Name the currently most beautiful AV Idol. Surprise Me.

There are no problem with Shoko at all, every woman without makeup is like that. After all she's still cute and with makeup she's even more gorgeous. I agree with the first, i never like watching her on prestige series, lucky me.

Anyway for now i think Momo Sakura and Maria Aine are the prettiest.
 
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The term beauty is rather subjective, I rather judge them sans cosmetics :-

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I think it is misleading to compare different photos taken by different photographers with different cameras under different lighting conditions. A studio picture vs. a home webcam picture? It is not fair.

But it is true, JAV usually does a great job presenting women. It's a large part of why JAV and better than porn from other countries.
 
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Well, out of those girls that you named I only find Shoko Takahashi beautiful, so I think our tastes are quite different, but I'd recommend

Masami Ichikawa

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But honestly, if you just look at the roster of the big studios like Moodyz, IdeaPocket, S1 N1 Style, and Prestige's ABP label you're bound to find some beautiful girls.

I would like to think sometime, somehow, there will be a JAV starlet that finishes their porn career and successfully breaks into the mainstream in a real, substantial way. If that is ever going to happen, I sincerely hope that woman turns out to be Masami!
 
Well, out of those girls that you named I only find Shoko Takahashi beautiful, so I think our tastes are quite different, but I'd recommend

Masami Ichikawa

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But honestly, if you just look at the roster of the big studios like Moodyz, IdeaPocket, S1 N1 Style, and Prestige's ABP label you're bound to find some beautiful girls.

To be correct, Idea Pocket >>>>> all on provide beautiful girls/ idol, looks at their line up. Moodyz has Shoko Takahashi, S1 has Yua Mikami, and now ID has Momo Sakura, interesting triangle. Prestige have some beautiful girls but they lack of godly tier like the previous 3 :p
 
To be correct, Idea Pocket >>>>> all on provide beautiful girls/ idol, looks at their line up. Moodyz has Shoko Takahashi, S1 has Yua Mikami, and now ID has Momo Sakura, interesting triangle. Prestige have some beautiful girls but they lack of godly tier like the previous 3 :p

Yua Mikami wasn't the best looking girls during her teenage years when she audition for a morning show and when she join ske48. http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Kito_Momona http://www.ldblog.jp/archives/799731.html
 
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Yua Mikami wasn't the best looking girls during her teenage years when she audition for a morning show and when she join ske48. http://stage48.net/wiki/index.php/Kito_Momona http://www.ldblog.jp/archives/799731.html
I didn't even look at this thread until I got really bored today, but here I am finally and thanks for the interesting links.

Why AV fans obsess about the un-make-up pix of celebs and idols? We are not 12 years old boys, are we? Once you have a girlfriend, not just a date or two, but a GF who might let out a fart around you, and let you see her un-make-up bad hair day, you will not be shocked by these pre-/post- make up pix, especially if you have a camera and have the burden to shoot a most beautiful photo for a girl (any girl).

Anyway I'm perfectly happy if an idol may look like a hag in real life as long as she makes good AV. Make-up, camera tricks, even photoshop (maybe in the future AVshop will do for videos what Photoshop is doing for DVD covers today). Why do I care? Oh let's not forget plastic surgery.

Here @silent1one found absolute proof that Mikami had her entire face changed from her teens. The gallery at the bottom of the 48-wiki page is like a timelapse of how to make an android (replicant). The funny thing is @silent1one said "wasn't the best looking girls during her teenage", well she still isn't the best looking now. Even with surgeries, make up, camera tricks and PS.

Doesn't matter, I still like her. All the surgery etc only matters I ever have her as a GF , then I have to figure... a lifetime budget for make-up and surgery, and having kids would be strange too, her genes aren't the beautiful subtypes. But let's be real, I only need to worry about her looks on pix and vids.
 
Anyway I'm perfectly happy if an idol may look like a hag in real life as long as she makes good AV.

I'm not. I've always been in favour of natural beauties. If a girl's only beautiful with make-up on she's not beautiful. Sure, a little make-up is okay to enhance her looks, not to completely change them from ugly to beautiful, because then I feel cheated. I hate when I look at a girl and have to wonder "what kind of monster's lurking beneath all that make-up?".

Here's a link of Asian girls with and without make-up on. There are some brutal ones, but then again, some are actually attractive without make-up. I'd prefer my favourite AV actresses to be in the latter group.
 
