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hoping to see an IR video of AYANE ASAKURA, she's been around for awhile now
Nanoka Igawa's is also and "old" one (or a new edition of this one). She isn't active anymore. I found her when I was looking for a snake tongue girl.
ok so I hung out with this friend of mine over the weekend, and I learned a whole bunch of things (from what I remember, it was a fun night), …
-so you see theres a new AV title, it’s in the IR category, girl looks hot, might even be a big name like Erika Kitagawa or Asahi Mizuno…and then you realize it is the same studio nobody has heard of with the same vanilla ‘action’ with the SAME DAMN GUY…well there is a reason for that, if you see the same guy, ‘that guy’ is hired all the time because a) he is pretty much doing it for peanuts for the love of boning J-girls and b) because his Japanese is OK. The Japanese do not think they are dealing with some kind of mandingo, its just cheap and convenient!! Same with yuji gomez who basically does it for fun, hardly anyone buys it and the quality is mediocre but whatever, when overheads are so low just release the occasional title and it will make a few yen!! Thisis also a reason why it is rare to see 2 girls v 1 guy, but many the other way round…much cheaper to hire the guys!
-budgets are falling all the time for many studios, and as such conditions are worse for actors, which is why certain ‘usual suspects’ no longer appear in IR AV, pay is shitty and hours longer and a lot of the time they do not even get to do real cumshots! For example a lot of the Bermuda and fitch recent titles are mostly fakeass ‘creampies’, actors may do a whole days shoot and not even cum (the Amy yoshikawa recent title with fitch in the sex scenes and the IR scenes in the Bermuda av with Saryu Usui did not have a single real cumshot). Basically the black actors are treated like shit, pay is minimal and they do the scenes as quickly as possible, even in a single day (with fitch it is a case of bang, fake creampie, shower, bang, fake creampie, ok bye thanks guys see you next time) and if there is a real money shot they shoot that one last lol.
(that said its not really a racist thing, shitty conditions are the rule nowadays and if an actress does not churn out titles on the daily like Sora Shina and Yui Hatano you can bet youre bottom dollar they are doing ‘something’ on the side to make a living)
-if you are a white/latino or whatever it is easy to get into AV…as long as you have good Japanese, know the culture, live in Japan, can deal with the long hour, shitty pay, maybe not even getting to nut (as mentioned above!) and even better if you can sell yourself and are regularly avialable. as you can tell from the lack of non-black IR, there are not a lot of those guys!! I was told that studios would be willing to try it, pay the guy hardly anything and see how it goes….worked for yuji gomez!
- a lot of AV girls are fascinated by western porn! (I know this cos I asked about the possibility of more girls doing western porn
) They tend not to watch av as they know the score, arent exactly turned on by an end product that they know are result of long hours, unglamorous conditions and whanot and it is not interesting for them, (plus they are total bitches and mostly hate each other, lol) but they do watch a lot of American porn, not so much to be turned on as curiosity, like the way the girls move,certatin techniques …you may have noticed girls spitting on the guys dick (never happened before), thats apparently an example of the influence! Lol. What always amazes them is the way western girls get into it and (loudly, lol) enjoy the fucking whereas in Japan its all about making the guy feel powerful with half pain/enjoyment/girlish style squealing. Whether that will influence more AV girls to go into western porn I can only guess/hope!!
-studios are very interested in exploring the overseas market (thats why they send girls to AVN every year) but the fact is their English is so shitty (studios and girls) it is hard tocreate any synergy! Studios are not like Sony or whatever with thousands of trained, bilingual experienced staff, they are surprisingl y small scale and not easy for them to make the connection or even have the budget to do anything worth there while. Sad! An example is that r18.com is basically just run by western av geeks doing it as a pastime despite it being the main window to the outside world for AV.
