Shoko Takahashi 高橋しょう子

jwlim80

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I will just let some numbers do the talking :-

https://twitter.com/yua_mikami/
https://twitter.com/TS_takasho/

See the difference in the numbers of followers between the 2 ? Granted Mikami got a 6 months headstart, but Takahashi had already been bit of a name before she got into porn while Mikami is just another face in a well known group.

The difference between them is Mikami has the dare-to-do attitude from the start and had already co-star with a wide range of male co-star from the start while Takahashi is more reserved and stick to the usual few.

Sure Takahashi had the rights to do so, but she will have to balance it out in term of her popularity. Though, to her credit, she had ventured out of her comfort zone this year with older male co-stars, some twice her age, starring in more sombre titles. She even start to take semen in her mouth in the latest release that results in stellar reviews. So I say the girl knows how she should proceed with her career and had already starts getting off her high horse.
 

ding73ding

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Hmm are you saying Shokotas should do more old fat and ugly guys because Yua-nyan has twice more twitter followers? I think you'd have a very difficult time convincing Shokotas or anyone.

Going back to DMM search data (much more meaningful than Twitter stats) Yua's number for year 2017-18 is higher than Shoko's but just barely. If your logic should hold, shouldn't Shoko copy rank #1 Kirara Asuka instead of Yua? Meaning she should stop making AV and go inactive. If you look at last half year, it seems Yua's career is more wobbly than Shoko's, distracted by unwise tactics (and strategy?) in her K-pop adventure.

Anyone, not just the two of them, should always seek self-improvement. But where to seek directions and suggestions? Certainly not some sour jerk-fans.
 

paparoach408

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The difference between them is Mikami has the dare-to-do attitude from the start and had already co-star with a wide range of male co-star from the start while Takahashi is more reserved and stick to the usual few.

Sure Takahashi had the rights to do so, but she will have to balance it out in term of her popularity. Though, to her credit, she had ventured out of her comfort zone this year with older male co-stars, some twice her age, starring in more sombre titles. She even start to take semen in her mouth in the latest release that results in stellar reviews. So I say the girl knows how she should proceed with her career and had already starts getting off her high horse.

Are you saying that Shoko isn't more popular because she doesn't fuck more guys? That doesn't make sense, her issue is how she is as a performer, and not who she fucks. She could fuck one guy her whole career, and if she fucked like Yua Mikami with that one person nobody would even care about her male talent.

Also as you said about her "stellar reviews'' taking semen in the mouth, that has nothing to do with her male co stars, it's more her expanding on what she already does, and whose to say her taking things slow isn't a business decision? if she doesn't go to S1 then her first Creampie is going to make money, every new little thing she does will get more buys, if you do everything in that first year then where is left to go for your next big payday theme?

Also what's that High Horse comment about? Wow she doesn't want to fuck someone that you want her to fuck, so she's on a high horse? She can fuck or not fuck who she wants, and fan opinion should never matter because it isn't ours, or anyone elses body, it is hers.


edit: you say the same uncofirmed stuff on Scanlovers

jwlim80
  • "We shall see. Lots of Japanese have noticed about her hesitance to work with Yoshimura and will pay money to watch her debut title with the guy. It's like seeing her lose her virginity all over"
  • "Takahashi herself never made it clear, it's just something people noticed.

    It could be something her agency did to play up her Diva status for all we know just so they could reap the rewards when the time come."
  • "Nothing solid to confirm that. But what is certain she had been working with some older co-stars that are twice her age of late."
Like seriously show us some evidence besides(not a fan forum post like here) "lots of Japanese" because so far it just looks like you are trying to make something out of nothing
 
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darksider59

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Holy shit ! It will probably be the best seller of the year lol.
 

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I don't want to piss on anybody's tastes, it's OK to like what you like.
But if these two performers are the cream of the crop these days (I've got to admit, I've never even heard from them, let alone watched one of their films), there's little hope of me finding new girls to get attached to.
 

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Something to consider, why are there people defending those girls who you might never possibly meet face to face when a difference in opinion is expressed ?

They work in a industry where the truth and lies is mixed into a murky shade of grey for the sake of our entertainment and besides, it's not as if either opinion is going to make a difference in their career. It's their life afterall.

But it's good that those people have the passion and energy to do so.

December will be an expensive month as usual for me, but my bonus should be able to cover the import of all 3 DVDs of both girls' special label crossover and collaboration releases amongst other stuffs. Refusing to just purchase digital off Fanza just because the player is useless.
 
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I don't want to piss on anybody's tastes, it's OK to like what you like.
But if these two performers are the cream of the crop these days (I've got to admit, I've never even heard from them, let alone watched one of their films), there's little hope of me finding new girls to get attached to.

