Gripe of the month

[Taako]

Have another grip--
It seems when I sub I can always find annoying stuff

The latest... 'BLEEPS'. Yes that annoying sound when something is censor in JAV.

Imagine wearing headphones to sub and the BLEEP happens? Not only does it almost cause a heart attack but it stings your ears

I notice 'BLEEPS' are present if actors using the F' word, cuss words, and names of body parts in English.
Sometimes not.
I even notice it's there a 'shota or lolita' age is reveal. I guess to imply its underage.
I notice 'BLEEPS' given to some Japanese landmarks, directions, products, districts, and etc.

But I have notice it in places where it makes zero sense.
For example, a girl is talking about a competition.. after her test is over. And in the middle of her talking, it BLEEPS. I can't understand why? Why censored that? And her parents is right there.

So yeah I'm gonna add something naughty in it's place, in spite of

But, I've seen where someone subbed the BLEEPS. And I wonder how is that possible?
Unless the subtitlers have a script, they are clearly making it up.

Another example... SUN-037 is notorious for it's BLEEPS. Probably the worse in years.
If you look at the Chinese subs. There's no way they can know what's being said unless they got a version of the movie without edits.
Look at the opening, you will hear a series of BLEEPS when Momoka Nishina is being interview. It's annoying af.

 

[ding73ding]

Have another grip--
It seems when I sub I can always find annoying stuff

The latest... 'BLEEPS'. Yes that annoying sound when something is censor in JAV.
Usually it makes me wonder how can the words in JAV be censor when the movie is about sex?

I notice 'BLEEPS' are present if actors using the F' word, cuss words, and names of body parts in English.
Sometimes not.
I even notice it's there a 'shota or lolita' age is reveal. I guess to imply its underage.
I notice 'BLEEPS' given to some Japanese landmarks, directions, products, districts, and etc.

But I have notice it in places where it makes zero sense.
For example, a girl is talking about a competition.. after her test is over. And in the middle of her talking, it BLEEPS. I can't understand why? Why censored that? And her parents is right there.

So yeah I'm gonna add something naughty in it's place, in spite of

But, I've seen where someone subbed the BLEEPS. And I wonder how is that possible?
Unless the subtitlers have a script, they are clearly making it up.

Another example... SUN-037 is notorious for it's BLEEPS. Probably the worse in years.
If you look at the Chinese subs. There's no way they can know what's being said unless they got a version of the movie without edits.
Look at the opening, you will hear a series of BLEEPS when Momoka Nishina is being interview. It's annoying af.

Bleeps are applied for different reasons, sometimes it's for privacy, both real or fake privacy. Sometimes it's legal (or pseudo-legal) cover-your-ass, it's actually NOT intended to block transmission of the actual meaning, just enough to avoid legal challenges. So it's quite possible to guess/know the meaning being bleeped.
Of course Chinese subtitlers are well know to interpolate/interpretate/inventate because (1) translator may not be professional, (2) spoken Japanese is just not very explicit half of the time. Anyway compare to English translations of J-anime/manga/films, Chinese translations have nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[Taako]

Bleeps are applied for different reasons, sometimes it's for privacy, both real or fake privacy. Sometimes it's legal (or pseudo-legal) cover-your-ass, it's actually NOT intended to block transmission of the actual meaning, just enough to avoid legal challenges.

Of course.
Honestly, I think BLEEPS in JAV are nothing more than to make the characters/story more 'naughty, risky, foul, secretive'.
I usually ignore it or add my own "spin" to it

So it's quite possible to guess/know the meaning being bleeped.

While yes, you can know some of the bleeps,
the examples, I given makes it impossible to know any of those bleeps, unless someone has a script.

Of course Chinese subtitlers are well know to interpolate/interpretate/inventate because (1) translator may not be professional, (2) spoken Japanese is just not very explicit half of the time. Anyway compare to English translations of J-anime/manga/films, Chinese translations have nothing to be ashamed of.

Agree.
Chinese translations if I used them , would be like machine translations. I just want the timecode

 

[intrepid8]

Yandex reverse image search consistently turns up no results or only super low quality shit for me as of a few days ago.

 

[Taako]

Another gripe that's already been mention. I'm certain. But let refresh our memory

Incessant talking.

For those who don't know the meaning.... it's (of something regarded as unpleasant) continuing without pause or interruption.
It's usually mean blabbing. Yakking. Noisy, etc.

I am one of JAV biggest supporters. I love that JAV does at a hint of realness to their movies. I do feel like most scenes are improv by the actresses and actors.

But what annoys me the most in 'incessant talking'. If you have a gf/wife/ female friends you know what I'm talking about.

I cite one one movie below. I will say the excessive talking might be the point of the movie, but it is loud, it is annoying, and it NEVER STOPS!
There is so much loud talking, I think the actors couldn't focus. It's a video I couldn't even fapped too.
There are more movies of this genre but they aren't nearly as painful to the ears.
AVOID AT ALL COST!

