Is Jav Entering a Dark Age?

pftion

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Let's start this discussion. Someone already posted a same discussion in another forum (with a same title too).

Is Jav entering a dark age?​

From all the answers posted there, I assume every person have their own "Golden Age" era. Most of them are started when their favorite actress do her debut and ended with their retirement. This question begins with argument if a lot of good talent retiring and not very good talent coming in. Some of answer said it's because the shrinkage in AV market and video piracy.
 

clemenceko

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I never imagine that jav will also have piracy issues.
 

Bizmuth

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I don't really agree with that statement. I think JAV is not entering its dark age, nor that it's in its golden age. I think the models showing up everyday are getting better and better looking. Yes there are some of my favorites who have retired, but I never expected them to be in this line of work forever anyway.

What I do believe is that if you like a certain model very much, you can show your support to them by going to a certain paid website (I'm not sure what is the policy of this message board regarding mentioning other websites, so I won't mention it for now.) and purchase their videos. It's not subscription based, you buy the video that you want to watch. Most of them are pretty cheap too, going around $2 to $10 per video. I think if a model gets popular, the studio producing them will likely request them to perform more.
 

princeali692

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I see around at least 4 or 5 good sperm themed movies coming out in the next month that I know I will enjoy. So, for me, I don't think JAV is entering a dark age. I only pay attention to a specific niche though. I'd like to know why others might think this.
 

lordsuperjesus

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I see around at least 4 or 5 good sperm themed movies coming out in the next month that I know I will enjoy. So, for me, I don't think JAV is entering a dark age. I only pay attention to a specific niche though. I'd like to know why others might think this.

i'm with you on this dude, good gokkun vids are coming out, some of them rival the vids that came out during the "golden age" of gokkun from 1993 to 2005. so no, it's not a dark age for me. but it seems like loli fever has hit JAV hard lately. the same is happening to anime. the girls just keep getting smaller and smaller and look younger and younger. this was not the way of things 10 years ago. then, it was all high school themed, but now, it's all 9 year old themed. maybe the loli ban is the reason why, i don't know. this trend is hitting gokkun vids to, but it was always there and it does not bother me so whatever. during that "golden age" there was some little girl does gokkun themed stuff (some of the best gokkun vids of the time were that theme btw) but with the mum series and the like it's seems like its a lot more these days. so if loli fever bothers you then i guess it is a dark age, if you like hot young lolis then this is a boon time. i really don't care either way as long as there are still wide mouths filled with cum.
 
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Zen10101

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Far from it, in fact porn in general is entering a golden age, with HD and VR coming soon. I also like how mosaic is getting thinner these days.

In terms of actresses, many of the "old guard" seem to have retired in the past few months, and while I look forward to their comebacks there is still enough new talent in the industry, both in terms of looks and ability.
 

FireFart

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I don't think so. If you are into certain actresses then your dark age will come no matter what time it is(I know that feeling when recently Yuuna Shiina announced her retirement). It's only an unfortunate time that a lot of actresses retire recently.

With that said, I think the JAV industry is still going strong.
 

loveGIANT

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in my opinion, there never was/is a "dark age" in any form of entertainment. for example: before i listened to japanese rap only, people said that rap nowadays is a dark age, even though there are millions of underground rappers for u to choose from.


but back to the topic; i watch lesbian movies only, since i get no pleasure at watching at another mans junk (wretch) and the last 2 years some high profile ladies left the scene. ladies like uta kohaku and the worst hit was real-life bisexual misa yuuki.

on the contrary, ladies who disappeared from jav as a whole, if i remember correctly, namely yuka oosawa aka elly akira aka elly arai and the best lesbian jav actress ever azusa kirihara made their comebacks.

in terms of studios, its a great time to be a fan of lesbian javs, since u have 4 studios who produce lesbian javs only (ladyxlady, lezule!, bibian, u&k) and studios who produce lesbian javs regularly.
those studios also do a great job at bringing in new faces as well as established girls that we love and enjoy watching.

