Watermarks You Hate
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I saw in another thread that several JAV sites were shut down. As the sites using those horrible watermarks are probably in China they're much less likely to be hit. Too bad, i wouldn't mind if they got shut down.
I just don't understand why they go though the trouble of re-encoding every video just to put their hideous watermarks on it. Like most things in life they must be trying to benefit from all that time and effort. As far as I can tell they are attempting to advertise their shitty website. And yes, it is shitty. I visited it using TOR on a throwaway VM (because I'm paranoid like that). Its completely in Chinese and plagued with ads making it totally unusable.
With that said, I've always wondered why the JAV community is not more like (by that I mean: the exact opposite of) the anime fansub community. There literally exists thousands of anime fan-subbing groups releasing high quality work, daily, for free through torrents, IRC, and direct downloads. The JAV community on the other hand always seems to be trying to make a buck here or there either through advertising (watermarking), premium file hosts, paywalls, protected RARs that ask money for the password, or paid subtitles. I'm comparing it to anime because the origin and spoken language are both Japanese, but its not limited to just anime. Movie pirates like YIFY, EVO, and RARBG wouldn't dare think of charging or putting watermarks on their releases. The same goes for music, application/game, and TV show pirates. Yet everyone in the JAV community seems to be a hustler (except for the righteous few, you know who you are
).
I'm not complaining, just merely stating the facts as I am genuinely looking for an answer. Because it seems that every form of pirated digital media is clean, high quality, and free, while JAV tends to be the exact opposite. If I had to guess, I'd attribute it to the shady nature of the porn industry. With that theory I suppose Western porn has the same problem, but since I rarely delve in that arena I really can't say.
With that said, I've always wondered why the JAV community is not more like (by that I mean: the exact opposite of) the anime fansub community. There literally exists thousands of anime fan-subbing groups releasing high quality work, daily, for free through torrents, IRC, and direct downloads. The JAV community on the other hand always seems to be trying to make a buck here or there either through advertising (watermarking), premium file hosts, paywalls, protected RARs that ask money for the password, or paid subtitles. I'm comparing it to anime because the origin and spoken language are both Japanese, but its not limited to just anime. Movie pirates like YIFY, EVO, and RARBG wouldn't dare think of charging or putting watermarks on their releases. The same goes for music, application/game, and TV show pirates. Yet everyone in the JAV community seems to be a hustler (except for the righteous few, you know who you are
).I'm not complaining, just merely stating the facts as I am genuinely looking for an answer. Because it seems that every form of pirated digital media is clean, high quality, and free, while JAV tends to be the exact opposite. If I had to guess, I'd attribute it to the shady nature of the porn industry. With that theory I suppose Western porn has the same problem, but since I rarely delve in that arena I really can't say.
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needs more loli that is a VERY good point that I’ve never thought of. You’re exactly right. All other manner of media out there is 99% (if not 100%) free of anything other than the actual content. I say 99% because I have come across, on occasion, fan subs for Japanese and Korean detective shows where the subtitles will say something like “brought to you by X Group – please do not remove” or along those lines. They are SRT files, so of course they can be removed, so, that’s never a problem. The thing is, even though they can hard sub things they don’t.
Yes, I once followed the ugly yellow brick road to their site sometime back using Firefox with every kind of script blocker available. When it came up it just looked like a place to contract a bunch of hard drive killers so I got the hell out of there. I think there could be a few things at play, here. Humor me for a moment, as I’m sure I’m repeating things already said:
1. dioguitar could be an impotent narcissist that likes to see his watermarked moniker on his “releases” to prove that his was the first one out on the web (bragging rights). A birthmark, if you will, that every other flip master out there (the guys that download from Host A so they can upload to Hosts B-Z) will have no choice but to also offer it to their followers. Of course, the other idiots that encode again just to place their tattoos on the already marked content are doing the same, even placing theirs over others. That’s a funny example you provided!
