JAV VR: News, comments about releases, recommendations, hardware

[Walle12]

I have zero experience with VR, perhaps adding to my apprehension. Once I have accumulated enough expendable income I'll take the dive - very much looking forward to it. It will probably be an overwhelming experience, seeing them up so close and personal. Hopefully that'll sever any lingering desire I have for flat material.

In my case, I haven't watched a flat porn in the last 3 or 4 years. They don't excite me anymore, they have no interest. The only thing I watch in flat is what's not in VR, like lesbian.

Wish I knew someone with a headset. I originally did assume that the experience would be akin to standing really close to a TV/monitor, though that seems to be a far cry from the reality. Baffling to me. Magical technology. Looking forward to testing out depth perception especially.

No, it has nothing to do with watching TV from too close. That's what I thought.

There are two things in VR that leave you speechless (at least me). The first, what you mention, the depth perception, seeing everything in 3D. Even if you had the same image on a TV, it would be a flat image, and that doesn't fool your brain, you know you're looking at a screen.
But being inside a 3D image (not watching, inside), makes your brain start to perceive the environment as real, and that increases the realism of the porn to incredible levels, it excites you much more than a flat image.

The second is the real size. If you look at a person's full body on a cell phone screen, they are 4 or 5 centimeters tall. If you see them on a TV, they're maybe half a meter, maybe a meter. Even if you have a giant TV and you see it life-size, it's still flat.

In VR everything is life-size, you see the girl as she is, and in 3D, it's completely real, like having her a few centimeters in front of you. You can feel her. If the movie has a good resolution, it hardly differs from reality.

I never want to watch a video with a guy in it ever again. Just me and the woman, as nature intended.

That is the big difference. You no longer have to watch another guy, sometimes quite nasty, doing it with the girl, where you're just a voyeur. In VR you're the one doing it with the girl. She's talking to you, she's caressing and kissing you, and she's doing it with you. That changes everything.
Of course, sometime you see the actor's feet, hands, but your brain learns to ignore it, to turn them invisible, and you imagine that they are your hands and feet, or you don't pay attention to them at all.

We've discussed it here, there are people who have feelings of guilt when watching VR, like cheating on their girlfriend or wife with someone else, something that doesn't happen in flat porn, because of the realism and the fact that the girl is talking to you, kissing you, and doing it with you.

Looking forward to seeing the differences between 4k (the bulk of my collection) and 8k.

In Quest the difference is not very big, it is a little noticeable. But it shows. In PC VR, where a good graphic card can apply supersampling and MSAA filtering even to 8K video, the difference between 4K and 8K is quite noticeable.

The humanisation of actresses in VR is fascinating

Yes, it is. I have experimented it myself. When you see a famous actress in VR, you're going to appreciate her for who she really is, at least physically, and you're also going to discover flaws that you don't see in flat porn. You'll notice a scar, a stretch mark, a skin defect... That makes you see them as real women, not as distant actresses in a movie.

You also feel their penetrating gaze when they look into your eyes, a caress, a kiss, a whisper in the ear... New angles while they make love to you... All that doesn't exist on flat porn, it's something you discover when you experience VR.

There are many people who reject VR out of ignorance, because it is out of their budget, or because they have only tried poor quality VR with a phone, which is a disaster, nothing to do with a VR headset. But I am sure that if many more people tried it, they would be amazed because it is not what they imagine it to be. It's much better.

 

[enduraVR]

In my case, I haven't watched a flat porn in the last 3 or 4 years. They don't excite me anymore, they have no interest. The only thing I watch in flat is what's not in VR, like lesbian.

Incredible - the sort of lifestyle I wish to lead. Disregard everything extraneous and focus only on what you truly enjoy, no exceptions. Often found myself tempted by material I'd inevitably regret using upon finishing. Look forward to having those days far behind me.

