Immersive 3D Content and Enthusiasts (oh boy...)

[wares]

Hi all. Bit of help again. After reading some of the posts on here I've installed some other players to my quest to see how good they are. Hersphere and Skybox. They are available in my Quest applications but they aren't available in the library when I use Oculus link. Can anyone tell me if there's a way to move them across or can I get sidequest to install them to my Oculus library?

The way you describe your problem is hard for me to follow. So it's hard for me to tell what you are trying to do. Suffice to say that Heresphere is only available via Steam VR. And Sidequest is for installing applications directly onto your Quest. Those applications are android applications though, not PC applications (which is what Steam VR uses). To use the PC games you need to use Link, Air Link or Virtual Desktop. If you install (android) apps onto your Quest you can run them natively without a PC.

If you want Skybox installed on your Quest buy it here: https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2063931653705427/
Personally I prefer Pigasus https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2436667223120459/ when I'm not using Heresphere tethered to my PC.

 

[wares]

have you been able to play with the settings of this player? I am still trying to figure out to optimize the video to get rid of all distortions. The player has a step by step instruction, but the learning curse is still pretty steep.

I did play with the settings, but not enough to help anyone through them. The learning curve is super hard. But the results are great. The roll support is night and day better. It's amazing how slightly leaning your head really messes with the parallax and your brain strains on ALL the other players to compensate but with Heresphere your brain can relax as you lean/roll your head. The player even lets you select the camera that was used to shoot the video! I essentially STUCK the settings to a specific studio that Pigasus doesn't support and leave them there. That studio is SLR and it is because they output 200º FOV videos that only DeoVR can play properly. All the other native Quest players only support 180º and not 200º. And I don't want to use DeoVR for them.

I don't like DeoVR - any app that doesn't charge money for a product that takes a lot of work worries me ever since I found "Moon VR player" on my old Gear VR was installing trojans onto people's computers as part of their "companion app" for streaming directly to the player. I have no proof that DeoVR is doing anything shady (I do have proof that Moon VR was), but it worries me enough that I''m willing to pay for a good video player.

 

[doggyfong]

Is this a recent photo? this seems like the zcam k1 pro. On reddit their was a recent on set photo from hitomis shooting last week and some guys analyzed the camera set (it were two Panasonic GH2S cams).

Its from early 2020
Probably outdated technology.

 

[tim-o-tea]

I hope it will be soon, but I don't have much faith

Western studios let many people think that there are dozens of 8k cameras on the market. While there are some cameras, none of the MFT cameras (like Panasonic GH2s which Moodyz is obviously using) is able to capture 8k, let alone at 60fps. And its understandable as apart from VR there arent a lot of usecases for 8k yet.

Even CzechVR is recording at 30fps and they interpolate it in the editing, which is quite difficult without messing it up. Heres an interview with them
https://vrporncat.com/a-look-at-8k-vr-porn/

Interestingly Izugar is working on a special VR180 lens that can be used with just one camera. Combined with a Blackmagic Mini Pro 12k ($10.000) you could record 11k 60fps or 8k@120fps.
https://360rumors.com/izugar-svr-vr180-lens/

I did play with the settings, but not enough to help anyone through them. The learning curve is super hard. But the results are great. The roll support is night and day better. It's amazing how slightly leaning your head really messes with the parallax and your brain strains on ALL the other players to compensate but with Heresphere your brain can relax as you lean/roll your head. The player even lets you select the camera that was used to shoot the video! I essentially STUCK the settings to a specific studio that Pigasus doesn't support and leave them there. That studio is SLR and it is because they output 200º FOV videos that only DeoVR can play properly. All the other native Quest players only support 180º and not 200º. And I don't want to use DeoVR for them.

I don't like DeoVR - any app that doesn't charge money for a product that takes a lot of work worries me ever since I found "Moon VR player" on my old Gear VR was installing trojans onto people's computers as part of their "companion app" for streaming directly to the player. I have no proof that DeoVR is doing anything shady (I do have proof that Moon VR was), but it worries me enough that I''m willing to pay for a good video player.

Unfortunately studios are not sharing what lenses they use for shooting(for obvious reasons), so its kind of a guessing game i suppose. Settings are really overwhelming, so i hope the developer is sharing some sample configurations on corrected videos to see the effect. My own attempts have been rather unsuccessful.

