Gripe of the month

[ding73ding]

My gripe for November came from, paradoxically a vid that I quite enjoy. The vid is REBD-695, yes... ah no, I know we don't about IV. So it's actually not about IV, but IV does highlight my gripe: JAV idols don't wear high quality sexy underwear, and the productions don't pay nearly enough attention to shooting good footage of idols in various stage of undress.



REBD-695 starring Remu Suzumori 涼森れむ who's very beautiful and quite a good performer (she made an excellent Ejaculation Enforcer) but alas I can't honestly say I'm a fan. I prefer more curves, but still... she's a beatiful woman.

Anyway in this IV, I am especially impressed by how good she looks in underwear and lingerie (not surprising, curvey ladies look good naked, slim girls look good with some clothing on) so actually my gripe this month (as of now) is not supported by specific example. Actually i'm posting a counter example for my gripe. LOL OK I promise I will come back to this post to fill in some examples of poorly fit, unsexy underwear and production crew failing to highlight the idol's body and sexiness.

 

[Zen10101]

Never have a dude's face be the only thing in a shot. Just don't. We don't wait until the sex starts to get aroused, for example sometimes it's a kidnapping or peeping scene that's a turn on, and the last thing I need is some ojisans face trying to kill my boner. Storytelling? The women are the story, I don't need to see a r**ist looking angry as though it's gonna turn me on for some reason? If there was a film school for JAV, that should lead to an immediate failure, restart the whole course and pay your school fees again because you haven't learned anything.

Ok maybe that was a bit drastic, but at least keep them OUT of the shot once the foreplay starts. I do respect AV actors, they're the paintbrush while the women are the canvas (bad analogy, those are some beautiful canvas)...we don't need the painter sticking his face in there.

Another rant, thankfully this hasn't dominated JAV like it did western porn but I can't help feeling the taste of salty swear covered fingers when the men stick theirs in the women's mouths. I get that it's supposed to stimulate oral. I don't get how its a turn on. It's gross. It also utterly destroys the fantasy for r*** scenes because they would've been bitten.

 

[JAVinsight]

Well, I have another gripe. Jav-related.
Subbing.
I get no one knows the actual language, including me. And we all try our best...
But what is the point of changing an actual "easy" line???
Submitted for your evidence, i give you a picture.
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The CN sub/translation say My son is choosing a school near my home.
But if you look at the movie...
She say, It seems Steven, who likes Japan, chose this university.

Again it's a gripe. The author did well overall in the first parts. But for an easy line, he lost it here.
This is just a small example. Of course, I've seen worse.

Another gripe. Machine Translations. Not worth the time and do more harm if you don't correct it.
Other sites and posters will take Machine Translations without looking at them.
Then maybe post and charge it's members for shitty subs. Yuck.

My grip

What is the JAV movie code the picture belongs to?

 

[Taako]

Never have a dude's face be the only thing in a shot. Just don't. We don't wait until the sex starts to get aroused, for example sometimes it's a kidnapping or peeping scene that's a turn on, and the last thing I need is some ojisans face trying to kill my boner. Storytelling? The women are the story, I don't need to see a r**ist looking angry as though it's gonna turn me on for some reason? If there was a film school for JAV, that should lead to an immediate failure, restart the whole course and pay your school fees again because you haven't learned anything.

Amen, brother
Too many JAV I seen where the camera lingers on the guys face. Yuck.

Another rant, thankfully this hasn't dominated JAV like it did western porn but I can't help feeling the taste of salty swear covered fingers when the men stick theirs in the women's mouths. I get that it's supposed to stimulate oral. I don't get how its a turn on. It's gross. It also utterly destroys the fantasy for r*** scenes because they would've been bitten.

Never understood it. Not sexy. Doesn't make sense. Never felt the need to do that with any of my girlfriends.

In JAV, it's for the woman to taste their juices? Yeah, it's like forcing a man to taste his spunk.
I'm sure he would be all for it

 

[eeeb]

Another rant, thankfully this hasn't dominated JAV like it did western porn but I can't help feeling the taste of salty swear covered fingers when the men stick theirs in the women's mouths. I get that it's supposed to stimulate oral. I don't get how its a turn on. It's gross. It also utterly destroys the fantasy for r*** scenes because they would've been bitten.

