This one was the dumbest comment. I have lived in japan for years and it doesn’t mean shit.
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This one was the dumbest comment. I have lived in japan for years and it doesn’t mean shit.
It’s cool. You are in good company here seeing your only argument is that you can spot a tattoo and that you live in Japan.
But that’s cool bro.
Sorry, I have lived in Japan for 15-ish years and have heard that “I’ve lived here for so many years so I know better” reason soooo many times it actually makes me cringe.
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This thread is hilarious , I've never lived in Japan but there are some known facts that are true not just in Japan but anywhere in the world where Criminal Organizations exist you can call them Triads, Bratva, Mafia or whatever but they all follow the same logic, they run shady and illegal business AND own many LEGAL business they need to launder their money and make it legit . Among those they usually run legal gambling and anything related to sex from stripping clubs to prostitution and to porn , piracy and especially porn piracy included , you may have noticed all those commercials about sex clubs and gambling sites preceding so many pirated movies right? Who do you think is doing that? They are ripping movies on industrial basis , more often than not leaking the new ones yet to be issued who gives them their material , while doing this they add their spots and then they upload them by the hundreds in basically every existing site that gives up JAV .
Do you have any idea about the sheer proportions of the investments needed to do that?
It's an illegal activity , who do you think may have that kind of money? Who do you think is also willing to spend such large amount over an illegal activity? Some amateurish hacker groups fighting for some freedom of speech manifesto?
Why aren't they shut down? How long would it take even if it was the dumbest police in the world to figure out those "casinos" and "stripping clubs" are related with illegal ripping and sharing of porn even to minors , they have a name and address all over it, they are owned by someone and even if it's not them who do that, they certainly pay someone for placing those commercials in there. So again why isn't the police stopping them? Who has the kind of leverage over Authorities they would need to avoid a thorough investigation on the matter and a full disclosure?
The problem with Yakuza or any other Criminals owning and controlling porn companies isn't in their ownership, it lies in their recruitments practice in the handling of the performers and all the safety issues involved.
For example it's almost a cliche to have girls and or wives handed to them to be filmed in porn to repay heavy gambling debts or shark loaning debts , so yes they are "willingly" going into it, but who manages either gambling and loans?
You don't need to live in Japan to get that , organized crime is a plague infecting every single Country on this world , some are older and famed more than most but yust think about how it works in your own country and you will have your answer.
don't tell me any "cultural difference" bullshit this kind of crminal exist all over the world no matter the culture sometimes they are centuries old , they're drivem by the same basic behavioral codes they all recognize and respect and this is why they usually come along handling and managing their activities with no cultural problems, when they go to war it's a matter of money and power not a cultural misunderstanding
Do you have any idea about the sheer proportions of the investments needed to do that?
It's an illegal activity , who do you think may have that kind of money? Who do you think is also willing to spend such large amount over an illegal activity? Some amateurish hacker groups fighting for some freedom of speech manifesto?
Why aren't they shut down? How long would it take even if it was the dumbest police in the world to figure out those "casinos" and "stripping clubs" are related with illegal ripping and sharing of porn even to minors , they have a name and address all over it, they are owned by someone and even if it's not them who do that, they certainly pay someone for placing those commercials in there. So again why isn't the police stopping them? Who has the kind of leverage over Authorities they would need to avoid a thorough investigation on the matter and a full disclosure?
The problem with Yakuza or any other Criminals owning and controlling porn companies isn't in their ownership, it lies in their recruitments practice in the handling of the performers and all the safety issues involved.
For example it's almost a cliche to have girls and or wives handed to them to be filmed in porn to repay heavy gambling debts or shark loaning debts , so yes they are "willingly" going into it, but who manages either gambling and loans?
You don't need to live in Japan to get that , organized crime is a plague infecting every single Country on this world , some are older and famed more than most but yust think about how it works in your own country and you will have your answer.
don't tell me any "cultural difference" bullshit this kind of crminal exist all over the world no matter the culture sometimes they are centuries old , they're drivem by the same basic behavioral codes they all recognize and respect and this is why they usually come along handling and managing their activities with no cultural problems, when they go to war it's a matter of money and power not a cultural misunderstanding
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Porn piracy is just made by warez teams. There are teams dedicaced to specific contents : movies, TV shows, games, ... AND porn (US, JAV). For JAV, the teams are probably from China, according to all those casino ads and yellow watermarks. They just add affiliate links, that's why there are tons of them. They get paid every time someone use their links to create an account on the casino sites.
And you know that how? They stopped their TV commercials? They made public their balancies?
Also you do know that a number of porn performers also "play at home" ?
