JAV actresses with natural breasts

darksider59

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Those may be "smaller side" for porn, but for Japanese general population, those are big big tits. So purely on statistical basis, I give her (or anyone with big beautiful tits) less than 50% confidence.

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Yes they are/were in an idol group, but the group is meant to be "girl next door" type of girls. All kind of body types (even if most of them tend to be slender, some are slighly more "chubby"), and no way they did surgery (no way a 16 y/o girl [at that time] would get a boobjob, the 3rd pic). And this is just a few of them.


Some random thoughts.

Saki Okuda real.
Julia fake.
Nao Wakana fake.
Ami Yoshikawa fake.

I have heard nowadays you can graft fat to boobs now. Dunno if true or not. I didn't bother to research it.

But Japanese implants on average do look better than the telltale basketballs in the West.

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ding73ding

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Yes they are/were in an idol group, but the group is meant to be "girl next door" type of girls. All kind of body types (even if most of them tend to be slender, some are slighly more "chubby"), and no way they did surgery (no way a 16 y/o girl [at that time] would get a boobjob, the 3rd pic). And this is just a few of them.
"GND" is just a marketing/messaging gimmick. It only meant the target audience want to think, not what the real "typical" girl you find next door. Even in America, (IIRC, the phrase was coined by Playboy in their early history when the audience began to tire of "glamour") it never actually mean the average girl, but a very pretty girl who make-up, dress and talk like a normal person, instead of a pop idol, princess, diva, glamour girl, or prostitute.

About surgery, absolutely I believe the majority of *KB48 girls had at least one surgery done, perhaps boobs are not high priority areas for every *KB girls, but there's no reason at all to rule it out for any 16 years (or younger) girl in a pop idol group. Especially for Asian. Asian boob size is not that much smaller than white people. But (my pet theory) Asian boobs develop later. So if you take average boob size at 25, it's not a huge difference between Asians and whites. But if you take the average at 16 years old, the difference is huge.

J-pop is a cut throat business, a girl (or boy) lasting more than 1 year is already pretty lucky. Bikini gravue is one way to stand out amongst 48 (times N) group-mates. If indeed new technology is relatively safe and hard to detect, it would be naive to believe.

The reason I believe Aimi and not the HKT48 girl is not that I believe 16 year old JAV girl more than 16 year old J-pop girl. The reason is Aimi's boobs have been squeezed and bounced and swung literally thousands of times and I watch them 10 thousand times, and I haven't detected misshapening so I bet on the "real" side. So I tend to believe Aimi is that freak of nature one-in-a-million naturally busty early development (IIRC she said her boobs went bust when she was about 15) Japanese women. But busty J-pop girls, it's very rare to see them exposed, at least the bottom part of the boobs (see back to this post of a suspicious pix) and never a video clip of squeezing and bouncing. So I bet on the fake side. In both cases I can't be sure, of course. Aimi might be fake (perhaps she was fucking older guys for money when she was 15-16 and got herself a boob job and joined JAV at 18 years old) and HKT48 was real, perhaps, it's a possibility. But if we were betting money now, I have to make best guess based on available data.

And your response to @holyabdul why facepalm? I disagree with him for Julia and Aimi, probably Nao too... but Why get so invested in it. Everyone has his opinion and I see no point to declare my agree/disagree every single time.
 

darksider59

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"GND" is just a marketing/messaging gimmick. It only meant the target audience want to think, not what the real "typical" girl you find next door. Even in America, (IIRC, the phrase was coined by Playboy in their early history when the audience began to tire of "glamour") it never actually mean the average girl, but a very pretty girl who make-up, dress and talk like a normal person, instead of a pop idol, princess, diva, glamour girl, or prostitute.

About surgery, absolutely I believe the majority of *KB48 girls had at least one surgery done, perhaps boobs are not high priority areas for every *KB girls, but there's no reason at all to rule it out for any 16 years (or younger) girl in a pop idol group. Especially for Asian. Asian boob size is not that much smaller than white people. But (my pet theory) Asian boobs develop later. So if you take average boob size at 25, it's not a huge difference between Asians and whites. But if you take the average at 16 years old, the difference is huge.

J-pop is a cut throat business, a girl (or boy) lasting more than 1 year is already pretty lucky. Bikini gravue is one way to stand out amongst 48 (times N) group-mates. If indeed new technology is relatively safe and hard to detect, it would be naive to believe.

