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SLR is pushing to get JAV VR content shown DRM-free and you're attacking them? Studios in Japan nor DMM, Afesta, etc are not non-profit ventures you know.

The problem with shooting close is also because the picture quality is not as good. JAV studios mainly are using the same cameras western studios use, but in spite of being able to shoot in 6K, they stop at 4K due to DMM's draconian file size restrictions.
Many titles even from the biggest studios are plagued with stereo/alignment issues as well. SLR fixes this all to the best of their ability before publishing the movies.

The other problem is making money in Japan with VR is almost a ticking time bomb of sorts due to phone support dwindling. 50%+ of users in Japan are still watching via phones whereas in the west you can switch that with dedicated devices.

SLR is a business venture, yes, but they actually really do care about making great VR. I was with the owner and his #2 in Tokyo a few months ago and that guy loves VR. I mean really, really loves VR.
 
Please, for the love of god.... don't mess with the Japanese producers. They're leaps and bounds ahead of western producers when it comes to making truly immersive content. I can't even watch western VR anymore due to it's insistence on using the same tired old unrealistic positions, and entirely fake actors. I appreciate what SLR is doing to help promote VR, but the JAV content on the site doesn't at all reflect what can be obtained from Japan. Most good new titles are made up of several files totaling as much as 40 GB, and are of much higher quality than those on SLR. The JAV titles on SLR all look like what was available 2 or more years ago on afesta.tv. Maybe they don't have access to the studios producing better quality content? Maybe, there's technological limitations to the streaming format?

"Biggest issue with JAV VR we've seen is that they're shooting just too darn close"

Holy shit.... no, not true. Biggest issue with Western VR is they shoot too darn far. Western producers for the most part seem to be pushing typical mainstream porn scenarios using this new technology, when they could be doing something really groundbreaking.

"The other problem is making money in Japan with VR is almost a ticking time bomb of sorts due to phone support dwindling."

If anyone knows how to profit from the adult film industry, it's the Japanese. I don't think we need to worry this. They'll adapt without our interference.

"A big offender would be the cowgirl position when you can only see the girl's face down to her belly button without having to move your head.
You should be able to see some of the penetration as well from the 'default' view."

I love when they do this. It seems much more realistic and immersive. I wish Western producers would do it more often. Really, when you're with a woman... how much time do you spend looking down at her pussy?

It's funny, just the other day I was thinking it would be nice if some Japanese VR producers went to the US to help get their heads out of their asses.
 
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Inertia said:
SLR is pushing to get JAV VR content shown DRM-free and you're attacking them? Studios in Japan nor DMM, Afesta, etc are not non-profit ventures you know.

The problem with shooting close is also because the picture quality is not as good. JAV studios mainly are using the same cameras western studios use, but in spite of being able to shoot in 6K, they stop at 4K due to DMM's draconian file size restrictions.
Many titles even from the biggest studios are plagued with stereo/alignment issues as well. SLR fixes this all to the best of their ability before publishing the movies.

The other problem is making money in Japan with VR is almost a ticking time bomb of sorts due to phone support dwindling. 50%+ of users in Japan are still watching via phones whereas in the west you can switch that with dedicated devices.

SLR is a business venture, yes, but they actually really do care about making great VR. I was with the owner and his #2 in Tokyo a few months ago and that guy loves VR. I mean really, really loves VR.
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I also spend a lot of time in Japan due to family, and business clients located there. I can only guess the owners you've met with might be some rather interesting characters... and.. um, well connected. ;)
Now, instead of pressuring them to alter their current content to mirror what's typically made in the US, if you could in any way pave the way to make any uncensored content available at all.... you guys would be rock stars. I know it's illegal, and perhaps impossible.... but, one can dream ;)
 
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I’m not attacking anything. And they aren’t pushing on behalf of humanity, of course they’re doing it so they can provide it on their sites, that’s already been established, because in the West DRM is practically unheard of. I completely understand that SLR isn’t getting into this with the studios for a fee to simply make things better for the Japanese market and leave when the job is done. I get that. And there’s nothing wrong with that from a purely business point of view, I think as a general action it will only help. My concern is that in doing so they will without a doubt at some point alter the way those particular studios design the concept for their JAV VR experiences. Not to mention the actresses taking cues from the stuff they’ll get to see as “examples” and we lose the cute sexy awesomeness and their charm. As has been stated time and again the West has nothing on the JAV industry in terms of pure original fun making in adult entertainment. They just don’t. JAV (from these studios) turning into just more Western fare with Japanese actors is where I think this will lead.

But I pray that lover of VR you speak of will only allow technical influence and nothing more.
 
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I am european, but If 95% of VR porn I watch is JAV porn, it is because I don't like how western companies film porn (european, USA companies).