I like fingers in a girl's mouth. It's supposed to be demeaning and humiliating and that's OK with me! As far as destroying the fantasy cos she would've bitten, first, I dunno if that's really true, you could say the same about sucking cock, and second, these girls in most r*** films do a LOT that isn't realistic - their protests are usually pretty lame!

 

[Taako]

What is the JAV movie code the picture belongs to?

STARS 843

 

[Zen10101]

I like fingers in a girl's mouth. It's supposed to be demeaning and humiliating and that's OK with me! As far as destroying the fantasy cos she would've bitten, first, I dunno if that's really true, you could say the same about sucking cock, and second, these girls in most r*** films do a LOT that isn't realistic - their protests are usually pretty lame!

Yes it is the same thing - that's why I hate blowjobs in r*** scenes too (excluding coercive r***), it ruins the illusion. Once there's a weapon involved suddenly they're the best blowjobs on earth!

I can kind of draw a line as to what I accept and reject about r*** scenes

Handjobs, blowjobs, riding - turn offs
Pronebone, arms pinned to the side, handgags - hot

Most r*** scenes are indeed lame and tame, but the 10% good ones still make up like a hundred or so films and I'm thankful for those.

 

[ding73ding]

All my waifus are taking October off!!!

Julia: average over 2 full titles per month, nothing for October, except an IV
Yua Mikami: her first off-month since forever
Mirai Asumi 明日見未来 probably her first off-month since debut
Hikari Asuna 梓ヒカリalso a rare off-month
Asuna Kawai 河合あすな off since late August
Hikari Sena 瀬名ひかりok a stretch to include her because she's never been a stable professional, but October is one more month she doesn't have a solo work.

So... to double my October blues, several waifus decided to take it easy in November too!

JULIA is taking November off too! Two full months off with only one IV, and for December only one CJOD title (in that one website I check). Hmm she's not retiring, (at her age it's not totally surprising, but she deserves a nice big multi-vid retirement phase). So what's with her? A (well to honest well-deserved) break just for some R&R? Offers dry-spell (highly doubtful)? Or... some plastic surgery? I know she's done enough for a career or two, I have even advocated for a timely retirement in the past. But her work-horse (work-cow?) professionalism, averaging two solo titles per month for year-in year-out, it's very difficult to ween myself off her tits.

Mirai Asumi continues to be missing, I even takes the extreme (for me) measure of checking her Twitter, okay so she's still doing in-person promo and keeping up tweets (once every few days) .... okay found a useful tweet: her next video will be Jan 3, a huge off-period, which she blames on "the new law". I hope that's all there is. Because... while I enjoy her awkward performance, I can imagine the fandom/industry not supporting her JAV career. Yikes... three full months, not a big deal if it's just one of my waifus, but timing is BAD.

Hikari Asuna, so actually I was lying... she did make a VR release for October, but I don't watch VR, so for me it's an off-month. And guess what, she's having a real off-month this month, November! But she will be back for December...

Asuna Kawai is back for November. Actually turns out she did make a title for October, but it wasn't on the website when I made my gripe.

Hikari Sena, I'm getting very scared she's leaving the industry for good, despite (I believe) the fans can't get enough of her. She never seems committed to a JAV career.

And a bonus-bump-gripe: Ayame Kinoshita 木下彩芽 the housewife/breast-feeding mom who gets horny and makes JAV in the day-time hours when her husband is working and her daughter is in the kindergarten. Well yeah I know it's a fabricated back-story but my dick gets hard for her. Sadly (but completely within expectation) her career is rapidly slipping towards obscurity and the minor studios don't know (or care) how to keep up the illusion/back-story. Yeah on her own, not worth a mention, but compounded with the very slow couple months for all my favs... I found myself missing even an average talent.

 

[Taako]

So... to double my October blues, several waifus decided to take it easy in November too!

JULIA is taking November off too! Two full months off with only one IV, and for December only one CJOD title (in that one website I check). Hmm she's not retiring, (at her age it's not totally surprising, but she deserves a nice big multi-vid retirement phase). So what's with her? A (well to honest well-deserved) break just for some R&R? Offers dry-spell (highly doubtful)? Or... some plastic surgery? I know she's done enough for a career or two, I have even advocated for a timely retirement in the past. But her work-horse (work-cow?) professionalism, averaging two solo titles per month for year-in year-out, it's very difficult to ween myself off her tits.

