDrake

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Shion Utsuwhatever/Rion, all she has is nice boobs and nothing else

Julia-When she debuted she was a horrible performer, i tried for years to have interest in her but meh

Acky- She's a legend, and i had nearly 10 years worth of videos from her, but never got off to any of it it

Tia
Kirara Asuka

Rion - Definitely
Julia - Agree

We're already talked about Tia, so no need to repeat.
 

BDrake

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I'm totally agree with your opinions here, I think Tia was better in her early career as Meisa Kurokawa, back then she look like eurasian, but her current face shown a fake eurasian

I didn't know she had another alias?? Any links to these better videos? Were her tits fake back then too?

you are the 2nd people after BDrake that I read that he noticed Aika don't shown enthusiasm, seems its her style, or she can't pretend to feel pleasure when she get fuck by tiny dick or skill less partner

Everyone else can. That's why they're ACTORS. Women may not like a person in a Hollywood movie, but they need to act like it to sell the movie.
 

Supmop

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I didn't know she had another alias?? Any links to these better videos? Were her tits fake back then too?

RKI-109
NHDTA-014

for her tits I think it was better when she still Meisa Kurokawa, but I don't know its real or fake, I only watched her 1x in NHDTA-014

sorry I don't have download links for those 2 movies

Everyone else can. That's why they're ACTORS. Women may not like a person in a Hollywood movie, but they need to act like it to sell the movie.

yes, seemed she can't pretend to feel pleasure
 
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