-not well known but av studios are exploring custom porn, basically you pay a ton of money to get AV shot according to your own specifications. This is quitr a big thing now in the states and so of course its attracting studio’s attention. What I am trying to say is if you are loaded and want to do us all a service and produce a whole series of hot IR then please go ahead! Lol. Atm tho, it tends to be amateur/unknown actresses, as of course they are going to get leaked and studios do not want that kind of exposure for top actresses
-girls themselves are pretty much always fine with doing and enjoy IR, I did wander if the likes of Mao Hamasaki Miki Sunohara Ruri Saijo etc who have filmed all kinds of different shit other than IR have a say in the matter/racist attitudes which is why they never do IR as well as the studio but in fact the local-based black actors have a good rep as being fun to work with, cool guys, preferable to sucking off the studio bosses or bukkake or whatever. Studios decision
-don't be surpised to see Kaho Shibuya go the Marica Hase route in future…
- best til last…expect to see the top-tier ‘exclusive’ one-studio Oppai, Prestige, girls do ‘lifting the black ban’ /’international fuck’ titles!! We are talking Julia, hitomi, shunka ayami, kirara asuka kind of girls…holy shit I hope that is true!! Reasoning is their business model of keeping girls ‘exclusive’ is shitty and not cost-effective at all, as well as doing things like more fan meet and greets, they are going to make a big show of ‘one-time special’ titles events including IR cos it has never been done before and they need new angles. Possibly more likely for new girls or stars close to retirement. i will believe it when I see it and my heart tells me its bs, but I would die happy if its true, lol
-so you see theres a new AV title, it’s in the IR category, girl looks hot, might even be a big name like Erika Kitagawa or Asahi Mizuno…and then you realize it is the same studio nobody has heard of with the same vanilla ‘action’ with the SAME DAMN GUY…well there is a reason for that, if you see the same guy, ‘that guy’ is hired all the time because a) he is pretty much doing it for peanuts for the love of boning J-girls and b) because his Japanese is OK. The Japanese do not think they are dealing with some kind of mandingo, its just cheap and convenient!! Same with yuji gomez who basically does it for fun, hardly anyone buys it and the quality is mediocre but whatever, when overheads are so low just release the occasional title and it will make a few yen!! Thisis also a reason why it is rare to see 2 girls v 1 guy, but many the other way round…much cheaper to hire the guys!
-budgets are falling all the time for many studios, and as such conditions are worse for actors, which is why certain ‘usual suspects’ no longer appear in IR AV, pay is shitty and hours longer and a lot of the time they do not even get to do real cumshots! For example a lot of the Bermuda and fitch recent titles are mostly fakeass ‘creampies’, actors may do a whole days shoot and not even cum (the Amy yoshikawa recent title with fitch in the sex scenes and the IR scenes in the Bermuda av with Saryu Usui did not have a single real cumshot). Basically the black actors are treated like shit, pay is minimal and they do the scenes as quickly as possible, even in a single day (with fitch it is a case of bang, fake creampie, shower, bang, fake creampie, ok bye thanks guys see you next time) and if there is a real money shot they shoot that one last lol.
(that said its not really a racist thing, shitty conditions are the rule nowadays and if an actress does not churn out titles on the daily like Sora Shina and Yui Hatano you can bet youre bottom dollar they are doing ‘something’ on the side to make a living)
-if you are a white/latino or whatever it is easy to get into AV…as long as you have good Japanese, know the culture, live in Japan, can deal with the long hour, shitty pay, maybe not even getting to nut (as mentioned above!) and even better if you can sell yourself and are regularly avialable. as you can tell from the lack of non-black IR, there are not a lot of those guys!! I was told that studios would be willing to try it, pay the guy hardly anything and see how it goes….worked for yuji gomez!
- a lot of AV girls are fascinated by western porn! (I know this cos I asked about the possibility of more girls doing western porn
) They tend not to watch av as they know the score, arent exactly turned on by an end product that they know are result of long hours, unglamorous conditions and whanot and it is not interesting for them, (plus they are total bitches and mostly hate each other, lol) but they do watch a lot of American porn, not so much to be turned on as curiosity, like the way the girls move,certatin techniques …you may have noticed girls spitting on the guys dick (never happened before), thats apparently an example of the influence! Lol. What always amazes them is the way western girls get into it and (loudly, lol) enjoy the fucking whereas in Japan its all about making the guy feel powerful with half pain/enjoyment/girlish style squealing. Whether that will influence more AV girls to go into western porn I can only guess/hope!!-studios are very interested in exploring the overseas market (thats why they send girls to AVN every year) but the fact is their English is so shitty (studios and girls) it is hard tocreate any synergy! Studios are not like Sony or whatever with thousands of trained, bilingual experienced staff, they are surprisingl y small scale and not easy for them to make the connection or even have the budget to do anything worth there while. Sad! An example is that r18.com is basically just run by western av geeks doing it as a pastime despite it being the main window to the outside world for AV.