I advocate her for retirement. I'm sorry she was oaky to good in the past; a bit overrated imo. Still I admire her beauty and minimal PS(plastic) but it's been clear for years that she no longer "has it".
She needs to retired like Hitomi, or at least take a long break.

Hikari Sena, I'm getting very scared she's leaving the industry for good, despite (I believe) the fans can't get enough of her. She never seems committed to a JAV career.

I used to be a fan( that long black hair, nice thic body, pretty face) until Sumire drop kick her off the planet.
Hikari holds a place in my heart and pants, WAAAA-043 was my first exposure to her and she simply bodies swimsuits. However, she clearly never wanted to be an AV star. Her titles are few, they're mostly boring(if we're being honest). Her acting is ok. Her titles are all over the place. She doesn't know what kind of actress she wants to be imo. She needs to leave and have a good life.

And a bonus-bump-gripe: Ayame Kinoshita 木下彩芽 the housewife/breast-feeding mom who gets horny and makes JAV in the day-time hours when her husband is working and her daughter is in the kindergarten. Well yeah I know it's a fabricated back-story but my dick gets hard for her. Sadly (but completely within expectation) her career is rapidly slipping towards obscurity and the minor studios don't know (or care) how to keep up the illusion/back-story. Yeah on her own, not worth a mention, but compounded with the very slow couple months for all my favs... I found myself missing even an average talent.

Yes, she's a very average talent lol
So...that's the "back story" they created for her? hahaha I gotta love the studios imagination. Not even close to being within the realm of possibly. Imagine neighbors seeing film crews going in and out your home, almost daily and no housewife spreading gossip? Yeah, highly impossible lol

Remember the one about Mariana Shiraishi?(my fave btw) The made up story of filming in her home while her husband sleeping upstairs hahaha That story hung around for years. Then it became known, she was actually divorce or not marry when that rumor was circulating. Fans then went with the "husband away on business trip" excuse lol. JAV...all day...every day for me

 

[Taako]

Time for....
Gripe Of The Month
haha anyways...This being the New Year 2023 and things are new. This list will certainly piss some people off.

My Good and Bad List....

The Good: Older porn stars/Milfs have been holding the industry together imo. They simply rock.
Maki Tomoda, Reiko Kobayawa, Mako Oda, Reiko Hiraoka, Yuu Kawakami, Chitose Shoda, Eri Takigawa, Yumi Kazama, lori Ryouko, Sena Maihara, and many more.
Ladies who are in their 40's and giving some of the best performances in JAV. Incredible!

The Bad. Yet even the older ones can give weak to bad performances like...
1. Julia looks to be doing the same weak vanilla stuff, she's been known for years. Never take chances. Same boring shit.

2. Ootsuki Hibiki, Yui Hatano, Mao Hamasaki. I adore Hibiki but she's not embracing her milfy body.
Instead, she does bland lesbian movies with her besties Yui Hatano and Mao Hamasaki.
Enough! No more lesbian stuff with you 3 girls. It's boring now.


Young idols are a pleasure to fap too and relaible if they are willing to put in the work. They also might be able to move away from being lolis or schoolgirls and into other genres.
The Good. It's always great to see idols like Ichika Matsumoto, Sumire, Yuna Ogura, Nao Jiingui, Kana Mominogi, Karen Yuzuriha, and others push themselves.

The Bad. Rara Kudou. She destined to join the ranks of great lolis. Personally, I think she not.
Rara seems content to do the same getting fuck by fat uncles or dress up loli style and try to act cute and naive. It worked for a while but now it's the same repetitive performance.

As a loli, she doesn't give her all like Aoi Ichigo, Konich Marie, Atomi, Satori, Little MeMe, Aoi Rena, Shuna Kagami, Suzu Ichinose, Yui Nagase.

In the teen or schoolgirl genre, she is no Aya Miyazaki, Atomi, or Suzu Ichinose. Rara has lots of catching up to do.


I love big tits. A big tits actress can fall into 3 groups,
1st group. Big tits performers who can act and perform.
Mako Oda, Reiko K, Asahi Mizuno, Yuri Yoshina, Nao Jinguui, Saegusa Chitose(she is wild and sells it everytime, Ai Sayama, Yuri Honma, Rena Fukiishi, Hitomi(she gets counted as a bad actress but she's actually can act).
The list is endless.