The reason I believe Aimi and not the HKT48 girl is not that I believe 16 year old JAV girl more than 16 year old J-pop girl. The reason is Aimi's boobs have been squeezed and bounced and swung literally thousands of times and I watch them 10 thousand times, and I haven't detected misshapening so I bet on the "real" side. So I tend to believe Aimi is that freak of nature one-in-a-million naturally busty early development (IIRC she said her boobs went bust when she was about 15) Japanese women. But busty J-pop girls, it's very rare to see them exposed, at least the bottom part of the boobs (see back to this post of a suspicious pix) and never a video clip of squeezing and bouncing. So I bet on the fake side. In both cases I can't be sure, of course. Aimi might be fake (perhaps she was fucking older guys for money when she was 15-16 and got herself a boob job and joined JAV at 18 years old) and HKT48 was real, perhaps, it's a possibility. But if we were betting money now, I have to make best guess based on available data.

And your response to @holyabdul why facepalm? I disagree with him for Julia and Aimi, probably Nao too... but Why get so invested in it. Everyone has his opinion and I see no point to declare my agree/disagree every single time.

Okay, saying most AKB girls did surgery, I quit. Watch street interviews, or anything outside showbiz, and you will see that there are tons of attractive girls in real life. AKB girls aren't special (a lot the 200+ girls are cute, but you can find that kind of girls everywhere, that's the point of the group). AKB girls have fan meetings every weekends, there is no way they can hide a nose PS, boobjob or anything like that. On top of that, they do livestream from their room with their fan a lot, post pics on social media on a daily basis.

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Oh and yeah, this band probably did surgery as well. It's not like I followed them for 6+ years, saw them/talked to them at a concert, and read their blogs (with pics) everyday. The drummer doesn't even have ear piercing because she's afraid of needles. Sure she would rather do PS with all kind of tools much scary.

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And I used a facepalm because people don't even bother to read what have been said here. Julia's fake ? A quick look through the years shows that her boobs shape changed when she got more tiny. Implants don't do that. At one point, if you don't even know how an implant look ... And Nao, really ? She maybe had done something to her face (or it's just makeup, but her chin is too sharp COMPARED to her debut. Your face change a bit through the year, but you can't get a sharp chin like that). But her boobs really ? Again a quick look at a sex scene or even a non photoshopped pic shows that they are real. There is no place for implants.
 

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Touka Rinne hast perfect natural breasts
 

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ding73ding

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Mmh, I'm pretty sure they are natural, but of course not 100%.
However, I'm not really seeing any evidence for implants in the pictures you posted.
Maybe you could post some more pictures so I could reevaluate.
No, the pix I posted are not "evidence", it's subjective. I look at them and "hmm... look suspicious", others look at them and "hmm... don't look suspicious". If (and when) I get around to download that vid (GVG-815) I would form a stronger opinion (one way or the other). In the meantime, feel free to (re)-watch the scene or other scenes involving "breast physics" (for those into Japanese sexy games like DOAX) and tell us your opinion.
 

earljames

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Ok, get it.
So I rewatched a couple of her clips and tried to find different angles of her breasts to find any evidence for implants.
So far I couldn't find any.
No visible rippling or any form of separation between an implant and the breast tissue
https://gfycat.com/DarkWeeLeafcutterant
They jiggle like hell and loose most of their volume when she's not standing straight
https://gfycat.com/NextIllegalGoitered
Same goes for when she's on her back, they fall naturally to the sides
and no weird flat space between them like it is the case with Marina Shireishi
https://gfycat.com/WhiteGargantuanFanworms
And here she is on her side, again no ripples or weird edges
https://gfycat.com/OffbeatInfantileDesertpupfish

For now I'm coming near the 100% certainty of them being natural,
but there is much more material and maybe there are some signs that slipped my eyes
 
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I have to say that I am highly suspicious when it comes to Sayuki Kanno and the naturalness of her breasts.
I going to gather some pictures or gifs to make clear what exactly I mean by that.
 

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I have to say that I am highly suspicious when it comes to Sayuki Kanno and the naturalness of her breasts.
I going to gather some pictures or gifs to make clear what exactly I mean by that.

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Please, can somebody tell me that's not true?
 

ding73ding

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Ok, get it.
So I rewatched a couple of her clips and tried to find different angles of her breasts to find any evidence for implants.
So far I couldn't find any.
No visible rippling or any form of separation between an implant and the breast tissue
https://gfycat.com/DarkWeeLeafcutterant
They jiggle like hell and loose most of their volume when she's not standing straight
https://gfycat.com/NextIllegalGoitered
Same goes for when she's on her back, they fall naturally to the sides
and no weird flat space between them like it is the case with Marina Shireishi
https://gfycat.com/WhiteGargantuanFanworms
And here she is on her side, again no ripples or weird edges
https://gfycat.com/OffbeatInfantileDesertpupfish
For now I'm coming near the 100% certainty of them being natural,
but there is much more material and maybe there are some signs that slipped my eyes
Well you have presented excellent sample of her breast physics. Thank you!