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I'm not. I've always been in favour of natural beauties. If a girl's only beautiful with make-up on she's not beautiful. Sure, a little make-up is okay to enhance her looks, not to completely change them from ugly to beautiful, because then I feel cheated. I hate when I look at a girl and have to wonder "what kind of monster's lurking beneath all that make-up?".

Here's a link of Asian girls with and without make-up on. There are some brutal ones, but then again, some are actually attractive without make-up. I'd prefer my favourite AV actresses to be in the latter group.
Well... my angle is that (1) I'm pretty realistic, or you can say cynical about these things, like when I watch sports, all the drug testing and doping and enforcement in the world won't convince me that sports is "clean". I still watch sports knowing these biomechaniod wonders of technology with pea-size testicles and pickled livers are doing it for glory and mass entertainment. I see AV idols, celebs, TV anchor, politicians even insurance salespersons and real estate agents, I say these men and women get needles and knives at least once a few years. Minor procedures like needles probably 3 times a year.

Problem with memes and photos and GIFs is that one or two or three pix doesn't tell you the truth, any more than the DVD covers. Yes with make-up she looks more beautiful than "she is", just as a bad or even malicious pic can make someone look a lot uglier than "she is". The bias you guys have is that you see one bad pix and you assume she's a "monster". But the more correct bias is tilt towards the beautiful, because ugliness can be masked only a little bit by make-up. The average women, can gain (say) (randomly saying) 20 points by good make-up in a 100 point scale, but that bring them up to say 70-85 points. If you see a woman who's a 90 or 95, even taking off the make-up she would still be a 75. And if you find 75 not enough, that means not she's ugly, but you need to come out of your room at least once a week.

On the contrary, a bad picture can make someone who's a 75 or 95 looks like a 30. Meaning, a great photo prove a woman is at least pretty (if not as beautiful as the photo) but a bad photo doesn't prove she's ugly. She may be, she may be not. More photos would of course change the equation, but often these discussion are going off to deep space from just one or a few questionable pix.

(2) it's just experience. There are many pair-of-pix with or w/o make-up that shock you guys. Whereas I only need to look at the with-make-up picture and tell she's not beautiful. For purpose of fapping, with make-up many are good enough, but there are quite a few, even with make-up, isn't up to the fapping standard.

Often you guys look at a picture, especially DVD cover, and you get very impressed. I don't get impressed so much, I just look at them for the purpose of fapping, that's not a high standard, I can fap to any marginally pretty girl. Say a thought experiment, I can go to a local McDonald's, if by some magical arrangement I can pick the most attractive 10% of the women at that restaurant at any random time. All of these top 10% women at a random McDonalds, with make-up, with good lighting, good camera and skills, can make a photo more beautiful than a typical S1 or Moodyz cover.

That's just talking about my local district, if I travel 20 mins to some trendy location, the ratio can easily shot up to 40-50%.

Or flip it around, take 4 of my current favs in AV: Shoko, Rion, Yua and Julia. If I rank them against, 100 women at say... a trendy bar Friday night in my city. Shoko may place at top 10 or even top 5 (won't bet on no. 1). Rion would be top 20. Yua would be down below 50, Julia is more difficult to say, some angles she looks good (say at 30), some angles she look quite bad (below 75). (BTW this is just mainly focus on face)
 
Are we talking about JAV or KAV/ Kpop star? Because as i see there are no any so much makeup on JAV idol. Or you can pin-point some for me, can you? Please. And if you can, i'm pretty sure she is not on my list, not catch my attention on the first time to watch her vids so i'm happy with my eyes. So a little makeup to enhance their cute/ beauty is alright for me, not like the boring Kpop star with their ton of makeup on. Anyway i'm so happy that my one and only all time idol Yuu Namiki still pretty with or without makeup, just saying. I don't see the point to agrue here, we're watching them on screen, so as long as they are pretty on screen, isn't enough? You guys always asking for too much, want a girl like Leah Dizon on JAV? On your dream.
 
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Well... my angle is that (1) I'm pretty realistic, or you can say cynical about these things, like when I watch sports, all the drug testing and doping and enforcement in the world won't convince me that sports is "clean". I still watch sports knowing these biomechaniod wonders of technology with pea-size testicles and pickled livers are doing it for glory and mass entertainment. I see AV idols, celebs, TV anchor, politicians even insurance salespersons and real estate agents, I say these men and women get needles and knives at least once a few years. Minor procedures like needles probably 3 times a year.

