宇都宮しをん Shion Utsunomiya aka RION

[paparoach408]

yes thats the problem, she only did vanilla stuff
and I think she will stay at top vanilla company in the rest of her AV career

what more variety I want from her is orgy ofcourse
or at least foursome MMFF, partner swapping

I'm more saying that Rion/Shion is built to only do Vanilla stuff. she can do minor extra things but she's built for vanilla or Idea Pocket, Alice Japan, and Max a type occasional mixes into other variety. Like she goes freelance and her career will die, she goes to someplace like Moodyz, or Sod her career will die, She's an attraction you overdue what makes her special then you just expose her and she becomes just an average draw.

 

[Supmop]

I'm more saying that Rion/Shion is built to only do Vanilla stuff. she can do minor extra things but she's built for vanilla or Idea Pocket, Alice Japan, and Max a type occasional mixes into other variety. Like she goes freelance and her career will die, she goes to someplace like Moodyz, or Sod her career will die, She's an attraction you overdue what makes her special then you just expose her and she becomes just an average draw.

I think I agree with you

she is not for the real hardcore

 

[darksider59]

yes thats the problem, she only did vanilla stuff
and I think she will stay at top vanilla company in the rest of her AV career

what more variety I want from her is orgy ofcourse
or at least foursome MMFF, partner swapping

I would like to see her in other themes too, especially with other girls. As I don't watch real hardcore stuff, I'm not as disapointed as some others (I've seen wax stuff and sperm drinking online, mostly in trailers, but I never watched it full nor saved it on my computer, the most hardcore I have is probably 3 guys and one girl, like in S1 movies)

 

[Supmop]

I would like to see her in other themes too, especially with other girls. As I don't watch real hardcore stuff, I'm not as disapointed as some others (I've seen wax stuff and sperm drinking online, mostly in trailers, but I never watched it full nor saved it on my computer, the most hardcore I have is probably 3 guys and one girl, like in S1 movies)

I dislike those wax, heavy bondage S&M stuff, sperm drinking, bukkake, ecc too

what I mean more hardcore is : orgy, partner swap, interracial, powerful penetration, ecc

I would love to see her with other girls too
I imagine Rion, Naomi, Tia might be awesome

 

[Motiman]

Speaking of a big pair with real talents, I just today saw the behind the scene segment of TAMM-013 Wife Sex Slave starring Aimi Yoshikawa. This behind the scene is mainly showing her, mostly nude, posing for photos. It's a wonderful 5 mins showing she's a seasoned professional and a fun and happy and horny lady. There was a about 15 second clip when she quickly cycle thur about 10 different expressions, and hand gestures and body postures. She's pro photographer's dream, click click click click click, each shot is different and beautiful.

Only wish she would get more variety of roles in her AV.

Had to check out what you were talking about as i live backstage stuff. Really enjoyed watching it, and seeing her own curiosity and excitement over the pictures. The bit where she is posing is so fun to watch (and sexy as hell!). I wanted to make a gif of it to give you guys an idea but the website i use wouldn't do it, but i encourage you all to have a watch.

Including Shion, how long is her filmography? You are speaking of her as if she's newb, she is NOT. She shouldn't be improving movie by movie. Either she can (learned to) act, or not, then she's just a big pair.

SNIS-752 is promising, a baby step towards interesting vids, like... allow her some chance to act.

Again, i probably have to agree with you. She's had long enough and i don't think there will be much improvement. I think my perceived increase in her ability was probably down to the fact i have always rated her acting as poor, so any slight ability, i just put down as a gain.

Still, great tits though!

 

[kickwahyu]

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[ssj3joey]

 

[ding73ding]

Hmmm rather unimpressed with those pix. Esp. WPB, come on send the photographer back to school.

So I assume most have already had a look at SNIS-752 what do you think?

For sure no one would accuse her of being vanilla again? There's plenty of "dramatic" scenes (but not many lines of dialog out of her mouth) the sex is rough so you can all rate her acting skills in that regard. And more than one 1 vs. N scenes.

I'm no fan of standard r*** vids, in general. But a super hot super busty babe breaking a few of her "firsts" can make up for it. Hopefully this mean she will perform in more interesting vids (and soon!)

I quite disagree she's fated to fail if she goes to Moodz, SOD or freelance. Firstly SNIS is hardly the vanilla factory that you make it out to be. Just checking my SNIS collection from last yr or so... SNIS-723 is Femdom Bitch Continuous Compulsory Ejaculation, -754 is Big Tits Draw Horny Looks. -510 Forced Public Obscenity, -717 Nine Strong Libido Men Sex Family Care by Sister

OK the hit rate is low (so many boring titles) but there are enough non-vanilla titles for any number of Hot Stars.

