Japan incest movies are real?

[aldebran]

I found on tube sites movies in the series RCT (incest guess game movies):
http://www.rocket-inc.net/search_genre.php?g=98

I know in Japan incest is allowed.
So are these videos are real (real father daughter / mom son / daughter brother) or meybe this is only actors?
I think it is not the real family.

I ask you because you know more than we do here in Europe.

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私はシリーズのRCT（近親相姦推測ゲームムービー）における管のサイトのビデオで発見
私は日本で近親相姦が許可されている知っている。
だから、これらのビデオは本物である（本当の父親の娘/ママの息子/娘の兄）や、これが唯一の俳優であるmeybeていますか？
私はそれが本当の家族ではないと思います。

あなたは私たちがここにヨーロッパでの観光よりも多くを知っているので、私はお願いします。
私のために残念、私の

Translated on google translator. / Googleの翻訳で翻訳した。

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[nanank99]

i think all jav incest theme is fake...i never found enough evidence to make sure any is real one...
if you watch it, some of the actress is an av actress, but an infamous one or an amateur...

but if there is a real one incest jav video, let me know. i really would like to see it too...

 

[Electromog]

If there is real incest JAV out there it's amateur stuff, nothing from the major studios, I'm sure.
Definitely not the Rocket ones. I like them, but it's all fake.

 

[aldebran]

I thought so
These girls behave like played. Too much enthusiasm, much too much

 

[tamei]

It all fakes... it meant to create a simulating and creative story lines. That is what all about in JAV.

 

[Verginello]

Yep, I think so too. Just to stimulate your fantasy.
But it is a is very popular fetish, H-manga are full of stories about incest.
I am not into though.

 

[789545545]

just movies
i don't think so.

 

[rezujav]

There are a few JAV movies in which identical lesbian twins do each other which can't be faked.

 

[javloverz]

they just act, it is not real

 

[jtyo69]

99.99% are fake/staged. However few videos seem real. One of them is performed by Sakurada Sakura, and someone who is presented as her mother.
The japanese title is: 母子どんぶり号泣乱交 桜田さくら・さつき
[MAD-110] or sometimes labeled [SMA-035]　（*ttp://marx.co.jp/detail.php?mno=SMA-035）

 

[yakkity]

I need to revive this thread...
is this Moeha is really Marina Matsumoto's daughter????
She has been marketed as such since her debut 2014, but I just don't see a resemblance...
(this is Caribbeancom 070415-913)

 

[ding73ding]

It's not the first time a mother-daughter or a pair of sisters showing in the same AV vid or scene. There's little reason to doubt they are real family. But this kind of vid is rare and I can only remember seeing two female family members making an AV.

Somehow it seems quite acceptable, to watch a pair of sis or mother+daughter fucking the same guy. Speaking for myself, I certainly would not refuse such an engagement. But in above case, the mother is not nearly as MILF as I'd like.

This is easily distinguishable from the RCT series (and many other series) which pumps out endless fake incest vids. Those involve mostly coupling between a male and a female member of a fake family. I downloaded one recently, not so much for the incest part but for the "Escape Island" gimmick AND the listing of several big names (RCT-741) as expected it doesn't live up to expectations.

Note that for us gaijins (that's you too euro-boy) how these vids are supposed to be "incest" is totally lost on us. It's only represented by the irregular form of words and subtle tones in the conversation. E.g. a woman is supposed to address her older brother as Oniichan spoken with a girlish inflection even if she's 62 years old and talking to her 63 years old brother. Since gaijins don't understand Japanese these so-called incest vids are meaningless to us. Whenever I get an incest vid (which is not often) I just pretend it isn't.

Ahh... there's an exception, actually I will give you a few:
BBI-191, MIRD-148, ABP-312, EBOD-446, RCT-720, ZUKO-061
These vids all features 2 to 4 sisters (some with a mother in there) in various 3P/4P/5P scenes. I enjoy these immensely since they feature mostly professional AV performers or at least hot amateurs (ideally with big yummy tits). Since there's no pretension to be real, they put in a little effort to look real. So you have more involved situation and dialog before the foreplay e.g. dinner, bathtime, often a little light squabbling between the sisters with the mother or eldest sister restoring peace in the family. Best part is during the 3P sex the sisters would get in an argument over the cock, and each performer would put on a different personality with the littlest sister acting either as innocent or capricious and older sister might be kind or wily. In ZUKO-061 there's even a family feud over who's getting more creampies. Even without knowing Japanese it's easy enough to figure out the personality mechanics. Recommended.