and i almost forgot: the fake-labeling, where studios put "lesbian" in the title, when it was in fact a hetero title (best example is that "sperm lesbian" bufalé. made me sick to my stomach. lesbian = girls only, NO guys in any shape or form, its that simple.) something that all lesbian jav fans hated and still hate, that kind of bs has THANKFULLY been dialed back. sure, there are still studios like fa-pro, or fa-noob, as i like to call em, that throws in hetero and i hate them with a passion for it, but overall it doesnt happen as much as it used to anymore.

so from a standpoint from a lesbian jav fan; if u wanna go with terms for ages, in terms of video quality, quantity, actresses and sub-categories from the aforementioned studios who produce lesbian content only, i think we live in the golden age and i also think that it wont change in the near future
 
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Well just yesterday I was telling my wife that anime has been in a 10 years abyss with no hope in sight. The best stuffs are remakes like Yamato 2199 and Gundam Origin. I'm a mecha/scifi fan, she's into fantasy/mythology, we both agree it's in a sad state.

But JAV seems to be in a "golden" age, if anything. Not too long ago, B-cups tits are the norm and D-cups are rare. Now you bump into so many big and beautiful tits (often comes with a beautiful face too!) it's impossible to keep track of all of them. Not just the physical body, but the physical acting is also so much better.

I remember the time when all the S-1 stars just lie motionless on their backside let the man do his business and she would whine (not moan) or repeat "yamadae" a million times. Or the man would shove his wee wee in her mouth. A JAV performer's primary acting skill consists of pretending to be helpless. Back then it seems... only an over-the-peak, past-her-prime performer would engage in the kinkier fetishes, and back then a woman who wants to fuck was considered kinky and obscene (yeah... funny using that word from the perspective of mainstream JAV).

Then gradually the girls would be allowed to experience pleasure while being fucked or at least show less disgust/victimization while a cock is being shoved down her throat. Then the whining gradually become moans or even dirty talk. She might sometimes thrust her hips and grab the man's ass. She kisses back or suck the man's tongue. She eventually even suck cocks of her own free will. Then... the pendulum swung all the way and it seems every other vid is advertising cowgirl as its main selling point. The position that the man is lying on his back side and the girl rides on his cock and thrust her hips up and down to generate the fucking motion. For those of us who were used to the JAV stars is barely more animate than a rubber doll, this was serious nose-bleeding stuff.

Now... my my... the vids simply stopped advertising cowgirl, they just do it. Every star, every amateur, veteran or newb, all can be expected to be reasonably skillful and willing (perhaps even enthusiastic) in cocksucking, cum-swallowing and fucking and being fucked in all kinds of posture.

In terms of personality, yes I also dearly miss some all time favs Takako Kitahara, Maria Ozawa, Yuma Asami, even Bunko, but the current generation of top stars and short-termers (those with a name but with a career of 6-12 vids) and amateur (those without a name but have done anywhere from 1 to 100 vids) are as good, or even better than the old guards.

As for kinky theme/genre/fetish, I think it's also flourishing. Well I won't get into it right now, I should get back to work... But I might say lately I seem to miss the multi-top-stars in magic mirror bus or fan appreciation fest or some such. One of my all time fav was Maria Ozawa and 3 other top stars (I forgot which 3 exactly now) in a magic mirror bus vid. Is it my imagination... there seem to a lack of these lately. OTOH, a recent new sub-genre is the conversion of H games and hentai manga into JAV, speaking for myself, I find these JAV realizations to be much better than the originals.

Also the quality of uncensored JAV is also improving, I only wish more censored stars would cross over to uncensored. There's still a noticeable gap between the quality (hot bods and beautiful faces) of censored and uncensored.

So overall, it'd say JAV is better than ever. If there's a complaint, perhaps there's just too much of a good thing. Back then there were fewer hot stars and great vids are really once in a blue moon so each one is so cherishable. Now every month there are easily 10 good vids to catch, and I don't have the time to even scan each vid, let alone properly savor the whole movie. So yeah I understand if some people got jaded.
 

TheDuke07

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JAV is far from a dark age since the actors are far more attractive than before. Man have you seen some of the older JAV works? Awful lighting and homely women double yuck. Only thing they had going for them were the fetish works since they had no respect for those busted boards :p
 

Bizmuth

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Well just yesterday I was telling my wife that anime has been in a 10 years abyss with no hope in sight. The best stuffs are remakes like Yamato 2199 and Gundam Origin. I'm a mecha/scifi fan, she's into fantasy/mythology, we both agree it's in a sad state.