Runner ups: Julia, Mao Hamasaki, Yua Mikami, and Mina Kitano. Yes I know I said they give vanilla performance, they do because they gotten lazy. But I feel they can act....somewhat.

The 2nd ground of big tits stars those who can't act but always performs.
Hana Haruna, Mio Kimijima, Aoi Tsukasa, Shiori Tsukada, Nene Tanaka, Minaom,

The 3rd group is big tits actresses who can't act or perform.
RION, Nanami Matsumoto, Hana Himesaki(very disappointed with her) She came to JAV and started releasing titles after titles and people were worried she burn out. I think that has proven to be the case. She never really perfected her acting and her sex scenes lacks. Too bad.
Amu Oohara, and more.


So...If there is a gripe, its the overrated or weak performances from these actress....
Rara Kudo, Yua Mikami, Mina Kitano, Emi Fukada, Julia, AIKA(I love her), Maria Nagai, Mio Kimijima, Ootsuki Hibiki(Love her), Yui Hatano, Aoi Tsukasa, Nene Tanaka, Arisa Seina, Kotone Fuyue, Hana Himesaki, RION, Kanon Kanon(really love her but she never stands out), Shiori Tsukada(love her), Hana Haruna, Mao Hamasaki(she was better with black hair), and...Yuu Shinoda. She lost the weight and her ass

Gripe#2. Can some of these older than dirt porn actors finally retire? It's getting disgusting seeing these old guys, except Abe, who's fat and sweaty.

Grip#3 June lovejoy need to retire ASAP. She is basically the karen you see in america.
Ugly. Nothing to look at. Ugh

That's it. My good and bad list of 2022! And some gripes!
Also note...
*The porn stars are active and not retire.
**I did used some past porn stars as references only

 

[BDrake]

Time for....
Gripe Of The Month
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The Bad. Rara Kudou. She destined to join the ranks of great lolis. Personally, I think she not.
Rara seems content to do the same getting fuck by fat uncles or dress up loli style and try to act cute and naive. It worked for a while but now it's the same repetitive performance.

Yeah, Rara's IR debut made me perk up, but now I'm pretty bored with her

Runner ups: Julia, Mao Hamasaki, Yua Mikami, and Mina Kitano. Yes I know I said they give vanilla performance, they do because they gotten lazy. But I feel they can act....somewhat.

Mao Hamasaki is nowhere near the ballpark of Julia or Yua Mikami. Mina Kitano is also in a different league in terms of performance. But it is true that Mao isn't doing the wilder stuff she used to. I still think her performances are great though.

The 3rd group is big tits actresses who can't act or perform.
RION, Nanami Matsumoto, Hana Himesaki(very disappointed with her) She came to JAV and started releasing titles after titles and people were worried she burn out. I think that has proven to be the case. She never really perfected her acting and her sex scenes lacks. Too bad.
Amu Oohara, and more.

I agree about Hana Hamasaki. Really beautiful but boring performance

So...If there is a gripe, its the overrated or weak performances from these actress....
Rara Kudo, Yua Mikami, Mina Kitano, Emi Fukada, Julia, AIKA(I love her), Maria Nagai, Mio Kimijima, Ootsuki Hibiki(Love her), Yui Hatano, Aoi Tsukasa, Nene Tanaka, Arisa Seina, Kotone Fuyue, Hana Himesaki, RION, Kanon Kanon(really love her but she never stands out), Shiori Tsukada(love her), Hana Haruna, Mao Hamasaki(she was better with black hair), and...Yuu Shinoda. She lost the weight and her ass

I agree about Yuu Shinoda.

Grip#3 June lovejoy need to retire ASAP. She is basically the karen you see in america.
Ugly. Nothing to look at. Ugh

June Lovejoy is a phenomenal talent - particularly her deepthroat BJs. She has also lost some weight recently. I want to see more of her.

 

[Taako]

Here comes another gripe
Recently on another thread, Maria Nagai name came up. But it wasn't about her.
So...I just wanted to gripe a little about her ass, or that thing she drags around these days

Why did such a talented pornstar decide to f*** herself up so badly?
It's not really a question. It's more a comment hahaha

I was looking for DASD-979 with Maeno Nana, who ass is perfect! It's big, shapely(some can disagree) and it's natural. Just like the haifu jav actress from the caribeans? Sorry for my spelling.
However, Nana-san is the better actress.