Though if true it would be a world break out it'd be the only criminal organization in the whole world that is not involved with porn
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Maybe because Inertia works in the business and have contacts ? So his infos are more reliable. And a quick visit on Wikipedia (it was well explained in my native language version) adds more details :
About yakuza and sex industry:
Prostitution of women in general is an activity held by yakuza. This phenomenon would affect between 100,000 and 150,000 women per year in the archipel. Women forced into prostitution in Japan come mainly from Southeast Asia and the former URSS, few Japanese women are involved. However, some Japanese girls, occasionally prostitute themselves on their own initiative, in order to improve their standard of living and obtain clothes or other luxury items.
Yakuza are also heavily involved in pornography, smuggling uncensored pornography from Europe and America (the local pornographic offer being censored, which is not the case with pornography coming from Europe and America).
I didn't know Inertia was an insider , but is he? or are you just speculating?
The Wikipedia could be used as a basis for further researches but as a source in itself is as reliable as me passed out dead drunk.
You should know that here in Europe in some "beauty salons" You could find a number of Asians prostituting themselves from Thai to Chinese , passing through Vietnamese and Korean and you know what? Some of them are Japanese, I'd find it weird that A Japanese woman has to go to the other side of the world to escort but wouldn't do it closer to home.
By the way without excessive efforts and with a five minutes search on this very board
this is Kagami Shuna the pictures above are those of her escorting the one below was taken during her JAV run
And last Saotome Yui
I didn't even have to sweep the whole board I found those within 4 pages of the very same thread already!
so I'd think the Wiki is wrong it's a lot more common than they say , unless of course you can say none of those girls is Japanese
The Wikipedia could be used as a basis for further researches but as a source in itself is as reliable as me passed out dead drunk.
You should know that here in Europe in some "beauty salons" You could find a number of Asians prostituting themselves from Thai to Chinese , passing through Vietnamese and Korean and you know what? Some of them are Japanese, I'd find it weird that A Japanese woman has to go to the other side of the world to escort but wouldn't do it closer to home.
By the way without excessive efforts and with a five minutes search on this very board
this is Kagami Shuna the pictures above are those of her escorting the one below was taken during her JAV run
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Some guy recently shared uncensored images of his time with Shuna! For those of you unaware, she escorts full time since her AV career ended. She still looks as perfect as ever
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And last Saotome Yui
two comments following, I'm not the one speculating about her affiliation here
And also referring to Yui Saotome BTW the age referred must be wrong as she begun in 2014 if this was true she should have been underage back then, but I don't think so
I didn't even have to sweep the whole board I found those within 4 pages of the very same thread already!
so I'd think the Wiki is wrong it's a lot more common than they say , unless of course you can say none of those girls is Japanese
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Nowhere unless it's a decensored movie
those uncensored pictures I put where from a client of hers who gave up just those as proof that he did fuck her, but the video he took stayed private as far as I know , she quit porn a year ago and went to a club to practice "home healthcare " full time along with Yui Saotome and possibly others
He works with studios to get the movie licences for his website (subtitled JAV movies). He also visited porn sets locations if I remember well.
Yes, ex porn actresses sometimes do escort services or work in soaplands. Once you did porn, it's difficult to find a normal job (and a boss who wants to hire you) Not all of them do it though. About Yui's tattoo, it doesn't really mean that she is affiliated to yakuza. yakuza have specific tattoos, even women, and they don't look like that (her's still need to be colored).
The wiki page have sources, otherwise, the informations wouldn't be accepted.
So basically inertia deals with adiministrative stuff.
Even if just half of them work on the side escorting, or even if one third of them do , still we're talking several thousands over the years and this makes the wiki page stating that basicaly all prostitutes in Japan are foreigners and that Japanese Women seldom do that, unsubstatiated already , this without even taking into consideration what pushed those girls into porn also worked for some other girls who didn't do porn and went directly into escorting so that they could stay relatively hidden and have a normal life afterwards.
the wiki is an unreliable source, everybody can put informations there and everybody else could challenge them, there's even a link to read some debates over some notions there. If you put something without backing it up with sources it stays there until someone challenges the information asking for a source , then they alert the one who put it asking for sources then if he fails to provide sources after a while the page gets edited and the notion removed.
If nobody challenges anything the notion no matter how wrong stays there.
And this assuming the sources themselves are legit and reliable which is not always the case
As for the tattoo something that big is not done in one single session , it's done after some of them, what we saw are only the basic lines of the tattoo , that was some months old , I didn't saw its finished version but it could very much be colored already if not full at least a good portion of it .
Anyway I didn't speculate abut that , I just quoted those who did
I have a question though, outside of Yakuza how common are those tattoos in Japan? How many people would have their back fully tattoed like that? could people be mislead by those if any?
Even if just half of them work on the side escorting, or even if one third of them do , still we're talking several thousands over the years and this makes the wiki page stating that basicaly all prostitutes in Japan are foreigners and that Japanese Women seldom do that, unsubstatiated already , this without even taking into consideration what pushed those girls into porn also worked for some other girls who didn't do porn and went directly into escorting so that they could stay relatively hidden and have a normal life afterwards.
the wiki is an unreliable source, everybody can put informations there and everybody else could challenge them, there's even a link to read some debates over some notions there. If you put something without backing it up with sources it stays there until someone challenges the information asking for a source , then they alert the one who put it asking for sources then if he fails to provide sources after a while the page gets edited and the notion removed.
