Japanese porn vs. American porn

Supmop

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What usually happens in JAV during times when the economy slows down?

Do producers get more conservative, more generic, producing fewer niche videos? Or do they get wilder, more creative, trying to get the attention of that wealthier market segment that hasn't lost it's discretionary income?

good question, I like to know about this too, hope someone can answer it

I also want to know about the actress payment when the economy slows down ? Are the payment being cut ?
 

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What usually happens in JAV during times when the economy slows down?

Do producers get more conservative, more generic, producing fewer niche videos? Or do they get wilder, more creative, trying to get the attention of that wealthier market segment that hasn't lost it's discretionary income?

With economic slowdown, girls become more and more desparate, so the porn gets better and better.
 

leebar

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With economic slowdown, girls become more and more desparate, so the porn gets better and better.

That sounds more hopeful than documented, pikuseru! :D
Maybe someone can take years when JAV stars performed in bestiality videos and compare them against the Nikkei Stock Index. A purely scientific investigation. Don't forget the illustrat... I mean, charts & graphs.
 

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Just to bring things back on topic.

Things that make JAV awesome:

1. The girls are on average younger and prettier and they don't have ugly ass tattoos all over their bodies.
2. JAV girls tend to act really submissive, feminine, and go for the 'cute' look over the aggressive sexy look.
3. The thought put into the outfits and costumes.
4. The inventiveness of the scenes and fetishes is just awesome.
5. Gokkun
6. Gokkun
7. Gokkun

Things that make western porn awesome:

1. The anal scenes are so much better. JAV anal scenes are less enjoyable by far.
2. The girls are way more likely to be shaved and I just prefer how that looks.
3. The girls are more likely to keep their heels on (guilty of having a raging high heel fetish).
4. Western amateur porn is just better than Japanese amateur porn and there's so much more of it. WHY IS THIS?!!
5. Guy pulls his dick out of actresses ass/pussy/etc.. and places it into her mouth. Why is this and the variation below so uncommon in JAV?
6. Guy pulls his dick out of one actress ass/pussy/etc.. and places it into mouth of the other actress.
 

jugulear

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Something tells me you have a thing for "Gokkun," Birsha..! (I'd have thought there have been plenty of semen gulpers on the opposite end of the Rising Sun.)

You also revealed your taste for heels, and you're certainly not alone. I am with Member Pikesura from the previous page, who wrote, "...I like that girls in JAV are usually bare foot." I like women to be completely bared - one other advantage for most JAVs.

I was also intrigued with the explanation on the previous page as to why women are in charge with U.S. porn; I don't think Mastercard and Visa would be completely to blame, but it's an aspect I never thought about.

Some of you might enjoy: JAV = 1, U.S. PORN = 0

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birsha

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Oh, there's plenty of swallowing in western porn but not like there is in JAV, it's just not the same.
 

paparoach408

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I wonder what would happen if censorship went away? I think a lot of the ''innocent'' girls would go away, and i wonder since the companies would have nothing to make up for would the just go the route of Tokyo-hot/Carribean? Or the way of american porn
 

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Something tells me you have a thing for "Gokkun," Birsha..! (I'd have thought there have been plenty of semen gulpers on the opposite end of the Rising Sun.)

You also revealed your taste for heels, and you're certainly not alone. I am with Member Pikesura from the previous page, who wrote, "...I like that girls in JAV are usually bare foot." I like women to be completely bared - one other advantage for most JAVs.

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now me, and i realize that i'm in the minority here, i like girls with one shoe. one high-heeled shoe. i love to watch them limp around (vestiges of the appeal in foot binding, i suppose). not sure i've seen that in jav. however, in 'bringing up baby' katherine hepburn breaks a heel while out in the woods. does that stop her? hell no. she just says "hey, look at me" and starts walking and chanting "i was born on the side of a hill. i was born on the side of a hill. i was born on the side of a hill.". marvelous. we need more one-shoe women in jav.
 