Samewise, the monthly releases of widows, housemaids, teachers, nurses and students vids are also fake. With only a tiny number of exceptions(for students mostly).

 

[yakkity]

Great input, I recall now there were a few JAV's with actual twins, there's no faking those were sisters...
I think Marina Matsumoto is total hot MILF, if thats her daughter that just steps up her ero level, great stuff!

 

[ding73ding]

The two vids you mentioned is interested that it's the same theme but involving a pair whose relationship is different. But in discussing the fake incest aspect, perhaps it's not very relevant. If DVDES802 involves a husband/wife (or BF/GF) pair then obviously the "inappropriateness" of the deal is much lower. So the pair might accept the money and do the deal quite readily. So it's easy enough when comparing 802 and 853 that one involve more moral burden than the other.

But in JAV there are tons of vids involving a pairing of a man and a woman with a relationship other than husband/wife or BF/GF. Do you make a distinction between a nurse/patient JAV or incest JAV? Do you go off from the advertised genre and title or you can really tell the relationship is supposed to be incest from the acting/performance in the scene?

Nevermind that I find (real) incest to be slightly yucky. The point is I find a lot of incest vids (RCT particularly) to be underwhelming. Mostly they are amateurs who aren't very hot, and it's as if the word "incest" on the cover is enough marketing already so they are lazy about the film-making. They hardly do any set-up scene, showing the family doing family activities, do something to convince me they are who they advertise to be. If it's a nurse vid, at least there's a costume, with pantyhose, and the nurse doing some nurse things.

Samewise for widow JAVs. It seems like a genre that could appeal to me, but I have never found one to be interesting. It's always seems they just put a drab kimono on a mature lady and have some guy have sex with her. No drama detectable.

 

[whoknows1x]

I would agree with this above post, the reluctance feature in some of these movies is the biggest turn on for me. A couple examples and then I'll try to stay on topic. Some of my favorite examples of this has been in some of the czechcasting vids, unplanned anal, or even watching cam sites. Sticking to JAV, one of the series that originally got me into JAV was nanpa. Recently I found the SDMU163 and the rest of the series. This is great for this setup. Maybe I'm naive but this is one series I believe they are truly amateurs.

Back to the original topic, like posted above, twins are the easiest give away. RCT 279 is my all time favorite. Was always disappointed they only made one movie. NEO008 is a good one that is not as famous. The older yuri and muri twins had some good videos. YMDD052 I'm guessing is real. One thing I look for is actresses having the same name, although obviously this is not there real name and could be faked.

 

[Elepole]

Great input, I recall now there were a few JAV's with actual twins, there's no faking those were sisters...

The sister are Airi and Meiri. They did a couple of jav, including a exclusively lesbian twincest one. They are not the cutest girl ever, so most other jav are better unless you really want real incest.

 

[busterbeam]

The sister are Airi and Meiri. They did a couple of jav, including a exclusively lesbian twincest one. They are not the cutest girl ever, so most other jav are better unless you really want real incest.

ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/あいり%26めいり

"二人の外見はよく似ているが双生児ではなく、ダブルユーなどのアイドルユニットを模している"
"They look a lot alike but rather than being twins, they are imitating idol units such as W."

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[kermitfrog]

ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/あいり%26めいり

"二人の外見はよく似ているが双生児ではなく、ダブルユーなどのアイドルユニットを模している"
"They look a lot alike but rather than being twins, they are imitating idol units such as W."

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you don't know, W was a duo that put out a bunch of singles back in the mid-2000s. It had Ai Kago and Nozomi Tsuji, both of who were part of the mega-popular Morning Musume group. They were already on a decline at this point, though. Back when the two of them joined in 2000, the group was at its peak. At this point the producer was desperately trying anything.

The two of them had a reputation for being very close friends, almost sisters, and for the fact that they looked very similar. This was around 2000 when the group was consistently at the top of the annual charts. By the time W started, Morning Musume was mostly just selling to the hardcore (i.e. creepy) male fans, and the two didn't really look much alike anymore, but they just stuck the two together and called it W for whatever reason. I don't think they ever sold well.

