when S1 will make a proper orgy?

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^ they do a few of those kinds each year, I think the OP is looking for a bigger orgy, the ones I found with more then 2 girls in recent years are
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The real orgy from S1 I remember was the Madison tsubaki that feature the top s1 av actresses during the late 2000s like rio and akiho and I'm talking about the ones like moodyz did for their anniversary featuring 9 popular girls like anri okita and yui hatano in a blond wig doing it with multiple guys. Nowadays, s1 feature multiple girls doing pov shot with one guy or like ideapocket beauty Venus that only feature 3 guy or 3 girls. Btw I remember s1 got some issue with their titles and have both parts of the tsubaki pulled and renamed back in 09 I believe. Mihiro and sora was there, but they didn't take part. If Maria and Yua was still there then they'll definitely be included. Nowadays, it's lucky enough to see the vanilla-ish gb and perhaps facials, but no creampies or real orgy featuring a lot of top idols.
 
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The real orgy from S1 I remember was the Madison tsubaki that feature the top s1 av actresses during the late 2000s like rio and akiho and I'm talking about the ones like moodyz did for their anniversary featuring 9 popular girls like anri okita and yui hatano in a blond wig doing it with multiple guys. Nowadays, s1 feature multiple girls doing pov shot with one guy or like ideapocket beauty Venus that only feature 3 guy or 3 girls. Btw I remember s1 got some issue with their titles and have both parts of the tsubaki pulled and renamed back in 09 I believe. Mihiro and sora was there, but they didn't take part. If Maria and Yua was still there then they'll definitely be included. Nowadays, it's lucky enough to see the vanilla-ish gb and perhaps facials, but no creampies or real orgy featuring a lot of top idols.

Yeah things were different in the beginning of 2000s but that period of time had its problems too it was severley hard to got a title after its release and sometimes u find a very slow torrent links and sometimes u hjust have to accept that u can't have i, now those problems r gone but the quality of the industry become less in some stuff as gangbang, orgy , lesbian videos and become much better when it comes to story plots, incest, loli..ect
 

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^ they do a few of those kinds each year, I think the OP is looking for a bigger orgy, the ones I found with more then 2 girls in recent years are
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those vids almost made me happy, too bad reverse gangbang only, would be awesome if with their best girls they make big all stars orgy vids like they did in the past

If you can hold your... breath, for one more month, there is this
SSNI-010
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I think it would be nice, still curious when they make orgy vid involve Rion, Tsukasa Aoi, Minami Kojima
 
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The real orgy from S1 I remember was the Madison tsubaki that feature the top s1 av actresses during the late 2000s like rio and akiho and I'm talking about the ones like moodyz did for their anniversary featuring 9 popular girls like anri okita and yui hatano in a blond wig doing it with multiple guys. Nowadays, s1 feature multiple girls doing pov shot with one guy or like ideapocket beauty Venus that only feature 3 guy or 3 girls. Btw I remember s1 got some issue with their titles and have both parts of the tsubaki pulled and renamed back in 09 I believe. Mihiro and sora was there, but they didn't take part. If Maria and Yua was still there then they'll definitely be included. Nowadays, it's lucky enough to see the vanilla-ish gb and perhaps facials, but no creampies or real orgy featuring a lot of top idols.

yess Tsubaki is the best vid from S1, unfortunately Sora Aoi and Mihiro did not take part in the orgy action :( and its been pulled out :( (thanks to internet I've download it) but overall its still very good orgy porn

I totally agree with you, this vid could be super perfect ... could be the best ever JAV in all time if Mihiro, Sora Aoi, Maria Ozawa and Yua Aida involved in the orgy too
 
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The real orgy from S1 I remember was the Madison tsubaki that feature the top s1 av actresses during the late 2000s like rio and akiho and I'm talking about the ones like moodyz did for their anniversary featuring 9 popular girls like anri okita and yui hatano in a blond wig doing it with multiple guys.
I remember Maison Tsubaki (or Mansion? Definitely not Madison). It was epic on paper (cover) but after a couple successful "viewing sessions" I gently put it in the archive. It's been so long I've forgotten why it didn't do it for me. You know that period of time I wasn't too pucky any sex scene with more than two pair of nice tits ought to be "successful " enough for me, but it didn't work!

