AV Open 2016

[Supmop]

Do you really think so though? Which countries didn't have reliable internet that were actually purchasing legit copies of JAV? If anything I would be they were buying bootleg versions I know I have seen some while traveling.

Almost all of the JAV industry is in Japan and it certainly had piracy, and the speed back then. I just don't think it is a good argument, people still purchase JAV. The difference they are seeing in income imo, is from the fact that they were dominant at the emergence/booming of a market and now they have more competition so their market share is not as strong as it once was. Just simple supply and demand, and unaffected by piracy (since piracy is mostly from people who would not purchase, and the loss of purchases is likely offset by exposure leading to new customers). The same claims have been made by other entertainment industries. It is difficult to prove, and there certainly doesn't seem to be the creative crises they predicted, talent is still getting paid and still draws people in every entertainment industry including adult (JAV especially).

around the world

not only in JAV but mainstream movies and musics, while you traveling you did not notice a lot of legit stores out of bussiness ?

disagree with what I bold, piracy does affected and not difficult to prove, sorry to say this but people who said industry are unaffected by piracy usually are selfish hypocrite who won't accept the fact that piracy is wrong and don't care its can make other people close their bussiness, as long its not them that loosing profits

 

[periph]

we have the same question

I'm also curious who is she ?

hope they only censsored her face in the pictures, would be very disturbing if I can't see her face in the video

Her face is censored in the sample video as well. I'm just wondering if it's a publicity stunt for her to be a mystery until the vid comes out or if it is relevant to the video's concept or maybe some kind of contract issue.

 

[ding73ding]

Seems like a big change from 2015. I generally agree many of these seem kinda off. Not the most exciting.

OTOH, I kind of agree JAV has gotten too predictable and "good" in "not great" way. For past 1-2 years I felt there were more and more good (or mediocre) vids but not a single great one. Yeah of course "great" vids by definition are rare. But I'd hope for at least a great vid per any 12 months period? So is it good to break the good and hope that great will arise out of the ashes. Or is it bad because breaking the not great and likely only worse will come out of it. Or perhaps we are reading way too much into one (of several) industry-organized competition/promotion.

There's no clear proof that AVOP is particularly official or authoritative, even last year someone suggested some studio held back their best stuffs for AVOP. If you take that view, perhaps there's a story that commercial releasing over 50 vids on one single day is absolutely stupid, and a lot of studios are saying screw this to AVOP. And AVOP tweaked the competition format and categories, it could be that AVOP organizers messed things up this year.

A lot of the comment here against (?) the current gen of idols and/or studios... well I go back to my standard position, the party that has the greatest responsibility for a product is the Customer. I watch a lot of JAV but I feel more and more I can't identify with the stereotypical AV Customers: herbivore, cherryboy, fear/hate women (aka misogynists), Oedipus complex otaku dysfunctional LOSERS. This year AVOP may be disappointing on the surface, but is there some kind of disturbance in the force? Who knows?

About My Dearest and PlayNo1, those are very interesting and entertaining sources for sure, but I can't help but feel that some of it is hot air, especially hot air from the industry itself.

As usual @Supmop picked out all the multi-girls vids... For me, 238 looks (possibly) interesting if the competition angle is played well. 254 looks great with 3 busty ladies (who, happily, have quite different breast types) in a Taimanin title, hopefully the drama, fighting and special effects (and production values) live up to expectation. If ZIZ is smart, they might use AVOP to launch their live action hentai line from the very fringe to center stage of AV?

Finally: 279: it doesn't look promising, but the Asian erotic horror has a lot of potentials, with a recent release on Japanese female ghost and this Chinese one. Hopefully someone will get it right and make a hit before it fizzles out. BTW I do believe "Chinese vampire" is a poor translation/explanation. A better word might be Chinese zombie or undead. There are significant difference between these monster/beings than the Western vampire or zombies, the "Chinese zombies" don't mindlessly kill/infect every living person they encounter and they are much easier to kill or simply neutralize. I think it's much easier to make a successful erotic horror with Chinese and Japanese ghost/demons/spirits or yokais than with Judo-Christian ones who are all kind of associated with Satan. Sure would beat tentacle porn.

 

[Supmop]

Her face is censored in the sample video as well. I'm just wondering if it's a publicity stunt for her to be a mystery until the vid comes out or if it is relevant to the video's concept or maybe some kind of contract issue.

usually the mystery actress wearing mask, not pixelated her face, if its the video concept I think its weird and ruined the movie

make me wonder like you said, if it some kind of contract issue

 

[Supmop]

Seems like a big change from 2015. I generally agree many of these seem kinda off. Not the most exciting.

OTOH, I kind of agree JAV has gotten too predictable and "good" in "not great" way. For past 1-2 years I felt there were more and more good (or mediocre) vids but not a single great one. Yeah of course "great" vids by definition are rare. But I'd hope for at least a great vid per any 12 months period? So is it good to break the good and hope that great will arise out of the ashes. Or is it bad because breaking the not great and likely only worse will come out of it. Or perhaps we are reading way too much into one (of several) industry-organized competition/promotion.

