Harem and Reverse Orgy Javs. Are they Good or are they Great?

[hypemx7]

Anyone else think Harem and Reverse Orgy JAVs are just the proverbial Bee's knees?
The production value and the "entertainment" value of JAVs that fall within the category are just awesome.

For the past year or so I've been consuming Harem and Reverse Orgy JAVs (One male, Multiple females) at an exceptional pace.
(for example, finished watching all the Zukkon titles within several weeks)
So running out of material to watch
I'm hoping JAV lovers on the forum with similar interests can put up some recommendations.

Please Recommend some of your favorite Harem and Reverse Orgy Javs.

3 things that I believe makes a good Harem and Reverse Orgy JAV.
1. One on One action leading to One male Multiple Female action
2. POV
3. All the females are fully involved and willing


Here are two of my current favorites, as an example:

SDDE-372

MIRD-163

I leave the future of my JAV enjoyment in your capable hands (no pun intended)

Thanks.


PS
On a side note, if anyone comes by a JAV VR that also falls within what I'm looking for, I'll be forever in your debt for finding such a Gem

 

[Supmop]

one male vs multiple females not reverse orgy, its called reverse gangbang

I don't like it, prefer real orgy (multiple males vs multiple females), 1 vs 1 or 3some MFF

 

[hypemx7]

one male vs multiple females not reverse orgy, its called reverse gangbang

I don't like it, prefer real orgy (multiple males vs multiple females), 1 vs 1 or 3some MFF

Reverse gangbang, noted.

Not a big fan of sloppy seconds so not much of a fan of orgies (in Porn or in Real-life)
Although most likely everyone (in Porn or in Real-life) are sloppy seconds, I'd like to stick to my fallacy

I'm going back and forth between VR porn and Harem JAVs, and I'm still in search for something that combines both elements.
I guess I'll have to wait until VR JAV starts filming in the same quality as VR Porn.

Couple more examples

AVOP-217

SNIS-573

 

[Supmop]

I also have movies with "only" 2 or 3 girls with one guy, I don't know if it counts (easier to find).

from some resources that I read, 1 vs 2 is threesome, 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 2 are foursome, to be qualified as gangbang, reverse gangbang or orgy the participants must be more than 4

 

[hypemx7]

Okay, so I will not mention those movies. We need a Wiki haha.

Personal preference wise, I still keep 4P content in my harem & reverse gangbang folders.
If it's 1v3, real estate is fully covered lmao (one girl in each arm while one to ride / one girl takes care of upper half, one girl the bottom half, one girl is riding / and so forth variations)
I some times get annoyed in 4P, Harem/Reverse Gangbang vids where some of them are just standing around and doing nothing (Earn that JAV money I say)!

Another example:

T28-434

 

[Supmop]

Okay, so I will not mention those movies. We need a Wiki haha.

sorry typo, I've correct it

you can mentioned it, I think harem have wider meaning, 1 guy vs 2 girls or more is qualified

5 participants can be qualified as orgy, reverse gangbang or gangbang

all zukkon bakon's videos qualified

 

[Supmop]

Personal preference wise, I still keep 4P content in my harem & reverse gangbang folders.
If it's 1v3, real estate is fully covered lmao (one girl in each arm while one to ride / one girl takes care of upper half, one girl the bottom half, one girl is riding / and so forth variations)

thats what harems should do, all must do teamwork to please their master

I some times get annoyed in 4P, Harem/Reverse Gangbang vids where some of them are just standing around and doing nothing (Earn that JAV money I say)!

thats why I prefer orgy

rare to see girls doing nothing

 

[abadguy87]

any good uncensored reverse gangbang title?

 

[hypemx7]

I will add some other movie exemples



I also don't like when some girls just wait their turn. If they do some lesbian activity while they aren't pleasuring the guy, I find it really hot.

I had T28-383 before, because I found Shindou Ayumi attractive but she did very few movies before disappearing.
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SDDE-380 (with the cute Momoka Sakura, on the cover) I really like the theme
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I checked out SDDE-380
It was quite fappable!
Thank you for the suggestion dark

I only wish they made more of the series

 

[ding73ding]

I agree. I never found another public baths movie as hot as this one. Most of time, it's gangbang not harem.