...in VR everything is life-size, you see the girl as she is, and in 3D, it's completely real, like having her a few centimeters in front of you. You can feel her. If the movie has a good resolution, it hardly differs from reality.

Having no frame of reference, I find this mind-boggling. Truly something you have to experience to comprehend I guess. About a decade of flat porn consumption has moulded my perception of what to expect from porn. Can barely contain my excitement!

That is the big difference. You no longer have to watch another guy, sometimes quite nasty, doing it with the girl, where you're just a voyeur. In VR you're the one doing it with the girl. She's talking to you, she's caressing and kissing you, and she's doing it with you. That changes everything.
Of course, sometime you see the actor's feet, hands, but your brain learns to ignore it, to turn them invisible, and you imagine that they are your hands and feet, or you don't pay attention to them at all.

We've discussed it here, there are people who have feelings of guilt when watching VR, like cheating on their girlfriend or wife with someone else, something that doesn't happen in flat porn, because of the realism and the fact that the girl is talking to you, kissing you, and doing it with you.

My largest gripe (of many) with flat porn is the male actors themselves. I appreciate their service, but would rather not see any part of their body or hear them grunt, moan, or expel any other noises. POV often angered me as in many titles the guy would still moan; massively immersion-breaking. I wish to be centre frame, which VR seems to excel at.

Some report on feeling terribly lonely after taking off the headset, others deeply satisfied. I have no hang ups regarding my usage of porn, nor ties to a significant other, so hope to enjoy myself to the fullest.

There are many people who reject VR out of ignorance, because it is out of their budget or because they have only tried poor quality VR with a phone, which is a disaster, nothing to do with a VR headset. But I am sure that if many more people tried it, they would be amazed because it is not what they imagine it to be. It's much better.

VR was made for those of us that wish to diverge from the beaten path and I'm thankful for it. Flat solo female content only has so much mileage. There are a number of fetish titles from studios like KMP (e.g. VRKM-635) that I'd love to purchase when the time comes. I have zero gripes with paying for titles that are otherwise unattainable - as long as it can be downloaded to my hard drive (meaning it doesn't require a native proprietary player) and that Japanese VR remains true to its ethos. I've seen your complaints regarding how you feel JAV VR is regressing in certain areas that you value (many I do too). Great videos are few and far between, but when they appear they truly hit the spot (based solely from how they appear in a flat video player - in VR, I'm sure they're sublime).

 

[Walle12]

Well, maybe I'm setting your expectations too high, I don't want you to be disappointed later, ha ha.... But I think you're going to like it...

POV often angered me as in many titles the guy would still moan; massively immersion-breaking.

Fortunately, there are no men's moans in VR. They take great care in this aspect, and the actors are silent.

I have zero gripes with paying for titles that are otherwise unattainable - as long as it can be downloaded to my hard drive (meaning it doesn't require a native proprietary player)

Unfortunately the only store where you can buy JAV VR and download without DRM, to watch it wherever you want, is A Festa VR . They only have KMP, SOD VR, and some other minor studios.

 

[enduraVR]

Fortunately, there are no men's moans in VR. They take great care in this aspect, and the actors are silent.

I can only name a few titles that were spoiled due to audible male breathing during scenes of high exertion (e.g. DSVR-1229 or CJVR-024 - usually heard during doggystyle or face-to-face missionary), but overall very pleased with their quality control. Western VR seems to be plagued with that issue. Attention to detail is appreciated.

Unfortunately the only store where you can buy JAV VR and download without DRM, to watch it wherever you want, is A Festa VR . They only have KMP, SOD VR, and some other minor studios.

That's fine... yeah, no issues with that. Both studios have a number of desirable titles. In terms of quantity, kawaii VR and SOD VR make up nearly 50% of my current collection. Though most titles I have feature multiple actresses, I am especially excited to experience single actress ones.

Have you watched any licking themed videos (e.g. VRKM-1047)? They look erotic in flat, but curious to hear how it translates in 3D.