-not well known but av studios are exploring custom porn, basically you pay a ton of money to get AV shot according to your own specifications. This is quitr a big thing now in the states and so of course its attracting studio’s attention. What I am trying to say is if you are loaded and want to do us all a service and produce a whole series of hot IR then please go ahead! Lol. Atm tho, it tends to be amateur/unknown actresses, as of course they are going to get leaked and studios do not want that kind of exposure for top actresses
-girls themselves are pretty much always fine with doing and enjoy IR, I did wander if the likes of Mao Hamasaki Miki Sunohara Ruri Saijo etc who have filmed all kinds of different shit other than IR have a say in the matter/racist attitudes which is why they never do IR as well as the studio but in fact the local-based black actors have a good rep as being fun to work with, cool guys, preferable to sucking off the studio bosses or bukkake or whatever. Studios decision
-don't be surpised to see Kaho Shibuya go the Marica Hase route in future…
- best til last…expect to see the top-tier ‘exclusive’ one-studio Oppai, Prestige, girls do ‘lifting the black ban’ /’international fuck’ titles!! We are talking Julia, hitomi, shunka ayami, kirara asuka kind of girls…holy shit I hope that is true!! Reasoning is their business model of keeping girls ‘exclusive’ is shitty and not cost-effective at all, as well as doing things like more fan meet and greets, they are going to make a big show of ‘one-time special’ titles events including IR cos it has never been done before and they need new angles. Possibly more likely for new girls or stars close to retirement. i will believe it when I see it and my heart tells me its bs, but I would die happy if its true, lol
Basically never, at least for now…as mentioned above, its much cheaper to film a title with 3-4 guys and one girl, if they shoot with a bunch of girls (like the fan appreciation videos) they need to be damn sure it’s going to be a big hit and an IR orgy would not guarantee that. Sad!
Doesn't know who but said most probably will be just 2-3 girls with big tits, fuller figure and a sluttier kind of look (as opposed to the more innocent or girl next door type) there is the probably correct impression that western audiances not interested in skinny or innocent looking girly girls…he said we probably entirely have Asa Akira to thank for that impression, lol. In other words, it will probably just be kaho and anri again, as their English is good. Apparently many of the girls who went a couple of years back, when a whole bunch came over like Aika, Korea Hatsumi, ended up pretty pissed off that they basically just stood around and got ignored, lol, they are used to being superstars in japan but there was not a lot of interest in them, at least from their point of view.
Interestingly I found out there was an agency called f2f, had a stall at AVN last year, responsible for brining ayumu kase to the US, they were intending to bring more girls over but sadly it did not work out and the agency has reached the end of the line…
Possible, as she works with a bunch of different studios… has shot with AVS collectors before, who just launched the shiho agami anal title, as well as Fitch. No definite news though. However, she was apparently interviewed about the IR she did with fitch and was not that complimentary about the ‘talent’, complaining that they could not last long and often had to stop for breaks, lol (put this through google translate: http://www.shuinibzj.com/21238.html)
thanks for all the info and insight! who love for saki okuda to go to avn probably not likely lol kaho and hitomi and kinda cartoony looking in thier proportions but i guess thier really popular
IR orgies is something that was more popular in the 2000's. There was a studio named Karma that regularly produced them:
I suspect waning popularity in IR overall and piracy is what ultimately did them in.
I suspect waning popularity in IR overall and piracy is what ultimately did them in.
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Who are those two actresses?IR orgies is something that was more popular in the 2000's. There was a studio named Karma that regularly produced them:
I suspect waning popularity in IR overall and piracy is what ultimately did them in.
Speaking of Aimi did she say anything about the lesbian movies shes done? She didn't do it for a long time then released a bunch of lesbian films wondering how much she enjoys women now thats shes had a taste lol.
ok so I hung out with this friend of mine over the weekend, and I learned a whole bunch of things (from what I remember, it was a fun night), …
-so you see theres a new AV title, it’s in the IR category, girl looks hot, might even be a big name like Erika Kitagawa or Asahi Mizuno…and then you realize it is the same studio nobody has heard of with the same vanilla ‘action’ with the SAME DAMN GUY…well there is a reason for that, if you see the same guy, ‘that guy’ is hired all the time because a) he is pretty much doing it for peanuts for the love of boning J-girls and b) because his Japanese is OK. The Japanese do not think they are dealing with some kind of mandingo, its just cheap and convenient!! Same with yuji gomez who basically does it for fun, hardly anyone buys it and the quality is mediocre but whatever, when overheads are so low just release the occasional title and it will make a few yen!! Thisis also a reason why it is rare to see 2 girls v 1 guy, but many the other way round…much cheaper to hire the guys!