I wonder... without going back and rewatch it... was it a reverse gangbang vid?? That may explain why I put it down. And before I noticed reverse gangbang was a thing!
 

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I remember Maison Tsubaki (or Mansion? Definitely not Madison). It was epic on paper (cover) but after a couple successful "viewing sessions" I gently put it in the archive. It's been so long I've forgotten why it didn't do it for me. You know that period of time I wasn't too pucky any sex scene with more than two pair of nice tits ought to be "successful " enough for me, but it didn't work!

I wonder... without going back and rewatch it... was it a reverse gangbang vid?? That may explain why I put it down. And before I noticed reverse gangbang was a thing!
Autocorrect/typo! It was maison! I don't know if they're using French or bad romanization for mansion/home. I remember there was news about it being pulled out for a few months shortly after the 1st part was release, but they later rerelease it with the second part the next year. There used to be some fans that would translate a few av idols blogs, interviews, and news/scandals even before 2010.
 
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I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be French, there were some French porn called Maison Something or Another. OT: way way back there were actually FR, IT, and DE porn and erotica that had characters. Then they all melt into Europorn (thanks, Private ) then even Europorn and Ameriporn become undistinguishable.

Anyway my impression is that 4Maison Tsubaki didn't catch the decadance feel of FRporn. More like it feels like a crude computer simulation like the prep room in Matrix first movie but replace the guns with girls.
 
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I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be French, there were some French porn called Maison Something or Another. OT: way way back there were actually FR, IT, and DE porn and erotica that had characters. Then they all melt into Europorn (thanks, Private ) then even Europorn and Ameriporn become undistinguishable.

Anyway my impression is that 4Maison Tsubaki didn't catch the decadance feel of FRporn. More like it feels like a crude computer simulation like the prep room in Matrix first movie but replace the guns with girls.

DE mean german ? don't forget about Denmark ;) they made many porn too but people thought it was german

Italian porn was so great when they had Angelica Bella, Eva Henger but because of them now western porn became too much anal and DP :(
 

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Been a bit slow and bored... so let's bump this slightly OT angle.

DE mean german ? don't forget about Denmark ;) they made many porn too but people thought it was german
Italian porn was so great when they had Angelica Bella, Eva Henger but because of them now western porn became too much anal and DP :(

Yes... DE is Germany. Denmark is DK. True back in the days, DK and other Scandinavian countries were global leaders in porn. Now... well... last month in Toronto, I noticed in a adult shop (one of the last few brick-mortar adult shops remaining) there are many more vintage Scandinavian porns than Private (I guess their reign of Europorn evaporated in last few years) and JAV combined. So for any talk of JAV taking over Americas. Forget it, if JAV can't even compete against 1970s vintage.

I rather dispute there's too much anal and DP in Western porn. Fine may be there's a bit too much. Almost 100% of sex scenes had all the girls' anus being fucked.
Personally I'd support reducing that percentage... Let's say to 75% ... ok may be as low as 60%... But not lower. I think 2017 ... come on, we are half century after the sexual revolution, anal sex should be viewed as normal as sucking dicks. Fine in real world, less than 50% (maybe a lot less) of sexual activity involve anal penetration, but porn isn't real, it's a bit exaggerated. It's more gonzo than real world sex. So yeah... I want to see some anal fuck 2 out of 3 times, but in real world I do anal sex only maybe 1 out of 20 times.

Personally I am deeply grateful to Europorn for the near 100% anal sex, everyone (especially women) need to see that anal sex is nothing out of the ordinary. Sure not everyone may personally enjoy it or even tolerate it. But everyone should be "educated" that it's commonly enjoyed by many people. I only get to enjoy anal sex because women get to see it on porn (even knowing it's not totally realistic) not once or twice, but practically every girl in every scene.

