I'm not sure you're understanding my argument, and things like this:
These aren't valid rebuttals. That last quote isn't even coherent. If you think I'm wrong, that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But if you want to argue against anything I've said, you're going to have to explain your side a lot better than this. Tell me WHY my position is wrong.
Simply saying "no" or "I don't like it" is not a valid argument.
I didn't say your side of the argument is wrong, there is no right and wrong here imo. I do want to clairfy my position or my last statement. I'll be direct then because my statement was unclear. We all know U-15 means idols under the age of 15 right? If you can see on the forum, there are two threads bumped right now being labelled as [BOY] yet 99% of threads on that section of the forum is just for straight people which are girls. You can easily see alot of controversy and alot of people arguing against it in those threads. The original posters of those threads said a similar excuse as you, he said, who are we to judge because there are alot of videos of idols that are underage, therefore is the same thing.
My whole point of my arguement is it's not the same thing at all, one is targetted for straight people, the other one is targetted for homosexuals and shouldn't be lumped as the same thing or the same preference or appeal. Like you said alot of us can't choose our sexuality, however those who are homosexuals, shouldn't say their material is the same as ours in any way shape and form. It's not only about who it appeals to or how few, I honestly would say you shouldn't mention the word fetish because it's not the same thing just because there are less homosexuals on the board, it's now the same classification as straight people who find fetishes appealling which are the minority. I'm just say those supporting homosexual sexual material on the forum is using excuses like it's also underage too, who are you to judge, it's the same thing, or fetishes are equally unappealing therefore it's the same classification. Which is like trying to find a pattern that really isn't the same like trying to put together a puzzle with two pieces that doesn't even remotely fit from another set of puzzles and saying it does. If you don't think there is a different between material targetted at straight people and homosexuals and just throw the word fetish around, I don't know what to tell you.
My only point is it's not the same thing, these [BOY] videos on that section of the forum isn't exactly targetted at straight people, rather homosexuals will download it instead. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, i'm just saying it's homosexual material and now it's suggested we should go all out and give a whole gay section on the forums with more than just idols, now you want javs with two males. Looking at the picture of the site, it's a girl anime picture on there. If you don't understand my points the difference of gender or homosexual, or don't acknowledge that there is a difference just because they are both idols or jav, I don't know what to tell you. Right now the votes are quite close, I ask those with my opinions to vote against it. It seems the more I oppose it, the more others will vote for it. Being really direct, maybe you didn't realise it, alot of straight people finds homosexual material more repulsive than any fetish out there, we have to tolerate it and say that's their business. I'm sure alot more in the world will find U-15 to be more disgusting than fetishes of course. I say gender divides the material, not who it appeals to since 97% of the board appeals to straight people (just an estimate), it's not the same as a fetish at all. It's not about appeal, it's about gender and who it's targetted to. Now we have to acknowledge such material exist and give homosexuals the same rights as straight people.
I don't mind if it's kept at another section of the forum and not a subforum in the jav or U-15 section. I wouldn't want to see under the JAV subforums, fetishes, uncensored, then gay. Or U-15 subforum as IV torrents, then next to it boys. It would make alot of straight people unconfortable and disgusted. Of course no offense, that's how I feel about the subject, feel free to tell me why my opinion is wrong about that and why I shouldn't be unconfortable or disgusted. I have no problems with the material targetted at straight people and don't find that disgusting at all on any level. Maybe I shouldn't be arguing against homosexual material on the forum, metaphorically the u.s tried to argue against a similar topic as gay marriage, it only gave awareness to homosexuals and they legalised gay marriage afterwards. I don't want to do anything remotely similar on the board. Right now there are only a few gay threads and I can tolerate that, if there was a gay subsection or forum section, what is to stop that from having a ton more gay material posted on the board? Which would make the intergrity of the board questionable. Sorry for writing so much.
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