It has no passion, it is rude, it is too direct "come here, let's fuck"... and the cameras are too far away. When I watch a Western VR porn the girls are two meters away, it its like watching a standard film on a big screen. That is not virtual reality. It is standard porn in first person perspective.

JAV VR porn is much more intimate, personal, private. The girls are polite, affectionate, warm. And they are closer to the camera, you feel they are there with you, I don't feel it with western VR porn. Jav is real virtual reality, western VR is just standard porn on a big screen.

JAV companies don't need any advices from western filmakers, thanks. The same companies that promote big disgusting fake tits, nasty piercings and ugly tatoos...

JAV VR porn is unique and wonderful, I hope western companies don't contaminate it.

And for the quality of the films, I use Samsung Odyssey Plus so I need 4K films or more, with more bitrate, I agree with you on that.. But I have 4K JAV films that look better than 6K western films I have from VR Bangers and others... Western VR films look better overall, it is true, but It doesn't mean you need to change the position of the camera or how japanese filmakers work. You only need to add more resolution and more bitrate, or fix technical problems. Not to change JAV VR porn.
 
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"A big offender would be the cowgirl position when you can only see the girl's face down to her belly button without having to move your head.
You should be able to see some of the penetration as well from the 'default' view."

I just re-read this... and it now makes even less sense. How would your assertion even be possible in real life? Where you're looking at the girl's face, and can somehow see penetration at the same time without moving your head? If you've got an extremely long torso, and the girl is leaning back? I'm going to try it out this evening, and report back. Sounds like BS to me.
 
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I am european, but If 95% of VR porn I watch is JAV porn, it is because I don't like how western companies film porn (european, USA companies).

It has no passion, it is rude, it is too direct "come here, let's fuck"... and the cameras are too far away. When I watch a Western VR porn the girls are two meters away, it its like watching a standard film in a big screen. That is not virtual reality. It is standard porn in first person perspective.

JAV VR porn is much more intimate, personal, private. The girls are educated, affectionate, warm. And they are closer to the camera, you feel they are there with you, I don't feel it with western VR porn. Jav is real virtual reality, western VR is just standard porn on a big screen.

JAV companies don't need any advices from western filmakers, thanks. The same companies that promote big disgusting fake tits, nasty piercings and ugly tatoos...

JAV VR porn is unique and wonderful, I hope western companies don't contaminate it.

And for the quality of the films, I use Samsung Odyssey Plus so I need 4K films or more, with more bitrate, I agree with you on that.. But I have 4K JAV films that look better than 6K western films I have from VR Bangers and others... Western VR films looks better overall, it is true, but It doesn't mean you need to change the position of the camera or how japanese filmakers work. You only need to add more resolution and more bitrate, or fix technical problems. Not to change JAV VR porn.
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I agree with everything you've said..... 100%.
 
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Haha.... thank you Casshern. I hope my criticism wasn't too harsh. But, the thought of some of my favorite Japanese VR studios trying to emulate western porn is a bit disappointing. What's interesting, is that I'm not a huge fan of a lot of JAV that consists of guys poking and prodding at girls while they squeal/squeak in embarrassment and shame. Somehow, some of the VR producers have managed to come up with content that feels like you're having a very real, and at times bordering on tantric, experience with real girls. Western studios should take note.
 
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For the cowgirl comment, the problem arises that in some content it's filmed so closely that the girl appears larger than life. Realism is one thing, having sex with a giantess though isn't every man's fantasy. ;)
So the advice there isn't to drastically change their setup, but to simply move the camera back like 2 CM. That's it.

SLR has zero intention of giving creative advice to JAV studios. They just want to help them shoot technically superior content.

Among JAV fans, JAV VR is very popular, but it finds far less traction across the western world due in part to technical failings.

And as for DRM, we're weaning studios off of it slowly, but surely. CasanovA, the 2nd or 3rd largest VR maker in terms of release quantity, has DRM-free downloads at SLR. WAAP, Dream Ticket, PetersMAX also are currently DRM-free.

Even bigger makers like KMP and SOD have told us they may be OK with going DRM-free for older releases in the future. We need to take this slowly.
 
"So the advice there isn't to drastically change their setup, but to simply move the camera back like 2 CM. That's it."

I think that's debatable. Yes, most of the studios seemed to have scaling problems in the beginning. The better ones have eliminated this while managing to film even closer. The studios you mention, with the exception of KMP and SOD, still have these problems, as well as poor quality video. So, if that's your frame of reference, I guess I can understand where you're going with this. However, I still don't think making changes to more closely emulate what's going on in western VR is the answer. Have you watched say, the last 10-20 releases from SOD? Or, SIVR? I could name half a dozen others as well, whose content and quality has far surpassed what's available from the majority of western producers. They're actually filming closer... and, it makes a huge difference as far as realism.
 