-budgets are falling all the time for many studios, and as such conditions are worse for actors, which is why certain ‘usual suspects’ no longer appear in IR AV, pay is shitty and hours longer and a lot of the time they do not even get to do real cumshots! For example a lot of the Bermuda and fitch recent titles are mostly fakeass ‘creampies’, actors may do a whole days shoot and not even cum (the Amy yoshikawa recent title with fitch in the sex scenes and the IR scenes in the Bermuda av with Saryu Usui did not have a single real cumshot). Basically the black actors are treated like shit, pay is minimal and they do the scenes as quickly as possible, even in a single day (with fitch it is a case of bang, fake creampie, shower, bang, fake creampie, ok bye thanks guys see you next time) and if there is a real money shot they shoot that one last lol.
(that said its not really a racist thing, shitty conditions are the rule nowadays and if an actress does not churn out titles on the daily like Sora Shina and Yui Hatano you can bet youre bottom dollar they are doing ‘something’ on the side to make a living)
-if you are a white/latino or whatever it is easy to get into AV…as long as you have good Japanese, know the culture, live in Japan, can deal with the long hour, shitty pay, maybe not even getting to nut (as mentioned above!) and even better if you can sell yourself and are regularly avialable. as you can tell from the lack of non-black IR, there are not a lot of those guys!! I was told that studios would be willing to try it, pay the guy hardly anything and see how it goes….worked for yuji gomez!
- a lot of AV girls are fascinated by western porn! (I know this cos I asked about the possibility of more girls doing western porn
-studios are very interested in exploring the overseas market (thats why they send girls to AVN every year) but the fact is their English is so shitty (studios and girls) it is hard tocreate any synergy! Studios are not like Sony or whatever with thousands of trained, bilingual experienced staff, they are surprisingl y small scale and not easy for them to make the connection or even have the budget to do anything worth there while. Sad! An example is that r18.com is basically just run by western av geeks doing it as a pastime despite it being the main window to the outside world for AV.
-not well known but av studios are exploring custom porn, basically you pay a ton of money to get AV shot according to your own specifications. This is quitr a big thing now in the states and so of course its attracting studio’s attention. What I am trying to say is if you are loaded and want to do us all a service and produce a whole series of hot IR then please go ahead! Lol. Atm tho, it tends to be amateur/unknown actresses, as of course they are going to get leaked and studios do not want that kind of exposure for top actresses
-girls themselves are pretty much always fine with doing and enjoy IR, I did wander if the likes of Mao Hamasaki Miki Sunohara Ruri Saijo etc who have filmed all kinds of different shit other than IR have a say in the matter/racist attitudes which is why they never do IR as well as the studio but in fact the local-based black actors have a good rep as being fun to work with, cool guys, preferable to sucking off the studio bosses or bukkake or whatever. Studios decision
-don't be surpised to see Kaho Shibuya go the Marica Hase route in future…
- best til last…expect to see the top-tier ‘exclusive’ one-studio Oppai, Prestige, girls do ‘lifting the black ban’ /’international fuck’ titles!! We are talking Julia, hitomi, shunka ayami, kirara asuka kind of girls…holy shit I hope that is true!! Reasoning is their business model of keeping girls ‘exclusive’ is shitty and not cost-effective at all, as well as doing things like more fan meet and greets, they are going to make a big show of ‘one-time special’ titles events including IR cos it has never been done before and they need new angles. Possibly more likely for new girls or stars close to retirement. i will believe it when I see it and my heart tells me its bs, but I would die happy if its true, lol
Is your friend the same person who told you that AV Open would be filled with high profile IR???
ok so I hung out with this friend of mine over the weekend, and I learned a whole bunch of things (from what I remember, it was a fun night), …
-so you see theres a new AV title, it’s in the IR category, girl looks hot, might even be a big name like Erika Kitagawa or Asahi Mizuno…and then you realize it is the same studio nobody has heard of with the same vanilla ‘action’ with the SAME DAMN GUY…well there is a reason for that, if you see the same guy, ‘that guy’ is hired all the time because a) he is pretty much doing it for peanuts for the love of boning J-girls and b) because his Japanese is OK. The Japanese do not think they are dealing with some kind of mandingo, its just cheap and convenient!! Same with yuji gomez who basically does it for fun, hardly anyone buys it and the quality is mediocre but whatever, when overheads are so low just release the occasional title and it will make a few yen!! Thisis also a reason why it is rare to see 2 girls v 1 guy, but many the other way round…much cheaper to hire the guys!
