Rough/Constant Irrumatio Tribute (and sharing) Thread
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Yeah, that's a no from me dog. I only needed to see about 3 seconds. This thread has taken a dark turn, get this back to irrumatio.
It's interesting 'cause it got me remembering how I got into different kinds of porn gradually
First, of course, as soon as you see your first "regular" porn (though in my case it was some German stuff, so it was quite... powerful), you immediately "get it": "That's the s...it". But then I guess it's natural to require more and more stimulation (if you don't do dopamine fasting or whatever you might call it when you just lay off the stimulant, in this case porn, for a while), so you get, for example, from blowjobs to deep-throating, then to irrumatio, then to vomit etc.
What's interesting for me are certain kinds of porn where the "gateway" is not that obvious (though for zealously religious etc. people even oral sex is off limits). I mean, let's review: kissing is beautiful, why not kiss the girl's "flower"? Or why not ask her kiss your thing? And then lick it, and then suck it, and then take it deep... deeper... and so it goes
But what about bestiality for example? I remember how I had a gut feeling that I shouldn't watch it when I first watched it out of curiosity. But then, as I returned to it over the years, I slowly got used to it (or is it that the "man-made limitations were broken" and are we all actually pan-sexual outside the culture?). Same with she-males. Now I'm not even that appalled by gay stuff when I happen to see it (and that's another thing: I see it as another zeitgeist thing that we're so much more OK with lesbian stuff than gay stuff), though it still does not attract me if there are no girls there (which is a whole trope in the female domination industry, of course). The guys going at it just seem too enthusiastic about it. Maybe it's the same reason why I don't get why people are so enthusiastic about guns, or coffee, or jogging
And then comes scat. Maybe I'm just as oblivious as I was when I first saw bestiality (because, hey, you get used to anything, and those two girls with a cup only shock you the first time), but I think that even if I watch it again and again, there is just nothing there that hits "that something in me". With bestiality, she-males, and even gay stuff, it's easy to draw the line: it's all about sex and sex organs, and they're doing what they're made for, more or less, sexually
One could argue that scat is also deeply psychologically connected to anal and humans' psyche development (Freud etc.), but it's just not that obvious. But I think it all just comes down to what we are wired to find sexy — though, at the same time, I cannot deny that the environment, experience etc. are also significant influences)
What I wanted to say in short is...
What's interesting for me are certain kinds of porn where the "gateway" is not that obvious (though for zealously religious etc. people even oral sex is off limits). I mean, let's review: kissing is beautiful, why not kiss the girl's "flower"? Or why not ask her kiss your thing? And then lick it, and then suck it, and then take it deep... deeper... and so it goes
But what about bestiality for example? I remember how I had a gut feeling that I shouldn't watch it when I first watched it out of curiosity. But then, as I returned to it over the years, I slowly got used to it (or is it that the "man-made limitations were broken" and are we all actually pan-sexual outside the culture?). Same with she-males. Now I'm not even that appalled by gay stuff when I happen to see it (and that's another thing: I see it as another zeitgeist thing that we're so much more OK with lesbian stuff than gay stuff), though it still does not attract me if there are no girls there (which is a whole trope in the female domination industry, of course). The guys going at it just seem too enthusiastic about it. Maybe it's the same reason why I don't get why people are so enthusiastic about guns, or coffee, or jogging
And then comes scat. Maybe I'm just as oblivious as I was when I first saw bestiality (because, hey, you get used to anything, and those two girls with a cup only shock you the first time), but I think that even if I watch it again and again, there is just nothing there that hits "that something in me". With bestiality, she-males, and even gay stuff, it's easy to draw the line: it's all about sex and sex organs, and they're doing what they're made for, more or less, sexually
One could argue that scat is also deeply psychologically connected to anal and humans' psyche development (Freud etc.), but it's just not that obvious. But I think it all just comes down to what we are wired to find sexy — though, at the same time, I cannot deny that the environment, experience etc. are also significant influences)
What I wanted to say in short is...
I think as for me, for example, I might be "wired" to find some doses of "not very straight" and even "pan-sexual" stuff OK, and just with enough exposure, I was able to get rid of the cultural taboos (though, again, some would argue that the culture tried to save me from corruption... which means that everyone can be corrupted like that?), but there just isn't a thing in me that really "digs" scat. (I might become OK at looking at it without being shocked, disgusted, etc., but I feel like it won't become sexual for me — again, arguably, because it is just not sexual for me to begin with, and this exposure won't "make me realize it", "overcome the taboo and be more of who I am" etc.) Why people dig it at all is another interesting matter, and it might come down to the combination of seeing people in such intimate situations (same as with girls peeing themselves in public, though I don't find that arousing as well, but I can try and understand it). Also, poop comes out of the butt, and butts and buttholes are also very intimate and hilarious... but yeah, it's just an individual "wiring" + the environment/experience that either goes against it or supports it, I think
Yeah, seems like I haven't said anything new if there is actually anything new to be said here. Well, at least I did some more self-analysis
Another great irrumatio exhibition from Maika. GVH-705.
