Gripe of the month

[gregorsamsa]

Now they have these stellar stories that follow hentai manga scripts
and they are only done once. Why!!! For example, imagine if Asahi Mizuno did URE-055 and if Nao Jinguji did URE-066. To many classic storylines
are used just once and I think that's a tragedy. So, which actress should take up which role in you dream world?

Like when Ayumi Shinoda did DVDES-825, you got a classic & Kaho Kasumi followed the same script in DVDES-891... two! Classics

Somehow I now even hope you didn't know about this series (because it's likely to brighten your day): just recently, I remembered about it by chance because of another matter. But your gripe is on point: the same general story is repeated dozens of times, yet the same original story is not. I sense BS here. Maybe it's because they have to pay royalties? But as I imagine, these original stories should sell significantly better

 

[ToastFrench]

My Gripe of the Month... in general is that they have these series right, sure. We all have our favorite series.
The wife get dicked down by the photographer etc etc. We have different storylines followed many times, and then your favorite actress
comes along and does the role, knocks it out the park and we're happy. Now they have these stellar stories that follow hentai manga scripts
and they are only done once. Why!!! For example, imagine if Asahi Mizuno did URE-055 and if Nao Jinguji did URE-066. To many classic storylines
are used just once and I think that's a tragedy. So, which actress should take up which role in you dream world?

Like when Ayumi Shinoda did DVDES-825, you got a classic & Kaho Kasumi followed the same script in DVDES-891... two! Classics

One reason I like MissAV is they are good about showing all the related videos with the same or similar plotline, even if they are on different labels, as well as the series.

 

[gregorsamsa]

Japanese sites like DMM/Fanza are a good addition to that MissAV system (source: my personal experience looking for new BJ-focused videos to watch). The results match in many cases, but there are titles that get recommended only on on and not the other

 

[ramp_it_up]

Japanese sites like DMM/Fanza are a good addition to that MissAV system (source: my personal experience looking for new BJ-focused videos to watch). The results match in many cases, but there are titles that get recommended only on on and not the other

Facts, plus MissAV is missing alot of movies even though its free. I dont know if you remember r18, but that algorithm was spot on

 

[gregorsamsa]

Facts, plus MissAV is missing alot of movies even though its free. I dont know if you remember r18, but that algorithm was spot on

Oh yes, I do. Don't remember a lot about the system, but I lost a whole library on R18 (like ~50 titles; I prefer not to think a lot about that; at that time, I didn't know about downloading DRM stuff... and I didn't even expect it to go down)

 

[lraiden]

Fake cum and creampies.

 

[Zhonda]

Fake cum and creampies.

I’ve actually come (pun intended) to terms with the fake pies, assuming they got one actor and he’s saving it for a facial, which is more important to me to be real jizz.

 

[periph]

One reason I like MissAV is they are good about showing all the related videos with the same or similar plotline, even if they are on different labels, as well as the series.

I've wondered how MissAV's recommendation system is so good at related videos. There doesn't seem to be metadata that would link those videos together but their thematic recommendations is so good. Anybody know how they do it?

 

[Taako]

I’ve actually come (pun intended) to terms with the fake pies, assuming they got one actor and he’s saving it for a facial, which is more important to me to be real jizz.

But even facials are fake jizz in many cases.

I think it's more like...
I’ve actually come (pun intended) to terms with the fake pies...in general.

 

[gregorsamsa]

I've actually come (pun intended) to terms with the overall fakeness here and there (cum, condoms, tits, asses, makeup...). Jeez (pun intended), makeup is another thing: it's so omnipresent that we've all accepted it as inevitability. It takes someone not using makeup (or using the bare minimum of it) to make one remember how great it can be, what a real woman's face looks like. One of my ideals is a sporty woman in sneakers instead of heels, with minimal makeup (or none), with her nails covered with just transparent polish (or none), without even lipstick (maybe just balm)

