Gripe of the month

[mrflexog]

It's so funny your first sentence (I never said that, btw) and then reading the countries you gave us as examples.

What's so funny about the countries I gave as examples?

 

[headcrusher]

What's so funny about the countries I gave as examples?

After saying that I thought you were about to name some south-american or african countries, but no, you only got to name countries that even share border and an english colony, like they don't share culture and consume the same porn.

 

[mrflexog]

After saying that I thought you were about to name some south-american or african countries, but no, you only got to name countries that even share border and an english colony, like they don't share culture and consume the same porn.

Obviously you didn't get the point of that was to list CLOSELY related countries to highlight the fact that despite having shared cultrual roots, they have different ideas about sex. Try saying westerners think vibrators aren't manly to a fucking german.
I'm not even saying that the term "the west" can't be used but when you use so broadly as to say "the wests thinks this about vibrators" it just becomes riddiculous.
>EASTERN PEOPLE BE LIKE...
>WESTERN PEOPLE BE LIKE...
It's an over simplification and just come off as pseudo intellectual. The most poorly disguised pseudo intellectualism imaginable.

 

[Taako]

My take on this is that western audience wants to think that the girl actually enjoys it. Probably a cultural thing? Like... western audience can't stand the fact women don't like to get r***ing, while japanese audience actually enjoys watching the women suffer.

Only a really small part of western productions wants to show this kind of reaction from women. You know, facial abuse...

I see your point.
But I agree more with @maelstrom9999, of course this is all friendly

I think @periph point about western liking their porn stars to appear "slutty"(I forget his quote sorry) is the real reason little to no attention to pleasuring women is not drawn-out".

Also, western porn directors feel the need to have quicker filming process and little to zero editing to save money.

Also, also western directors seem to see porn actresses as "throw-aways".

Also, also, also JAV directors seems to see actresses as "investments" that can bring long term income and fame to the studios.

 

[Taako]

Because in the west the need of using external devices to give pleasure to the woman is "not manly". Also JAV is more focused on the woman reaction.

I can somewhat believe this. Not everywhere. But I think some western men don't like using devices on their porn set. Privately I'm sure their ok with it. But on western porn set, it seems being "macho" is the way lol

Also don't forget... Time also plays a part on some sets. I think the time needed is not what most western porn sets are dedicated too imo. Many JAV movies can take hours/even a couple of days to film. Most western porn not going to do that.

 

[Taako]

Two gripes. First is people arguing over big/nice asses vs overrated asses. Over a short duration I've read arguments of people debating whether the following 4 girls had a big/nice ass or not and it's honestly just annoying.
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It seems some people make an arbitrary distiction about what a nice ass is or perhapse they want to flex their know it all-ness by showing how they can differencate a big/nice ass vs one that only looks big/nice. Then like clockwork they conceed to the fact that it looks nice in videos/sets but won't just admit its a nice ass.
Pointing out the flaws in an ass is one thing but just saying it's not nice (even though it looks nice) because X Y Z is just clown behavior.

I don't know... I get your gripe. I don't really gripe about body parts unless its terrible, obvious plastic surgery.
And if a actress or actor gonna get nude, then these gripes or "criticism will come.

Some times it bother me because I want to say its all useless... but then I shut up because I too have made such criticismNOT out of mean, but because its soooooo noticably bad the body part.

I have criticize male actors too, from their fake dicks, inept dicks, bad teeth, and dirty appearance NOT part of the movie lol Yuck


As for big ass vs nice ass. I think what is shown on film/movie can both be real or adverse.
For example, I am subbing a movie which stars Misa Suzumi, Ruka Kanae, and Atomi.

Now everyone knows Misa and Ruka has nice big bottoms. They just do. Atomi has a nice butt too, but not big.
Why was Atomi in this? Contractual. Money. Name recognition. Nothing unusual.

I like Atomi, she's a great actor and performer, but... I'm not subbing her scene.
It's not what I wanted in "big butts lol

In fact, I notice in this film, they had all the actress "pose" to get a nice view of their butts. Not unusual.
Atomi's looked "big" to the eye, because the "poses" and the underwear made to look like thong. b
But even then, she don't have a big butt lol

This happens in porn... so maybe this is where the debate come from??? I don't know.
But ppl need to realize its cultural too. A girls bottom like Atomi might seem "big in her country. It's perfectly fine to me

 

[kessari]

Just downloaded a "decensored" version of PPPE-105 by Ayase Kokoro

A condom creampie? What manner of sorcery is this?

 

[Taako]

A condom creampie? What manner of sorcery is this?

Fr hahaha
Is that your gripe lol
I'm surprise no one has grip about it yet. It could be one for the ages. lol

 

[Taako]

So Gripe Of The Month for May is...
Body Jack porn. Not all of them. The lesbians ones are better. Another woman jumping into a man body to f*** a female is suited better.

But the ones that are men hijack women bodies and... being so weak as to "not fight" off the guys as they protest in the softest voice "no" or "stop" is simply gay porn disguise as body jack

You know the ones where the loser guy becomes a girl... and then spends nearly 2hr in the movie suck d*** and have sex with men... disguise as the woman?