But JAV seems to be in a "golden" age, if anything. Not too long ago, B-cups tits are the norm and D-cups are rare. Now you bump into so many big and beautiful tits (often comes with a beautiful face too!) it's impossible to keep track of all of them. Not just the physical body, but the physical acting is also so much better.

I remember the time when all the S-1 stars just lie motionless on their backside let the man do his business and she would whine (not moan) or repeat "yamadae" a million times. Or the man would shove his wee wee in her mouth. A JAV performer's primary acting skill consists of pretending to be helpless. Back then it seems... only an over-the-peak, past-her-prime performer would engage in the kinkier fetishes, and back then a woman who wants to fuck was considered kinky and obscene (yeah... funny using that word from the perspective of mainstream JAV).

Then gradually the girls would be allowed to experience pleasure while being fucked or at least show less disgust/victimization while a cock is being shoved down her throat. Then the whining gradually become moans or even dirty talk. She might sometimes thrust her hips and grab the man's ass. She kisses back or suck the man's tongue. She eventually even suck cocks of her own free will. Then... the pendulum swung all the way and it seems every other vid is advertising cowgirl as its main selling point. The position that the man is lying on his back side and the girl rides on his cock and thrust her hips up and down to generate the fucking motion. For those of us who were used to the JAV stars is barely more animate than a rubber doll, this was serious nose-bleeding stuff.

Now... my my... the vids simply stopped advertising cowgirl, they just do it. Every star, every amateur, veteran or newb, all can be expected to be reasonably skillful and willing (perhaps even enthusiastic) in cocksucking, cum-swallowing and fucking and being fucked in all kinds of posture.

In terms of personality, yes I also dearly miss some all time favs Takako Kitahara, Maria Ozawa, Yuma Asami, even Bunko, but the current generation of top stars and short-termers (those with a name but with a career of 6-12 vids) and amateur (those without a name but have done anywhere from 1 to 100 vids) are as good, or even better than the old guards.

As for kinky theme/genre/fetish, I think it's also flourishing. Well I won't get into it right now, I should get back to work... But I might say lately I seem to miss the multi-top-stars in magic mirror bus or fan appreciation fest or some such. One of my all time fav was Maria Ozawa and 3 other top stars (I forgot which 3 exactly now) in a magic mirror bus vid. Is it my imagination... there seem to a lack of these lately. OTOH, a recent new sub-genre is the conversion of H games and hentai manga into JAV, speaking for myself, I find these JAV realizations to be much better than the originals.

Also the quality of uncensored JAV is also improving, I only wish more censored stars would cross over to uncensored. There's still a noticeable gap between the quality (hot bods and beautiful faces) of censored and uncensored.

So overall, it'd say JAV is better than ever. If there's a complaint, perhaps there's just too much of a good thing. Back then there were fewer hot stars and great vids are really once in a blue moon so each one is so cherishable. Now every month there are easily 10 good vids to catch, and I don't have the time to even scan each vid, let alone properly savor the whole movie. So yeah I understand if some people got jaded.

Whoa, all this time I've been taking it for granted. But you just made me realize that I haven't heard the word yamete or kimochi out of the actresses' mouths for a long time. I also notice that the male performers are generally better looking too. Even if their face aren't the most good looking, at least their body are muscular or toned. Back then a lot of the male performers looked like they were in their 40s with beer gut and (sorry) smaller dick. Maybe that is part of the reasons why the actresses are more willing to act like they enjoy the sex, and also willing to return back kisses instead of closing their mouth shut while the male performers force their lips into them :confused:
 

Supmop

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Let's start this discussion. Someone already posted a same discussion in another forum (with a same title too).

Is Jav entering a dark age?​

From all the answers posted there, I assume every person have their own "Golden Age" era. Most of them are started when their favorite actress do her debut and ended with their retirement. This question begins with argument if a lot of good talent retiring and not very good talent coming in. Some of answer said it's because the shrinkage in AV market and video piracy.

I don't agree JAV entering a dark age, I still seen many newcomers with good potential, could be the next legend if they continue to work in the industry