There's no clear proof that AVOP is particularly official or authoritative, even last year someone suggested some studio held back their best stuffs for AVOP. If you take that view, perhaps there's a story that commercial releasing over 50 vids on one single day is absolutely stupid, and a lot of studios are saying screw this to AVOP. And AVOP tweaked the competition format and categories, it could be that AVOP organizers messed things up this year.

A lot of the comment here against (?) the current gen of idols and/or studios... well I go back to my standard position, the party that has the greatest responsibility for a product is the Customer. I watch a lot of JAV but I feel more and more I can't identify with the stereotypical AV Customers: herbivore, cherryboy, fear/hate women (aka misogynists), Oedipus complex otaku dysfunctional LOSERS. This year AVOP may be disappointing on the surface, but is there some kind of disturbance in the force? Who knows?

About My Dearest and PlayNo1, those are very interesting and entertaining sources for sure, but I can't help but feel that some of it is hot air, especially hot air from the industry itself.

As usual @Supmop picked out all the multi-girls vids... For me, 238 looks (possibly) interesting if the competition angle is played well. 254 looks great with 3 busty ladies (who, happily, have quite different breast types) in a Taimanin title, hopefully the drama, fighting and special effects (and production values) live up to expectation. If ZIZ is smart, they might use AVOP to launch their live action hentai line from the very fringe to center stage of AV?

good comment

which movies that you think have the chance to win ?

Finally: 279: it doesn't look promising, but the Asian erotic horror has a lot of potentials, with a recent release on Japanese female ghost and this Chinese one. Hopefully someone will get it right and make a hit before it fizzles out. BTW I do believe "Chinese vampire" is a poor translation/explanation. A better word might be Chinese zombie or undead. There are significant difference between these monster/beings than the Western vampire or zombies, the "Chinese zombies" don't mindlessly kill/infect every living person they encounter and they are much easier to kill or simply neutralize. I think it's much easier to make a successful erotic horror with Chinese and Japanese ghost/demons/spirits or yokais than with Judo-Christian ones who are all kind of associated with Satan. Sure would beat tentacle porn.

you know a lot about chinese ghost stories

yes I think chinese undead are more suitable, but chinese vampire are more well known name around fans, its also called jiangshi

lets hope JAV makers will make more chinese and japanese ghost / spirit / demon theme, I would love to watch them

HongKong has made a lot erotic ghost movies, so I think Japanese can make a lot of AV with ghost / demon / yokai theme. give Hibiki Otsuki, Maya Kawamura, Aika, Maki Hojo role as seductive demon, I'm sure would beat tentacle porn

 

[paparoach408]

I disagree, I don't think you need giant studios to produce quality JAV, saying some were more creative than others is just pointless imo because they were like Hollywood studios. Sure they make some good movies, but they spend a lot of time playing it safe and ripping eachother off. I don't remember them being nearly as daring as the new labels I follow. Entrepreneurial spirit is what drives real innovation and the old guard is often in the way of this.

Even a few years ago those big studios had such power in the industry they crowded out others, I saw very few new labels compared to now and a lot of them burned out quickly. As the big ones have declined you have seen new labels and studios come in and make more interesting porn with some of the top talent that would in years past have been pretty much only doing one studio until their initial big contract was up, then maybe if they were big stars do the other "big ones".

The studio boss is complaining about them doing "lesser porn" for these other studios because in the past in demand actresses would rarely consider working for them. They had a monopoly on talent, and now they don't and there is surprise, surprise more content and more talent with more variety in labels.

The past was boring, I mean at the time it was great, but the current situation is better for me at least and I look forward to the future.

You need balance, you need indie companies pushing the ones at the top to cause them to produce better content, but if SOD went away then there'd be nobody that can push the Hokuto Corporation(Who own almost everything) to produce better content.

Question what new studios have you seen that aren't Hokuto owned?

SOD never had the monopoly on talent, it was Always S1S1 Max-A/Alice with the monopoly. they debuted girls and kept there homegrown talent around, but never had a monopoly.

I don't have an issue with more variety, I have an issue with girls today coming in with the superstar/diva attitude who can't perform

 

[theydonotwantto]

Anyone notice that website of Sadist Village is down for a few weeks now? http://www.sadistic-v.com/index.html

Are they under investigation or something?

 

[Supmop]

You need balance, you need indie companies pushing the ones at the top to cause them to produce better content, but if SOD went away then there'd be nobody that can push the Hokuto Corporation(Who own almost everything) to produce better content.

JAV industry can't be better without those big studios, workers and us still need them

I don't have an issue with more variety, I have an issue with girls today coming in with the superstar/diva attitude who can't perform

agree

 

[Supmop]

Anyone notice that website of Sadist Village is down for a few weeks now? http://www.sadistic-v.com/index.html

Are they under investigation or something?

their contents in dmm and JAV Library still ok, I don't think its related to investigation

lets wait for their next update

 

[ding73ding]

which movies that you think have the chance to win ?

Now I had more time to go over a few trailers... actually quite a few are pretty promising. Only disappointing in the top star department.

