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Me too. But if anime has taught me anything its that harem is very popular in Japan.

This.

I don't get it at all, especially since due to the overwhelming nature of it all meaning there's very little ability for the actresses to really put on any sort of performance. Oh well, Japan I guess - I'll take the good and the bad, haha.
 

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I wonder if anyone knows the criteria for the placings. Do sale numbers count?

The awards were given out at the Japan Adult Expo which just ended hours ago I believe. One of the winners look like a boss character from an arcade game lol
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ZUKO have speciality in big orgy and reverse gangbang theme,...

do you see other AV beside orgy / reverse gangbang theme that better and should get in the top 5 ?

ZUKO not only is a series for orgy/harem vids, but they consistently make good vids of them. The directors/producers put in efforts and techniques that, e.g. give a good look at 1-on-1 actions during group sex scenes. Also some vids develop excellent seduction and foreplay scenes e.g. see how each "innocent" girls were gradually tricked into joining an orgy.

As for worthy winner, I already gave a positive review for 123 (see early in thread). I think it's worthy of top three. The girls are hot but more importantly the guys were horny and girls hit that perfect balance between willing and coy.

In general, the AVOP didn't pan out the way I hoped, most of the vids didn't even tempt me enough to torrent them, so how could I pick winners? I appreciate others who also wrote some reviews to share, but the whole event turned out to be a bit of a dud. My vote for tops are:

117 for #1 (the outbreak of real tears also the whole "hunting" thing worked and also the special occasion + grandiose )
123 for #2 (just overall a good vid)
119 for #3??? (it lost a lot of points for a few issues) tonight I will go home to watch 107 and I picked out another cover that I will give a try. May be knock 119 off top 3...

there's very little ability for the actresses to really put on any sort of performance. Oh well, Japan I guess - I'll take the good and the bad, haha.

Well it's true a lot of harem/orgy vids suffer from that problem and others. But sometimes they get something right, then it's really special. Because almost anyone could get lucky with a hot woman, even if it may cost a bit of money. And now a days, it's not even that hard to experience the more kinky stuffs, S&M dress-up, 3P, anal etc. But a good orgy, that's beyond most people's realm of possibility. So I particularly pay attention to those.
 
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ZUKO not only is a series for orgy/harem vids, but they consistently make good vids of them. The directors/producers put in efforts and techniques that, e.g. give a good look at 1-on-1 actions during group sex scenes. Also some vids develop excellent seduction and foreplay scenes e.g. see how each "innocent" girls were gradually tricked into joining an orgy.

As for worthy winner, I already gave a positive review for 123 (see early in thread). I think it's worthy of top three. The girls are hot but more importantly the guys were horny and girls hit that perfect balance between willing and coy.

In general, the AVOP didn't pan out the way I hoped, most of the vids didn't even tempt me enough to torrent them, so how could I pick winners? I appreciate others who also wrote some reviews to share, but the whole event turned out to be a bit of a dud. My vote for tops are:

117 for #1 (the outbreak of real tears also the whole "hunting" thing worked and also the special occasion + grandiose )
123 for #2 (just overall a good vid)
119 for #3??? (it lost a lot of points for a few issues) tonight I will go home to watch 107 and I picked out another cover that I will give a try. May be knock 119 off top 3...

yes you're right, and thats why I called their speciality, I mean they're great in this genre, I collect most of Zukkon Bakkon's movies

so you dislike 119 ? most of the vids didn't even tempt me enough too, but for me I think the top 5 is fair, except for number 4 it should change by 140 or 113

Well it's true a lot of harem/orgy vids suffer from that problem and others. But sometimes they get something right, then it's really special. Because almost anyone could get lucky with a hot woman, even if it may cost a bit of money. And now a days, it's not even that hard to experience the more kinky stuffs, S&M dress-up, 3P, anal etc. But a good orgy, that's beyond most people's realm of possibility. So I particularly pay attention to those.

