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Casshern2

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That certainly is a nice lineup! 200 minutes!? The bandwidth I tell you! :confused:o_O
I think the "problem", if it can be called that, with JAV VR is the push, need, desire the directors and probably more so the producers have to make heavy content instead of plentiful content. These titles coming out that are even 60 minutes long let alone 200 are way bigger than even hours long FHD titles. They have to be due to the dimensions and bitrate, mind you. 120 minutes at 6000kbps for an FHD title, depending on content can be between 5-6 GB give or take. The last BIG title I got was the Hitomi VR title MDVR-092 which came in all in all at 39.6GB for right at 3 hours of content (2:55:10).

Granted, at 4K 4320x2160 60FPS 32.5 Mbps the smallest scene of 14 minutes by itself was 3.26 GB. That's basically a full 90 minute FHD Idol title, pretty much. I'd much rather have smaller scenes for these titles, that way they can keep VR going for a very long time! That would help gain more interest, no? So, say your favorite star, we'll take Hitomi and this title as an example, they could have filmed all the scenes, there are 8 here, and released them two at a time each month for 4 months. Letting the fans salivate each coming month for more content. This title is 1280 Yen currently, that's less then $12 USD. By comparison, a random newer title KIWVR-151 is only 65 minutes (1:05:00) and costs the same 1280 Yen. Don't get me wrong, I'm like you and would rather pay the same amount for more content, but, the size is just a bit too much to take, IMO.
 

Walle12

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I don't understand your argument... They are giving you 200 minutes for 12 dollars and you are asking to pay more in parts??!!

If the bandwidth is a problem for you... Well, download it scene by a scene in different days... The releases are divided into scenes, even in legal stores (at least at A Festa where I have bought some titles). You don't need to download it all at the same time... If they sell the full release in parts you are going to pay more and download the same...

If you download from Akiba or similar the only problem is Filejoker and its outdated 10GB per day limit, but there are services that let you download 50 GB per day. And if you buy legally, yo don't have limits to download.

VR needs the best image quality so I don't mind to download big files. But please don't reduce image quality and bitrate even more because that will kill VR. Almost all companies have already reduced bitrate a lot in 2020.
 

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I don't understand your argument... They are giving you 200 minutes for 12 dollars and you are asking to pay more in parts??!!

I actually said nothing of the kind:
Don't get me wrong, I'm like you and would rather pay the same amount for more content

the directors and probably more so the producers have to make heavy content instead of plentiful content

You surely don't understand my argument :D If you look, right now you can buy non-VR compilation titles for, often times, less than first run standard titles. Here is a recent example:

PYM-346 480 minutes - 2480Yen
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MIBB-003 140 minutes - 3300Yen
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Both released on the same day. As you can see, depending on what you want to buy, we already pay more for less content, I don't hear much about that fact. Someone buying MIBB-003 could surely wait until some of that title's scenes are in a 480 minute compilation later to get the "best deal", but, this stuff is immediate for most! In terms of need/want. My point was for studios to hopefully make shorter length content and use the model they have highlighted above which has worked since forever. The buying public has yet to force them to change that model I'm thinking because no one minds or cares.

And haven't we already proven that companies aren't reducing bitrate? Or did we find one that was?
 

Walle12

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I actually said nothing of the kind
Well, you said:
we'll take Hitomi and this title as an example, they could have filmed all the scenes, there are 8 here, and released them two at a time each month for 4 months. Letting the fans salivate each coming month for more content. This title is 1280 Yen currently, that's less then $12 USD. By comparison, a random newer title KIWVR-151 is only 65 minutes (1:05:00) and costs the same 1280 Yen
What I understand here it is that you propose to divide the 8 scenes of 200 minutes into several parts, saying that other films of 65 minutes cost the same. But if they divide 8 scenes in 4 parts, each part won't cost 3 dollars, they'll cost more, so you'll pay more for the same content. It is what SexLikeReal do, they sell scenes from full films more expensive than the whole film at other stores.

I can't understand what is the problem with 8 scenes for 12 dollars... if it is the bandwidth as you say, then don't download at the same time, you can donwload scenes individually in different days...

And haven't we already proven that companies aren't reducing bitrate? Or did we find one that was?

Yes, I have bought a KVR title and a CRVR title at A Festa from 2020 and they both have 30 Mbps of bitrate. But the CRVR and KVR titles from 2019, even from 2018, have 40 Mbps of Bitrate.
 
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I saw that there is a VR title of one of my all time favorite actress Sarasa Hara anyone has news about it or links or torrents or anything?? even just the title/code would be much appreciated
 

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If you download the image, the name has the code.
 
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Casshern2

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Well, you said:

What I understand here it is that you propose to divide the 8 scenes of 200 minutes into several parts, saying that other films of 65 minutes cost the same. But if they divide 8 scenes in 4 parts, each part won't cost 3 dollars, they'll cost more, so you'll pay more for the same content. It is what SexLikeReal do, they sell scenes from full films more expensive than the whole film at other stores.