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"Among JAV fans, JAV VR is very popular, but it finds far less traction across the western world due in part to technical failings."

I think this has more to do with language difference, and censorship rather than technical failings. Some, people just can't around this.
 
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Yes, I think so, too. In JAV they are talking all the time, and if you don't understand japanese... But the main reason is that it is censored. Not that the camera is closer...
 
So I have enough extra money saved up to finally buy the Quest or Go. I couldn't find a concrete guide for this online, so thought who else better to ask than you guys. Before I drop the money I was wondering how does one get the torrented porn video on the system and how troublesome is it? Also just to double check, these systems do come with headphone jacks, correct?

I saw people mention using your PC as streaming media player or using plex? That to me feels like it will 100% take a hit in quality when watching.
 
Both Quest and Go have headphone jacks.

I don't store any videos on the Oculus device at all. You'll want to install a video client on the Oculus that supports streaming from a network share (NAS, or folder on PC) via UPnP/DLNA. There are several available. I use Skybox, and it works very well. There shouldn't be any degradation in quality if you have a solid WiFi network.

On the PC or NAS, you'll want to install some sort of UPnP/DLNA server application that will allow your files to be be discovered and streamed by your Oculus. Plex, Kodi, Emby, as well as host of others work fine. It looks like you can even enable this in Windows 10 without installing any software. I haven't tried this yet, but will do that and report back.
https://winaero.com/blog/how-to-enable-dlna-server-in-windows-10/

Even easier, you can install the SLR app, and legally stream video directly to your Oculus without having to download anything ;) You can pay per video, or subscribe monthly. It's not too expensive, and makes available thousands of titles in different genres.
https://www.sexlikereal.com/slr-app
 
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Popodog, VR porn fans overall are more computer savvy and sure, many in the west hate the pixels (can't be avoided), but SLR gets a lot of complaints about the technical quality of JAV movies compared to the west.
 
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Both Quest and Go have headphone jacks.

I don't store any videos on the Oculus device at all. You'll want to install a video client on the Oculus that supports streaming from a network share (NAS, or folder on PC) via UPnP/DLNA. There are several available. I use Skybox, and it works very well. There shouldn't be any degradation in quality if you have a solid WiFi network.

On the PC or NAS, you'll want to install some sort of UPnP/DLNA server application that will allow your files to be be discovered and streamed by your Oculus. Plex, Kodi, Emby, as well as host of others work fine. It looks like you can even enable this in Windows 10 without installing any software. I haven't tried this yet, but will do that and report back.
https://winaero.com/blog/how-to-enable-dlna-server-in-windows-10/

Even easier, you can install the SLR app, and legally stream video directly to your Oculus without having to download anything ;) You can pay per video, or subscribe monthly. It's not too expensive, and makes available thousands of titles in different genres.
https://www.sexlikereal.com/slr-app
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Thank you for this write up. I know you stated you don't store any videos in your device, but is there anything wrong with that? I hear user not doing it. Wouldn't it be the simple route? Drag and drop the file into your VR headset when connected to the computer via USB then just play the video on whatever video players you have downloaded on it?

Unless you can set up a password secure server/folder that is accessible over wifi, I can't do that since I share the wifi.

SLR is basically like a subscription porn site, right? Akin to something like Brazzers or BangBros, etc... just with VR porn? Unless I really like the content I don't think I'd subscribe.
 
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I love jav vr porn they have great camera position, real intimacy and great quality.

The few things i think stops people from getting into it : its in japanese and its censored.

BJ scenes are worthless to me.. whats the point if you basically cant see the girls face while shes doing it? Also i love asses so i almost get mad when theres awesome asses put in your face in vr... but its censored! What a freaking waste of potential. When they did those stupid censorship laws they never envisioned vr porn. Every member of the japanese diet should be forced to watch a couple of hours of censored vr porn with almost only censored POV then shown like 10 minutes of uncensored western vr porn and realize how stupid those laws are for VR. Keep your stupid law for 2d porn if you want but amend it for VR ffs! It would also help foreign sales and help japan economy.

And people complaining about SLR jav porn quality... arent the ones on SLR right now old titles from like 3 years ago when vr porn was starting?

As a side note... anyone tried to uncensor VR porn like they do on 2d porn or its too high resolution to give a good result?
 
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Every member of the japanese diet should be forced to watch a couple of hours of censored vr porn with almost only censored POV then shown like 10 minutes of uncensored western vr porn and realize how stupid those laws are for VR.
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If they saw Western porn they'd probably be so horrified they'd INCREASE the censorship. It's all horrible tats, disgusting cosmetic surgery, and blown out vaginas.
 
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