Recently I read that many young American girls keep themselves as technical virgin until the (first ;)) wedding day but engage in casual sex by only doing oral and anal sex. Well I think the idea that you have to have a red stain on the wedding bed is barbaric, but hah, I rather like the idea that a large fraction of the girls are very slutty in the behind.

JAV, by comparison, is one whole century behind the curve. Today I was particularly saddened to see my of my old fav, Akari Asagiri, doing a scat vid. Sorry it's not a non sequitor. Yes she's older (still barely a MILF, soon she will be doing grandma-porn) so her stereotype is low class, meaning regular uncensored vids and once in a while anal, especially the lowest of the low: uncensored anal. ARG! That's so twisted Japan mentality. Seeing the genitals sans mosaic is so natural (for EVERYONE doing sex with the lights on) and anal sex is also nothing too weird. But once a girl, Akari, has that "dark side" tags with anal and uncensored, according to Japanese view, there's almost no more barrier to disgusting and humiliation. Once a girl is "anal-able", "scat-able" is not far behind. Well I really really disagree with that.

I think most (more than 50%) adult performers should have done anal sex at least once in their career. But scat is for the extreme few, let's say less than 1%. Hmm.. let's think it thru... at any one time, take the top 100 AV idols, how many "scat-able" idols do I expect/accept? About one or less... that's about right.
 

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Been a bit slow and bored... so let's bump this slightly OT angle.

I rather dispute there's too much anal and DP in Western porn. Fine may be there's a bit too much. Almost 100% of sex scenes had all the girls' anus being fucked.


Recently I read that many young American girls keep themselves as technical virgin until the (first ;)) wedding day but engage in casual sex by only doing oral and anal sex. Well I think the idea that you have to have a red stain on the wedding bed is barbaric, but hah, I rather like the idea that a large fraction of the girls are very slutty in the behind.


I think most (more than 50%) adult performers should have done anal sex at least once in their career. But scat is for the extreme few, let's say less than 1%. Hmm.. let's think it thru... at any one time, take the top 100 AV idols, how many "scat-able" idols do I expect/accept? About one or less... that's about right.

Not much to dispute there, pretty much all of Euro porn does it, and everyone demands it in the US, like for an example it's very rare for someone to win any major awards unless they do those these days

On the American thing, so that is a Catholic thing when i was in HS (6 years ago) at catholic schools it was very common, but regular schools not so much besides Oral

Anal in JAV, i've never liked how its been done, I think the amount we get from it is fine until they standardize it, Maria Ozawa was the last ones anal that I really enjoyed, it just really isn't done well
 

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I hate Anal and Scat is just messed up. Only thing worse is the beastiality movie. I noticed a thread on here for that but I am not one to judge. I just stay way clear of these things and stick to what I like.
 

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I wish every JAV had anal too. But JAV has other things make up for the lack of anal. But not so much S1. I think I only have one S1 video. They are really boring.

I think part of the appeal of anal is it is out of the ordinary in real life. S1 doesn't offer much out of ordinary, anal or not.

Anal is more submission and domination. More of a sacrifice. Girls in Euro/US porn always have to be the one in control, so they go too far to show that they enjoy anal. Maybe JAV is the opposite problem, girls going too far to show that they don't enjoy it.
 

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Been a bit slow and bored... so let's bump this slightly OT angle.



Yes... DE is Germany. Denmark is DK. True back in the days, DK and other Scandinavian countries were global leaders in porn. Now... well... last month in Toronto, I noticed in a adult shop (one of the last few brick-mortar adult shops remaining) there are many more vintage Scandinavian porns than Private (I guess their reign of Europorn evaporated in last few years) and JAV combined. So for any talk of JAV taking over Americas. Forget it, if JAV can't even compete against 1970s vintage.

I rather dispute there's too much anal and DP in Western porn. Fine may be there's a bit too much. Almost 100% of sex scenes had all the girls' anus being fucked.
Personally I'd support reducing that percentage... Let's say to 75% ... ok may be as low as 60%... But not lower. I think 2017 ... come on, we are half century after the sexual revolution, anal sex should be viewed as normal as sucking dicks. Fine in real world, less than 50% (maybe a lot less) of sexual activity involve anal penetration, but porn isn't real, it's a bit exaggerated. It's more gonzo than real world sex. So yeah... I want to see some anal fuck 2 out of 3 times, but in real world I do anal sex only maybe 1 out of 20 times.