 

[Itsabiggapepperoni]

I do want to ask you guys: can you approach VR videos in a similar manner to flat?

You can, but with the added quirk of having a bulky headset on your face, that cuts you off from the rest of the world. So you really need to have some time for yourself to get into it.

You can just sit or lay down. Vr apps have options to adjust zoom and angle at will, so you can always match what you see as close as possible to reality. I do try and match my position most of the time, but with some angles it can be a bit of a workout

With that said, if you're adventurous, you can really immerse yourself by following what the actors are doing, and/or using sex toys. With a proper set up- I won't say it comes close to real sex, but it might be the next best thing.

I hope to purchase a Quest standalone by the end of the year.

If you don't have a good pc setup, quest is definitely the way to go. You could get Quest 2 for a good price and it's really good hardware, but Quest 3 is a big improvement, and going to be supported longer.

I remember my first vr experience. It was a terrible headset with a phone strapped to your head, and the worst possible quality, blurry video- but even then, the effect was mind blowing. I can only imagine a reaction to an 8k video in a new headset.

Looking forward to seeing the differences between 4k (the bulk of my collection) and 8k.

Just FYI, resolution in vr works very differently. In flat video, you're looking at a relatively small rectangle in front of you. In vr, that rectangle has to be stretched to fill your entire field if vision. So 4k flat is pretty much perfect, but in vr 4k is just "good enough"

 

[Itsabiggapepperoni]

Have you watched any licking themed videos (e.g. VRKM-1047)? They look erotic in flat, but curious to hear how it translates in 3D.

I have a bit of an oral fixation, and i can tell you it looks very good in VR. I have some scenes with Yumika Saeki, Ranran, or Ayaka Mochizuki saved for just that reason.
By the way, some things in VR, like being licked or having a girl drool in your mouth don't have an equivalent in 2d, and it's quite an experience

 

[enduraVR]

You can just sit or lay down. Vr apps have options to adjust zoom and angle at will, so you can always match what you see as close as possible to reality. I do try and match my position most of the time, but with some angles it can be a bit of a workout

Have you found that position changes in videos usually requires a change in angle/zoom also, or are most titles just plug and play? I've seen a couple VR fans talk about it being a bit of a faff, especially when in the moment.

If you don't have a good pc setup, quest is definitely the way to go. You could get Quest 2 for a good price and it's really good hardware, but Quest 3 is a big improvement, and going to be supported longer.

I remember my first vr experience. It was a terrible headset with a phone strapped to your head, and the worst possible quality, blurry video- but even then, the effect was mind blowing. I can only imagine a reaction to an 8k video in a new headset.

The Quest 3's pancake lenses, from everything I understand, makes it the more enticing model, but of course comes with a larger price tag. I've heard the 2 has a narrower sweet spot; of course, having no hands-on experience with any HMD is frustrating. Research is only so useful. Will most certainly get the 3, but whether to get the 128 or 512 is another question. Ideally I'd have the videos on the device itself, but transferring 100s of GBs would be very inconvenient given the slow transfer rate. Streaming shouldn't be an issue, but not how I'd prefer to watch - but won't complain.

Never got to experience phone vr. My current phone has a 720p panel, so would most likely look horrible. VR must be awesome if it still managed to wow you given the poor hardware at the time.

I have a bit of an oral fixation, and i can tell you it looks very good in VR. I have some scenes with Yumika Saeki, Ranran, or Ayaka Mochizuki saved for just that reason.

Ranran is incredible - bummed out about her retirement. Luckily, she's left behind a slew of great single and multi-actress titles for us to enjoy.

By the way, some things in VR, like being licked or having a girl drool in your mouth don't have an equivalent in 2d, and it's quite an experience

Not sure how long I'll be able to withstand this tension! A HMD has priority for my next big purchase, assuredly.

