Why jav male actors are very few and too old?
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There are young actors, more are used in movies from "smaller" studios. For example, if you watch family theme movies, you can see them. Some can be used by big studios like S1, but unfortunately, most of time, they use the same old ugly dudes.
The main reason about the small number is the pay per movie/scene, way lower than actresses.
The main reason about the small number is the pay per movie/scene, way lower than actresses.
Thank you. higher salaries are natural and reasonable for actress. For example in USA actresses catch more money than male actors. But USA adult studios have more respect to the audience with using handsome guys.
In jav industry unfortunately there is no variety in changing male actors.
Another problem is Jav studios even don't write the name of male actors in movie cast data. It is very stupid even r18 don't insert the name of that guys!
For example if I want to fallow specific male scenes there is not any way in any website! Unfortunately most studios in Jav industry ignores women audiences.
For example if I want to fallow specific male scenes there is not any way in any website! Unfortunately most studios in Jav industry ignores women audiences.
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They will lose a good amount of fan base if they were casting only young and fit guys in their movies. There is an insane amount of JAV fans that love to see these young and beautiful japanese girls getting use and abuse by old and ugly male actors. I think it's what make JAV so good compare to western porn. The fact that you have something you can't find elsewhere. Yes, there is some old and young movies from others country but the girls are far to be that beautiful and the plot/drama theme is not even close of what Japanese studio produce.
JAV have a ''taboo'' theme for everyone taste and this is what make it so special.
-Besh
They will lose a good amount of fan base if they were casting only young and fit guys in their movies. There is an insane amount of JAV fans that love to see these young and beautiful japanese girls getting use and abuse by old and ugly male actors. I think it's what make JAV so good compare to western porn. The fact that you have something you can't find elsewhere. Yes, there is some old and young movies from others country but the girls are far to be that beautiful and the plot/drama theme is not even close of what Japanese studio produce.
JAV have a ''taboo'' theme for everyone taste and this is what make it so special.
-Besh
This is due to cultural reasons.
Japanese male clients do not want to see handsome/fit guys in the movies. There are a couple of reasons for this:
- If the guy acting is average or ugly/fat it makes the story as anyone can fuck this kind of girls. If the actors are handsome/fit they feel like: " only handsome guys can fuck this girls".
- If they see handsome/fit guys in the movie they feel jealous.
Japanese male clients do not want to see handsome/fit guys in the movies. There are a couple of reasons for this:
- If the guy acting is average or ugly/fat it makes the story as anyone can fuck this kind of girls. If the actors are handsome/fit they feel like: " only handsome guys can fuck this girls".
- If they see handsome/fit guys in the movie they feel jealous.
As a non-Japanese person (but also an Asian if that matters), I find this quite amusing.
Anyway I pay less attention to how an actor looks like physically. What I want to see is that they put some excitement and emotion into a scene. I hate pro actors who act like robots - I do know that it's just a job and they may not even like the girls they are working with.
Very thanks for your detailed answers. If we want to conclude, most important reason is cultural reasons. But do you think the tastes of the audience also changes over time? About 20 years ago Fa pro studio and some like that create movies with too old male actors and now there is same situation like 20 years old. Most studios make movies with the same old males! How many new male actors do you know added between this 5 years? Near zero.
Let me compare Jav vs South Korean adult films. Of course Jav movies have more viewer. But only for one reason. Jav is hardcore but south Korean adult films are softcore. If one day turned this movies from soft to hard I have no doubt Jav obliged change himself. Because Korean films have more variety with strongest plots as Jav. Drama plots in jav is very repetitious and outdated with the same old ugly men in scenes. Really what has changed during 20 years? Nothing except camera resolution.
Most of jav movies ignored women audiences . No any women like to see an ugly old dick! Silk labo studio and Madonna studio perform better but there is no doubt Jav studios need to change situations and work on better and newer plots and avoid repetitive stories with repetitive too old male actors. Unfortunately real robots is exactly this. Porn means variety not other things.
Let me compare Jav vs South Korean adult films. Of course Jav movies have more viewer. But only for one reason. Jav is hardcore but south Korean adult films are softcore. If one day turned this movies from soft to hard I have no doubt Jav obliged change himself. Because Korean films have more variety with strongest plots as Jav. Drama plots in jav is very repetitious and outdated with the same old ugly men in scenes. Really what has changed during 20 years? Nothing except camera resolution.
Most of jav movies ignored women audiences . No any women like to see an ugly old dick! Silk labo studio and Madonna studio perform better but there is no doubt Jav studios need to change situations and work on better and newer plots and avoid repetitive stories with repetitive too old male actors. Unfortunately real robots is exactly this. Porn means variety not other things.
I wrote about why it's hard for foreigners to get into JAV here: https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2020/04/12/foreigners-jav-how-can-i-get-in-on-this/
But you can basically take a lot of what I wrote there and apply it to Japanese men as well.