Personally I am deeply grateful to Europorn for the near 100% anal sex, everyone (especially women) need to see that anal sex is nothing out of the ordinary. Sure not everyone may personally enjoy it or even tolerate it. But everyone should be "educated" that it's commonly enjoyed by many people. I only get to enjoy anal sex because women get to see it on porn (even knowing it's not totally realistic) not once or twice, but practically every girl in every scene.

Recently I read that many young American girls keep themselves as technical virgin until the (first ;)) wedding day but engage in casual sex by only doing oral and anal sex. Well I think the idea that you have to have a red stain on the wedding bed is barbaric, but hah, I rather like the idea that a large fraction of the girls are very slutty in the behind.

JAV, by comparison, is one whole century behind the curve. Today I was particularly saddened to see my of my old fav, Akari Asagiri, doing a scat vid. Sorry it's not a non sequitor. Yes she's older (still barely a MILF, soon she will be doing grandma-porn) so her stereotype is low class, meaning regular uncensored vids and once in a while anal, especially the lowest of the low: uncensored anal. ARG! That's so twisted Japan mentality. Seeing the genitals sans mosaic is so natural (for EVERYONE doing sex with the lights on) and anal sex is also nothing too weird. But once a girl, Akari, has that "dark side" tags with anal and uncensored, according to Japanese view, there's almost no more barrier to disgusting and humiliation. Once a girl is "anal-able", "scat-able" is not far behind. Well I really really disagree with that.

I think most (more than 50%) adult performers should have done anal sex at least once in their career. But scat is for the extreme few, let's say less than 1%. Hmm.. let's think it thru... at any one time, take the top 100 AV idols, how many "scat-able" idols do I expect/accept? About one or less... that's about right.

There is a reason why they made Swedish erotis series

Euro & American porn from the golden era (many of it) are ever green

Those guys who think JAV will took over the world should see it from wider perspective

I don't like anal sex, both in porn & real life, and I love 90s Italian porn, their best era with many great girls, but I think their anal are too much (personal opinion)

Well ini my time, oral & dry jump, today generation are more extreme
 

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I didn't want to derail this topic to anal porn. Let me at least repeat that I don't want every JAV to include anal, but (1) most idols should have done at least one anal scene in her career, (2) every studio should make some anal sex regularly (3) please JAV need to learn to treat anal sex more normally, it's not torture, it's a stud and a slut enjoy themselves with cock pumping tight hole. I remember JAV used to treat oral sex as a man torturing a woman, now more often oral sex is a two-way pleasure making, they need to learn that for anal sex too. (4) dildos/vibrator is fine as foreplay, but it's not sex. Like if someone put/pump a cucumber into a woman's mouth, I am not even sure it's legally sex or r*** in legal terms.

Anyway... sorry I wasn't wanting to keep it going, but I did... hmm... The real purpose is to bring the thread back on topic.

SSNI-010 sucks

I'm not a huge fan of either Nami Hoshino or Saki Okuda but the few times I watch them, neither were disappointing. (one recent vid of Saki showed her aged rather badly :()

Now SSNI-010... a big vid, 4 full hours. A rare duet for S1, a rare non-POV, non-harem multi-idol vid for recent JAV, shouldn't disappoint right? WRONG.

The vid starts slow, it takes more than 45 mins before the women took off their freaking shoes. 53 minutes the camera finally gets a peek of panty, the first time a girl opens a button was 59 minutes. The first sex scene progress from there...a vanilla 2P affairs (Saki) that lasted exactly 30 mins.

Then another 2P scene of Nami again formulaic procedure that also lasted 30 mins.