Problem with memes and photos and GIFs is that one or two or three pix doesn't tell you the truth, any more than the DVD covers. Yes with make-up she looks more beautiful than "she is", just as a bad or even malicious pic can make someone look a lot uglier than "she is". The bias you guys have is that you see one bad pix and you assume she's a "monster". But the more correct bias is tilt towards the beautiful, because ugliness can be masked only a little bit by make-up. The average women, can gain (say) (randomly saying) 20 points by good make-up in a 100 point scale, but that bring them up to say 70-85 points. If you see a woman who's a 90 or 95, even taking off the make-up she would still be a 75. And if you find 75 not enough, that means not she's ugly, but you need to come out of your room at least once a week.

On the contrary, a bad picture can make someone who's a 75 or 95 looks like a 30. Meaning, a great photo prove a woman is at least pretty (if not as beautiful as the photo) but a bad photo doesn't prove she's ugly. She may be, she may be not. More photos would of course change the equation, but often these discussion are going off to deep space from just one or a few questionable pix.

(2) it's just experience. There are many pair-of-pix with or w/o make-up that shock you guys. Whereas I only need to look at the with-make-up picture and tell she's not beautiful. For purpose of fapping, with make-up many are good enough, but there are quite a few, even with make-up, isn't up to the fapping standard.

Often you guys look at a picture, especially DVD cover, and you get very impressed. I don't get impressed so much, I just look at them for the purpose of fapping, that's not a high standard, I can fap to any marginally pretty girl. Say a thought experiment, I can go to a local McDonald's, if by some magical arrangement I can pick the most attractive 10% of the women at that restaurant at any random time. All of these top 10% women at a random McDonalds, with make-up, with good lighting, good camera and skills, can make a photo more beautiful than a typical S1 or Moodyz cover.

That's just talking about my local district, if I travel 20 mins to some trendy location, the ratio can easily shot up to 40-50%.

Or flip it around, take 4 of my current favs in AV: Shoko, Rion, Yua and Julia. If I rank them against, 100 women at say... a trendy bar Friday night in my city. Shoko may place at top 10 or even top 5 (won't bet on no. 1). Rion would be top 20. Yua would be down below 50, Julia is more difficult to say, some angles she looks good (say at 30), some angles she look quite bad (below 75). (BTW this is just mainly focus on face)


i'm fine if av idols or regular girls in general if they have surgery as long as the before and after isn't a total trainwreck or unidentifable. Also, if they're still nice people, I don't see the problem except when you have kids. However, Genetics can't fool anyone if they don't come clean about their surgery past prior to committing a deeper relationship.

Yua Mikami went from a teen that failed at the morning musune audition to an ok idol at a B-rank idol group to one of the best selling av idol today thanks to surgery. Her popularity and salary rivals of the A-list av idols like Maria Ozawa and Sora Aoi in the past. She's quite a heavy spender and brag about buying an apartment before. It's easy to dig up works from anyone today because of social media. A lot of av idols have some work done. Some could be minor like Aino Kishi and Rio might have their nose and jaws fixed to look smaller and sharper respectively.

I assume you need to be at least 18 or with parent supervision to get surgery, but here's some link I favorited and posted on other forum detailing the change in Yua Mikami facial appearance. If she wants to make it big as an idol and be respected like a cute girl, she gotta undergo surgery in order to compete with other girls. She did a good job. She possess a very dark skin tone, but nothing compares to Aika, though hers is combine with regular tanning salon visit.
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I'm not sure if Yua was the joke of ske48 sometimes, because she got tease at muscat for being dumb in trivia and knowledge test, but that doesn't make her a dumb girl at socializing.

We don't know about her boobs, but Takasho/Shoko looked around the same when she was 18-19 according to the date and probably the time this bts video was filmed.

Gravure idol rio uchilda seems like a natural beauty. She's still very slim and flat today too comparing to 7 years ago when she was 18.
 
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I see AV idols, celebs, TV anchor, politicians even insurance salespersons and real estate agents, I say these men and women get needles and knives at least once a few years. Minor procedures like needles probably 3 times a year.

I'm not sure where you live (was it HK?) but that sounds crazy. That's not the norm here at all!