Becoming an actor isn't insanely difficult; it's just getting to the top requires a lot of perseverance not to mention horrible pay (think barely above minimum wage after subtracting STD testing fees that YOU have to pay for).
Thus, at the end of the day we're left with a small number of familiar yet aging faces because they're the ones who have paid their dues and still are capable of performing.
But you can basically take a lot of what I wrote there and apply it to Japanese men as well.
Becoming an actor isn't insanely difficult; it's just getting to the top requires a lot of perseverance not to mention horrible pay (think barely above minimum wage after subtracting STD testing fees that YOU have to pay for).
Thus, at the end of the day we're left with a small number of familiar yet aging faces because they're the ones who have paid their dues and still are capable of performing.
Well I see where you guys are coming from, you koolia and you Inertia...I get your point, those type of movies are very niche. But I'm a Westerner and I discovered Jav just last year and now I can't watch any other porn. I love the quality of the production, I love that a lot of them actually have interesting stories to tell (especially those old Henry Tsukamoto films), the acting is superb, Oscar-worthy in some cases (especially in the r***/incest fantasy ones) and I'm not ashamed to say that I DO LOVE SEEING OLD UGLY MEN PAIRED WITH BEAUTIFUL GIRLS. I can't put my finger on it, I guess it's the taboo aspect, or the novelty or this mixture of desire/repulse. All I know is that my partner down under (not Australia, down under my body I mean lol) absolutely gets up on those type of movies. I don't like every one of those actors though...they need to have something extra....just being old or ugly or both doesn't cut it, they also have to be good actors and I absolutely love Yuji Yamada, Ryuji Yamamoto, Former Tubby Taky Yoshimura, Yuta Imei, Gorrow and a few others. But I DESPISE Bokki Sugiura, Shigeo Takuda (he doesn't seem to know how to kiss, which makes no sense for a guy his age) and Hikaru Toda. Boring as hell.
I agree with you but at the same time I disagree. I never said that JAV studios need to dismiss all old male actors. JAV movies still need to taboo series with old and professional male actors. But I said there is no variety some audience like to watch same old males with young actress and same another audiences don't like to watch sex between young actress and old men. But most of JAV studios focusing on only a kind of pornography and do not pay attention to other tastes. I saw Henry Tsukamoto films under Fa Pro studio. Acting in his films are intermediate and it is not something special at all. You can compare acting his films with professional western porn studios like Marc dorcel. Wicked, New sensation and... Western feature studios have better acting . But still I prefer JAV . Because Western pornography is too artificial. Also during a sex scene in Western porn no emotion is transmitted between the actors. Its key point and very important that JAV is my choice. Another big problem in JAV is young actress without enough experience used in professional products. I saw very JAV sex scenes in professional product but amateur acting. For example an amateur actress think during a sex scene she must moan from first kiss to final cum. Nobody moan and screaming When only the bra strap is opening!
Well, even if I'm buff (natty), seeing steroid users in US porn is annoying too. In JAV, there are normal looking dudes, younger ones who look like teens for example. So the stories can be more believable. Going to one extreme to another (steroids user to ugly dudes) isn't necessary.
For me, those who prefer seeing ugly dudes fucking actresses are insecure fans. How could this be more believable ? Let's be honest, in real life, most the actresses (the good looking ones at least) wouldn't give those ugly dudes the time if they were asked. Let alone having sex with them.
Every time I see an ugly dude in a scene, I skip it.
There are ugly dudes that can get attractive women. First thing that comes to mind that allows ugly dudes to get hot girls is money. Then fame and status play a role, too. But I agree with the rest of what you're saying.
On the other hand I can understand where others are coming from, too. JAV is supposed to be a fantasy, so if anywhere, in JAV ugly dudes should be able to have sex with hot women. I'm sure it appeals to the older generation, and since Japan is an aging society, there are going to be more and more ugly old men to target.
I'm sure it appeals to the older generation, and since Japan is an aging society, there are going to be more and more ugly old men to target. I extremely agree with that. JAV ignored new tastes and interests. Its need to be updated. Avoid to make film like 20 years ago.
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Now I prefer to watch old men than young, it make me feel more attractive to watch with young girl
I have read all the posts on this topic.
I shake my head in surprise and disbelief.
Almost all the posts imply that the old and ugly men would dominate the scene.
The young and middle aged male actors are in the minority.
Guys, I have seen hundreds of Japanese porn videos.
The vast majority of male actors are young men as well as middle aged men; roughly from 25 to 45 years old.
Perhaps - in my personal estimation and after watching hundreds of videos - the ratio is 80% to 20%.
80% young and middle aged men and 20% male actors over 60, 65 years. Round about.
These are my experiences.
I shake my head in surprise and disbelief.
Almost all the posts imply that the old and ugly men would dominate the scene.
The young and middle aged male actors are in the minority.
Guys, I have seen hundreds of Japanese porn videos.