Ahh yes it was a recurring fantasy of my teenage years, to be magically ignored, or treated as normal, to enter a female bath or changing room and watch and touch and finally fuck many women in there.

It's surprising how there are so many onsen or sento AV's but only a small number of formula genres. Another great and natural theme that's strangely missing is mixed bathing. Happened to come across this article so I bring it to this thread:

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/20...ed-bathing-may-verge-extinction/#.WJlcYEDj2R0

So not only mixed bathing still exists in Japan, but there are report of real life orgy (reading between the lines) at mixed onsen as recent as 2015. Why there's no AV of this idea?

Slight tangent: it's becoming more clear that Japan's morality police are putting pressure on anything to do with nudity and sex. Not just on AV and sex trade, but even non-commercial public bathing and/or orgy (offenses against public morals) are being targeted. And I get a strong feeling this swing to the Right was minimally motivated from domestic concerns, about 1/3 of the article was devoted to the heading "Foreign perceptions" and previous reports also hint that foreign influence was the main motivation to go after anything (even centuries old Japanese tradition) sexual.

 

[ding73ding]

For the record, 3P is never ever accepted as harem, group sex, orgy, gangbang or reverse gangbang. For any of these labels to apply you need to have a bit of disconnection on emotional level, or some kind of unmanageability. As someone mentioned, 4p is actually workable, esp. 1F3M, she has three holes, there are 3 dicks, it can work. 1M3F gets a bit difficult, but the guy has a dick, a tongue and two hands, so 4P is at least potentially a "equilibrium" (i.e. everyone can be pleasured simultaneously).

So for a "standard" harem/reverse gangbang scene, I think 4 girls (5P) is the minimum. The key points are (1) the guy is so outnumbered he's lost control of his body and become dominated by the females, (2) tension and competition between the girls, on one hand the girls are collaborating to dominate the guy, on the other hand, there's not enough body parts on the guy to satisfy every girl at the same time. Esp. a male player has limited stamina (sperm) so a good harem vid should have the girls fighting over both the cock in erection state and also the ejaculation events.

 

[ohtafan]

I leave the future of my JAV enjoyment in your capable hands (no pun intended)

I've made a thread a while back on the same theme (but minus the harem part, just many women on one man). Although there's a few duplicates you should check it out. I try to update it with my new findings.

https://www.akiba-online.com/threads/the-lone-man-movies.1692073/

If you liked SDDE-372, you should definitely check the rest of the serie :
SDDE-422

SDDE-431

SDDE-441

 

[ding73ding]

I can understand authorities's opinion. If you go with kids (or maybe public baths are strictly for adults) I would not want my kids to see people having sex in front of others. But even as an adult, if they want to do it for JAV, they should rent the location for 1 or 2 days. If that's just people who want to do exib, they need to be kicked out.

It's definitely not kosher to have public sex, that's pretty much illegal even in the most liberal countries. The old ways are pretty much lost now, but baths were family activities in old Japan. Even with 3 generations taking bath together.

But there's enough laws to prevent public sex, let's say some couples were caught in lewd acts in cinemas or sports stadium (regular happening in many countries) no one would propose to close down cinema or sports stadium. Only when there's a seperate motive to close down certain establishments that "XX is always happening in those places" is consider enough excuse to close down a legal activity.

It's like the other report that AV studio rented out a commercial premise, close it off, to shoot an orgy vid, and still got accused by the authority for public indecency. Also there was a report that morality police are prosecuting organizers and participants of "sex parties". It's a private activity, but if it's sex, the authority can find (false) ways to come after you.

 

[hypemx7]

SOD Create and Zukkon are pretty much the only studios that keep me interested in JAV (on average that is, sometimes there are a few exceptions from other studios like Moodyz)

What defines JAV for me above common Porn: the plot , imagination and production value.
Porn is dominated by Gonzo (wham bam thank you mam), and that's why I turned to JAV in the first place.
The combination of POV and imaginative plots (as outrageous as they may be) is brilliant in an age where we've been desensitized by the abundant availability of adult material.
Even with the annoying censors, it's still provides hellava higher entertainment value (and fappability) than what can be normally found in porn.

