Sorry for being off topic but watching full AI generated 5-10 secs shorts make me not want to go back to real porn lol. Those AIs have started to become real good and they can create girls whose beauty you can't get IRL.
I definitely think the webcam industry and social media pulls a lot of talent away from the porn industry. More money and more validation for less work and fewer strangers you have to fuck.
But I think you can't discount the fact that the internet has desensitized us by showing us tens of thousands of beautiful women's faces. A decade of that is going to change the way a man gauges any new face he sees. And with internet porn you've seen so many different women so fast you've already made a lot of your best porn memories early on. So like with music, as you get older you spend more time revisiting and rediscovering old favorites than seeking out the new stuff with the same passion and open-mindedness you had when you first started.
In the early 10's, it was the whole "exposing the new talent of their personal and real social media and out them to everyone" that really dipped and then OF came in and now hot chicks are back but not doing mainstream adult work anymore, they learn they can make it themselves.
I'm not sure if it's just me but I feel like "exotic beauty" is even more subjective than "the beauty of your own race/nation etc." I mean, I've checked some of the names on the list above and they look average to me. Then again, I don't really remember any Japanese girl that got like a real "heart-throb" out of me. I guess when it comes to Asians, I'm operating more on the overall attractiveness (unlike with the Ebony girls, where we have girls like Jezabel Vessir whom I mentioned some time ago on the forum already, or, of course, Caucasians, where I can list multiple women whom I find beautiful like Lily Rader in her prime, or Sophie Dee, or Tessa Thrills, for example, or most freckled redheads just because I have a thing for them)
In JAV though, if I had to answer a question like, "Who in JAV do you find attractive enough to date?" I would say Mari Rika, Shirosaki Aoi, Kaise Anju, Natsume Airi, Kawakami Yuu (a beautiful older lady)... And that's it? Even though I can name at least 3 to 4 dozen JAV actresses, I find it difficult to remember anyone else. Maybe I'll need to have all their faces in front of me to name more
This almost does not overlap with my Top 10 (just 3 our of 10), which is another interesting phenomenon for me. I'll try to come back and expand this list if I remember anyone else
Okay, RION is also quite attractive face-wise, and considering she's on my Top 10 (pairs of) Tits list, she has a great advantage beyond that (or, an obvious joke, two advantages)
Another one from my (main) Top 10, Yuuri Maina, is borderline for me; to loosely quote a certain comedian, if she has that one outfit that just does something for her, she might pass as well
Overall, gotta admit, my tastes might be peculiar in that they might partially overlap with what most people would find beautiful (I think most of us will agree that Tessa Thrills is beautiful, for example), but at the same time, most models that people go crazy about are not that attractive for me. Like, out of interest, I googled top 10 most beautiful women, and here is my verdict: heart-throbbingly beautiful... hm... maybe Adriana Lima, yeah (and even with her, we need to limit it to a very slim timeline where "she's got it"), but everyone else, from Bella Hadid to Emma Watson to Angelina Jolie to Lana del Rey are beautiful, of course, but no more beautiful for me than the women listed above. There are cases, like with Yuuri Maina, where on certain photos, Natalia Vodianova or Candice Swanepoel, for example, are stunning, I admit, but then you look at a lot of the other photos where she's clearly prepared for the shoot and I don't feel the same. Whereas with Mari Rika, for example, there's just something subjectively attractive about her face for me that doesn't require a lot of makeup, or a special kind of lighting, or anything else to "improve it" and "push it over the line". A great example of subjectivity indeed
If you didn't have +400 posts in a jav subforum I'd say you're just not into asian women. Some producers like SOD are pumping pretty women non-stop.
Minamo, Honjou Suzu, Shibasaki Haru, Yui Hina, Mai Tsubasa... Obviously the "prettiness" of jav actress is below to the one of the average japanese model or actress (see this mv for example) but still I think that if we compare jav with western porn, japanese actresses are just more beautiful.
Often I wish that South Korea could be less restrictive like Japan, since Koreans are on average taller which would make pretty nice KAV actresses (or actors). I also like their facial structure which are often more vertically elongated.
Man... I've been consuming chinese, japanese and korean media for some years, and honestly I doubt you can tell the difference between their facial structures. The real difference (and the one they use to tell the origin country) between them is make-up and clothing.
If you didn't have +400 posts in a jav subforum I'd say you're just not into asian women. Some producers like SOD are pumping pretty women non-stop.
Minamo, Honjou Suzu, Shibasaki Haru, Yui Hina, Mai Tsubasa... Obviously the "prettiness" of jav actress is below to the one of the average japanese model or actress (see this mv for example) but still I think that if we compare jav with western porn, japanese actresses are just more beautiful.