Regarding DeoVR, i dont think there is any spyware, its rather that there is a possiblity that DeoVR is closely tied to SLR. Both companies are based in Ljubljana Slovenia and if you google you can find some connections between both companies.

It makes sense as SLR is basically using that player, so i would be suprised if SLR if funding most of it.

Its from early 2020
Probably outdated technology.

I watched that movie you posted before (MDVR-151) and in the first part you can see their rig and it still looks the same.

 

[Walle12]

Now that we are talking about tech... What is happening with the IPD of JAV VR?

I have a high IPD (69 mm) and I am very sensitive to the IPD that the movies are recorded. I suppose the VR movies are filmed with a fixed IPD of around 65 mm so in most of the movies I see the girls like giants, I need to zoom out or adjust other options. But in the last two months I have noticed that in labels like KAVR, CBIKMV or SoD (DSVR) the girls look even bigger so I suppose they have reduced the IPD. Why???

 

[tim-o-tea]

Now that we are talking about tech... What is happening with the IPD of JAV VR?

I have a high IPD (69 mm) and I am very sensitive to the IPD that the movies are recorded. I suppose the VR movies are filmed with a fixed IPD of around 65 mm so in most of the movies I see the girls like giants, I need to zoom out or adjust other options. But in the last two months I have noticed that in labels like KAVR, CBIKMV or SoD (DSVR) the girls look even bigger so I suppose they have reduced the IPD. Why???

Thats interesting to hear. I didnt notice any change to the scaling recently, at least with my IPD. Could you give some examples (preferably from KAVR or SOD)?

As studios often outsource their productions to different production teams its not unsual to have different quality/scaling throughout the same studio. Some indication is the director of the movie (you can find that information on the japanese DMM page of the movie, or on javlibrary.com (sometimes information is missing there though)).

So maybe studios are working with different directors in the last month?

Have you been able to try Heresphere yet? I heard people had much better scaling even when they just set their IPD in the player. I know that other players have that setting too, but it never had any effect on me.

 

[Walle12]

Thats interesting to hear. I didnt notice any change to the scaling recently, at least with my IPD. Could you give some examples (preferably from KAVR or SOD)?

Almost all KAVR or SoD releases in the last 3 or 4 months. For example KAVR-150, DSVR-917, DSVR-811, DSVR-928... The same with SIVR, like SIVR-104. Or the lastest Prestige titles, like PRDVR-048 and PRDVR-050. The girls look much bigger than releases from 2020 with the same studios.

Have you been able to try Heresphere yet? I heard people had much better scaling even when they just set their IPD in the player.

I tried the demo, but I don't understand a thing... Too complicate. I tried the IPD option, with no effect. I'll try again with more time.

 

[juulplums]

I want your recommendations for good videos with amazon position scenes, preferably with the gal being dominant too. Don't care how old the video is. VRKM-183 if you don't know what I mean, but Hasumi Claire's bolt-ons are such a turn off. I'll settle for search terms or pegging/strap-on vids since those usually end up with an amazon scene or some other vanilla dom action in them too.

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I don't want to just ask without contributing some recs of my own either, so:

Sakura Mana in 3DSVR-0852 is perfection. She works up a sweat halfway through video A or B and there's something so hot about it. I've yet to see any 2021 JAV VR that I enjoy as much. Looks like she's got fresh scars on her arms though...girl you're a fucking dime piece firecracker, get some help for that メンヘラ if you need it.

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And for Western VR fans, Anna de Ville is one of a few American actresses I've seen recently that seems to be into it and not completely phoning in how hard she's hamming it up for the camera. And she's a fucking freak. Someone mentioned CzechVR above and I know she's done a few videos for them.

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Any DeoVR users realize that lately having DirectShow enabled causes huge frame dips, like down to 30-40 FPS? I was already extra salty that they updated it to default to their stupid online browser.

I don't normally enable it, but for videos that have "VR180 spatial metadata" embedded in the MP4, if DirectShow is disabled the video looks extremely distorted/stretched, as if you're seeing half of one eye squished up or something. Not sure what that metadata is actually called, but it's the difference between videos that e.g. load up in VLC as 360/VR and allow you to pan around, like Google VR180/360 videos do, and videos that just show up flat and full res.