If nobody challenges anything the notion no matter how wrong stays there.
And this assuming the sources themselves are legit and reliable which is not always the case
As for the tattoo something that big is not done in one single session , it's done after some of them, what we saw are only the basic lines of the tattoo , that was some months old , I didn't saw its finished version but it could very much be colored already if not full at least a good portion of it .
Anyway I didn't speculate abut that , I just quoted those who did
I have a question though, outside of Yakuza how common are those tattoos in Japan? How many people would have their back fully tattoed like that? could people be mislead by those if any?
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Japan's population is around 120 millions, something like that (I know it's almost twice my country's population). Let's say half of it are women. So there are 60 millions women in Japan. My country, according to the OCRTEH (an organization combating human trafficking), has around 20 000 prostitutes. So, Even if there are 40 000 japanese girls escorting on their own will, it's a very very small part.
Tattoos in Japan have still a bad reputation, because of Yakuza. However, there are people who don't care what others will think about them and will get tattoos because they like it (so, I guess it's not the typical salaryman lol). The singer Miyavi is a good example. For Yui, she was in porn, so she was already "marginalized". I suppose some people would not take the time to make the difference. There are people like that in every country and for everything. (I have to deal with some people thinking whey protein is steroid lol). In Japan, it's probably more accepted by the younger generations.
Tattoos in Japan have still a bad reputation, because of Yakuza. However, there are people who don't care what others will think about them and will get tattoos because they like it (so, I guess it's not the typical salaryman lol). The singer Miyavi is a good example. For Yui, she was in porn, so she was already "marginalized". I suppose some people would not take the time to make the difference. There are people like that in every country and for everything. (I have to deal with some people thinking whey protein is steroid lol). In Japan, it's probably more accepted by the younger generations.
Let's not get driven away with diversions, you quoted this from the Wikipedia
It might be a small part of the global population but it's still one third of the prostutites working in Japan according to the very same Wikipedia that you youself provided as a source statng that there are 100,000 to 150,000 prostitutes in Japan.
Even if they were "just" 20,000 as your minimal figures it's still at least 20% of the total , a significant part of the escort market , and this is cetainly not the "few Japanese that occasionally prostitute themselves" as stated on the wikipage quoted above which is clearly biased and greatly underestimates the phenomenon of prostitution among the Japanese women.
and this is exactly the pointI was making from the beginning
And then you added this.
It might be a small part of the global population but it's still one third of the prostutites working in Japan according to the very same Wikipedia that you youself provided as a source statng that there are 100,000 to 150,000 prostitutes in Japan.
Even if they were "just" 20,000 as your minimal figures it's still at least 20% of the total , a significant part of the escort market , and this is cetainly not the "few Japanese that occasionally prostitute themselves" as stated on the wikipage quoted above which is clearly biased and greatly underestimates the phenomenon of prostitution among the Japanese women.
and this is exactly the pointI was making from the beginning
The wiki numbers are about prostitution controled by yakuza and the second number is a global number about japanese girls doing prostitution (by themself or "controled" by yakuza). And the second number is pure speculation, it can be less than that.
You still miss the point , whether the numbers are speculation or not , we're still well into several thousands not within the "Japanese girls occasiaonally prostitute themselves" it's beyond that by far unless you're saying there are thousands of Japanese prostitutes left alone by the Yakuza
It is a lot it's a third of the total number of prostitutes provided by the wiki you quoted even in the lower case we're still around 20% and it's certainly nothing occasional , it's professional .
Let's have a remainder of what happened at some point of this thread, it was quoted a wikipage claming that almost all the prostitution in Japan was performed by asian foreigners , Japanese women do that occasionaly when they need to buy something they couldn't normally afford
I thought what was on that wiki page was biased bullshit written by some wishful thinker in total denial
Then I just put the word "escort" as a key on the search engine of this very board and I found out some Japanese escorts in a matter of seconds , I didn't even had to browse the board , there were enough sources in a single thread already , so I put my reply challenging that claim .
Many pornstars escort on the side (it's a worldwide phenomenon ) either while still performing or going full time escorting when out of the JAV industry , given the sheer number of pornstars who work or worked there over the years , such number must have been in the order of many thousands escorting professionally.
So the Wiki Page was wrong .
It doesn't matter how many escorts are there compared with the total population , it'll be ALWAYS LOW whatever country you'd pick compared to the much greater number of their population , what really matters are the percentage of the total doing that job and the compared proportions between local workers and foreign workers . Whatever you choose the number of Japanese women escorting is significant and consistent on both accounts , nothing occasional
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