 

[Walle12]

I can only name a few titles that were spoiled due to audible male breathing during scenes of high exertion (e.g. DSVR-1229 or CJVR-024 - usually heard during doggystyle or face-to-face missionary)

Yes, there are some titles, but they are the exception. As you say, it's much worse in western VR. For someone who has never tried VR, you have good knowledge of VR movies.... Have you seen them all flat?

Have you watched any licking themed videos (e.g. VRKM-1047)? They look erotic in flat, but curious to hear how it translates in 3D.

No, because those types of scenes appear quite a bit within movies, and I wasn't particularly attracted to a specific title on the subject. But as Itsabigiggapepperoni says, that kind of intimacy is awesome in VR....

A little jealous that I never got to experience phone "vr", haha. Remember the adverts for them. My current phone has a 720p panel, so would most likely look horrible.

Don't be jealous. The experience with a phone is terrible, many have abandoned VR because they thought everything looked the same as with the phone. It's not worth it, it spoils you the first time. Plus as you say, with a 720p screen you're just going to see smudges instead of chicks....

Have you found that position changes videos usually requires a change in angle/zoom also, or are most titles just plug and play? I've seen a couple VR fans talk about it being a bit of a faff, especially when in the moment.

It depends on your position, and the film. I almost always have to change the angle on the face-to-face cowgirl. Zoom is a matter of taste. But at the touch of a button on the control, you do it almost automatically.

 

[enduraVR]

For someone who has never tried VR, you have good knowledge of VR movies.... Have you seen them all flat?

Essentially yes, haha. I've been through each VR studio's catalogue over the last year and watched a fair number of titles from each, those that piqued my interest. I'm constantly going back through them and checking for titles I've either missed or noting those that I'll need to purchase. I use a free web cloud service (mypikpak) that allows you to view torrents before downloading them, so I could test them all and check for quirks and whatnot. Has proven a useful tool indeed.

I've seen a number of people on r/Oculusnsfw call for more non-POV vr titles (similar to SIVR-259 I guess). Watching others have sex in VR... hm... I guess it could be classed as voyeurism or cuckoldry maybe, but certainly not my cup of tea. That SIVR-259 was one of the first titles I watched and it bothered me immensely, haha. No males please!

Don't be jealous. The experience with a phone is horrible, many have abandoned VR because they thought everything looked the same as with the phone. It's not worth it, it spoils you the first time. Plus as you say, with a 720p screen you're just going to see smudges instead of chicks....

Very true, haha. Though I'm envious of early tech adopters, we have the privilege of jumping in when the tech has matured.

It depends on your position, and the film. I almost always have to change the angle on the face-to-face cowgirl. Zoom is a matter of taste. But at the touch of a button on the control, you do it almost automatically.

Awesome. Seems fairly intuitive

 

[Walle12]

I can't stand non-POV in VR, it's even more disgusting than in flat because there's a ugly guy in front of you, in 3D and life-size. I don't want to see a 3D penis in front of my face, or a hairy ass next to me, thanks....

Some people don't mind but in my case, I neither watch nor buy non-POV VRs... except for Lesbian VR. I only like non-POV with lesbian VR. So few titles...

 

[enduraVR]

There are a number of actresses I like who are absent from VR. As VR continues to develop, I hope to see more flat actresses dip their toes into the world of VR.

Are there any actresses from your time in flat porn that you are pining for a VR release from? Or perhaps any actresses that haven't done a VR in a long while? Popular actresses like Momonogi Kana and Nao Jinguji, to name a few, haven't shot one in years for some reason. I'd love to know the VR selection process. New talents get their shot at S1 and Idea Pocket consistently, yet a select group of their exclusives are MIA in VR... I'm certainly grateful for whatever is produced, but still.

As for lesbian VR, would love to get my hands on KAVR-209...

Bibian, Ebisusan - a VR lesbian non-POV studio would be incredible. I've seen a few lesbian titles from the female perspective, but not my cup of tea.