Also, RCT-758 isn't as noisy and some of the others. So... if you like the series you can still enjoy it.
Not sure why the director didn't tell the girls to be a 'little less loud' in Rct-826.

 

[Taako]

Gripe of the month... MAKUN, the actor.
He has been in lots of 'shotacon' movies such as the Sex Education series and others. Had sex with lots of actresses I like.
He no longer does porn..at least that I'm aware.
My gripe... his 'mumbling' acting.
I seen plenty of movies with him and honestly, he sounds like an idiot. Always mumbling his lines in EVERY movie.
Seriously...EVERY movie. It's the same speech pattern of a idiot. And I'm being nice.

However...the movies are generally good. He's not a great sex performer and he generally creates no excitement.
So I come to the conclusion, its the plot of the movie, the scenes, and the hot actresses who makes all the movies he works in...great.
Because... he mumbles like a idiot in ALL his movies. Or like a spoiled child.

I wonder why he quit porn? He was already looking too old to play 'shotacons' anymore and maybe the studios stop hiring him. Really that's all he did was those types of roles.

 

[gf25]

Major gripe in general: blurred faces and POV scenes in films whose main selling point is the contrast between the beautiful actress and the male performer.

As in, when the male performer is an old man, or ugly man, or fat man, or IR, or shota, or AMWF.

So frustrating... if you don't SHOW the actor it completely undermines the point of the fetish/taboo/genre.

One specific example: sometimes in the Glory Quest senior forbidden care series, they will do a POV blowjob scene and it's quite obvious they replace the old man actor with just a regular dude, you can completely tell by whatever part of his body/legs is in the camera shot. Like the actual POV scene is bad enough, but then you switch out the actor? lol

 

[Taako]

Major gripe in general: blurred faces and POV scenes in films whose main selling point is the contrast between the beautiful actress and the male performer.

As in, when the male performer is an old man, or ugly man, or fat man, or IR, or shota, or AMWF.

So frustrating... if you don't SHOW the actor it completely undermines the point of the fetish/taboo/genre.

One specific example: sometimes in the Glory Quest senior forbidden care series, they will do a POV blowjob scene and it's quite obvious they replace the old man actor with just a regular dude, you can completely tell by whatever part of his body/legs is in the camera shot. Like the actual POV scene is bad enough, but then you switch out the actor? lol

I see you point.
But I am the opposite. I think an 'actor' face isn't important to the overall story of most JAV. In fact, when the actors face is shown it's used wisely imo. We seen faces of the "boss/bad guy", "husband", boyfriend, or gangs.

The example you gave, seems like the studio was wise to blur the face. Can't have a 'young guy' being seen if he' supposed to be 'old'.
Same as some of the 'shotacon' stuff. 'old actors' suppose to be 'kids'. I wish they blur their faces. My opinion.

I think they get more of it right then wrong. But that's my opinion.

 

[gf25]

I see you point.
But I am the opposite. I think an 'actor' face isn't important to the overall story of most JAV. In fact, when the actors face is shown it's used wisely imo. We seen faces of the "boss/bad guy", "husband", boyfriend, or gangs.

The example you gave, seems like the studio was wise to blur the face. Can't have a 'young guy' being seen if he' supposed to be 'old'.
Same as some of the 'shotacon' stuff. 'old actors' suppose to be 'kids'. I wish they blur their faces. My opinion.

I think they get more of it right then wrong. But that's my opinion.

We can agree to disagree, because I guess we watch porn for different reasons.

I watch porn to *watch* it, I care less about the story and I don't want to use my imagination to pretend certain things are happening, like the old man is in the scene when he really isn't.

If I just wanted to imagine things, I can just close my eyes and think about them, I wouldn't waste my time watching it.

Reminds me of the American TV show "LOST". They put a lot of mysteries and cliffhangers in the show which created great intrigue, but the show ended and they never explained a lot of them. Afterwards the producers were asked "why didn't you explain so many of the mysteries?" and they said that they wanted the audience to use their imagination... I watch a TV show for you to show me an entertaining story, I don't watch TV to use my imagination and make things up in my head.

As for shota films, I just want them to be younger actors or at least younger looking. When it's quite obvious the actors 30+ year-old men and they just blur the faces to try to hide it, I just stop watching. The fantasy is dead at that point.

 

[Taako]

We can agree to disagree, because I guess we watch porn for different reasons.

I think we all watch porn for different reasons.

I watch porn to *watch* it, I care less about the story and I don't want to use my imagination to pretend certain things are happening, like the old man is in the scene when he really isn't.

I do both.

As for shota films, I just want them to be younger actors or at least younger looking. When it's quite obvious the actors 30+ year-old men and they just blur the faces to try to hide it, I just stop watching. The fantasy is dead at that point.