Anyway what would it take to FAIL in Moodyz/SOD? If you have a great figure, decent face and willingness/experience with many erect cocks it's practically fool-proof. I just don't see how her princess aura is anything but a self-imposed or studio-imposed shackles.

Especially comparing SNIS-752 and -754 (same day releases) it's very disappointing Rion's vid is the more boring and conventional of the two. Saki Okuda is also a busty babe (not as spectacular as Rion's) but somehow she got a much more original and interesting script. Wonder if Saki being a lesser star has to do with it.

 

[BDrake]

Saki Okuda is also a busty babe (not as spectacular as Rion's) but somehow she got a much more original and interesting script. Wonder if Saki being a lesser star has to do with it.

Saki is waaay better than Rion.

 

[paparoach408]

Anyway what would it take to FAIL in Moodyz/SOD? If you have a great figure, decent face and willingness/experience with many erect cocks it's practically fool-proof. I just don't see how her princess aura is anything but a self-imposed or studio-imposed shackles.

Especially comparing SNIS-752 and -754 (same day releases) it's very disappointing Rion's vid is the more boring and conventional of the two. Saki Okuda is also a busty babe (not as spectacular as Rion's) but somehow she got a much more original and interesting script. Wonder if Saki being a lesser star has to do with it.

Financially she wouldn't fail, I mean hey look at Julia she does well!(Insert i know Julia has improved but it took her a long time to get out of that boring stage) She would just have more and more lackluster films with a little more extreme themes! and maybe she might be a good performer someday, but knowing her situation she doesn't have to improve at any point to make money.

Also Saki proved she's a way better performer long ago, her Alice Japan days where great but i haven't really cared about her S1S1 days so i can't say if she's improved or got worse. Saki has more range as a performer then Rion

 

[kickwahyu]

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[darksider59]

Saki is waaay better than Rion.

I prefer Rion but it's a difficult question. I find that Rion's movies are not always great. In fact, I skip some (ex: SNIS-673) because there isn't any kind of story or good scenes for my taste. Last Rion movie in my collection is SNIS-656 (I didn't check/watch the most recent yet). On another side, Saki's movies have more interesting themes such as her last one that seems to be really fun. The best thing to do would be Rion doing same movies as Saki. It's maybe nothing but just seeing her with other girls would be so hot !

 

[kickwahyu]

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[ding73ding]

Yeah... I think "skills" in AV is a bit overrated. I think mostly it's how the agency and studio package or burnish her image. Rion's image is kind of princess/goddess. And vids/scripts/directorial styles are tailored to that vanilla image so I don't think her "skills" or "talents" is much of a factor.

Sure there's some skills/experience factor in each AV idol, most girls are visibly tense and passive in her first 6 vids or so. Then... I guess those who can't get used to it (or learn the "skills"?) would fade from the scene, hopefully return to mainstream society with a few more yens in her purse. Those who managed to get used to sucking and fucking for camera... well ok there's personal preference some girls has "the skills" for drinking sperm (but I don't know of any notable idol refusing to take ejaculation in the mouth) or rope bondage. But mostly what do we want from the AV idols? I just need her to fuck in a handful of standard poses (cowgirl does take a bit of strength and stamina) and OK mouth skills isn't easy but the camera can't pick it up. So there's not really a huge range in skills I can point to someone say she's very skillful, another has no skills/talents.

What I see mostly are image-engineering, so young-looking cute girls may be typecast as girl-next-door or girlfriend or sometimes angel-face-devil-heart. Slightly more mature face are MILF/teacher, and huge tits small waists are goddess/cosplay fantasy, huge tits chubby waists are cheap (fat) slut or abuse victims. That explains a lot like how Julia (early) and Rion are cast in similar type of vids.

I'm a big fan of Saki's vids too. They are more often a complete functional package. Rion... her tits are more impressive, and I like her feminine hairstyle more than Saki's boyish/practical short cut. But Rion's vids... often I look at her, she got the goddess bod but please! Put her the "normal" kind of AV, not the vanilla kind please??!