Anyways, I see DASD-698 on the same page, and Maria doesn't look too bad...not until JUQ-114.
*disclaimer* I haven't seen dasd-698. Just the screens. I seen small scenes of juq-114.

So in Juq-114. She can't bend over properly, can't do cowgirl position correctly, and the guy was overwhelm but not in a good way. At least from what I see.
Also it looks like you have to be a certain weight to handle her.

She can and will do JAV.. but not as before. That's my opinion.
I think, physically, she can only do certain poses now. Again, my opinion.
Seriously, in that movie, she was struggling to hold her ass because the guy wasn't strong enough lol
hahaha
Ok that's my grip

 

[BDrake]

Here comes another gripe
Recently on another thread, Maria Nagai name came up. But it wasn't about her.
So...I just wanted to gripe a little about her ass, or that thing she drags around these days

Why did such a talented pornstar decide to f*** herself up so badly?
It's not really a question. It's more a comment hahaha

I was looking for DASD-979 with Maeno Nana, who ass is perfect! It's big, shapely(some can disagree) and it's natural. Just like the haifu jav actress from the caribeans? Sorry for my spelling.
However, Nana-san is the better actress.

Anyways, I see DASD-698 on the same page, and Maria doesn't look too bad...not until JUQ-114.
*disclaimer* I haven't seen dasd-698. Just the screens. I seen small scenes of juq-114.

So in Juq-114. She can't bend over properly, can't do cowgirl position correctly, and the guy was overwhelm but not in a good way. At least from what I see.
Also it looks like you have to be a certain weight to handle her.

She can and will do JAV.. but not as before. That's my opinion.
I think, physically, she can only do certain poses now. Again, my opinion.
Seriously, in that movie, she was struggling to hold her ass because the guy wasn't strong enough lol
hahaha
Ok that's my grip

Yeah...i don't know what confidence issues made her want to augment herself that much. Maybe she wanted to REALLY stand out from other idols in a crowded marketplace. Maybe she wanted to really look for Western. Whatever her reasons it isn't doing it for me.

 

[ding73ding]

My gripe of December 2022 (yes I'm behind on gripping) Hmm... maybe I will give December a pass as I had very few titles to pick from yeah that's my gripe for December, NOTHING to pick, so I went and found some old (some classics from the 4:3 era) vids for fapping.

Ok so make this my fiirst gripe for 2023: DAMN DATING VIDS. Ok so finally the waiting from my October gripe is over, my waifus are back in action. But three of them release the exact same type of vid within a half month:
CJOD-369 JULIA
SSIS-570 Yua Mikami
IPX-978 Azusa Hikari

For those of you needing an explainer: A dating vid setup is thus: the idol was told nothing of the day's plan, she was given a handheld camera and informed by her manager to show up a public spot (e.g. near a train station) in the morning and wait for further information. According to the in-story plot, she wasn't even expecting to be doing sex work (AV filming) for the day, but of course very funny we know now it's legal requirement for studio/agency to pre-inform the performers of all filming details and have her sign (on a per job basis) a written agreement of the specifics her performance (I imagine details such as she is to be sucking cocks of each stud, with full names, with or without condom, or how many times the stud will ejaculate really or fakely on or in what parts of her body will be detailed) and have her signing being video-recorded and kept for legal records. So... our lovely performers have to fake surprised about who will show up and what he will do with her.

So she wait and wait... (because in Japanese dating culture, it's customary for the lady to be waiting for the dude) the pre-arranged stud shows up. Of course he's a veteran stud and not a stranger to her. He's also holding a small camera and both of them are filming themselves, so we are (supposed to) believe that there are no pre-written script, no cameraman, no director, no film crew. Just one stud and one idol spending some intimate time together. He informs her of the plan (and surprise!) they are actually have a date which include have sex in a hotel and record for a JAV title) and then we spend the 30-40 minutes of film follow the two engage in this "Standard Japanese Dating Experience" SJDE. What's an SJDE: we already done step one: girl wait for the guy at a public spot (he's not bring any gifts) they went and walk a bit in some commercial district, buying some snacks, maybe have a ride in some lame fun activity (we hear JULIA says she's never been on a ferris wheel before) or they do a purikura, finally the two arrive in a hotel and have sex. Yes a typical date is pre-scripted like this: buy some snack, have some lunch and/or dessert, take some funny photos in a purikura and have sex in a hotel room. After sex, it's evening, they went out for a bite, return to the hotel room and fuck again. Next morning, fuck again, and that's the end of the title.