I suppose I could "fix" those files with an FFMPEG batch command to copy them to a new MP4 or MKV file that should strip those tags, but that would take forever and gobble up a bunch of extra hard drive space in the meantime.

Radeon RX 5700 and Samsung Odyssey+. If anyone has any suggestions for other PC VR players that will always fully make use of an AMD GPU's hardware video decoding, LMK. Got an ancient 2600K that pretty much cannot handle >4K AVC or >=4K HEVC in software.

 

[Walle12]

Hasumi Claire's bolt-ons are such a turn off.

The same for me. I hate fake tits and I don't download any video with fake tits, if I can distinguish them. Sometimes is difficult. I haven't watched any Hasume Claire VR because of this.

recommendations for good videos with amazon position scenes,

I am not sure what is "amazon position". I know, the girl sitting over the man, but with the man laying or sitting? is it different from the cowgirl position? I prefer both sitting because the girl is closer.

VRKM-064 is awesome, and Ayaka Mochizuki is a little dominant, too... And she sweats...

And KBVR-067, with the cute Suzu Monami.

Look for the fisheye versions, they are much better.

She works up a sweat halfway through video A or B and there's something so hot about it.

I like sweated girls, but there is so little sweat in JAV VR... In a lot of scenes you see the girl sweating, and the next second she is dry... They cut the scene and wipe away the sweat...

Looks like she's got fresh scars on her arms though

I have seen dozens of girls in VR with provoked cuts in their arms or legs. Dozens... It is worrying.... Porn is a difficult job, some people forget it...

If anyone has any suggestions for other PC VR players that will always fully make use of an AMD GPU's hardware video decoding, LMK

I have Samsung Odyssey + too, with a GTX 1070. I use Whirligig and Virtual Home Theater players, they use hardware decoding with NVIDIA, but I don't know if it works with AMD.

 

[hooters666]

Guys,

Great sharing here on VR goodies...Totally appreciated.

I like to up my VR enjoyment and would like some recommendation on mastabating toys that can sync with my basic Oculus.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Walle12]

The problem with these synchronized toys is that you need to use the native player of the stores, and all of them are crap, with poor imagy quality and zero personalization.

A toy levels up the experience, but it is better to use a desynchronized toy, with your own favorite player.

 

[hooters666]

Thanks and noted

Any recommendations for boy toys pls?

 

[tim-o-tea]

I dont have any first hand ( ) experience but from what i read "The Handy" supposed to be the best. It also seems to be the one with the easiest setup, as its supposed to work without an additional app/software straight out of DeoVR.
CzechVR has an pretty detailed guide https://www.czechvrnetwork.com/help-teledildonics-tutorial

If you are looking for JAV its gonna be more difficult. On various script forums / pay sites you can find a handful of JAV scripts but most of them are pretty old movies. Afesta is selling quite a lot of scenes with toy support but you have to use their Dimension player. Also i am not sure if the player works with western toys as the website from afesta only states japanese toys (vorze etc.). There are two Afesta script extractors though (google it), to extract the scripts from Afesta. I dont know if they still work and again if you could make the scripts work with western toys

 

[Walle12]

As I said before, I don't know if it is because the coronavirus, but in the last months I think the JAV VR releases are really mediocre: more and more clothes, camera far away, second-rate girls, the stupid portable camera that now use SIVR and many others with bad resolution, dizzying views that never stands still and is always too far away or too near... Mediocre image quality in almost all labels...

I hope that releases will improve in the coming months.

I have enjoyed only a few titles, and one of them is SAVR-110, because one thing: the no-makeup.

One of the many things I hate from western VR is the make-up. Tons of make-up, those horrible false eyelashes... Almost all girls look like whores.

I like the natural make-up the japanese girls use in JAV VR, so so I have no complaints. But in SAVR-110 Fukada Yuuri doesn't use any makeup (well, a little), and I think it's very erotic, because she looks very natural. Yo can see some skin imperfections, but that's okay because you see her as a real, natural girl. I liked it a lot, I hope they release more VR movies with girls with not (o little) makeup.

Another one I have enjoyed is HNVR-052, this new girl Ryona Hisaka is very cute and the scenes are really good:

 

[Walle12]

A welcome surprise: The beautiful Honjou Suzu returns to VR after two years!!

