Why some av actress don't do uncensored?

[DBGT]

Yes, I know it might be a stupid question, even though I searched a lot but could not find an answer, all the related subject was about "Why porn is censored in Japan" and I think I know about this matter, but this is not the matter here. Some actress they do not do any uncensored movie, while some do only uncensored, and some do both, I don't understand: from the first place isn't uncensored is forbidden in Japan? or these videos are selling out of Japan? and why some of the actress do censored and uncensored? do they know in advance that their movie will be cen or unc?

And one last thing: https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/popular-av-idols-whove-done-uncensored-vids.1134198/

I saw this thread above: it contains cen, unc, and tokyo hot of some actress, why tokyo hot is separate? isn't it part of uncensored?
Thanks.

 

[Electromog]

Tokyo Hot is part of uncensored, but I guess they named it seperately because it is more extreme than "regular" uncensored JAV? What with the larger number of men and the big amount of creampies they take in the last scene. Not sure, though, as I didn't make that thread.

 

[kumokuma]

Uncensored porn is illegal in Japan. Those uncensored company, like Tokyo-hot, is actually an American company.(Tokyo-hot claimed that they provide contents with people in the US, including, 2.2 million Japanese American and other US residents.) You can not find any uncensored porn in malls in Japan.
So, the whole JAV industry is based on censored porn.
They do know in advance that their movie will be cen or unc. Some JAV actress do unc because they are no longer popular, or just for more money.
Why Tokyo hot is separate? I agree with Electromog, Tokyo-hot is more hardcore that other uncensored JAV.

 

[DBGT]

Thanks for reply you both,
you said that Tokyo Hot is American and as I understand that all the people who appears there have US citizenship? but see at the beginning of almost every tokyo hot video I see "Koeln Germany" it might be "Cologne" the right word. Anyway, so how can actress just do unc to get more money? if they know their video will be unc, then they are not afraid from any or illegal issues or even arrested?

 

[Electromog]

It says a company in Cologne holds the required records for 18 U.S.C. section 2257. These are the records proving none of the people in the videos are under 18. That doesn't necessarily mean the movies are made there.

As for the people having US citizenship, there's no need for that. It's not illegal for Japanese people to star in uncensored porn in other countries. They're just not allowed to make the movies in Japan or sell them there. It's perfectly okay for somebody who lives in Japan to fly to Los Angeles for a weekend, shoot a bunch of porn scenes there and then go back home in Japan.

 

[kumokuma]

They're just not allowed to sell uncensored porn in Japan. And you don't need to fly to L.A. There is no mosaic when you shoot porn scenes.

About the money: Ai Uehara, for example, she is the top class JAV actress and many people want to see her pussy. So I think if she agree to do uncensored porn, she must get paid well.

Besides, actress belong to different agencies and agencies make contracts with porn companies. So if the agency has a good relationship with a uncensored porn company, they are more likely to send their girls to do uncensored porn.

 

[Inertia]

Uncensored porn pays a lot more than censored. Once upon a time, it was looked down upon and the uncensored studios were seen as something of a black sheep, but nowadays they are as larger if not larger than big name domestic studios. What is very common today is for actresses who are planning on retiring to cap their careers by starring in a few uncensored titles which pay many, many times more money.

 

[DBGT]

I was just to talk about Ai Uehara example, thanks for mention it, so I understand that all unc should be shooted and sold outside Japan, so I guess these unc movies must be sold digitally in Japan? or it is not allowed too?

 

[Inertia]

Uncensored can't be sold nor distributed in Japan. The "This website is providing contents with people in the US, including, 2.2 million Japanese American and other US residents" shown on Tokyo-Hot and other uncensored paysites is just boilerplate nonsense. The sites are easily accessable and oriented towards a domestic Japanese audience. They add that message just to cover their backs assuming the company is run and employed by Japanese citizens.

 

[theydonotwantto]

I was just to talk about Ai Uehara example, thanks for mention it, so I understand that all unc should be shooted and sold outside Japan, so I guess these unc movies must be sold digitally in Japan? or it is not allowed too?

We've just got Ai Uehera uncensored, yay

 

[jav-watcher]

…so I understand that all unc should be shooted and sold outside Japan

They can shoot in Japan, just not sell in Japan

 

[DBGT]

They can shoot in Japan, just not sell in Japan

so unc can only be sold digitally?

 

[Fisheraaa]

so unc can only be sold digitally?

No , you can also order DVDs and Blu-Rays

 

[Inertia]

Uncensored can't be sold nor distributed in Japan, period. That includes physical and digital.

The uncensored you see by HeyZo and the like is shot in Japan, uploaded or shipped physically out of the country, and then sold. That uploading/shipping step is a gray area of course, but the companies are risking it. VPNs and discrete packaging work wonders.

 

[Jean-luc]

Let me share with you my two cents worth of knowledge about the JAV industry.
As already mentioned above ALL JAV for sale and distribution inside Japan is censored. Whether Blue-ray, DVD or any other digital medium, there will be pixelation and even the degree of pixelation will vary from one studio to another.

Internet based JAV studios are almost entirely uncensored. This is because the Parent Production company making and distributing the material is legally registered and based outside of Japanese jurisdiction. The biggest one I know of is DRP or Dream Room Productions who are based in LA and market and distribute for Heyzo, Pacopacomama, 1pondo.tv, Caribbeancom.com amongst many others. Although these are Japanese studios, they use DRP to manage Internet copyright infringement and distribute to the market place.

You will never (legally) see any DRP videos,DVDs or Blue-rays discs for rental or sale inside Japan unless they have been modified by Japanese censors.
However, many of the 'Japanese' studios mentioned above are actually American entities which do not have to comply with Japanese censorship laws. I will include a link below to their website (please click on the English translation).

http://www.dream-room.net/company/

'Tokyo Hot' is managed in exactly the same way. As mentioned above the 18 U.S.C section 2257 filing is held in Cologne but the legal ownership of the studio is based in San Francisco, USA.

In a nutshell, uncensored JAV is exclusively an ONLINE business but that is not to say that material cannot be copied onto physical digital media and smuggled into Japan illegally. I'm pretty sure this kind of activity is already going on.

 

[Supmop]

I don't know JAV actress that only did uncenssored, maybe they using different name for censsored JAV

and for the question : why some AV actresses don,t do uncensored ? I guess becaused they don't want to take risk working for illegal, or they don't find suitable payment

 

[Inertia]

The reason some don't do uncensored is because the big payday for revealing themselves uncensored may diminish their 'value' for future pay for censored movies.

This is why actresses usually will do uncensored when they are planning on retiring from the industry all-together.

Of course there are exceptions. Hibiki Otsuki is the most interesting since she did uncensored very early on in her career before moving back full-time into censored.

 

[needs more loli]

How does doing uncensored diminish their value?

 

[Inertia]

Because fans now know what their pussies look like. It's always been a mystery until then.

Notice Hitomi who has been doing a lot of work with Scoreland only does shoots that keep her feminine parts hidden.

 

[Supmop]

The reason some don't do uncensored is because the big payday for revealing themselves uncensored may diminish their 'value' for future pay for censored movies.

This is why actresses usually will do uncensored when they are planning on retiring from the industry all-together.

Of course there are exceptions. Hibiki Otsuki is the most interesting since she did uncensored very early on in her career before moving back full-time into censored.

from Hibiki Otsuki I noticed "join product" between uncenssored and big name censsored studio