Well, I think it's not that I'm not into (some of) them, I just don't have any particular preference for Asian women. But maybe that's what you meant
I mean, I've checked all the girls you listed, and Honjou Suzu is a beauty, I feel, but no more than the ones I listed, in their own way. So, I could easily have something like a mixed rating of all the races and ethnicities, and one or two Asian women will be in the top 10, but there are just so many beautiful women out there. Like, lately, I've been into Arabic women, especially Algerian. Just google them, they're gorgeous
(Okay, gotta admit, if you just google randomly, there will be a whole range, and there might be a good point to be made here: that maybe Japanese women, and Asian in general, are more eye-pleasing on average, but with other races, with the Westerners etc., the range is wider, hence the possibility of having someone who is just heavenly beautiful... or hideous... while the spectrum is not that wide and the "beauty gap" is not that drastic with Asian women. That's why a lot of Europeans are portrayed with such huge noses in anime etc. One might argue that Japan, due to its geography and history, is more about not being an eyesore, and this includes your looks: if you stand out too much, that's no good. So, Japanese beauty is "smooth", while Western beauty is more like katakana
If we speculate even further, that's why Japanese and maybe other Asian cultures are so obsessed with cuteness. Girls are cute first of all. All the words that are about the fleshy parts seem to be borrowed: セクシー for "sexy"、エロい for "erotic, alluring" etc. Which does not mean that Asian girls are not sexy. I just think that they are often more about being cute and then sexy, while in the West, you can find someone who is bombastically, "obviously" sexy but almost not cute at all, like Pamela Anderson, or Briana Banks, etc. Yes, Shiori Tsukada, for example, is also bombastic, but she's more of an exception, and she's still cute at least a little bit. Same with Kaho Shibuya etc. One could argue even further that that's why Asian transgender girls, or whatever you wanna call them, are the most feminine out there: because Asians have historically been more about the harmony, being able to live together on a relatively small area, etc. That's why they don't reek of sweat, by the way. If you didn't know, google that: Asian are genetically different in that regard, and that's why they find gaijins smelly... because compared to Asians, we are smelly. And even with that genetic makeup, the Japanese have possibly one of the most well-known bathing rituals...
To sum up, it seems that the Japanese, and maybe Asians in general, are more about not being offensive, be it in their beauty, or smell (that's why they also don't use strong scents in their perfume etc.), or anything else
Okay, I could go on and on, but I think I've made some sort of a point, or several even)
Also, while I was checking out the girls you've listed, I've found this one, Yui Hinata. She seems to have done just a few titles back in 2009 or so. Now, that's a beauty as well (and, again, she is sexy and cute). But really, if we were making a list of the most beautiful women in the world, there would just be too much competition. Keep in mind as well, that I have a thing for freckled redheads, and you can hardly find a Japanese woman like that
If you didn't have +400 posts in a jav subforum I'd say you're just not into asian women. Some producers like SOD are pumping pretty women non-stop.
Minamo, Honjou Suzu, Shibasaki Haru, Yui Hina, Mai Tsubasa... Obviously the "prettiness" of jav actress is below to the one of the average japanese model or actress (see this mv for example) but still I think that if we compare jav with western porn, japanese actresses are just more beautiful.
Often I wish that South Korea could be less restrictive like Japan, since Koreans are on average taller which would make pretty nice KAV actresses (or actors). I also like their facial structure which are often more vertically elongated.
you gotta be kiddin. no offense but many Korean women have cosmetic surgeries. It's a huge turn off. They are taller in general, but also have weird body proportions eg big bodies but no T and A. Koreans also have wide faces, flat facial features and tiny eyes. Think Mongols. If you're into Korean AV there are many movies out there, professionally shot or amateur webcam models. We are here to discuss JAV. To each his own.
Maybe you just really don't know who to look at. Also, looks are subjective. Everyone has their own tastes...
Anyway let me put it this way - porn is almost (but not always) the last option for most women. They would really rather do something else. So of course women who do JAV aren't going to be as attractive as some influencers, but only some I would say. Look, only a handful of influencers are like drop dead beautiful. You need a certain about of charisma to be an influencer, and not every pretty face has charisma.
What are you looking for? Facial beauty? There's a ton of JAV stars in recent years that are facially very attractive. But you're going to need to define 'recent years'. How far back? Shall we go with...say, start of this decade? 2020 onwards?
Here's a handful off the top of my head who debuted since 2020 who I think are facially very attractive. If you run into them in the street and they don't turn your head in some way, you've got ridiculously high standards when it comes to Japanese women.
Ishikawa Mio
Miyashita Rena
Ono Rikka
Sasaki Saki
Kasui Jun
Kaede Fua
Asano Kokoro
But I do get what you mean. There seems to be a more prevalent usage of photoshop these days. I don't know how many times I've been trolled by a cover pic only to be heavily disappointed at what they really look like.
Plus you're going up against a lot of history here. You ask me, on average before 2020 its not like most of the girls who enter the industry each year were facially that attractive either. I really can't think of that many faces from the past I find that memorable.
Wait...these 3 are still relatively recent...as in 2019.
But going a little further back than that...