I totally agree with the text that I bold, we have the same reason ;)
 

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My vote for tops are:
117 for #1 (the outbreak of real tears also the whole "hunting" thing worked and also the special occasion + grandiose )
123 for #2 (just overall a good vid)
119 for #3??? (it lost a lot of points for a few issues) tonight I will go home to watch 107 and I picked out another cover that I will give a try. May be knock 119 off top 3...

So having gone over 107 (ZUKO's entry to AVOP)... I'd say... it's one of the better vids from ZUKO, but it probably can't knock off 119. It comes to a weird situation. Which is a better porn film? Then 107 is better than 119 (Moodyz crazy all-star fest). But which one is an award winner in AVOP? Then... is 107 really outstanding among the ZUKO series? Not particularly, the 8 women are good looking enough. And the big plus over 127 (the 7 sisters one) is that they are distinguishable from each other. Firstly Ayumi is the quintessential slutty mom, couple girls are the standard largish tits hotties, one (AIKA?) is a GAL with faked tan and dyed blonde, the two little sisters can probably satisfy the loli fans (or not?) and the "wife" in the story is distinguishable for being distinctively unattractive. It's a good harem with a mix of orgy and one-on-one. Nice variety in terms of face and body type (what's the point of multi-girls if all of them look and sound and fuck the same way?). But it's a POV film, and not dicing any words, POV is L.A.M.E. And it's one of the "baby-making" genre that's completely taken over ZUKO, which is sad. And I'd appreciate a bit more personality and sex style to go with the looks of each girl. (Mom should be more cougar, GAL should be more cock-hungry in a self-absorbed way, the loli could be more "innocent" etc) And a HUGE minus is the wife, I believe she's Kamihata Ichika 神波多一花, is there ever a woman who have no reason to have an AV career that's her. Like, I'm not a big fan of certain girls (AIKA being one), but I fully understand there's a market for her look or some other quality (A-cup, loli, fat chick etc), but what's the market/genre for Kamihata Ichika, I don't get it! And she's pretty active in AV even, I just managed to fail to see her in any vid until now.

Anyway... back to 119, with 18 girls, many of them S-class, for a 4-hour vid, probably costed 10 million yens in production... kind of like.... hmm despite somehow it's not a great porn, you still have to say it has an edge over 107 in AVOP award.

And then... I really have to thank @Supmop for the challenge when I already gave up on AVOP 2015, I went back to go over the covers again in search of alternative winners... and spotted 164. Rope bondage with a couple A-class (perhaps not quite S-class) names, and intriguing "original work" (原作) only problem was the photo work on the cover was rather unflattering. Turns out it's quite a great rope bondage vid, probably the best rope bondage vid I've ever seen. I've always like the idea of rope bondage but never seen a satisfactory vid. Here everything worked out, the girls are fine looking (not super busty but supple D- or E- cups) they look good in kimono and flight attendant uniform, the rope work isn't over elaborate yet expertly, the men wear a very respectable exterior and creepy sick sadist inside. The teasing (especially teasing the tits) was well done and well-filmed, along with plenty of honest fucking of the mouth and pussy, and quite good cumshots. The final scene has some nice teasing of the anus and a nice big shot of enema. Even the lighting was perfect. Normally these vids need to be dimly lit for the atmosphere but usually it ends up not able to see anything and I tend to fall asleep.

The three ladies of 164 かすみ果穂, 大槻ひびき, 阿部乃みく ALL appeared in 107 as well. I believe they are the two hotties and one of the lolis in 107. But for now I can't identify the actress names in both 107 and 164. Help is deeply appreciated:

So final point is: the vid was so good I had to look up the "original work" aspect. Turns out the original was a novel by the late Oniroku Dan (团鬼六) and I learn that he's the famous S&M writer behind the cult film series Flower and Snake. From the huge number of Attacker trailers at the end of 164, I notice quite a few AV had been made of his novel. Maybe worth a look.

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I'm going to make some guess:

Miku Abeno (阿部乃みく) is the short hair sadist girl in 164 (not on that cover), she's the middle loli girl in the bottom row of 107 cover.