I agree that there are bad pics and that judging someone after one photo is not fair, but at the same time you can't know for sure if that's their worst photo without make-up or their best... I might be too quick to form an opinion on someone's look based on just one photo, but if that's all there is I can't help it. So it is what it is.

But the more correct bias is tilt towards the beautiful, because ugliness can be masked only a little bit by make-up.

Really? I couldn't disagree more. Seriously, just look at those girls at the other end of that link that I provided. The difference is MASSIVE when it comes to some of them. Sure, taste plays a part, but still.

For the (2) part, that's just mostly about your taste, so I can't comment, but here it wouldn't be like that at all as far as my taste is concerned. But then again, I don't live in Asia, so who knows what I'd think if I did.
 
Well... my angle is that (1) I'm pretty realistic, or you can say cynical about these things, like when I watch sports, all the drug testing and doping and enforcement in the world won't convince me that sports is "clean". I still watch sports knowing these biomechaniod wonders of technology with pea-size testicles and pickled livers are doing it for glory and mass entertainment. I see AV idols, celebs, TV anchor, politicians even insurance salespersons and real estate agents, I say these men and women get needles and knives at least once a few years. Minor procedures like needles probably 3 times a year.

Problem with memes and photos and GIFs is that one or two or three pix doesn't tell you the truth, any more than the DVD covers. Yes with make-up she looks more beautiful than "she is", just as a bad or even malicious pic can make someone look a lot uglier than "she is". The bias you guys have is that you see one bad pix and you assume she's a "monster". But the more correct bias is tilt towards the beautiful, because ugliness can be masked only a little bit by make-up. The average women, can gain (say) (randomly saying) 20 points by good make-up in a 100 point scale, but that bring them up to say 70-85 points. If you see a woman who's a 90 or 95, even taking off the make-up she would still be a 75. And if you find 75 not enough, that means not she's ugly, but you need to come out of your room at least once a week.

On the contrary, a bad picture can make someone who's a 75 or 95 looks like a 30. Meaning, a great photo prove a woman is at least pretty (if not as beautiful as the photo) but a bad photo doesn't prove she's ugly. She may be, she may be not. More photos would of course change the equation, but often these discussion are going off to deep space from just one or a few questionable pix.

(2) it's just experience. There are many pair-of-pix with or w/o make-up that shock you guys. Whereas I only need to look at the with-make-up picture and tell she's not beautiful. For purpose of fapping, with make-up many are good enough, but there are quite a few, even with make-up, isn't up to the fapping standard.

Often you guys look at a picture, especially DVD cover, and you get very impressed. I don't get impressed so much, I just look at them for the purpose of fapping, that's not a high standard, I can fap to any marginally pretty girl. Say a thought experiment, I can go to a local McDonald's, if by some magical arrangement I can pick the most attractive 10% of the women at that restaurant at any random time. All of these top 10% women at a random McDonalds, with make-up, with good lighting, good camera and skills, can make a photo more beautiful than a typical S1 or Moodyz cover.

That's just talking about my local district, if I travel 20 mins to some trendy location, the ratio can easily shot up to 40-50%.

Or flip it around, take 4 of my current favs in AV: Shoko, Rion, Yua and Julia. If I rank them against, 100 women at say... a trendy bar Friday night in my city. Shoko may place at top 10 or even top 5 (won't bet on no. 1). Rion would be top 20. Yua would be down below 50, Julia is more difficult to say, some angles she looks good (say at 30), some angles she look quite bad (below 75). (BTW this is just mainly focus on face)
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Seems that she appear to be a bit older than her usual self with the deeper eyebags and cheek folds.
 
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This is an easy one if where going off most beautiful not like hottest or cutest it's Yua Mikami + one of the few girls who looks better in videos than on covers. Kan/shiori yamate is up there too
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Mako Oda, hands down.

Scene 2 of RBD-666 followed by the bathroom scene, finishing a BJ with no hands.
SHKD-575 - kitchen scene, followed by the shower scene with no make up and the last scene (3 total)
SHKD-721 - the entire movie
JUY 113 - one of the best performances ever
RBD 410 - some of her older work, excellent angles
JUX 293 - amazing
JUX 727 - hot spring scene and the last scene
JUFD 560 - great foreplay skills, great performance
JUFD 613 - wildly amazing
ADN-061 - very talented
JUFD - 765 - great
JUX858
JUFD 598
JUFD 780 - best as of 2017