Circled in orange in the pic below is the cuts on her arm. She's a cutter. Probably can't stereotype irrumatio experts as cutters, but still interesting.
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Circled in orange in the pic below is the cuts on her arm. She's a cutter. Probably can't stereotype irrumatio experts as cutters, but still interesting.
I’ve notice Maika had cuts in several of her films. Yokomiya Nanami, another actress that does rough throatfucking commited suicide last year.
I don’t know how many these actresses might have mental problems. I guess most normal girls wouldn’t be willing to have cocks repeatedly jammed down their throats. I hope most of these actresses have a sound mind when consenting and are not being coerced into doing these rough scenes.
I don’t know how many these actresses might have mental problems. I guess most normal girls wouldn’t be willing to have cocks repeatedly jammed down their throats. I hope most of these actresses have a sound mind when consenting and are not being coerced into doing these rough scenes.
I didn't know that the world of irrumatio is that dark, but then again, it's not surprising. I mean I know that JAV as any porn industry is shady by definition, but it seems that irrumatio is among the darkest genres therein; I guess the more niche and rough it is, the higher the probability to be affected by all of it for real
Which reminds me of how the great oral experts in the West, at least in my opinion, are all tough, to balance for it, I guess; I mean look at Haley Scott for example, she's not just a great throater, she won't let you cross the line. Maybe that's the life that made her like that, or maybe it's being like that that helped her to not be broken by that life
And then there are girls like Ogawa Himari (whom I really like as people as well, albeit based on very little second-hand knowledge of them I have) that, I think, have good enough relationships with their family and/or peers, and, most importantly, themselves, that they can continue doing JAV and be OK, and god bless them (if that's at all appropriate to involve god into this). My inquisitive mind offers me explanations like, hey, Himari is such a good throater that even if they wanted to humiliate her, she could take any cock there is — but then I remember about her expressions in XRW-998 and I start to wonder if she's just a good actress or has a bit of her sunshine personality has been darkened away at that filming
As I myself have gone through some dark times mentally, I can easily imagine their view on life: making some money doing something that brings in significant amounts in short bursts (as opposed to working in a company, a shop etc. from 9 to 5), with the ability to end it all when you can't take it anymore. That really is grim, but I guess that's how a lot of people live, "even" in Japan
Which reminds me of how the great oral experts in the West, at least in my opinion, are all tough, to balance for it, I guess; I mean look at Haley Scott for example, she's not just a great throater, she won't let you cross the line. Maybe that's the life that made her like that, or maybe it's being like that that helped her to not be broken by that life
And then there are girls like Ogawa Himari (whom I really like as people as well, albeit based on very little second-hand knowledge of them I have) that, I think, have good enough relationships with their family and/or peers, and, most importantly, themselves, that they can continue doing JAV and be OK, and god bless them (if that's at all appropriate to involve god into this). My inquisitive mind offers me explanations like, hey, Himari is such a good throater that even if they wanted to humiliate her, she could take any cock there is — but then I remember about her expressions in XRW-998 and I start to wonder if she's just a good actress or has a bit of her sunshine personality has been darkened away at that filming
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I know not all actresses are the same, but seems obvious theres a "pool" of movies, ranging from normal sex (STARS, START, FSDSS, VOD, ABF, SSDE ect) to hardcore (ENKI, REAL, MISM) with a wide range in between. At the end of the spectrum you have films which definition should be "niche". From pretty vainilla things (for the woman) like getting the armpits licked, pissing on men, to extreme fetishes like getting fucked while smeared in some guys shit. I don't think starring this kind of video is well paid.
And at the same time there's a HUGE pool of actresses. You open any jav library and every day you see new dozens of young girls hotter than any girls you've seen in the street the same day.
Every young girl can start with vanilla movies where being a new pretty face is what matters, but for the industry women are highly disposable and after that there are mainly two paths: being able to work everywhere or accepting whatever job they offer to you.
Anyone that uses webs like 141jav, nextjav or javlibrary can see that journey every week..
For example: Sengoku Monaka. You can see how her first films are pretty vanilla. The sex is not rough and the company sells the innocence of a pretty and young girl. One year later she's recording videos where she's r***ing byt two or more guys and shitty niche videos. Videos for ENKI or MISM wouldn't take long to come.
Then of course you have actresses that don't lack filming opportunities, like Nagisa Mitsuki or Seina Arisa, who still star pretty hardcore videos.
PD: What I want to say with this is that for each actress that loves her throat being rammed, 30 are forced to work for MISM, REAL, etc.
And at the same time there's a HUGE pool of actresses. You open any jav library and every day you see new dozens of young girls hotter than any girls you've seen in the street the same day.
Every young girl can start with vanilla movies where being a new pretty face is what matters, but for the industry women are highly disposable and after that there are mainly two paths: being able to work everywhere or accepting whatever job they offer to you.