In these movies the people are aware they switch bodies.
The men knows they are in a female body.. they know they are getting hammered by other men.... they know they are sucking ****... They simply know it and don't even try to stop it or switch back.

Since they are virgins or losers, they feel getting hammered men is better than nothing lol Weird

This is nothing against gay people, let me be clear.
The gripe is against this obviously gay storyline. It like a weird need of JAV not being honest for once of its true intentions.

So in this movie the guys just seem to like c**** so much that he just accepts it lol
He doesn't even try to escape.

It's a grip for me. I'm not saying it doesn't have an audience but it's gay porn reimagined imo lol

 

[periph]

So Gripe Of The Month for May is...
Body Jack porn. Not all of them. The lesbians ones are better. Another woman jumping into a man body to f*** a female is suited better.

But the ones that are men hijack women bodies and... being so weak as to "not fight" off the guys as they protest in the softest voice "no" or "stop" is simply gay porn disguise as body jack

...
It's a grip for me. I'm not saying it doesn't have an audience but it's gay porn reimagined imo lol

Agree, these are not a turn on for me. I mean, when you're watching you usually put yourself in the place of the protagonist. So if it's a harem video, it's nice to imagine yourself in the place of the guy receiving so much female attention.

But with the male hijack woman vids, that means you're putting yourself in the place of the woman, getting fucked by dudes. That's a nope. If I like the actress, I might watch but I'll rewrite the plot in my mind.

Now, the other way around, woman into man to fuck females works much better as you said. Actually, futanari (girls grow cocks) fucking females is also super hot, especially when the girls know how to fuck with their fake cock and actually pound her female friends. (most girls with strapons just put it in an wiggle, they don't know how to thrust it). Akari Mitani is the best at fucking with a fake cock. (her trilogy DASD-476, DASD-636, DASD-812 was amazing, wish they kept going with it)

 

[Taako]

Agree, these are not a turn on for me. I mean, when you're watching you usually put yourself in the place of the protagonist. So if it's a harem video, it's nice to imagine yourself in the place of the guy receiving so much female attention.

But with the male hijack woman vids, that means you're putting yourself in the place of the woman, getting fucked by dudes. That's a nope. If I like the actress, I might watch but I'll rewrite the plot in my mind.

Now, the other way around, woman into man to fuck females works much better as you said. Actually, futanari (girls grow cocks) fucking females is also super hot, especially when the girls know how to fuck with their fake cock and actually pound her female friends. (most girls with strapons just put it in an wiggle, they don't know how to thrust it). Akari Mitani is the best at fucking with a fake cock. (her trilogy DASD-476, DASD-636, DASD-812 was amazing, wish they kept going with it)

That is true.
In body jack, like most porn... YOU are the person imagining yourself getting pleasure from the idols.
Body jack with males turning into females is another weird.

Because as I stated, the "men turned female" are usually r*** or forced by other men to give oral sex and other things. This happens for nearly the entire movie imo
And then... that character just seems to accept it and even likes performing sex with the guys. hahaha weird.

I was curious about another, and like the others I couldn't finish lol The other(I can't remember the code) a single father who takes care of his son, decides to become a woman. The son is confuse because his father now looks like a porn star but still is the dad. You guess it, the son have s** with his father/mother through the movie. I couldn't finish.

 

[Vmaloy]

For me that would the lack of activity from Knight Visual, it's been a while they haven't got a really hot actress in their movies, even more it's been for ever since the last pinsaro

 

[ding73ding]

Just downloaded a "decensored" version of PPPE-105 by Ayase Kokoro

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A condom creampie? What manner of sorcery is this?

Fr hahaha
Is that your gripe lol
I'm surprise no one has grip about it yet. It could be one for the ages. lol

Ehh, absolutely it's been griped multiple times and continuously, creampie scenes which turned out to be fully condom-protected. In some cases even the rubber tubing or injector for the "cream" was exposed by the leaked uncensored vids.

In a way it's also disqualified for "gripe of the month" because indeed it's "griped of the ages".

 

[Taako]

Ehh, absolutely it's been griped multiple times and continuously, creampie scenes which turned out to be fully condom-protected. In some cases even the rubber tubing or injector for the "cream" was exposed by the leaked uncensored vids.

The script... a movie I thought for JAV would actually require rubber tubing or injector for the "cum" scenes but not in a "explosive" scenes but it would needs some fake stuff An idea inspired by Nude Adult JAV starring Reiko K.

In a way it's also disqualified for "gripe of the month" because indeed it's "griped of the ages".

hahaha
at this point, even with video evidences, even with some porn stars "implying" it, even in the year 2023....
Some fans, viewers, think cream pies are 100% real.
The gripe of the ages will continue

 

[ding73ding]

That is true.
In body jack, like most porn... YOU are the person imagining yourself getting pleasure from the idols.
Body jack with males turning into females is another weird.