 

[juulplums]

I like the natural make-up the japanese girls use in JAV VR, so so I have no complaints. But in SAVR-110 Fukada Yuuri doesn't use any makeup (well, a little), and I think it's very erotic, because she looks very natural. Yo can see some skin imperfections, but that's okay because you see her as a real, natural girl. I liked it a lot, I hope they release more VR movies with girls with not (o little) makeup.

Check out SAVR-044 if you like Yui Hatano. It's the only other JAV VR I can recall seeing with no makeup. If it's split into three files, she washes it all off in part B and the sex is all in part C. For the two parter, just download part B. Didn't bother downloading A because it's all banter.

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My favorite JAV hag.

I don't download fake tits

Got a chuckle out of me. I didn't either, but some JAV fake tits are great.

 

[Walle12]

Thanks! I'll check it...

 

[juulplums]

Anybody got any tricks for viewing older AVVR videos, like AVVR-417, without distortion? They range from "distorted perspective" to "I am forever cross-eyed and Ria Kashii is here to eat my soul". Guess that's why we don't see much out of AVVR any more...



I'd be pissed if I'd paid money for them.

The black bars are obviously the problem, or rather players like DeoVR expecting an "equal" 1:1 split between the two halves of the image. The black bar on the left ends up overlaid over the left part of the right eye's image, and vice versa. Unless there was also some kind of camera problem filming them, or some easy way to fix it using a player like Whirligig, I'm going to try re-encoding to fix them. If it works, I might try it on other AVVR videos, but I don't think I will take requests. I'll reply with which of the below end up working if you want to roll your own.

The bars are ~216 pixels wide.

1. Simple crop of the bars, 3408x1920 output
   • Will only work if the image itself wasn't mis-scaled or distorted when output. Seems most likely, but what do I know.
2. Trying to do the same thing by remuxing to an MKV and just setting cropping parameters of 216,0,216,0.
   • It probably won't work with most VR playback apps, if it works with any of them, and I don't feel like testing compatibility.
3. Crop the bars, downscale to 2:1, 3408x1704 output
   • You "lose" some detail by downscaling from 1920 height to 1704. The original file itself isn't exactly AFesta 4K Takumi quality...
4. Crop the bars, upscale to 2:1, 3840x1920 output
   • Upscaling from 3408 width to 3840 width may not look so hot.

I could just save a bunch of screenshots and try the three different crop/scale sizes out, but that would be ~10 minutes of manually doing so and checking pictures. With a multi-threaded Blackman resize (less ringing?) and AMD VCN output to a 12 Mbps max HEVC file [CQP, 20/22 - it can't look much worse than the original] it's going faster than real-time, and I clipped only the actual fucking out to use as test clips, so it's 11 minutes long, and finishing up the last file as I finish typing this.

smh, when porn becomes a technical problem you feel compelled to fix...

 

[juulplums]

The correct answer is "none of the above". All of the above test files still looked distorted, but setting the FOV to 160 degrees in Whirligig actually looked correct.

I think that's what a corrected frame from this video should look like - with the black bars cropped, and the unscaled L/R images centered in the respective halves of the screen. Cropping the black bars from either the left or right half creates a 1708 px wide image, [1708/1920]x180=160.125 degrees, that sounds close enough to me.

I'm not going to bother wasting any time re-encoding e.g. AVVR-375, 385, 461, etc. because they don't have any misaligned black bars interfering with anything. You can just adjust the FOV during playback.

If there are any other AVVR videos with that same exact black bar problem, this relatively simple AVISynth script should give you output that looks like the screenshot above, you'll obviously have to replace the file name of the input file.

LoadPlugin("LSMASHSource.dll")
Left=LSMASHVideoSource("S:\VR\Ria Kashii\AVVR-417\AVVR417.VR.mp4", format = "YUV420P8").Crop(212, 0, -1920, -0).AddBorders(106, 0, 106, 0)
Right=LSMASHVideoSource("S:\VR\Ria Kashii\AVVR-417\AVVR417.VR.mp4", format = "YUV420P8").Crop(1920, 0, -212, -0).AddBorders(106, 0, 106, 0)
StackHorizontal(Left,Right)

 

[Walle12]

Thanks for the tip!! I don't remember to have any AVVR....