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birsha

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@barba The one heel fetish is a new one on me. :)

@paparoach408 I doubt the cute "innocent" girls would go anywhere. Culturally Kawaii is such a big part of the Japanese culture I can't imagine that it would just suddenly not be a thing. Tokyo-hot/Carribean/Etc... tend to not have as many cute girls because of the logistics and cost of filming uncensored Japanese porn. Not because uncensored porn somehow eliminates "innocent" girls from the running.

And let's be clear we put innocent in quotes for a reason.

An "innocent" looking girl on her knees swallowing a half dozen loads of cum is anything but innocent. :)
 
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That's what makes JAV so great, the girls can do some the craziest, freakiest, sluttiest acts imaginable yet at the end of the day they still look like the innocent girl next door.
 

Inertia

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birsha> there's no logistics issues with filming uncensored. It's still filmed in Japan in the same exact studios and often with the same staff.
 

birsha

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Actually quite a bit of it is filmed in the Phillipines. Don't ask me how I know this. But I know this for a fact. Some of it is filmed locally though, yes. But I was talking about logistics in distribution. The moment you distribute it uncensored your market is different, and constrained since you can't openly sell it online to Japanese residents. I'd be seriously interested in how the money in Uncensored JAV makes it back to the producers but I'll bet you it goes through a number of hands and that those hands are all taking their cut. Logistics doesn't just mean the filming it means all of the other parts to, distribution, money handling, etc...
 

Inertia

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Trust me when I say that most is filmed in Japan. Uncensored is filmed outside of Japan about as often as censored titles and they'll surely make a big deal of it (<Insert AV star name here>'s American/Hawaii/Guam/Philippine nakadashi vacation).

You can openly sell uncensored movies to Japanese residents. You just can't sell it to them within Japan. In other words, the servers distributing the content cannot be in Japan. Do you really think sites like Carribeancom make the majority of their money from Japanese living abroad? Hell, the contact hours for the phone line on their support page is in JST.

I can't divulge exact pay for uncensored (staff, actors, etc.), but they are indeed mainly filmed in Japan. They are then sent (digitally or physically) abroad and packaged for release. The sending portion of the logistics chain is the murky legal area though mailing an encrypted drive or SFTP'ing works wonders for that.

This isn't the 80's. It's all very cut-and-dry and everyone involved in an uncensored shoot knows it especially the actresses who agree to show all uncensored for a massive pay bump.
 
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I actually stopped watching American porn years before I even got into JAVs. And yes there was a scene I'd stumble on here and there but I was through actively looking for porn to watch. All the women looked the same to me and more focus was placed on the dudes than I cared for. Majority of the time the dudes would never shut the hell up to the point that it was becoming a distraction. And the women not only looked to much like they all just got off of their plastic surgeons operating table but they kept saying the same shit over and over again like they were just reading off cue cards during sex. It felt so phony and just killed the fantasy aspect. Like what was said earlier, the American porn from the 90's and earlier is so much better than what it is today.

Now I had seen a random JAV scene long ago but turned it off immediately due to the mosaic. That just blew my mind. How can that even be called porn? Well one day I watched another JAV scene with this beautiful milf. It was none other than the big fan-favorite, Natsumi Kitahara. I just watched her performance and I was sold from that point forward. I was a Natsumi crack fiend and I needed my fix. Eventually I saw others and that was the beginning of my journey into JAVs.

Where as American porn just seemed so phony to me. JAVs came off as completely genuine. They concentrate on the details of foreplay & sensuality & providing a storyline, instead of it being just 2 people randomly showing up, the guy shoves the woman's head down on his cock, and then straight to the penetration.