It's next to impossible to make a 'shota' movie where the main theme is a 'kid' and an 'older woman'.
They are never gonna be as young as they should be unless, it's hentai.

 

[gf25]

It's next to impossible to make a 'shota' movie where the main theme is a 'kid' and an 'older woman'.
They are never gonna be as young as they should be unless, it's hentai.

They can be young men, 18-22 or whatever. They can be even older as long as they look younger.

This also comes down to false advertising. If you're someone who is fine "imagining" things different than what you're being shown, that's fine for you personally, but if you're buying a film expecting something and they are using tricks like blurred faces and switching out actors, then I think that's unfair to the customer.

And if the argument is "well it's hard to find consistent actors that fit these niche/fetish roles" then I would say don't make a film that you can't actually make.

 

[Taako]

They can be young men, 18-22 or whatever. They can be even older as long as they look younger.

This also comes down to false advertising. If you're someone who is fine "imagining" things different than what you're being shown, that's fine for you personally, but if you're buying a film expecting something and they are using tricks like blurred faces and switching out actors, then I think that's unfair to the customer.

It can't be false advertising. It's been this way for decades. If the main audience see no problem with it and still consumes the product. Then the studios will continue during it the same way, as always.

It's not their problem that you can't fantasize or lack imagination. Just as if you were impotent or a virgin.

And if the argument is "well it's hard to find consistent actors that fit these niche/fetish roles" then I would say don't make a film that you can't actually make.

I think the studios does well to work with what they have. They might wish for consistent actors but that's a pipe dream.

 

[gf25]

It can't be false advertising. It's been this way for decades. If the main audience see no problem with it and still consumes the product. Then the studios will continue during it the same way, as always.

It's not their problem that you can't fantasize or lack imagination. Just as if you were impotent or a virgin.

I think the studios does well to work with what they have. They might wish for consistent actors but that's a pipe dream.

Well I agree that it seems to be working for studios so they will continue to prey on the desperation of their customers.

I mean you can probably give some people stick figure images and tell them to "just fantasize" and it'll probably sell. There's a lot of terrible low quality porn that has been selling for decades.

Doesn't mean it's not a legitimate gripe

 

[Taako]

Well I agree that it seems to be working for studios so they will continue to prey on the desperation of their customers.

I guess that would make us all a little desperate as we consume the product too.

I mean you can probably give some people stick figure images and tell them to "just fantasize" and it'll probably sell. There's a lot of terrible low quality porn that has been selling for decades.

Indeed. I still think JAV is some of the best.

Doesn't mean it's not a legitimate gripe

It's a good gripe nonetheless.

 

[Zhonda]

My monthly gripe comes after watching IPX-754, which I describe here:
https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/favorite-jav-r-films.2099506/post-4636079
Before the raep gets going, she roundly rejects her suitor’s advances with a slap to the face. But so clearly a fake slap. Do it for real! The fake slapping a chick is understandable (need to preserve the beauty, it’s her primary asset) but slap the dude for real! Take a hit and stop being a pussy! You’re not a JAV actor for your pristine delicate face!

 

[Zhonda]

Take a hit and stop being a pussy! You’re not a JAV actor for your pristine delicate face!

I’m going to check out NSFS-156 just to see how good this screengrab of a slap could be. I’m hoping it’s halfway decent and a spirited romp follows.

 

[intrepid8]

Based on the lack of skin deformation and any motion blur I'm predicting disappointment.

 

[Lil Socks]

I guess my major gripe is when the cover has the Actresses dressed a certain way (ex. in a cute fashion with pink white or whatever) but then in movie they are NOT dressed the same at all. The whole point of cover I thought is to show how they are dressed IN THE MOVIE?

Even worse is when they DO dress the correct way in but its all taken off within 3 seconds... also a bit of a gripe (for us who like a certain fashion AND keep it ON through whole scene). This might just be me, though

 

[Zhonda]

Even worse is when they DO dress the correct way in but its all taken off within 3 seconds... also a bit of a gripe (for us who like a certain fashion AND keep it ON through whole scene).

Totally agree! There’s thread all about outfits in JAV. No point to feature that outfit and not f*ck her in it!!!

 

[Taako]

I guess my major gripe is when the cover has the Actresses dressed a certain way (ex. in a cute fashion with pink white or whatever) but then in movie they are NOT dressed the same at all. The whole point of cover I thought is to show how they are dressed IN THE MOVIE?

Even worse is when they DO dress the correct way in but its all taken off within 3 seconds... also a bit of a gripe (for us who like a certain fashion AND keep it ON through whole scene). This might just be me, though

This is a good gripe. I often seen JAV stars in nice clothes ie swimsuits, short skirt/shorts and lingerie. And for me I think sometime seeing them NOT getting naked it good too.