The vast majority of male actors are young men as well as middle aged men; roughly from 25 to 45 years old.
Perhaps - in my personal estimation and after watching hundreds of videos - the ratio is 80% to 20%.
80% young and middle aged men and 20% male actors over 60, 65 years. Round about.
These are my experiences.
The argument that many present, exemplified R18:
These arguments that the male Japanese viewers do not want to see a relatively young well-built, handsome und trained man fucking the girls are convincing and valid.
* there is the envy on the part of the male viewers of or against these handsome men.
* the feeling that only good looking younger men are allowed to fuck these pretty girls
* it's better to see an average man, the "guy next door". The average viewer can identify with the normal looking and normal equipped man. Because that means, normal average men can fuck these pretty and attractive girls.
These are convincing arguments, but the Japanese porn industry is dominated by young and middle-aged men with slim figures and good equipment.
This is indeed a contradiction.
These arguments that the male Japanese viewers do not want to see a relatively young well-built, handsome und trained man fucking the girls are convincing and valid.
* there is the envy on the part of the male viewers of or against these handsome men.
* the feeling that only good looking younger men are allowed to fuck these pretty girls
* it's better to see an average man, the "guy next door". The average viewer can identify with the normal looking and normal equipped man. Because that means, normal average men can fuck these pretty and attractive girls.
These are convincing arguments, but the Japanese porn industry is dominated by young and middle-aged men with slim figures and good equipment.
This is indeed a contradiction.
no one ever want to look at male anymore , o handsome or not , we open movie and our fingers that womens.
i really wonder when somebody ask about the actors name . so waht then you will seach for his dicks size and then play with your dicks ?
the other reason that why they come to be actors ? with all respect but i dont belive what actors said . its fun but i dont believe it , thank you so much.
if they really want money then why dont become host..hmmmmm .they can make money with not much semen leave off their body.
the painful fact i alway see in this world is .........with all my respect so i say jav actor have very low profile and make little money . low status in socity too.
so why man in japan want to become jav actress ? i want to fuck pretty girl and such ... funny story. you can fuck almost every profile women if you ....at least you have a simple job. that s it . thank you
i really wonder when somebody ask about the actors name . so waht then you will seach for his dicks size and then play with your dicks ?
the other reason that why they come to be actors ? with all respect but i dont belive what actors said . its fun but i dont believe it , thank you so much.
if they really want money then why dont become host..hmmmmm .they can make money with not much semen leave off their body.
the painful fact i alway see in this world is .........with all my respect so i say jav actor have very low profile and make little money . low status in socity too.
so why man in japan want to become jav actress ? i want to fuck pretty girl and such ... funny story. you can fuck almost every profile women if you ....at least you have a simple job. that s it . thank you
Oups yeah indeed, I don't know how I forgot that. Money and power can attract girls. Weinstein is a good example. Even if he probably did everything to "trap" the actresses, some clearly had sex with him just because they wanted to get famous. And now, they regret it. Kate Beckinsale refused his sexual advances and still managed to make a name for herself. She said it probably cost her some opportunities but she doesn't reget anything.
Okay, yesterday I swiched through new Madonna releases. 50% of the male actors are "older" guys. 5 out of 10! If its a Younger Girl - Older Man themed movie, for sure. But why always the same dudes?
And in particular this one, who seemingly is in every second movie I watch. Was looking forward for Tomoda Maki and Mizuno Yuuka, but this guy destoryed it for me.
I like kissing very much. And a good "tongue work" or some licking, especially from a women, but this guy seems to think, he is the best kisser in the world. The World Champion. But he just overdoes.
In every FA-Pro movies, he appears (a lot), Nagae Style or other movies. And always in close-ups! That his gross tongue fills my screen completly and his spit is nearly running out of it.
Somebody should send a serious letter or email to the studios: Stop this thing!!!
But maybe I am not the common JAV Fan, and the most viewer like this kind of actors. And especially this guy, l mentioned, I am sure the most know him. Me not! But it always depends on the plott. That is importent to say.
I just wanted to say that (sorry) and please dont take me too serious and appologize my bad english.
And in particular this one, who seemingly is in every second movie I watch. Was looking forward for Tomoda Maki and Mizuno Yuuka, but this guy destoryed it for me.
I like kissing very much. And a good "tongue work" or some licking, especially from a women, but this guy seems to think, he is the best kisser in the world. The World Champion. But he just overdoes.
In every FA-Pro movies, he appears (a lot), Nagae Style or other movies. And always in close-ups! That his gross tongue fills my screen completly and his spit is nearly running out of it.
Somebody should send a serious letter or email to the studios: Stop this thing!!!
But maybe I am not the common JAV Fan, and the most viewer like this kind of actors. And especially this guy, l mentioned, I am sure the most know him. Me not! But it always depends on the plott. That is importent to say.
I just wanted to say that (sorry) and please dont take me too serious and appologize my bad english.