Something like that (I searched for "sporty woman without makeup and nail polish" and Google gave me nothing relevant... so, I guess the only thing we can now rely on for actual no-makeup women is AI)... But again, the thing is that you can never be sure whether JAV is using fake cum — just "natural-looking" cum, or whether the girl is using any makeup — just "natural-looking" makeup

A sporty woman with a ponytail in sneakers without makeup, nail polish and lipstick

(It took dozens of tries before I got one that actually looked like she didn't have makeup on, and she still looks like she's wearing a lot of it. Obvious lipstick even though I even tried adding -lipstick. Not to mention the f...ck-up with hands)

Spoiler: P.S. Then again, there are titles that let you see your favs in all their... glory

Especially anything that relates to baths, showers, etc. Of course, there are scenes where even then the actress is wearing lots of makeup, but generally, it's a good way to find out THE TRUTH (the first case for me was Kaho, and I will never be able to forget the difference...). Gotta say, though, that Alice especially doesn't look so bad. And, as I said, there is something to this 生地 (unglazed, true-character, underlying texture etc.) look. But, again, even here, they are wearing lipstick

 

[lraiden]

I’ve actually come (pun intended) to terms with the fake pies, assuming they got one actor and he’s saving it for a facial, which is more important to me to be real jizz.

I've actually come (pun intended) to terms with the overall fakeness here and there (cum, condoms, tits, asses, makeup...). Jeez (pun intended), makeup is another thing: it's so omnipresent that we've all accepted it as inevitability. It takes someone not using makeup (or using the bare minimum of it) to make one remember how great it can be, what a real woman's face looks like. One of my ideals is a sporty woman in sneakers instead of heels, with minimal makeup (or none), with her nails covered with just transparent polish (or none), without even lipstick (maybe just balm)

Something like that (I searched for "sporty woman without makeup and nail polish" and Google gave me nothing relevant... so, I guess the only thing we can now rely on for actual no-makeup women is AI)... But again, the thing is that you can never be sure whether JAV is using fake cum — just "natural-looking" cum, or whether the girl is using any makeup — just "natural-looking" makeup



(It took dozens of tries before I got one that actually looked like she didn't have makeup on, and she still looks like she's wearing a lot of it. Obvious lipstick even though I even tried adding -lipstick. Not to mention the f...ck-up with hands)

I haven't. That's why I watch less JAV and don't but any new JAV titles any more. There used to be a point where while in Japan I would visit the local shops to buy movies. This year I was there. Didn't even bother. Yes most people don't care and that motivates these studios to create more crap. I don't blame them. They can more money selling garbage. The models never had it so easy. The male talent can do more movies in a day without cumming, the women get paid to do stuff any wife would do. They don't have to degrade themselves with facials or swallowing real cum. Basically its just watching movies on how to make babies. Like what's the point of watching it. They only things I watch are the 2000 - 2011 era now. It's got way out of hand now.

 

[gregorsamsa]

Yeah, it's just to continue the joke. I haven't either

And I also started to pay more attention to the 2000 era JAV. It has a different feel to it. Which is to be expected, but I still was surprised. And there were great BJ/deepthroat series at that time already (that's what I'm mostly interested), e.g. this one (that I plan to add to the list of favorites in my thread)

 

[ramp_it_up]

I've wondered how MissAV's recommendation system is so good at related videos. There doesn't seem to be metadata that would link those videos together but their thematic recommendations is so good. Anybody know how they do it?

My guess is the tag lines that described the videos, but when R18 started doing the changes, they took out certain tag lines and replaced and added way to many so the search got diluted. But missav is alright for what it has. R18 before the bulkshot was just better

 

[Zhonda]

But even facials are fake jizz in many cases.

It is a legitimate gripe when facials are fake. I can’t stand it.

The progress in demosaic and the right camera angle help when trying to convince myself whether it’s real. If the angle makes it hard to conceal any apparatus and the jizz doesn’t look like mayonnaise, I call it good. In the example below she looks pissed she got a facial. Love those.