Ogura Yuna
Honjo Suzu
Yoshizawa Akiho
Amatsuka Moe
Aizawa Minami
Yura Sakura
Ito Chinami
Otoshiro Sayaka
Y'know, I cant really think of that many 2010-2020 JAV stars whose faces are really that attractive to me that I would remember them. I do remember quite a lot of bodies though, like Uehara Ai but facially I remember her as being rather cute and pretty but I would hardly call her very beautiful.
If you've got some names in mind of pornstars who you think are more attractive than recent ones, I would really like to know for research purposes...obviously...
They use a lot of filters in their social media. I would reserve judgement for when we can actually see them in person, or in a video without a filter.
At first, I naively thought that almost no Japanese girls do plastic surgery (unlike Koreans), but then I found more and more "plastic" ones in JAV
Still, I used to think even after that, for some reason, that the filters are like a Chinese thing
The more I live and learn, the more my image of Japan is being crushed into reality
Which is the better way, I guess
At first, I naively thought that almost no Japanese girls do plastic surgery (unlike Koreans), but then I found more and more "plastic" ones in JAV
Still, I used to think even after that, for some reason, that the filters are like a Chinese thing
The more I live and learn, the more my image of Japan is being crushed into reality
Which is the better way, I guess
Same here. Not just in JAV but Japanese entertainment in general. Some famous actresses that I thought were natural had some work done. Though it's not on the levels of Korea. Cosmetic surgery is still stigmatized in Japan but extremely common in S.Korea. Koreans get plastic surgery like going to the dentist. They are not ashamed about it either.
Since this distinction between "beautiful" and "cute" has really stuck with me, I have now connected two more dots and realized that Hanasaki Ian is quite a beautiful woman in my eyes (i.e. more beautiful than cute)
Same as most of the girls from this compilation title, actually (though I just found it randomly when looking through Ian's works right now). I mean, it casts two of the four "sophisticated beauties" I listed at some point, it casts both Kawakami Yuu and Sawamura Reiko... Maybe it has to do with age, but maybe not (at least not always), I'm not yet sure
One more thing that I thought about almost just now is a good test of the overall attraction you have to an actress or any person. It's obvious, but I guess I have put it into words only now
Imagine that this person didn't have the most prominent feature you like about them and see how that would affect the overall rating. With Kaho, I can almost adamantly be sure that if she didn't have those knockers, I wouldn't care much about her. And Tsukada Shiori... Yeah, it's even more true for her: she's all about that ass, I think
But with someone like Mari Rika... man, she has to change a lot for me to not like her. Same with many other actresses I like. So, yeah, I'm not that superficial!
I currently base beauty on how an AV model looks in their debut, and I tend to fall for a super cheery smile. Since I like all ages and body types, for the younger general AV model type, I follow Moodyz Fresh, SOD Youth, and Kawaii. Recently, I started viewing Moodyz Diva, S1, and SOD Star, which feature contracted girls who are generally more attractive than those who go freelance. Once I get past the cover, trailer, and debut, I decide if I'll continue following them.
I like debut releases because you see the models at their true weight, as they tend to gain 10-15 pounds throughout their careers. However, I've noticed that many girls in the premier studios are not as attractive anymore, or after a few scenes, they transition to freelance work, which often results in a decline in movie quality. Additionally, many girls now only film one to three movies before leaving the industry altogether.
Lately, many debut trailers don’t show sample sex scenes but instead just have clips of the models waving and posing, which I find less engaging. I understand that all covers are photoshopped, but I feel like E-Body is the worst offender. A pet peeve of mine is that while people love the natural charm of Asian girls with slightly crooked teeth, the covers always feature them with perfectly straight, bright white teeth, which feels misleading.
Yeah, about those imperfections, I agree: I see it as one of the on-the-fence aspects of the modern Japanese culture. It's like, come on, maybe it would be better for you if you just decided what is it that you want — natural yet imperfect beauty without surgeries, or the Korean/Chinese/Western approach to beauty that so often turns people to mass-produced mannequins and lizards?
Yeah, about those imperfections, I agree: I see it as one of the on-the-fence aspects of the modern Japanese culture. It's like, come on, maybe it would be better for you if you just decided what is it that you want — natural yet imperfect beauty without surgeries, or the Korean/Chinese/Western approach to beauty that so often turns people to mass-produced mannequins and lizards?
What's worse is for some reason, western women who are in their early 20s, decide to get surgeries that age them to look like 40 year old women, and it's on purpose! I don't get it. Its like they are being influence by 40 something year old women they see on reality tv trying to look young, the irony.
What's worse is for some reason, western women who are in their early 20s, decide to get surgeries that age them to look like 40 year old women, and it's on purpose! I don't get it. Its like they are being influence by 40 something year old women they see on reality tv trying to look young, the irony.
Yeah, that as well. You must have seen one of those viral videos with a 20-something y.o. botox girl asking others how old they think she is, and getting replies like "I dunno... 40?"