246 looks really quite good. It's not her first vid that focus on boob-play, but amazingly, I never get tired of big boobs.
254 Taimanin is perhaps my top pick for the whole competition. ZIZ's recent vids have not held up their early standard, but this vid could be their best ever.
212 Aika + Koharu Suzuki looks good too. BTW is Koharu's tits fake? sorry it's OT.

Some of the slut gang vids are pretty promising too. 289 is especially worth a look. A cruise ship tour, sure one-up the bus tour theme.

 

[Supmop]

Now I had more time to go over a few trailers... actually quite a few are pretty promising. Only disappointing in the top star department.

agree

I think this year AV Open is lack of top star orgy video

246 looks really quite good. It's not her first vid that focus on boob-play, but amazingly, I never get tired of big boobs.
254 Taimanin is perhaps my top pick for the whole competition. ZIZ's recent vids have not held up their early standard, but this vid could be their best ever.
212 Aika + Koharu Suzuki looks good too. BTW is Koharu's tits fake? sorry it's OT.

agree 254 currently is ZIZ's best video, hope they will make more like this, but I doubt they will make videos like that regulary

212 is good too, I'm not sure but I think her boobs is natural, but its look too perfect right ?

Some of the slut gang vids are pretty promising too. 289 is especially worth a look. A cruise ship tour, sure one-up the bus tour theme.

yes 289 look hot, but Prestige did not put their best girls to that movie

 

[paparoach408]

I don't think there's really much competition on who's winning this year, it's 100% going to moodyz


she's just way too popular to not win this, and especially with a moodyz backing instead of a Muteki one

 

[Supmop]

I don't think there's really much competition on who's winning this year, it's 100% going to moodyz
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she's just way too popular to not win this, and especially with a moodyz backing instead of a Muteki one

lets find out what will win this year solo video or orgy video again

not like last year when I'm very sure Moodyz's AVOP-119 will win, now I'm not very sure kira kira's AVOP-213 can win

 

[ding73ding]

Ahh you know

Spoiler

I actually live under a rook.

WHO IS THIS way too popular CHICK??? Ahhh Miss Shoko Takahashi, is it? 高橋しょう子 ... Her wiki page is kinda slim. Her filmography stands at ONE (unless I'm missing something, rock, you know...)

I do hope it's that amazing. If I'm reading the white text on the bottom right corner correctly, the vid will be a sex-with-swimsuit-on for the entire duration of the vid. So that's a few points off the top already, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think there's really much competition on who's winning this year, it's 100% going to moodyz

she's just way too popular to not win this, and especially with a moodyz backing instead of a Muteki one

 

[paparoach408]

Ahh you know

Spoiler

I actually live under a rook.

WHO IS THIS way too popular CHICK??? Ahhh Miss Shoko Takahashi, is it? 高橋しょう子 ... Her wiki page is kinda slim. Her filmography stands at ONE (unless I'm missing something, rock, you know...)

I do hope it's that amazing. If I'm reading the white text on the bottom right corner correctly, the vid will be a sex-with-swimsuit-on for the entire duration of the vid. So that's a few points off the top already, as far as I'm concerned.

She's a famous Gravure Idol, turned JAV idol and Rock "star" who had a sex scandal some months ago. She debuted with Muteki

 

[Supmop]

She's a famous Gravure Idol, turned JAV idol and Rock "star" who had a sex scandal some months ago. She debuted with Muteki

that sex scandal have some videos that leaked to public ?

 

[vietbub]

She's a famous Gravure Idol, turned JAV idol and Rock "star" who had a sex scandal some months ago. She debuted with Muteki

I never understood Japanese people's reaction to "sex scandals" gravure models and idols (more so for gravure). Its an open secret that there are casting couches and they're really common so when it gets "revealed" I dont understand why they're shocked and completely shun them aka career ender.

An analogy I'd use would be how Bruno Mars was caught using cocaine. No one care because either they knew it or expected it.

 

[Supmop]

I never understood Japanese people's reaction to "sex scandals" gravure models and idols (more so for gravure). Its an open secret that there are casting couches and they're really common so when it gets "revealed" I dont understand why they're shocked and completely shun them aka career ender.

An analogy I'd use would be how Bruno Mars was caught using cocaine. No one care because either they knew it or expected it.

because eastern culture ?

not only in japan, in most asian countries people are like that when scandal leaked to public, remember how HongKong peoples shocked too when Edison Chen's sex pictures leaked, a lot of people shocked how horny and bitchy Cecilia Cheung and other female celebrities in those pictures, maybe they tought those females still virgin

 

[vietbub]

because eastern culture ?

not only in japan, in most asian countries people are like that when scandal leaked to public, remember how HongKong peoples shocked too when Edison Chen's sex pictures leaked, a lot of people shocked how horny and bitchy Cecilia Cheung and other female celebrities in those pictures, maybe they tought those females still virgin

In Edison Chen's case I think people were more shocked by the fact that there were pictures then anything else.

 

[Supmop]

finally Fitch updated AVOP-207 in their official website, and I get different cover picture, this time all the girls face are not censsored

the previous picture :


new uncenssored picture :


the casts : Hana Haruna, Harua Narumiya, An Sasakura, Chitose Saegusa