MIUM-1078​

 

[gregorsamsa]

I started noticing it when I watched only Western porn: in Western porn, there are varying levels of fake cum (I guess) but more often, it's easy to tell that it's fake: it looks too watery and white at the same time, and it's especially noticeable in photo galleries that are shot separately from the scenes: then it looks too precisely and evenly placed

Good examples of real cum are Jesse Loads Monster Facials (you can even watch the BTS as proof, they are from start to finish, no cuts), and among fake ones... I can't name any specific studio that is known for it (and it seems that even the same studio might use fake cum in some cases, maybe for the galleries, and real cum in others, and maybe even in the same scene in the actual video but not in the gallery), but just yesterday, I found this gallery by chance, and it obviously looks fake. But if you watch the video of the same scene, the cum-shot is different, and it does not look fake at all. Basically, obviously, the action in the video and the photoshoot are two totally different things done separately

But on the other hand, that's what I like about Western porn: they have separate galleries, and it means that they often need to have to do the same scene twice: for the gallery and for the video. Which means that either you will have to make the actor shoot for real twice, in which case it's natural that there will be different amounts, placement etc., or you will have to use fake cum at least once, in which case it's more logical to use it in the photo shoot but make it real in the actual scene

What JLMF do is they photo shoot pretty much the same angles and positions before the video shoot, then they make the video, start to finish, with cum and all, and then they shoot the facial. So no fake cum needed

 

[headcrusher]

Something I hate about JAV is how disposable girls seem to be once they reach 25yo.

Takarada Arisa is a goddess and an exceptional performer. She's only 32yo and she's already doing mature videos. WTF!

 

[gregorsamsa]

It instantly reminded me about this recent discussion. Mio is only 35 here but looks much more mature. It's not limited to JAV though (e.g. Arabelle is only 35 as well but has been listed as a MILF multiple times already... and in the old days, 40+ women were considered "old women" already simply because people lived shorter lives on average; also, see Vsauce video on "old" photos)

I think it's more of a combination of individual characteristics, style in clothes, makeup and accessories, as well as some basic patterns like "bigger breasts = more mature" or, conversely, "acting like an airhead = young" etc.), and the overall emergence of the MILF genre is what we all should be thankful in porn: mature actresses can perform much longer, and we get to see them at very different ages

So, a combination of historical, subjective and other phenomena is what makes up a person's age that might be very different from their biological age

Also, maybe it's just a marketing move: to create controversy or simply to show her in this new role

 

[headcrusher]

It instantly reminded me about this recent discussion. Mio is only 35 here but looks much more mature. It's not limited to JAV though (e.g. Arabelle is only 35 as well but has been listed as a MILF multiple times already... and in the old days, 40+ women were considered "old women" already simply because people lived shorter lives on average; also, see Vsauce video on "old" photos)

I think it's more of a combination of individual characteristics, style in clothes, makeup and accessories, as well as some basic patterns like "bigger breasts = more mature" or, conversely, "acting like an airhead = young" etc.), and the overall emergence of the MILF genre is what we all should be thankful in porn: mature actresses can perform much longer, and we get to see at very different ages

So, a combination of historical, subjective and other phenomena is what makes up a person's age that might be very different from their biological age

Also, maybe it's just a marketing move: to create controversy or simply to show her in this new role

Problem is that there's an insane flux of new young and hot actresses. Whenever you open 141jav you see 10 actresses that you has never seen bofre. All of them pretty and with a nice body. Every single time.

Obviously japanese clients prefer really young girls, so when you are not "young" anymore... you have to be really special to have your spot in jav market.

 

[gregorsamsa]

Bitter mode: those Japanese clients are fools then. Every age has its beauty, etc. etc. Their rich philosophical tradition is wasted on them, same as their women

 

[lraiden]

Bitter mode: those Japanese clients are fools then. Every age has its beauty, etc. etc. Their rich philosophical tradition is wasted on them, same as their women

That is how they think in Asia. Most locals I talked with while in Asia would talk about the women they would hang out with, and they always went for the young under 24 years old. 18 - 20 is very good. beyond 28 is old territory to them. Many would be married with younger wives. As the wives reached 30s, they would have young girlfriends on the side 18 - 21 range.