2. dioguitar and the others could be like those horrible angler fish that are trying to lure people in. The desperate downloaders out there that don’t know or care about quality just might think “Wow! This is great that I got this super-hot Japanese woman’s DVD. Oh look, there’s a website. I bet they have MORE!” So, off he goes to get his computer infected with something the Chinese hacking scene has no doubt cooked up to take over the world’s financial systems! Okay, maybe not that, but you know what I mean.
And let’s face it…the average JAV consumer (not so much JAV fan) is only after his fix, nothing more. So…bad quality is better than a void.
I would guess there are a magnitude more younger people out there into the Anime scene than there are those from their generation into then JAV scene, which they would have to hide their involvement in, perhaps. They could probably care less about JAV because it doesn’t have awesome animation, fighting, robots, titans that eat people, and so on. With Anime you are also more likely to find things posted on YouTube or eventually make its way to some cable/satellite channel or mainstream non-pirated streaming site. Unlike JAV it is not illegal to ship such content overseas, as well, so they have plenty of ways to get it if they want, and/or to provide it to others.
The movie guys are all about quality (the big ones, anyway). As pristine a picture as possible is what they’re after. And really, for the most part their form of “watermarking” is either including their information in some text file or hyperlink file within the RAR package and/or those huge Release Group ascii art things they use in their forum posts. Some of those get rather intricate! But none of them impact the picture.
Western stuff…unless I just haven’t looked hard enough, is rarely watermarked. Heck, even things that make it to decent tube sites still don’t have watermarks.
1. dioguitar could be an impotent narcissist that likes to see his watermarked moniker on his “releases” to prove that his was the first one out on the web (bragging rights). A birthmark, if you will, that every other flip master out there (the guys that download from Host A so they can upload to Hosts B-Z) will have no choice but to also offer it to their followers. Of course, the other idiots that encode again just to place their tattoos on the already marked content are doing the same, even placing theirs over others. That’s a funny example you provided!
2. dioguitar and the others could be like those horrible angler fish that are trying to lure people in. The desperate downloaders out there that don’t know or care about quality just might think “Wow! This is great that I got this super-hot Japanese woman’s DVD. Oh look, there’s a website. I bet they have MORE!” So, off he goes to get his computer infected with something the Chinese hacking scene has no doubt cooked up to take over the world’s financial systems! Okay, maybe not that, but you know what I mean.
And let’s face it…the average JAV consumer (not so much JAV fan) is only after his fix, nothing more. So…bad quality is better than a void.
I would guess there are a magnitude more younger people out there into the Anime scene than there are those from their generation into then JAV scene, which they would have to hide their involvement in, perhaps. They could probably care less about JAV because it doesn’t have awesome animation, fighting, robots, titans that eat people, and so on. With Anime you are also more likely to find things posted on YouTube or eventually make its way to some cable/satellite channel or mainstream non-pirated streaming site. Unlike JAV it is not illegal to ship such content overseas, as well, so they have plenty of ways to get it if they want, and/or to provide it to others.
The movie guys are all about quality (the big ones, anyway). As pristine a picture as possible is what they’re after. And really, for the most part their form of “watermarking” is either including their information in some text file or hyperlink file within the RAR package and/or those huge Release Group ascii art things they use in their forum posts. Some of those get rather intricate! But none of them impact the picture.
Western stuff…unless I just haven’t looked hard enough, is rarely watermarked. Heck, even things that make it to decent tube sites still don’t have watermarks.
I think dioguitar's watermarks have web adresses on them for some chinese casinos, so he might be paid for putting them there.
And these aren't much better if you ask me, and the video quality was worse than dioguitar's last time I've seen a movie with them:
And these aren't much better if you ask me, and the video quality was worse than dioguitar's last time I've seen a movie with them:
You mean the ones with the 30 sec Chinese casino ads at the beginning... those are so bad its hilarious.
Dioguitar has used watermarks for as long as i remember. Before the yellow ones he used gray hotavxxx.com and dioguitar23 marks on his dvd rips. They were kinda stylish so people dindt give too much care about it , but when he started to use the yellow ones in late 2013 the shitstorm started.
Dioguitar torrents' original source is hotavxxx.com and dioguitar23.net , these sites are perfectly safe. And why does he do it? Because his releases are on every single jav torrent/site , so he probobly gets a lot of cash for advertising.