Something to consider, why are there people defending those girls who you might never possibly meet face to face when a difference in opinion is expressed ?
It's the perfect contrast here. @M1N0RA doesn't care for either of them, that's his taste, I have no issue with it.

I don't know how to describe your opinion or taste, anyway it doesn't matter. Whatever any member express his opinion, I have no business interfering. Example, @silent1one I disagree with him pretty much 95% of the time. But mostly I don't make a fuss with him. He said his piece, sometimes I put out a different opinion, mostly I don't bother. Let everyone forms his opinion of silent1one's opinion.

But you get my special attention, I want to smack you down every single time you cross the line (despite I don't always have the time to do so). It gives me special pleasure.

Why? Because you are often the first (and only) to bring something interesting to here, especially from social media. So unlike vast majority of members, you can't be ignored (actually everytime you managed to bring something without adding your poison, I make a point of giving you a like, please don't pretend you don't notice it). But you are very biased on your selection and you often twist and editorialize the facts to suit your bias. I can't even remember one single time you express an opinion and own up to it. You play word games, you use half truths, you never stand up like a man and speak as yourselves.

I have made myself perfectly clear before, I know you understand me but you pretend not to, and to be wronged by me. I don't expect things to change so you can count on me sniping you early and often.
 
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darksider59

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I don't want to piss on anybody's tastes, it's OK to like what you like.
But if these two performers are the cream of the crop these days (I've got to admit, I've never even heard from them, let alone watched one of their films), there's little hope of me finding new girls to get attached to.
Yua and Shoko are probably the best sellers in JAV. So I'm a bit surprised you never heard about them. It's like watching US porn and never heard about Tori Black. Yua and Shoko are among my favorite girls because I find them attractive and they do vanilla movies. I don't like all their movies, I skip some when it's gangbang most of the scene or when there is too much of the froggy fat dude.
Seeing them together is great because I didn't think it would happen. They never did a video with another girl. It's exciting.
 

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Yua and Shoko are probably the best sellers in JAV. So I'm a bit surprised you never heard about them. It's like watching US porn and never heard about Tori Black.

Or it's like browsing S1's website every 7th and 19th to check their new releases, and not once being wowed or even mildly interested in a single release from either of them.
 
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darksider59

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Or it's like browsing S1's website every 7th and 19th to check their new releases, and not once being wowed or even mildly interested in a single release from either of them.
You can know an actress without watching her movies, just by her name. There are many actresses I don't watch, still I know their name because I see it on the movie covers. It seems that you saw their names before, that's why I wrote my previous message.
 

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I don't want to piss on anybody's tastes, it's OK to like what you like.
But if these two performers are the cream of the crop these days (I've got to admit, I've never even heard from them, let alone watched one of their films), there's little hope of me finding new girls to get attached to.
I have heard of them and I have watched their films but they don't impress me. In fact, I liked Shoko's OAE works more than her stuff in JAV. They are really pretty but too vanilla for me.

That being said, I have not watched many of their videos and I stopped following them soon after their debuts so I may be wrong. What are some of their best videos that I can watch to see if my mind can be changed?
 

ding73ding

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I have heard of them and I have watched their films but they don't impress me. In fact, I liked Shoko's OAE works more than her stuff in JAV. They are really pretty but too vanilla for me.

That being said, I have not watched many of their videos and I stopped following them soon after their debuts so I may be wrong. What are some of their best videos that I can watch to see if my mind can be changed?
I rather doubt it, both girls are celebs, their early vids already put their best assets forward. If you didn't buy into it then, you wouldn't buy into it now. Of course their celeb stardom is destined to fade over time, so either they will retire or evolve. So there's a chance they will evolve into something you like. So far I haven't seen them evolve yet.

Shoko was a gravue idol before coming to AV, so it's only natural that her IV is better than average. Personally I think Yua's IV (e.g. the most recent OAE-165) are also excellent. Quite a different feel from Shoko's. Their IVs really excellently express their model (Shoko) and pop idol (Yua) personas so they are very complimentary. So it will be quite interesting dynamics when they are on screen together. If the director plays it smart, they will both shine with individuality and complimentarity.

And no. I don't think it will convert non-fan. It will only be fan service for present fans.
 

darksider59

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I rather doubt it, both girls are celebs, their early vids already put their best assets forward. If you didn't buy into it then, you wouldn't buy into it now. Of course their celeb stardom is destined to fade over time, so either they will retire or evolve. So there's a chance they will evolve into something you like. So far I haven't seen them evolve yet.

Rion never really "evolved". Same with Julia, who is in the business for a longer time. There are probably other factors but as long as they are selling well, no need to change anything. Yuma Asami or Sora Aoi before, I think it was the same.