Hibiki Ohtsuki (大槻ひびき)is the flight attendant in 164 (right on cover), but I can't figure her out in 107 cover, perhaps middle in the middle row?

Kasumi Kaho (かすみ果穂) is the kimono lady (left on cover) also I can't figure out which one is she in 107, perhaps on the right in the middle row?

That leaves :
神波多一花: the "wife“, left, top row
篠田あゆみ:the mother-in-law (Ayumi Shinoda), right top row
AIKA: the GAL (left, middle row)
乙葉ななせ: the other loli (left, bottom row)??
北川エリカ: the last hottie (right, bottom row)??
 

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And a HUGE minus is the wife, I believe she's Kamihata Ichika 神波多一花, is there ever a woman who have no reason to have an AV career that's her. Like, I'm not a big fan of certain girls (AIKA being one), but I fully understand there's a market for her look or some other quality (A-cup, loli, fat chick etc), but what's the market/genre for Kamihata Ichika, I don't get it! And she's pretty active in AV even, I just managed to fail to see her in any vid until now.

first I want to say in JAV its oftenly confusing between orgy vs gangbang & reverse gangbang, those 3 are different one to each other, but I see JAV people like to use : orgy / promiscuity

Ichika Kamihata has their own market, people who like tall & slim girl, I don't like her but I don't dislike her too, I just won't watch her if she not joined by my favorite actresses

Anyway... back to 119, with 18 girls, many of them S-class, for a 4-hour vid, probably costed 10 million yens in production... kind of like.... hmm despite somehow it's not a great porn, you still have to say it has an edge over 107 in AVOP award.

as for me, for this year AV Open any other positions are debatable except for 119, that one is the real champion because other contenders not worthy enough, I'm dissapointed other studio dont try to compete with big orgy all stars cast too

And then... I really have to thank @Supmop for the challenge when I already gave up on AVOP 2015, I went back to go over the covers again in search of alternative winners... and spotted 164. Rope bondage with a couple A-class (perhaps not quite S-class) names, and intriguing "original work" (原作) only problem was the photo work on the cover was rather unflattering. Turns out it's quite a great rope bondage vid, probably the best rope bondage vid I've ever seen. I've always like the idea of rope bondage but never seen a satisfactory vid. Here everything worked out, the girls are fine looking (not super busty but supple D- or E- cups) they look good in kimono and flight attendant uniform, the rope work isn't over elaborate yet expertly, the men wear a very respectable exterior and creepy sick sadist inside. The teasing (especially teasing the tits) was well done and well-filmed, along with plenty of honest fucking of the mouth and pussy, and quite good cumshots. The final scene has some nice teasing of the anus and a nice big shot of enema. Even the lighting was perfect. Normally these vids need to be dimly lit for the atmosphere but usually it ends up not able to see anything and I tend to fall asleep.

so you choose the 164 as your champion ?

The three ladies of 164 かすみ果穂, 大槻ひびき, 阿部乃みく ALL appeared in 107 as well. I believe they are the two hotties and one of the lolis in 107. But for now I can't identify the actress names in both 107 and 164. Help is deeply appreciated:

Kaho Kasumi
Hibiki Otsuki
Miku Abeno

the first two are veteran and famous in JAV, Hibiki has worked for most of the studios, I like her, one of the best ... but she doesn't win anything yet
 

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I'm going to make some guess:

Miku Abeno (阿部乃みく) is the short hair sadist girl in 164 (not on that cover), she's the middle loli girl in the bottom row of 107 cover.

Hibiki Ohtsuki (大槻ひびき)is the flight attendant in 164 (right on cover), but I can't figure her out in 107 cover, perhaps middle in the middle row?

Kasumi Kaho (かすみ果穂) is the kimono lady (left on cover) also I can't figure out which one is she in 107, perhaps on the right in the middle row?