I suppose the JAV ecosystem is that there's a category of princess/goddess porn and someone has to fill those roles. And for whatever reason goddess idols aren't supposed to be multi-talented, say, the classic multi-talented idol is Yuma Asami, she can play the hottie, the slut, the GND, the MILF, the r*** victim, Dom, Sub, she can do anything. Ok sure only a minority of actress has the face body and age to fill those goddess roles, so fine for this gen, Rion is a great choice to do goddess. But why can't she do other roles too? It seems like if she perform in some "planning" vids with more scripts and production values it would damage her image/value in her vanilla goddess vids. It makes no sense, except maybe the customers/fans are so gullible to believe an AV goddess is real and would never do anything "cheap".

Similar complain for black gal typecast, esp. Aika, she would be much much more interesting if she can do non-black gal vids every so often.

 

[Supmop]

Similar complain for black gal typecast, esp. Aika, she would be much much more interesting if she can do non-black gal vids every so often.

would Aika still attractive if she back to her original skin color ?

the younger original oriental skin Aika was not famous back then

for me, yes she pretty & hot with her original skin color, but I don't know for other guys who used to see her in dark girl mode

 

[Supmop]

Yeah... I think "skills" in AV is a bit overrated. I think mostly it's how the agency and studio package or burnish her image. Rion's image is kind of princess/goddess. And vids/scripts/directorial styles are tailored to that vanilla image so I don't think her "skills" or "talents" is much of a factor.

Sure there's some skills/experience factor in each AV idol, most girls are visibly tense and passive in her first 6 vids or so. Then... I guess those who can't get used to it (or learn the "skills"?) would fade from the scene, hopefully return to mainstream society with a few more yens in her purse. Those who managed to get used to sucking and fucking for camera... well ok there's personal preference some girls has "the skills" for drinking sperm (but I don't know of any notable idol refusing to take ejaculation in the mouth) or rope bondage. But mostly what do we want from the AV idols? I just need her to fuck in a handful of standard poses (cowgirl does take a bit of strength and stamina) and OK mouth skills isn't easy but the camera can't pick it up. So there's not really a huge range in skills I can point to someone say she's very skillful, another has no skills/talents.

What I see mostly are image-engineering, so young-looking cute girls may be typecast as girl-next-door or girlfriend or sometimes angel-face-devil-heart. Slightly more mature face are MILF/teacher, and huge tits small waists are goddess/cosplay fantasy, huge tits chubby waists are cheap (fat) slut or abuse victims. That explains a lot like how Julia (early) and Rion are cast in similar type of vids.

if the girls have innocent face she have a market for the guys who love passive, innocent, unexperience girls

but the problem are for girls who have bitchy face but passive and skill less, she would not fit for the innocent girl role, and would be boring for the slut role

 

[ding73ding]

OT, but I don't have problem with dark skin. I have problem with fake tan. Real tan lines are super sexy, an average figure would get instant 10 point boost if she has bikini tan lines. (one-piece swim suit tan lines may also work, if the swimsuit is reasonably sex)

A (naked) brown girl with a well-defined white tits, white butt, instant hard-on.

But fake full body spray-on tan on a face/figure that's obviously East Asian is very... fake!!! I've never fucked a girl with sprayed tan (that I know of). Would the paint rubs off on me? As we get sweaty and exchange bodily fluid?

OK Guess not... yeah I have seen plenty of black gal AV, but that question would be on my mind, despite the scientific evidence.

girls who have bitchy face but passive and skill less, she would not fit for the innocent girl role, and would be boring for the slut role

That's my point, how much skill does it take to suck a big cock and smile at the same time? Yeah ok the first 10 times, gag reflex and all that. Or do a cowgirl while remembering to present your face and body to the camera. Again takes a few shots, maybe half a year. After that, it's not a matter of skills, just determination, mental state.

So I don't think there are girls who have the strong or experienced face who is both willing to stay in AV for a career but too "passive and skill less" to do whatever roles studios want from her. Bitch, slut, MILF, cougar (you know each is different right?)

Those who you call "passive and skill less" are really lacking in commitment, they are the majority of AV debut girls who don't last more than 6-12 months. They are flesh face, still a little innocent sexually, the studio only need them to be naked on bed and spread their legs, the cast and crew will do the rest. 2, 3, 6 vids, that's it. It's a stint, not a lifetime career.

I'm arguing skill-wise, there's not much range to discuss. Yeah some specialize to gangbang or gokkun or bondage, but generally I believe every career idol has enough skills to do 90% of the AV genres, but their image limits the vids that studios are willing invest in them. Which is very sad.