On that note, thank you once again for the suggestions.
Any and all vids recommended shot mostly in POV or at least in a Candid manner, will be put on my cue

Thank you for furthering my JAV addiction going on 14TB now

 

[Supmop]

SOD Create and Zukkon are pretty much the only studios that keep me interested in JAV (on average that is, sometimes there are a few exceptions from other studios like Moodyz)

What defines JAV for me above common Porn: the plot , imagination and production value.
Porn is dominated by Gonzo (wham bam thank you mam), and that's why I turned to JAV in the first place.
The combination of POV and imaginative plots (as outrageous as they may be) is brilliant in an age where we've been desensitized by the abundant availability of adult material.
Even with the annoying censors, it's still provides hellava higher entertainment value (and fappability) than what can be normally found in porn.

On that note, thank you once again for the suggestions.
Any and all vids recommended shot mostly in POV or at least in a Candid manner, will be put on my cue

Thank you for furthering my JAV addiction going on 14TB now

there are lot more studios with good productions, like : Moodyz, Honnaka, Kira Kira, Madonna

99% of porns around the world today are gonzo, but ofcourse compare to western porn JAV are better in creativities, and the performers are much real

"wham bam thank you mam", I call it "fast & furious sex" haha. It's annoying and that's also one of the reason I switched to JAV (plus more beautiful and natural girls, plot, ...)
I agree that even if there is a censorship, I really don't care about it and I'm completely used to.

haha we called it same name

I also call fast furious sex for the fast & powerful penetration style

 

[Supmop]

It's definitely not kosher to have public sex, that's pretty much illegal even in the most liberal countries. The old ways are pretty much lost now, but baths were family activities in old Japan. Even with 3 generations taking bath together.

But there's enough laws to prevent public sex, let's say some couples were caught in lewd acts in cinemas or sports stadium (regular happening in many countries) no one would propose to close down cinema or sports stadium. Only when there's a seperate motive to close down certain establishments that "XX is always happening in those places" is consider enough excuse to close down a legal activity.

It's like the other report that AV studio rented out a commercial premise, close it off, to shoot an orgy vid, and still got accused by the authority for public indecency. Also there was a report that morality police are prosecuting organizers and participants of "sex parties". It's a private activity, but if it's sex, the authority can find (false) ways to come after you.

morality police are stupidity in modern era

I think what you mean is the Moodyz's case, in that case I think the problem was they shoot orgy act outdoor, after whats happened now they are more careful, SOD bus curtain was closed before the sex act started

 

[ding73ding]

morality police are stupidity in modern era

I think what you mean is the Moodyz's case, in that case I think the problem was they shoot orgy act outdoor, after whats happened now they are more careful, SOD bus curtain was closed before the sex act started

Welcome to the post-modern, post-trump, post-truth era.

Well first let me declare I'm doing a lot of speculating from reading between the lines.

Yes it's the Moodyz case (IIRC an AVOP title). I don't agree Moodyz was in the wrong. The law being cited doesn't say "outdoor" or "indoor", it's about public indecency. There are thousands of outdoor onsens and everyday Japanese are practicing outdoor nudity (baths) while public nudity is clearly illegal. I don't know what was the final outcome in that case. I thought Moodyz' defense was solid enough, but of course in Japan (and most of Asia), having solid legal arguments may not be enough to keep you out of troubles.

Philosophically I think outdoor sex, the way cavemen did it, is absolutely morally allowed, even if it's sometimes distasteful, and illegal (protect the kids, always always the kids, the KIDS!).

About bus closing curtains, I again think you are a bit confused or distracted. I've never seen a vid from major studios (SOD, Moodyz, Million, S1 etc) do any public nudity/sex vid. There are outdoor sex, fake public sex, magic mirror bus, beach sex, tour bus sex, or car/van sex. I love those risque situations, so I was always paying attention. And every time, I think (and disappointed ) that there's zero chance a (real) pubic person has a chance to see or even hear anything indecent. Compare to some Euro porn (but also not major studios) that I was actually convinced nudity and/or sex was happening in busy street with innocent on-lookers, always in Eastern Europe or Russia.