-budgets are falling all the time for many studios, and as such conditions are worse for actors, which is why certain ‘usual suspects’ no longer appear in IR AV, pay is shitty and hours longer and a lot of the time they do not even get to do real cumshots! For example a lot of the Bermuda and fitch recent titles are mostly fakeass ‘creampies’, actors may do a whole days shoot and not even cum (the Amy yoshikawa recent title with fitch in the sex scenes and the IR scenes in the Bermuda av with Saryu Usui did not have a single real cumshot). Basically the black actors are treated like shit, pay is minimal and they do the scenes as quickly as possible, even in a single day (with fitch it is a case of bang, fake creampie, shower, bang, fake creampie, ok bye thanks guys see you next time) and if there is a real money shot they shoot that one last lol.
(that said its not really a racist thing, shitty conditions are the rule nowadays and if an actress does not churn out titles on the daily like Sora Shina and Yui Hatano you can bet youre bottom dollar they are doing ‘something’ on the side to make a living)
-if you are a white/latino or whatever it is easy to get into AV…as long as you have good Japanese, know the culture, live in Japan, can deal with the long hour, shitty pay, maybe not even getting to nut (as mentioned above!) and even better if you can sell yourself and are regularly avialable. as you can tell from the lack of non-black IR, there are not a lot of those guys!! I was told that studios would be willing to try it, pay the guy hardly anything and see how it goes….worked for yuji gomez!
- a lot of AV girls are fascinated by western porn! (I know this cos I asked about the possibility of more girls doing western porn
-studios are very interested in exploring the overseas market (thats why they send girls to AVN every year) but the fact is their English is so shitty (studios and girls) it is hard tocreate any synergy! Studios are not like Sony or whatever with thousands of trained, bilingual experienced staff, they are surprisingl y small scale and not easy for them to make the connection or even have the budget to do anything worth there while. Sad! An example is that r18.com is basically just run by western av geeks doing it as a pastime despite it being the main window to the outside world for AV.
-not well known but av studios are exploring custom porn, basically you pay a ton of money to get AV shot according to your own specifications. This is quitr a big thing now in the states and so of course its attracting studio’s attention. What I am trying to say is if you are loaded and want to do us all a service and produce a whole series of hot IR then please go ahead! Lol. Atm tho, it tends to be amateur/unknown actresses, as of course they are going to get leaked and studios do not want that kind of exposure for top actresses
-girls themselves are pretty much always fine with doing and enjoy IR, I did wander if the likes of Mao Hamasaki Miki Sunohara Ruri Saijo etc who have filmed all kinds of different shit other than IR have a say in the matter/racist attitudes which is why they never do IR as well as the studio but in fact the local-based black actors have a good rep as being fun to work with, cool guys, preferable to sucking off the studio bosses or bukkake or whatever. Studios decision
-don't be surpised to see Kaho Shibuya go the Marica Hase route in future…
- best til last…expect to see the top-tier ‘exclusive’ one-studio Oppai, Prestige, girls do ‘lifting the black ban’ /’international fuck’ titles!! We are talking Julia, hitomi, shunka ayami, kirara asuka kind of girls…holy shit I hope that is true!! Reasoning is their business model of keeping girls ‘exclusive’ is shitty and not cost-effective at all, as well as doing things like more fan meet and greets, they are going to make a big show of ‘one-time special’ titles events including IR cos it has never been done before and they need new angles. Possibly more likely for new girls or stars close to retirement. i will believe it when I see it and my heart tells me its bs, but I would die happy if its true, lol
same with my guess, Kaho Shibuya talk english fluently, and she is not contract girl -> big chance she will be working with foreign studios, doing western porn, fucking with foreign males like Marica Hase did
if JAV studios need more new angles, fresh ideas, would love to see them make interracial orgies, Bako Bako with some famous JAV idols + few foreign porn stars would be great
asian girls (for this matter japanese girls) who can perform like western porn stars would be perfect, I hate half pain girlish squealing
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IR orgies is something that was more popular in the 2000's. There was a studio named Karma that regularly produced them:
I suspect waning popularity in IR overall and piracy is what ultimately did them in.
yes, Moodyz used to made it regularly too, but too bad they have discontinue
this is should be revive
they was wild in early 2000's
type of girls that I love to see in JAV