And the real killer for me on how JAV's are WAY better than American porn is how they take advantage of any and every fetish that people might be into. I hadn't really experienced that until I started watching JAV's. Lets have an example:

Long Tongues & Big Lips!!! I'm a big BJ lover, so a woman with either of these is immediately in my crosshairs. In American porn I was a big fan of Lethal Lipps, Kakey, & Menage.
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Never understood why they never concentrated on exploiting such an obvious turn-on. Sure they would mention it and give some close-ups ever so often in a sex scene. But those assets were never truly the focus. It was always all about the sex. But in Japan it is the complete opposite. If those JAV companies hire a woman with such distinctive features eventually they will take full advantage of it by shooting films that base the all sexual acts around how they can show off those features. And that is what I love. In JAV's they actually try to provide something for everyone in the absolute best way possible. They don't half-ass anything.

JAV's aren't perfect though. Like what was mentioned earlier, every once in a while the woman's moaning can get overbearing, the use of mosaic is so damn frustrating, and they rely to much on that microphone vibrator. 10 out of 10 times I usually skip that scene. But the pros out weigh the cons. I'm a JAV fan for life.
 
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birsha

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Trust me when I say that most is filmed in Japan. Uncensored is filmed outside of Japan about as often as censored titles and they'll surely make a big deal of it (<Insert AV star name here>'s American/Hawaii/Guam/Philippine nakadashi vacation).

Yeah, I'm probably just not grasping the sheer amount of JAV being filmed every day. I just know I used to live in an area of the philipines where a lot of it was being filmed.

That's interesting re: the money stuff. I always assumed that the primary buyers were Japanese from Japan wasn't trying to imply differently, but assumed that legally they'd need to use some creative accounting to get the money from those sales back into Japan. That's fascinating that the law leaves such a giant loophole there for that kind of thing.
 

Inertia

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birsha> None of the creators of uncensored Japanese AV are incorporated in Japan. The biggest risk is the initial transmission of data from Japan to abroad for editing and sale.
 

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That's what makes JAV so great, the girls can do some the craziest, freakiest, sluttiest acts imaginable yet at the end of the day they still look like the innocent girl next door.

this! also, 1) it really looks like they enjoy what they are doing 2) it really appears they can separate their "work"life from their real lives- they can do the nastiest stuff in the world, and at the end of the day it just a job, they can go on with their everyday lives. there don't appear to be any hangups. this is every man's dream- no strings attached sex. the fact they are hot/or cute is icing on the cake. 3) some of the themes of the videos are bizarre, but it is such a turn-on (to me anyways). western porn companies would NEVER get involved in them: I'll give examples and movies codes: the bus tours (MIRD-141), gloryholes (SDDE-331, 365), the newsreader sex scenes (SDDE-318), the wall of pussys, the most bizarre thing I've ever scene (SDMS-869), the 15 (appx) women on one man movie which I don't know how he lasted 30 seconds (FSET-357), getting banged and going on with their job like nothing was happening (RCT-486) any bukakkee movies, I mean would a hot babe like Lexi Belle have 30 men gak all over her face. I don't think so, yet you see a very attractive female (Yui Hatano i think is her name) in RCT-360 getting the baby batter from about 30 men while reading the news. I could go on and on - I mean you never see these here in the states - I mean renting out a bus- what bus company here would allow that??? I cannot go back to western porn. Its too boring.
 

Supmop

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JAV have more innovations and variations than western porn, especially in fetish and JAV use regular type guys, some of them ugly, JAV are interesting and entertaining for most mans

but if you ask to females (like I did a small polling) most of the females prefer to watch western porn
 

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i prefer american porn. the japanese girls are incredible , the scenarios in japan porn are better but the japanese porn actors are so boring... i want to see mei matsumoto, utsunomiya shion, julia ,shiraki yuko, or others wonderful JAV in american companie like brazzers bangbros naughty america etc... it would be epic
 

Supmop

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i prefer american porn. the japanese girls are incredible , the scenarios in japan porn are better but the japanese porn actors are so boring... i want to see mei matsumoto, utsunomiya shion, julia ,shiraki yuko, or others wonderful JAV in american companie like brazzers bangbros naughty america etc... it would be epic

So far that I know is still very rare for Japanese female performers to work AV outside Japan

maybe because japanese AV company pay much larger than american company ?