So Moodyz or anyone else can't really be more careful, because they were not being careless previously. Unless you mean... was it in Star Wars or a Trump protest? "it's ok if I keep my head down".

 

[Supmop]

Welcome to the post-modern, post-trump, post-truth era.

Well first let me declare I'm doing a lot of speculating from reading between the lines.

Yes it's the Moodyz case (IIRC an AVOP title). I don't agree Moodyz was in the wrong. The law being cited doesn't say "outdoor" or "indoor", it's about public indecency. There are thousands of outdoor onsens and everyday Japanese are practicing outdoor nudity (baths) while public nudity is clearly illegal. I don't know what was the final outcome in that case. I thought Moodyz' defense was solid enough, but of course in Japan (and most of Asia), having solid legal arguments may not be enough to keep you out of troubles.

Philosophically I think outdoor sex, the way cavemen did it, is absolutely morally allowed, even if it's sometimes distasteful, and illegal (protect the kids, always always the kids, the KIDS!).

About bus closing curtains, I again think you are a bit confused or distracted. I've never seen a vid from major studios (SOD, Moodyz, Million, S1 etc) do any public nudity/sex vid. There are outdoor sex, fake public sex, magic mirror bus, beach sex, tour bus sex, or car/van sex. I love those risque situations, so I was always paying attention. And every time, I think (and disappointed ) that there's zero chance a (real) pubic person has a chance to see or even hear anything indecent. Compare to some Euro porn (but also not major studios) that I was actually convinced nudity and/or sex was happening in busy street with innocent on-lookers, always in Eastern Europe or Russia.

So Moodyz or anyone else can't really be more careful, unless you mean... was it in Star Wars or a Trump protest? "it's ok if I keep my head down".

I've repeatedly wrote in this forum that all JAV including the fans fuck, ecc are scripted so I'm aware those "public sex" are faked, but like you wrote here in most Asia having solid legal arguments may not be enough to keep you out of troubles, especially if its about moral

so I think whats they done after whats happened is a good precaution, ofcourse they don't want their video to be pull out from the market again and having legal problem again

just don't give that jobless, police wannabe in "moral police" excuse to sue and shake again

 

[ding73ding]

I've repeatedly wrote in this forum that all JAV including the fans fuck, ecc are scripted so I'm aware ...
just don't give that jobless, police wannabe in "moral police" excuse to sue and shake again

Oh I knew that you knew. I wasn't challenging you on that. Ok I've edited my post above to be more clear.

What I meant was that there isn't any sensible precaution that Moodyz can do (ie. give them police excuse) Unless they accept a "new normal" that previously allowed AV themes can not be made any more.

Sorry have to pile on an OT rant on an OT rant. Speaking personally I wouldn't mind if moral police attack the more extreme misogyny element in JAV. For example, physical violence and drugs. I don't support a ban, but I'd give pressure to the studios to tone down the violence and drugging women. Instead of that the moral police seems to go on an anti-sex, anti-porn assault. NOT GOOD!

 

[Supmop]

Oh I knew that you knew. I wasn't challenging you on that. Ok I've edited my post above to be more clear.

What I meant was that there isn't any sensible precaution that Moodyz can do (ie. give them police excuse) Unless they accept a "new normal" that previously allowed AV themes can not be made any more.

Sorry have to pile on an OT rant on an OT rant. Speaking personally I wouldn't mind if moral police attack the more extreme misogyny element in JAV. For example, physical violence and drugs. I don't support a ban, but I'd give pressure to the studios to tone down the violence and drugging women. Instead of that the moral police seems to go on an anti-sex, anti-porn assault. NOT GOOD!

no problem

unfortunately Moodyz seem to accept the "new normal" they give up bako bako bus tour, and I hope I'm wrong but I sense their videos has became softer

I support that too, should be no drugs and violence involved in porn, but unfortunately again, many of them are anti sex anti porn peoples mostly they worked not based on positive laws but based on hatred