Dioguitar torrents' original source is hotavxxx.com and dioguitar23.net , these sites are perfectly safe. And why does he do it? Because his releases are on every single jav torrent/site , so he probobly gets a lot of cash for advertising.
New release, ATFB-298.
At least it's not as bad as the yellow ones. Hopefully it stays that way.
At least it's not as bad as the yellow ones. Hopefully it stays that way.
Not only do watermarks distracting and block part of the picture, I am guessing that that adding them to the video requries it to be re-encoded as well, degrading the quality of the video each time it is done.
I don't download these videos for those reasons. None of the existing videos in my collection are watermarked, and non-watermarked videos are still coming out, so why should I waste time and bandwidth and hard drive space on watermarked ones? And also I think that downloading these watermarked files just encourages watermarking. But it's your choice I guess. Personally I choose not be a part of this watermarking bullshit.
I don't download these videos for those reasons. None of the existing videos in my collection are watermarked, and non-watermarked videos are still coming out, so why should I waste time and bandwidth and hard drive space on watermarked ones? And also I think that downloading these watermarked files just encourages watermarking. But it's your choice I guess. Personally I choose not be a part of this watermarking bullshit.
The problem with that, for me at least, is that there are already 100's of new releases every month that I ignore, because they don't appeal to my fetishes or the actresses don't do it for me. If I'd also ignore every watermarked movie, there'd hardly be anything left, because a good portion of non-watermarked releases will always belong to the group of movies I don't care about anyway.
I gotta say though, I did delete quite a few of those movies with chinese ads at the beginning after watching them. I mean, an ad at the beginning isn't even that bad, it's not like it happens in the middle of a scene and the watermarks in those ones are not as bad as the yellow ones.
But the image quality in those ones is almost always atrocious and what's more, a lot of those have fucked up sound where it'll start to go completly out of sync at some point and remains like that throughout the rest of the video.
Rei Mizuna's International Gokkun Gangbang suffered from this big-time. D=
I gotta say though, I did delete quite a few of those movies with chinese ads at the beginning after watching them. I mean, an ad at the beginning isn't even that bad, it's not like it happens in the middle of a scene and the watermarks in those ones are not as bad as the yellow ones.
But the image quality in those ones is almost always atrocious and what's more, a lot of those have fucked up sound where it'll start to go completly out of sync at some point and remains like that throughout the rest of the video.
Rei Mizuna's International Gokkun Gangbang suffered from this big-time. D=
I've had it up to here with that stupid chinese casino commercial at the start of each video. Just want to punch that lady everytime I hear her voice lol. Just seeing this infuriates me. 
And in addition to the fact that its reencoded and loses quality, I've noticed that a lot of videos with this commercial at the beginning has about a full HOUR of trailers tacked on to the end. That's a ton of wasted space
And in addition to the fact that its reencoded and loses quality, I've noticed that a lot of videos with this commercial at the beginning has about a full HOUR of trailers tacked on to the end. That's a ton of wasted space
I've never seen one with these commercials, I guess it has horrible watermarks too so I never even download them.
I hoped the watermarks would be a passing fad, but I guess enough people download the files despite them that it is still profitable to put them in.
The thing I'm most annoyed with is that I'm giving people who post this crap money because it is not clearly marked which movies have the watermarks so I have to look at the screen shots and give them views (and thus money) just to find out.I guess that's one reason they keep on making those because the views are all tehy're after and they don't really care who watches the actual movie.
I would totally support a "watermark free" section of the forum just like we have an "uncensored" section.
I hoped the watermarks would be a passing fad, but I guess enough people download the files despite them that it is still profitable to put them in.
The thing I'm most annoyed with is that I'm giving people who post this crap money because it is not clearly marked which movies have the watermarks so I have to look at the screen shots and give them views (and thus money) just to find out.I guess that's one reason they keep on making those because the views are all tehy're after and they don't really care who watches the actual movie.
I would totally support a "watermark free" section of the forum just like we have an "uncensored" section.