Anyone that uses webs like 141jav, nextjav or javlibrary can see that journey every week..
For example: Sengoku Monaka. You can see how her first films are pretty vanilla. The sex is not rough and the company sells the innocence of a pretty and young girl. One year later she's recording videos where she's r***ing byt two or more guys and shitty niche videos. Videos for ENKI or MISM wouldn't take long to come.
Then of course you have actresses that don't lack filming opportunities, like Nagisa Mitsuki or Seina Arisa, who still star pretty hardcore videos.
PD: What I want to say with this is that for each actress that loves her throat being rammed, 30 are forced to work for MISM, REAL, etc.
By this, you mean that you either freelance but look for work yourself (choosing what you want but doing all the "leg work" yourself) — or you sign an exclusive contract that ensures that you have some volume of work but you are not able to turn down the offers of the studio (at least not for long)?
What I mean is that, besides exclusivity contracts, some girls could work for any company since these companies know those girls bring a lot of customers.
edit: I suppose the word is "anywhere" and not "everywhere"
Or, to rephrase, if the girl is popular, she can choose where to work, and if she's not, she only has some lame niche stuff. Or not lame but so niche that it's something that might put a toll on her mental state
I think the complexity of the behavior of women who were abused long before applying to be a JAV actress is most likely severely misunderstood and grossly underestimated.
I watched a drama series on Netflix about this topic. Baby Reindeer is the title. Three people I know, including myself had the same reaction to it. We cringed hard at the bizarre choices that abused people make. Self destructive to the point, that I eventually had extreme difficulty feeling sorry for these characters.
It was extremely difficult to resist the temptation of blaming them for their self destructive ways.
I had to meditate, and ponder the biological imperative on why abused people continue to seek abuse. I won't bother you with the evolutionary theoretical explanation, but in my mind I think it's a perfectly logical theory, which somewhat rhymes with the currently accepted non evolutionary theory:
Abused people seek abuse to gain a sense of control.............. They're kinda on the right track, but not quite. A dash of evolution would complete their theory, in my humble opinion.
Kiyama Ai /Aizawa Akari and Maika Nizumi are two examples of actresses who don't have a lot of balance in their choice of films. There's plenty of stars who have amazing irrumatio skills, yet they wisely pace themselves.
There's plenty of medium level choices of "fake irrumatio", in which it's like 20% real, and 80% fake.
I highly doubt actresses who don't pace themselves, and constantly choosing MISM type films, are being forced to do it by the JAV industry.
ANAV-003 seeking to make history was Kiyama Ai's idea. She came up with the damn idea.
I guess my point is, the idea that a JAV actress committed suicide because she couldn't handle anymore rough irrumatio films is probably oversimplifying it.
It has much more to do with their mental state. Kinda like K pop stars offing themselves.
I hope Maika is ok, and paces herself.
I watched a drama series on Netflix about this topic. Baby Reindeer is the title. Three people I know, including myself had the same reaction to it. We cringed hard at the bizarre choices that abused people make. Self destructive to the point, that I eventually had extreme difficulty feeling sorry for these characters.
It was extremely difficult to resist the temptation of blaming them for their self destructive ways.
I had to meditate, and ponder the biological imperative on why abused people continue to seek abuse. I won't bother you with the evolutionary theoretical explanation, but in my mind I think it's a perfectly logical theory, which somewhat rhymes with the currently accepted non evolutionary theory:
Abused people seek abuse to gain a sense of control.............. They're kinda on the right track, but not quite. A dash of evolution would complete their theory, in my humble opinion.
Kiyama Ai /Aizawa Akari and Maika Nizumi are two examples of actresses who don't have a lot of balance in their choice of films. There's plenty of stars who have amazing irrumatio skills, yet they wisely pace themselves.
There's plenty of medium level choices of "fake irrumatio", in which it's like 20% real, and 80% fake.
I highly doubt actresses who don't pace themselves, and constantly choosing MISM type films, are being forced to do it by the JAV industry.
ANAV-003 seeking to make history was Kiyama Ai's idea. She came up with the damn idea.
I guess my point is, the idea that a JAV actress committed suicide because she couldn't handle anymore rough irrumatio films is probably oversimplifying it.
It has much more to do with their mental state. Kinda like K pop stars offing themselves.
I hope Maika is ok, and paces herself.
This is why I am excited by A.I/Machine learning. There is so much content out there but it is so horribly organized. The covers, titles, tags, trailers fail highlight what makes movie unique. But with future computing I can imagine The library of studios being scanned, properly tagged and trailers made on the fly to target and highlight personal preferences and fetishes. Hell, have local A.I figure out preferences, feed it some screenshots and scan the online databases for similar scenes.
Don't have link in a recommendation thread on this forum was an actress in doggy style with tight ass and cute face gyrating her ass while keeping the rest of her body completely still, very sexy scene that showed off the actresses charisma; but there is no way I would have watched that movie if it wasn't one random forum member posting it.