That leaves :
神波多一花: the "wife“, left, top row
篠田あゆみ:the mother-in-law (Ayumi Shinoda), right top row
AIKA: the GAL (left, middle row)
乙葉ななせ: the other loli (left, bottom row)??
北川エリカ: the last hottie (right, bottom row)??

yes thats Miku Abeno ;)

top row : Ichika Kamihata, Ayumi Shinoda
the middle row from left to right are : Aika, Kaho Kasumi, Hibiki Otsuki
bottom row : Nanase Otoha, Miku Abeno, Yuria Sonoda aka Erika Kitagawa
 

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@Restrepo wants to re-litigate the Aika case:
I just watched it. Dunno how it hit you but I found it pretty sad.
Has anyone who speaks Japanese translated some or all of what she's saying? I'd like to know

So... let's review the evidence:

AVOP-117 "100 Men Creampie 2015 Absolute Impregnation School"
49:50 Aika was caught, and began sucking the guy
52:10 Aika striped bottomless and let the guy fuck her
53:40 after a skip, Aika's mood took a dive, began crying

And my previous write-up (follow the link to the original post)
There are extras in yellow t-shirts (with a big word "Guardian Team") who are protecting the idols, and there are other who wear purple t-shirts (with big word "Impregnation Team") who ...
...she use it to cover her mouth and broke down into sobbing. She was genuinely crying. Everyone, even the camera man seems to be affected by her unexpected reaction.

And my previous judgement:
My vote for tops are:
117 for #1 (the outbreak of real tears also the whole "hunting" thing worked and also the special occasion + grandiose )
123 for #2 (just overall a good vid)
119 for #3??? (it lost a lot of points for a few issues) tonight I will go home to watch 107 ...

(well later I might have changed my mind and put 164 ahead of 117)

Anyway last year I was pretty positive about 117, you have to go back to read why I pick the vid that @Restrepo found "pretty sad". The official AVOP awarded 117 the #3 spot overall.

There's actually a lot of on-screen text in the vid, I kept thinking to transcribe it (pretty painful since I still don't know hiragana and katakana by heart) and have Google translate have a go. Figuring out the spoken words is more difficult. Japanese is hard already, now they are running and playing a game (literally in heat), I'm sure the speech is very blurred and slangy. But the text might tell us something. How she went from willing (if not eager) player, to displeased (caught) but still positive spirited, to suddenly, after the guy already finished and pulled out his penis, to take a dive and break down. And then... after cutting away to follow other idols (mainly Uehara) Aika end up back in the game and finish the game strong (ie. fucked and sucked her way thru the day and evening).
 
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Hmm.

Well, I think it's worth thinking about their actual mental state.

I assume that most women that get involved in porn are attracted to both the "easy" money and - beyond that - as people have always just been beyond comfortable with their sexuality - they like expressing themselves, being watched, and pursuing physical ecstasy in an open setting.

Think of whatever career you've truly enjoyed. I was, for a brief time, a music photographer. Going to be an odd comparison, but bear (bare?) with me. I got into the gig via a deep love of music - I just wanted a chance to be close to the art, to be involved in some way. I didn't care about personal glory / getting "the" shot, etc. I was happy to share with other photogs, just wanted to be enjoy the music scene. I assumed all others would feel the same, and finding out the majority of people in the business were basically self-obsessed and purely competitive was pretty crushing.

So, assuming that fucking is something that Aika truly enjoys - which she certainly seems to, via her sassy, on-top-of-it attitude, the impression I got is she had a moment of realization during that clip.

It went from her feeling like they were all just partners in a free, empowered sexual adventure to realizing she was just letting a bunch of guys fuck her who didn't care who she was. I mean she could have been anyone, to that man during the scene in which she cries, she was just an object with a hole his dick could go in.

This is obvious to most who watch porn, I presume, it's hard for me to express what I mean, but I imagine for her in that moment it was crushing and deeply demeaning and sad. She is just laying there, completely uninvolved in what's going on and he's just humping away as she realizes that's what's really happening. Quite sad.

Hence my finding the video so depressing. I've actually been unable to enjoy a porn video since, have been entirely picture based the past few days. My mind's been doing the work lol.

I also think it's worth noting that we can't be sure what the real sequence of events was, they could easily have filmed the last sequence first, and so on.
 
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