I complete respect you are 100% believer. I agree there's nothing wrong with how they swing and jiggle and wobble. I followed her early career for a while. But kinda lost track of her, not for any explicit reason but kinda out of laziness. Now thinking maybe I was subconsciously getting less than 100% happy about something.

Maybe if you ask me 6 months ago I would be in your camp. You can find some old posts of mine saying I default to believe if pix and clips show no negative evidence. Now ... from this thread and thinking over the amazing "growth" of busty JAV idols in just last few years. Statistics-wise just doesn't make sense.
 

earljames

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Well you have presented excellent sample of her breast physics. Thank you!

I complete respect you are 100% believer. I agree there's nothing wrong with how they swing and jiggle and wobble. I followed her early career for a while. But kinda lost track of her, not for any explicit reason but kinda out of laziness. Now thinking maybe I was subconsciously getting less than 100% happy about something.

Maybe if you ask me 6 months ago I would be in your camp. You can find some old posts of mine saying I default to believe if pix and clips show no negative evidence. Now ... from this thread and thinking over the amazing "growth" of busty JAV idols in just last few years. Statistics-wise just doesn't make sense.

I get where you're coming from, but I don't think one can or should judge a pair of breasts based on statistics, right?
It might be true that there are now more idols with breast implants than a couple of years ago, however, they will always be noticeable somehow.
Maybe not at first or sometimes second sight, but they never act completely like natural breasts.

Take Touka Rinne for example, I don't think her breast are natural because I want them to be natural,
it's just I haven't seen anything pointing towards breast implants. Actually every peace of evidence no matter what would be great to discuss. I have nothing agains fake boobs, but nevertheless I'd like to know.

Simply based on the gifs (not pictures because those can be misleading) or other clips, what would be your assessment of her breasts? I'd really like to know, maybe I'm missing something.
 

ding73ding

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Hmm I was trying to avoid an argument, but sounds like you are looking for a discussion.

About stats vs. individuals, it's a complicated topic. You can accuse me of racial profiling, and you'd be a little bit right. Luckily it's just my inconsequential opinion, not like a situation I hold a gun and I have to decide to kill a man or not based on a little bit of evidence and a whole lot of guessing.

How it works in my head is this: back in 2011 (most recent cover of Maria Ozawa I could find) a pair of tits like these was pretty much without competition:
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They were not just huge, they were impossible except for a haafu, a Japanese-Canadian mix.

If she debut today where would she belong? Officially she was E-cup, but today even G-cup tits won't necessarily get advertised as such on a cover. I certainly won't bother to check out every newbies with G-cup tits. So in less than 10 years, E-cup went from exceptional to average or even below average.

It might be true that there are now more idols with breast implants than a couple of years ago, however, they will always be noticeable somehow.
Maybe not at first or sometimes second sight, but they never act completely like natural breasts.
Yes yes I was in exactly that same camp until very recently. But you take the population statistics, you can account for selection bias (JAV doesn't represent population statistics), you subtract the detectable fakes, and it still is way too wacky that the median breast size of the apparently-natural-JAV-idols got so much bigger so quickly. Also this post had a huge impact, if a doctor doing physical exam (much squeezing and feeling of the tits) can't tell, how can I be sure just from pix and clips. So what happened in my head in just last month or so is I crank my suspicious index way up.

So Touka Rinne is great example. Until your post, I never had a doubt in her. And then I think well can she still pass my enhanced suspicion? The short answer is no. Your first clip look very very good. I was giving it a thumbs-up at first sight. But after a few loops, my eyes seem to see something, just a couple flashes just a frame or two. Near the end of the loop. Hmm not conclusive, but suspicious. And your third loop with her getting piston-fucked supine. Same thing I was very happy with it. But then my partner butted in and caught me doing what I was doing... so I had to share with her, she immediately said fake. So I looked again and sure enough after a few loops I start to see possible misshapening when at the end of the up-stroke her tits began to be pulled back down. So that's where I was last night. I finish my previous post (not wanting to say explicitly our negative conclusion), and went to bed and "investigate" my partner's breast physics.

Now you want a deeper probe.... ok... I rewatch the clips again and again... and even downloaded it and do something I almost never do: slow it down 10x and going back and fore frame by frame. Here is what I found:
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Now I am 100% sure: fake. Side note: takes a woman to know a woman. I believed her for so long, it takes my partner only one second to make her conclusion.

Let me be clear, I don't enjoy doing this. I perhaps much prefer to be blissfully ignorant. Discovering she is fake does absolutely no good to my life. It puts some doubt in every single one of JAV idols, even my forever-goddess Julia. I shall not ever try this frame-by-frame analysis on her.
 
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