 

[icantnomore]

There are a number of actresses I like who are absent from VR. As VR continues to develop, I hope to see more flat actresses dip their toes into the world of VR.

Are there any actresses from your time in flat porn that you are pining for a VR release from? Or perhaps any actresses that haven't done a VR in a long while? Popular actresses like Momonogi Kana and Nao Jinguji, to name a few, haven't shot one in years for some reason. I'd love to know the VR selection process. New talents get their shot at S1 and Idea Pocket consistently, yet a select group of their exclusives are MIA in VR... I'm certainly grateful for whatever is produced, but still.

As for lesbian VR, would love to get my hands on KAVR-209...

Bibian, Ebisusan - a VR lesbian non-POV studio would be incredible. I've seen a few lesbian titles from the female perspective, but not my cup of tea.

I totally agree with you... I miss Momonogi Kana in VR... I wish Amatsuka Moe would do some VR... as I'm sure a lot of people might wish, as well.
At least Kaede Karen was released the other day, although it wasn't as great as I had expected. Hashimoto Arina is coming out in one tomorrow...!

 

[Walle12]

I don't miss anyone especially in VR. If anything, I would like to see more VR with some stars.

The good thing about watching only VR for 4 years is that I don't follow the girls in flat, so I don't know them. Of the ones I knew before, more or less all of them have shot in VR. But it's true that some of them only shoot one VR every 2 or 3 years. For example, I miss more VRs of Suzu Honjo or Mei Washio.

I totally agree with you... I miss Momonogi Kana in VR...

Momo recorded a VR last year... A free movie that DMM gave away for the release of 8K movies. And it's pretty cool, it's a complete movie. You can download here.
But it's what we talked about, the big studios use their star actresses very little in VR.

As for lesbian VR, would love to get my hands on KAVR-209...

Bibian, Ebisusan - a VR lesbian non-POV studio would be incredible. I've seen a few lesbian titles from the female perspective, but not my cup of tea.

I was quite disappointed with KAVR-209. The camera is too far away, you see the girls almost two meters away, you see nothing. It is a very poorly shot film.

The best lesbian VR that has been shot in recent years is URVRSP-245. The camera is close and you see the girls kissing and licking each other from 30 centimeters away. And in non-POV, as it should be.

These shots, in you face, 3D and real-size... WOW:

Another very good one is DSVR-01120. It's POV, but since there are three girls, at least you can see what two of them are doing each other...

Unfortunately, movies like those come out once every couple of years... Among more than 1,000 VRs that are produced per year....

Bibian, Ebisusan - a VR lesbian non-POV studio would be incredible.

That's just what we need, that Bibian returns to VR, I would buy all titles. The VR movies they released a few years ago are very good.

 

[chewbaka]

On the PC I have installed the K-Lite Standard codecs, and with that I can watch them without any problems. With Quest standalone, I think it is not possible to

I'm also on PC with K-Lite installed. Yet some videos just go wonky the moment I try to open them in Heresphere.

I wonder if I need to do a fresh reinstallation of codecs...

 

[Walle12]

Maybe you PC can't handle them, or you are using too much supersampling and MSAA filter. They are 4K or 8K?

 

[chewbaka]

Maybe you PC can't handle them, or you are using too much supersampling and MSAA filter. They are 4K or 8K?

Pretty sure my PC can handle it. Its not some dinosaur of a machine although it is using a Radeon card and many codecs or algorithms out there tend to be optimized towards NVidia.

The videos play fine when I open them in Media Player Classic. But there's 2 places where they go wonky. One is Heresphere. The other is within xbvr which also has an internal player that can combine the video into 1 flat image. The videos won't open in xbvr too, not sure why.

But once I can figure that out, I think it should also fix the Heresphere issue.

 

[Walle12]

I've read that Radeon can't decode VP9, and it has to be done by the CPU. Check it out because that might be the problem.