That's not to deny that some idols are just spectacular performers. I go back to my old favs Yuma Asami, look-wise, she's only A-class, not S-class but her acting skills is incredible (even after hundreds of AV, she can still look surprised and embarrassed and hungry at a regular old cock). But I'm saying I'm also totally satisfied with the many hot idols with just the basic skills. What I'm dissatisfied with, is the studios/fans who impose these image-shackles.

 

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[Supmop]

OT, but I don't have problem with dark skin. I have problem with fake tan. Real tan lines are super sexy, an average figure would get instant 10 point boost if she has bikini tan lines. (one-piece swim suit tan lines may also work, if the swimsuit is reasonably sex)

A (naked) brown girl with a well-defined white tits, white butt, instant hard-on.

But fake full body spray-on tan on a face/figure that's obviously East Asian is very... fake!!! I've never fucked a girl with sprayed tan (that I know of). Would the paint rubs off on me? As we get sweaty and exchange bodily fluid?

OK Guess not... yeah I have seen plenty of black gal AV, but that question would be on my mind, despite the scientific evidence.

of course if paint rubs off is a mood killer, the same reason why I dislike body paint

That's my point, how much skill does it take to suck a big cock and smile at the same time? Yeah ok the first 10 times, gag reflex and all that. Or do a cowgirl while remembering to present your face and body to the camera. Again takes a few shots, maybe half a year. After that, it's not a matter of skills, just determination, mental state.

So I don't think there are girls who have the strong or experienced face who is both willing to stay in AV for a career but too "passive and skill less" to do whatever roles studios want from her. Bitch, slut, MILF, cougar (you know each is different right?)

Those who you call "passive and skill less" are really lacking in commitment, they are the majority of AV debut girls who don't last more than 6-12 months. They are flesh face, still a little innocent sexually, the studio only need them to be naked on bed and spread their legs, the cast and crew will do the rest. 2, 3, 6 vids, that's it. It's a stint, not a lifetime career.

I'm arguing skill-wise, there's not much range to discuss. Yeah some specialize to gangbang or gokkun or bondage, but generally I believe every career idol has enough skills to do 90% of the AV genres, but their image limits the vids that studios are willing invest in them. Which is very sad.

That's not to deny that some idols are just spectacular performers. I go back to my old favs Yuma Asami, look-wise, she's only A-class, not S-class but her acting skills is incredible (even after hundreds of AV, she can still look surprised and embarrassed and hungry at a regular old cock). But I'm saying I'm also totally satisfied with the many hot idols with just the basic skills. What I'm dissatisfied with, is the studios/fans who impose these image-shackles.

yes, agree with you

but sometimes I think about those passive & skill less girls, maybe thats the image that they tried to build, maybe there is a market in JAV for innocent, passive, unexperience, know nothing girls ? I seen some guys like those kind of girl

yes Yuma Asami has a decent acting skill, above average compare to most AV actresses

 

[ding73ding]

but sometimes I think about those passive & skill less girls, maybe thats the image that they tried to build, maybe there is a market in JAV for innocent, passive, unexperience, know nothing girls ? I seen some guys like those kind of girl

Come on of course there's a market for young inexperienced girls. That's human nature or creepy old man nature, it's the same everywhere anytime. There's a variation what percent of the market (demand) is involved and how well can the supply (studios/idols) tracks the demand. What I mean here is that vice laws and police (understandably) target this market segment and at least American studios respond to the feminists by making pretty much every porn actress into sex-crazed sluts. To deal with accusation of "objectifying women", they make the women super sex hungry. So American studios has problem feeding the demands for young innocent girls, but the demands is still there.

Japan's much weaker feminism movement is part reason you can get these girlish (even loli!) porn.

That's getting really OT, the point is that these "inexperienced girl gets fucked" genre should NOT negative affect the kind of vids made by career idols including Rion. Like, there's a major genre for r***s of various variations, but I think pretty much most fans understand that most of the vids were made under consent. The character in the filmed is attacked, tied up and r***ing against consent, but the idol/actress were doing it as a performance only. Right!? So sure I won't mind seeing Rion (or more typically we get more girlish looking idols like Atomi Shuri or Hibiki Otsuki) make vids like these, but I think it makes so sense that the actress herself is typecast so rigidly that she can't ever make some femdom or cherryboy hunt type of vids.

So when will Rion break her S-class typecast or as I mentioned princess/goddess mold?

I agree Saki Okuda vids are often better than Rion's, I'm just arguing it's not that Rion's skills are lower, but her goddess physique makes the studios treat her like fine porcelain.