So all three of my waifus went on such a pre-scripted date. Such kind of vid is OK for fapping if the idol and I have a long-term relationship (which is true for all three of them) and it's not a regular happening, like once in 2-3 years. But for these three rather different persona idols, for three quite different studios doing the same boring thing, after a months-long dry spell. AARRG!

Plus the two other idols Mirai Azumi and Kawaii Asuna doing their standard vanilla titles (creampie unban for Azumi, tits club for Asuna), it's a very very boring month.

PS: well like I said if you had a long term relationship with these girls like I do, you might actually enjoy watching their subtle difference during non-sexual situation. While the SJDE is identical, JULIA persona is young (and horny) MILF, Hikari is a cute (and horny) girl and Yua is a high-maintenance princess. If you can put up with 30+ minutes of platonic dating, it's kinda fun to watch, with subtitles.

 

[Taako]

My gripe of December 2022 (yes I'm behind on gripping) Hmm... maybe I will give December a pass as I had very few titles to pick from yeah that's my gripe for December, NOTHING to pick, so I went and found some old (some classics from the 4:3 era) vids for fapping.

Ok so make this my fiirst gripe for 2023: DAMN DATING VIDS. Ok so finally the waiting from my October gripe is over, my waifus are back in action. But three of them release the exact same type of vid within a half month:
CJOD-369 JULIA
SSIS-570 Yua Mikami
IPX-978 Azusa Hikari
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For those of you needing an explainer: A dating vid setup is thus: the idol was told nothing of the day's plan, she was given a handheld camera and informed by her manager to show up a public spot (e.g. near a train station) in the morning and wait for further information. According to the in-story plot, she wasn't even expecting to be doing sex work (AV filming) for the day, but of course very funny we know now it's legal requirement for studio/agency to pre-inform the performers of all filming details and have her sign (on a per job basis) a written agreement of the specifics her performance (I imagine details such as she is to be sucking cocks of each stud, with full names, with or without condom, or how many times the stud will ejaculate really or fakely on or in what parts of her body will be detailed) and have her signing being video-recorded and kept for legal records. So... our lovely performers have to fake surprised about who will show up and what he will do with her.

Thank you for the explanation. But personally, I feel everything in JAV is scripted.
These types of videos never seem spontaneous to me.
Even the "porn star" visiting "strangers" home have amateur actors.
NOT saying this was always the case.
I do know for instance about fan events. And those willing to pay the most and get the chance to fuck their fave star.

So she wait and wait... (because in Japanese dating culture, it's customary for the lady to be waiting for the dude) the pre-arranged stud shows up. Of course he's a veteran stud and not a stranger to her. He's also holding a small camera and both of them are filming themselves, so we are (supposed to) believe that there are no pre-written script, no cameraman, no director, no film crew. Just one stud and one idol spending some intimate time together. He informs her of the plan (and surprise!) they are actually have a date which include have sex in a hotel and record for a JAV title) and then we spend the 30-40 minutes of film follow the two engage in this "Standard Japanese Dating Experience" SJDE. What's an SJDE: we already done step one: girl wait for the guy at a public spot (he's not bring any gifts) they went and walk a bit in some commercial district, buying some snacks, maybe have a ride in some lame fun activity (we hear JULIA says she's never been on a ferris wheel before) or they do a purikura, finally the two arrive in a hotel and have sex. Yes a typical date is pre-scripted like this: buy some snack, have some lunch and/or dessert, take some funny photos in a purikura and have sex in a hotel room. After sex, it's evening, they went out for a bite, return to the hotel room and fuck again. Next morning, fuck again, and that's the end of the title.

It sounds sooo boring. And so scripted.
I guess if some romanticize their porn stars, they will see themselves as the actor--going on a date, visiting a park, and then fuck.
Anyways, I couldn't sit through this even if it was my faves.

So all three of my waifus went on such a pre-scripted date. Such kind of vid is OK for fapping if the idol and I have a long-term relationship (which is true for all three of them) and it's not a regular happening, like once in 2-3 years. But for these three rather different persona idols, for three quite different studios doing the same boring thing, after a months-long dry spell. AARRG!