Anyway a couple years after this started, Nozomi got knocked up and left the group, Ai got caught smoking and was kicked out for "illegal activities" (because she was 19 and the legal age was 20), and both of them have had depressing lives ever since.

But I think when Airi and Meiri came out, that was right around when W started too so they were probably trying to market them as similar to this. Especially because there were probably a lot of "hardcore" Morning Musume fans who desperately lusted after the girls, so the AV company was specifically hoping to sell to them.

 

[ding73ding]

I think we are kinda talking across each other here. What REALLY is incest? Casual definition might be sex between relatives. But if you have to exact about it, it really only applies to sex acts between a man and a woman with very close blood relation. Would you call sex between cousins incest? What about a man with his brother's wife? Or between uncle and niece? In real life, we all probably know someone or a friend of a friend who know someone who had an affair with her cousin's husband or something like that. There's even a famous actor who married his step-daughter or something(?).

There are all kinds of sexual pairings that's morally iffy, say a teacher+student, or doctor+patient or boss+employee. But incest between close blood relatives has an extra yuck factor that seems biologically WRONG, almost borderline on bestiality. Hetero 3P/4P sex involving a pair of same-sex siblings or family members doesn't quite fall in this category, IMHO. Say, two sisters taking turn sucking the same cock. Or two brothers DP a girl. Are these acts of incest? I'd say no.

What about homosexual intercourse within the family. That's much more debatable. Two sisters licking each other's pussy? A father sodomizing his son? Emotionally I just can't equate lesbian and gay sex. Without involving sperm, it's as if it's not real sex. So two women, related or not, seems to me just fooling around no matter what is being inserted into which orifices. What about the second case? It seems to qualify as incest. I know it's not entirely logical and I may be politically incorrect here.

What I'm getting at is the particular yuck or sick factor in incest, in love and/or sex between family members. In general, any kind of nakedness, physical contact, pleasure/pain seeking or causing all contain some feeling of privacy or embarrassment. Most people would feel a bit yuck about masturbation in the presence of another person, no matter if he/she is related or not. So if person A participating in person B's masturbation may be qualify as having sex between the two, but does it matter much that A and B are related or not? I think it no, so if a woman A gives man B a handjob, yes that's sex, but if A is B's sister, is that incest? If it's a "clean" hand job meaning the sperm doesn't enter her body or lands on her face or hand or skin, than maybe it's not that sick or against Natural Laws. But if it's a blowjob? If he shoots his sperm into his sister's mouth? Yes that's incest, that's wrong, in the biblical sense. Get it? What if he's wearing a condom? What if he ejaculate inside her orifice but the sperm never make contact, due to the condom? Yes that still count as incest.

Another classroom case. Sex involved in a power relation, e.g. boss and secretary, teacher and student. The younger junior person is not in a position to refuse sexual advances made by the boss or teacher. Or the patient need to be undressed or touched or probed by a doctor, or even drugged. So the boss or teacher or doctor taking sexual advantages is considered a villain. Yet I enjoy watching JAV of such themes. Right? But not between parents and children, right? Get it? It's wrong for a teacher to r*** his student, it's wrong for a father to r*** his children, yet the first case can make a JAV enjoyable for me, the second case makes it sick and taboo.

Makes sense? Maybe not totally scientific or logical. But my feeling is that incest is very yuck, very sick, very wrong. While I do have a decent collection of sister porns such as

So what's "Sick! I love it", what's "SICK, turn it off!"? I think my line is: a man (boy) ejaculating onto or inside another person who has close blood relation (with or without condom). As mentioned in another thread, one girl sucking sperm from insider her sister or mother's pussy or rectum? Excellent! As long as the sperm comes from a man who's not blood relation. So a girl sucking her brother-in-law's sperm from her sister's asshole? Good! A girl sucking her father's sperm from her mother's asshole? BAD! A girl sucking her brother's sperm from her sister-in-law's ass hole? Bad!

With me??? Y'all probably think I'm anal retentive

 

[samurai79]

For crying out loud! How naive are you? Of course they're fake!