I can't understand what is the problem with 8 scenes for 12 dollars... if it is the bandwidth as you say, then don't download at the same time, you can donwload scenes individually in different days...



Yes, I have bought a KVR title and a CRVR title at A Festa from 2020 and they both have 30 Mbps of bitrate. But the CRVR and KVR titles from 2019, even from 2018, have 40 Mbps of Bitrate.
I guess I like being fooled. For the sake of keeping interest and things going with JAV VR, I'm saying it wouldn't bother me, because we wouldn't be the wiser, if say the Hitomi title were filmed as fewer scenes in different settings in different outfits all at once, but marketed as separate titles and released at different times. No single 3 hour VR movie, but, three 1 hour movies. For 1280Yen each like we are all already doing! LOL Marketing-wise, for me, that makes sense for the studios to get more money so they can make more content, AND I would hope and think that when they see customers come back for more of a star again and again they know to keep producing with them. Hitomi, again as an example, has been in JAV forever, has tons of titles...and only TWO that are VR. By comparison, new stars have plenty and more to come. Like Kanna Shinozaki.

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Well, NOW I understand you... :)

You started talking about the bandwidth and then about to divide the big releases, and that confused me. I thought it was about a bandwidth problem.

Now that you have explained a little better ;) (o maybe english it is not my native language and I am slow undestanding things, sorry), I say yes, you are right :). It is better to film three one-hour releases with different settings and different outfits than one 3-hour release with the same setting and scenes. Most of the 8 scenes of the Hitomi's movie are almost the same.

But I suppose that, with VR, the budget is very tight...
 

Casshern2

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Well, NOW I understand you... :)

You started talking about the bandwidth and then about to divide the big releases, and that confused me. I thought it was about a bandwidth problem.

Now that you have explained a little better ;) (o maybe english it is not my native language and I am slow undestanding things, sorry), I say yes, you are right :). It is better to film three one-hour releases with different settings and different outfits than one 3-hour release with the same setting and scenes. Most of the 8 scenes of the Hitomi's movie are almost the same.

But I suppose that, with VR, the budget is very tight...
Oh, I blame myself entirely! I did a really bad job explaining myself! :D
 
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Walle12

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DSVR-715, HNVR-025 and PRVR-019 are my choices: beautiful full-nude girls... :D

Still waiting for lesbian and mature releases... :(
 
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How has VR changed your appreciation of an actress? Which actresses are even more beautiful after seeing them "up close" in VR and which actresses were great disappointments (bad skin, poor boob job, etc.)?

Here is my list (I love perfect skin):

Even better:

Mayuki Ito, Marin Hinata, Mitsuki Nagisa, Ichika Matsumoto, Minori Kawana, Nono Yuki, Sakura Miura, Shuri Atomi, Iroha Natsume

Worse:

Rika Omi, Touka Rinne, Saeko Matsushita, Eimi Fukada, Rin Sasahara
 
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Does anyone know what happened with Prestige? They were releasing VR titles until mid-2019 under the label PRDVR, but suddenly they stopped.

Is Prestige releasing VR titles under other label? Any chances to see more VR titles with Suzumori Remu or Nagase Minamo?

It's quite disappointing. We only got two videos with Sakino Ito and who knows when Minamo and Asuna are going to retire. I was hoping they were just re-tooling but it looks the studio has made a business decision to quit VR.
 
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Casshern2

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It's quite disappointing. We only got two videos with Sakino Ito and who knows when Minamo and Asuna are going to retire. I was hoping they were just re-tooling but it looks the studio has made a business decision to quit VR.
They stopped in September of 2019 at 47 titles.
 

Walle12

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It's quite disappointing. We only got two videos with Sakino Ito and who knows when Minamo and Asuna are going to retire. I was hoping they were just re-tooling but it looks the studio has made a business decision to quit VR.
Yes, it is very dissappointing. Prestige has a lot of stunning exclusive girls and we are missing them in VR... :(

But people are interested in their movies... 10 days ago A Festa VR made a sale of VR Prestige titles and they sold very well, they topped the ranking of global sales. One of them with the wonderful Suzumori Remu is still at Number 6 after a week...

I hope they return to VR... :tolong:

How has VR changed your appreciation of an actress? Which actresses are even more beautiful after seeing them "up close" in VR and which actresses were great disappointments (bad skin, poor boob job, etc.)?
For me almost all the actresses are even more beautiful in VR because they are more real and close. Even I love their imperfections because they are real women, not plastic dolls with tons of makeup, fake tits and piercings like in western porn. I don't mind if their skin is not perfect or they are a little obese, or their tits are not perfect, because you feel them like real women. This is the magic of VR. You are not watching a porn film on a little flat screen, your are feeling real women with real size a few centimeters from you. And real women are not perfect (most of them at least).

What I can't stand is fake tits. They are a complete turn off for me. For example, Eimi Fukada. She is a beautiful girl with perfect skin but her fake tits are horrible. I haven't watched a single VR movie of Eimi Fukada (only one until I discovered the fake tits). And she has filmed dozens of VR movies...
 
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