Then we are back to eating, drinking, talking, playing cards and games for 40+ mins, before we even get to some touching with full cloths on. It's another 10 mins (it's 2:50 of the vid if you pay attention) before one girl got her tits freed. The previous 50 mins of talking were 4P, but the sex happens with a kinda split up two times 2P with each pair politely separated into semi-separated rooms. Some camera angle can show the two fucking pairs in the same shot, but each pair is separated by about 10m straight line distance. This is not group sex!!

With scene 3 over at 3:16, the two girls share a bath tub. This is the first time the two girls are interacting in the nude, after more than 75% of run time. Anyway the two are friends in the movie, so let's hope for at least a bit of touching and fondling right? NO! The bath tub is small for 2 adults, but they managed to maintain clear separation between them as they chat and laugh about their concurrent sex. And then it's over, only 2 mins. What a waste.

The 4 players went back to the bed (same bed used by Nami in scene 3) finally we have some 4P sex? Not so fast, between the shared bath and the bed, the two ladies managed to become fully clothed again, and we need 8 more mins of kissing and fondling before both girls got naked again. Normally 8 mins is decent pace for foreplay but we are now 3:26 into a 3:55 vid that's supposed to be 4P and we still haven't seen anything more than 2P. As the undressing and kissing and fondling and muffdiving progress leisurely, I had pretty much completely given up any hope. It looks like we are going to have 2 pairs of vanilla 2P sex, only it's happening on a modest double size bed (instead of 10m gap)

Then it happens! While Saki is gently blowing her BF, he reaches over gingerly to blush Nami's butt. Then very slowly, he touch Nami's right tit a couple times. That's it, at least for now. That's the 4P interaction? Then Nami's BF exits the scene (why? Did Nami cum on his face? ) and Nami promptly join the other couple as Saki is sucking her BF, Nami licks his balls. Good good, now we are fapping. Nami's BF come back to the scene and went to kiss Saki's butt, Good good good. But then Nami's BF start fingering Nami's pussy while still kissing Saki's butt and then he detach his lips from Saki's butt as Nami lose contact with Saki's BF's balls. So we are now back to vanilla 2P sex without partner swapping. Yeah briefly Nami assisted Saki blowing her BF and Nami's BF lightly touched (or penetrated?) Saki's pussy with his fingers. And then when Saki's BF exits the scene for a minute, Nami's BF invted Saki to pleasure his nipples while he keeps fucking Nami. But as if sensing something naughty might develop, Saki' BF rush back to the scene to reclaim Saki, back to vanilla double 2P.

Finally maybe sensing something is missing, Nami's BF says something to Saki's BF and directed a change of posture. Generously he gave both girls to Saki's BF before coming around to stick his cock into Saki's pussy. Finally (time check: 3:42) with Saki's BF's tongue in Nami's pussy and Nami's BF's cock in Saki's pussy, we have actually achieved partner swap.

The rest of the vid is still somewhat unremarkable, the partners swapped only once more otherwise it was still pretty close to 2 pair of fuckers doing it on the same bed. There's only minimal interaction between two fucking pairs (in between the swapping). E.g. when Nami's BF exit the scene again for half a minute, the Saki's BF takes the opportunity to fondle Nami's tits and pussy while fucking Saki. But again the "jealous" BF come back to break up the 3P and resettle into double 2P again.

Cum to think of it... I saw Saki cum (peed?) on Nami's BF's chest, but I only saw the BF's shoot sperms on the face and chest of their respective GF, the camera didn't show the BF's orgasm during the partner swap. Normally I don't care about sperm much but because it's a failed group sex vid, I notice the whole vid seems like almost two pair of BF/GF happens to have sex together and only very briefly and gingerly make some minimal pleasure while swapping partners, perhaps with condoms. Look I can even tolerate condom-porn, but please make a decent group sex scene!!!

In summary, it's very slow paced if you think of it as generic JAV, but if you are expect a duet and/or group sex, it's a huge disappointment.

EDIT: I just realized the two studs in scenes 1 and 2 are not the same studs in scenes 3 and 4. So they aren't "steady" pairs of lovers. All the more unexplainable why they fuck like monogamous couples in the only group sex scene of the vid.


If you can hold your... breath, for one more month, there is this
SSNI-010
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