I concur.

PS: well like I said if you had a long term relationship with your idols and If you can put up with 30+ minutes of platonic dating, it's kinda fun to watch, with subtitles.

Oh god no lol

 

[Taako]

I have another grip.. a grip I might have mention but I don't know.
Anyways...I called it "Wife or Husband(can be bf and gf too) who have sex next to their sleeping spouses".

I can't tell you how much I hate these scenes.

It makes no sense and it's unrealistic for JAV.
Who would risk this? No husband sleeps or wife sleeps like that, even with a disorder.
And I notice sometimes, it's the Son who does it to the mom. Really? The Son wants to be severely beaten or killed?

I have yet to see a scene where the husband or wife wakes up and catches the naughty. I hate these scenes.
Even some of my faves have done scenes like this and I simply can't fap to it. It's just too much.

Here are some screens for example. So you understand




And in picture #4 the guy simply drags the sleeping woman on the mattress into his room
He was smart. So I forgive him LOL

 

[Haidon]

I have another grip.. a grip I might have mention but I don't know.
Anyways...I called it "Wife or Husband(can be bf and gf too) who have sex next to their sleeping spouses".

I can't tell you how much I hate these scenes.

It makes no sense and it's unrealistic for JAV.
Who would risk this? No husband sleeps or wife sleeps like that, even with a disorder.
And I notice sometimes, it's the Son who does it to the mom. Really? The Son wants to be severely beaten or killed?

I have yet to see a scene where the husband or wife wakes up and catches the naughty. I hate these scenes.
Even some of my faves have done scenes like this and I simply can't fap to it. It's just too much.

I actually really like the absolute ridiculousness of these scenes. What really bugs me is that I've never seen the natural ridiculous extension of this situation: mom and son going at it, dad wakes up, and says.... ."no big deal, keep on railing her!" "Good on you, son!" Then maybe takes a trip down the hall and brings the daughter in to really go over the top. I mean, if we're gonna go off the deep end, why not completely drown in it?

 

[Taako]

I actually really like the absolute ridiculousness of these scenes. What really bugs me is that I've never seen the natural ridiculous extension of this situation: mom and son going at it, dad wakes up, and says.... ."no big deal, keep on railing her!" "Good on you, son!" Then maybe takes a trip down the hall and brings the daughter in to really go over the top. I mean, if we're gonna go off the deep end, why not completely drown in it?

True.
But since the movies is about mom/son, wife/boss, father-in-law/daughter, etc not getting caught,
it just makes sense the ones being cheated on, won't be okay with it.

And after 3 or more of these type of scenes, for me, they become a waste of time...unless they add the twist like you suggested

 

[Jack1956]

I agree on the totally unrealistic aspect of fucking mother/daughter/wife on the same bed or in the same room. On occasion it can be erotic but it is mainly dumb and a bit lazy to keep repeating these scenes.

The same goes for getting the husband drunk and fucking the mother/daughter/(usually) wife whilst the old man is crashed out and the boss/dad/neighbour/son pumps away a couple of feet from the poor sap.

Another gripe: boring and unnecessary masturbation scenes when the mother/daughter/wife finally realises she can't do without boss/dad/neighbour/son dick.

Yeah right

 

[Taako]

I agree on the totally unrealistic aspect of fucking mother/daughter/wife on the same bed or in the same room. On occasion it can be erotic but it is mainly dumb and a bit lazy to keep repeating these scenes.

I can admit some of it was erotic, at first.. but now I'm totally over it.

The same goes for getting the husband drunk and fucking the mother/daughter/(usually) wife whilst the old man is crashed out and the boss/dad/neighbour/son pumps away a couple of feet from the poor sap.

I've forgotten about this. So silly. I guess if a person is drunk it could happen but I wouldn't risk it.

Risky sex in porn can be fun but sometime too unbelievable.
This type of scene just goes overboard. Even to the point of having the cheaters put on hands on the "drunk" person while they f**k stupid.

Another gripe: boring and unnecessary masturbation scenes when the mother/daughter/wife finally realises she can't do without boss/dad/neighbour/son dick.

Yeah right

Ah yes. This sometimes happens after the woman is forced or r*** too. Makes zero sense.
I feel like this type of scene happens almost 80-90% of the time in most JAV haha