 

[chewbaka]

Man, I recently watched a few videos that would have been really great if it weren't for another guy just getting in the way.

First is HNVR-016. It has both Urara Kanon and Nagase Yui in it which is a classic combo of cuties. Unfortunately, the first clip only has Urara cozying up to you on her own. You don't even get any action yet but the other guy is already getting blown by Yui.



Yui does start to ride you in the 2nd clip, but than that other idiot is off to the left watching while jerking off, wtf. He's only around for the start and scoots off rather quickly after he 'cums'. Its still annoying.


You only get a 3-some with both girls in the final clip without that guy being in the shot, but having only 1 clip in 3 being any good spoils the whole title already. Such a great combo of girls ruined by whoever thought it was a good idea to have another guy in it. Bah...

Than there's MDVR-128. I really like Aiga Mizuki but she doesn't have a lot of VR and even less with Moodyz which usually makes quality stuff. But the first clip is a 3-some...the wrong type unfortunately.


He disappears after the first clip and you do get her all to yourself in the other 3 clips, but unfortunately this title also happened during her silicon phase hence the off-center nipple. What a waste. She was otherwise really sexy in this title. Thank goodness she eventually got those removed, but they do spoil a few of her titles.

I really don't get why she did that boob job. Her breasts didn't get much bigger and the surgeon clearly did a shitty job to allow a nipple drift like that. I mean Mori Hinako's breasts at least were a significant upgrade in cup size and her nipples don't drift off center as drastically like this.


Finally, there's WAVR-221. With both Tenma Yui and Hamasaki Mao in it, this title is a winner already. Emoto Ayami isn't as pretty but its not like she's completely overshadowed either. Unfortunately, the first 2 clips are ruined by...goddamit, its that guy again and he's an unwelcome intruder to the party.

Dammit, if only he took Ayami and went off far to the side, I could have overlooked it. Unfortunately, Yui and Mao do take turns to entertain him too and he gets into the frame himself far too often to be ignored.


You only get all 3 girls to yourself in the 3rd clip. Such wasted potential...

What the heck were the directors thinking? I dare say most of us got VR specifically cos we don't like seeing another guy around.

 

[enduraVR]

What the heck were the directors thinking? I dare say most of us got VR specifically cos we don't like seeing another guy around.

Hear, hear!

The male actors won't go away that easily, haha. Glad that titles like that and URVRSP-235 are released infrequently. They allow for the viewer to live out their orgy/porn star dreams, but the presence of other guys kills any eroticism.

Not anti-fake breasts, but Aiga's there do look unfortunate. For some actresses (like the re-debuted Itsukaichi Mei) it looks natural. But for most actresses it's blaringly obvious. Incorrect implant size, too low body fat - can't just slap on bolt ons and expect them to look good (unless that is the desired aesthetic - looking at you Eimi Fukada).

Are you opposed to downloading single scenes from otherwise mediocre titles? Started out downloading indiscriminately, but now lean toward a complete package. Feels... more substantial, I guess. There are no rules to this hobby other than ones self-imposed, of course.

HNVR-016 came out in early 2020. Do you find the (presumably) lower resolution/visual fidelity to be immersion-breaking, or do videos from that time (2019-2021) still have utility in 2024? Have a number of videos on my wish-list from SODVR and KMP from that era.

 

[enduraVR]

This has been brought up earlier in the thread, but found noteworthy to mention again; noticed that the 8K files on A Festa are significantly larger than the ones on torrent sites.

Random example:
Free 3DSVR-1394 8K = 9.2GB
Paid 3DSVR-1394 8K = 34.50GB

A 73% file size reduction! If I understand correctly, the bitrate is very low on the pirated version as a trade-off.
Hard drives are cheap, so I have no issue upgrading the few "8K" low bit-rate videos in my collection with the paid, larger versions.

If you've had the chance to compare the two, have you found there to be a significant difference in viewing experience?