Because as I stated, the "men turned female" are usually r*** or forced by other men to give oral sex and other things. This happens for nearly the entire movie imo
And then... that character just seems to accept it and even likes performing sex with the guys. hahaha weird.

I was curious about another, and like the others I couldn't finish lol The other(I can't remember the code) a single father who takes care of his son, decides to become a woman. The son is confuse because his father now looks like a porn star but still is the dad. You guess it, the son have s** with his father/mother through the movie. I couldn't finish.

YEAaah... it's a hugely uncomfortable/inappropriate genre for many fans, especially in English-fandom. Most of us are acutely penis-phobic.

But for some deep culturally specific reason Japanese really come back to this body-jacking/body-transformation/gender-transformation thing over and over again. I am very curious if there's a literary classic that underpin this. Anyway in ACG culture there's the classic Ranma 1/2 and Your Name (2016) and JAV every few months trusty Rocket will pump out a title of either a JAV idol growing a dick (and keeping her tits and vagina) or a man's mind entering a female (JAV idol)'s body.

There's a definite thang: a fantasy that JAV feed: the viewing fan imagine himself also entering a female body and enjoyed molesting him/herself. So the fan imagines his (male) hands fondling her (female) tits. All on the same person, yes, but the single mind simultaneously experience both sides of the molestation, the hands are the violator, the tits are the violatee. Even more fun: the male hands/eye enjoy the playing and watching of the pussy but in the process the vagina transmit pleasure (finally orgasm) to the same brain. So he's both enjoying the finger-fucking and the finger-fucked. Yes it's quite a mindfuck.

In India and China, Buddhist Guanying(觀音)/Avalokitasvara is famously male or female at will. But s/he is more meta-sexual rather than trans or hermaphrodite (as in ancient Europe). I think temporary sex change is a very unique Japanese thing,

Your Name is especially important, unlike JAV, it's mainstream and globally successful, and unlike Ranma 1/2 which is comical and coy about the sexuality fuckeduppedness, Your Name went and have one of the protagonist (the boy) fondled the other protagonist (the girl)'s body. In many countries that this film was successful, this act is legally defined as sexual assault (despite the girl did not experience being fondled since she's in his body at the time). How the film didn't get cancelled by the media is beyond the smallness of my mind.

Anyway just saying Japanese fans don't think it's a big deal of a male soul (substitute for the viewing fan) forced to suck dick and swallow semen.

 

[Taako]

Anyway just saying Japanese fans don't think it's a big deal of a male soul (substitute for the viewing fan) forced to suck dick and swallow semen.

As I stated many times, JAV is primary for Japanese. And it makes sense some of their taste...and some if JAV fans taste is just different I am certain some Japanese are not comfortable with it.
But that's neither a here or there

I appreciate the insight about certain countries, religion, groups might view this subject.
I can easily see the perspective, of wanting to enter a female body and wanting to m***** it.
Such fantasies I had as a kid about my neighbor
But as I grew up, I wanted to be in on the act, not in a female body lol

I was curious about the genre but it didn't do anything but repeal me.
As a teen I might had found this movie "hot"... but once other males made you their c** dumpster I said NO WAY lol

 

[Taako]

I have to say, as a Gripe, porn stars who is resistant to doing something basic on camera.
I don't mean force stuff. That should NEVER be in porn, western or JAV, or anywhere.

I mean stuff like Julia and others, who constantly turns their heads or barely opens mouth for c***.

If you've been in the business for a long time, then its no excuse for such behavior unless something personal or contractual issues, etc.

But having these issues doing filming is odd.

You been in the industry, you know what's its about... and you're being paid.
So stop the head turning and suck it

 

[Vmaloy]

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I have to say, as a Gripe, porn stars who is resistant to doing something basic on camera.
I don't mean force stuff. That should NEVER be in porn, western or JAV, or anywhere.

I mean stuff like Julia and others, who constantly turns their heads or barely opens mouth for c***.

If you've been in the business for a long time, then its no excuse for such behavior unless something personal or contractual issues, etc.

But having these issues doing filming is odd.

You been in the industry, you know what's its about... and you're being paid.
So stop the head turning and suck it

I think it's a natural reaction that they can't help, although i admit cum dodging turns me on, i really do hope they know what they're getting into sometimes.

 

[Taako]

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I think it's a natural reaction that they can't help, although i admit cum dodging turns me on, i really do hope they know what they're getting into sometimes.

A veteran porn star should not have such reactions and those are the ones I'm talking about. Julia is good example.

 

[intrepid8]

(most girls with strapons just put it in an wiggle, they don't know how to thrust it). Akari Mitani is the best at fucking with a fake cock. (her trilogy DASD-476, DASD-636, DASD-812 was amazing, wish they kept going with it)

Couldn't agree more. Without some energy and hip rotation, strapon sex sucks. When it's on point it's some of my very favorite JAV.

Miki Sunohara, Nao Masaki and Kurea Hasumi are other actresses who generally do it well.

Young and new models are usually pretty bad at it.