Looks fake to be to be honest.I have to say that I am highly suspicious when it comes to Sayuki Kanno and the naturalness of her breasts.
I going to gather some pictures or gifs to make clear what exactly I mean by that.
I like Matsushite Saeko's breasts but I think she has done some kind of surgery because I've seen scars underneath her armpit and just below her breast along her ribcage in a few videos, especially when she's had lotion on her skin. That could be a scar from something else, of course, but I don't think so. The surgery isn't affecting the natural movement of her breasts though.What about Matsushita Saeko? are her tits real or fake? to me they look real but I'm not sure about that.View attachment 1635746
Misaki Honda is great! One of my favorites. Hers look real to me, for the record.By the way, Misaki Honda's movies are good ? I never watched her. And wow, Ao Akagi is such a cutie !
I'm not familiar with Minami Natsuki, according to Minnano-av, 夏希 みなみ is 88F/ 59 / 90 which is totally incredible. If I look at only those 2 pix you posted, I'd rate her a B- at the very stretch C+ cup size. But more to the point real or fake, I think your second pic is very obvious and conclusive: fake. When a girl arches back, to the point that more than one rib are showing (look below her right tit) then the tits should look flattened due to the stretching. But her two lumps look just the same size as her first pix. Also in that second pix, her left tit looks hexagonal rather than round. If you look carefully, even in her first pix with a relaxed pose, her left tit isn't totally round.
Minami natsuki real or fake?
Miho tono real or fake?
Asahi Mizuno real or fake?
Hmm I was trying to avoid an argument, but sounds like you are looking for a discussion.
About stats vs. individuals, it's a complicated topic. You can accuse me of racial profiling, and you'd be a little bit right. Luckily it's just my inconsequential opinion, not like a situation I hold a gun and I have to decide to kill a man or not based on a little bit of evidence and a whole lot of guessing.
How it works in my head is this: back in 2011 (most recent cover of Maria Ozawa I could find) a pair of tits like these was pretty much without competition:
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They were not just huge, they were impossible except for a haafu, a Japanese-Canadian mix.
If she debut today where would she belong? Officially she was E-cup, but today even G-cup tits won't necessarily get advertised as such on a cover. I certainly won't bother to check out every newbies with G-cup tits. So in less than 10 years, E-cup went from exceptional to average or even below average.
Yes yes I was in exactly that same camp until very recently. But you take the population statistics, you can account for selection bias (JAV doesn't represent population statistics), you subtract the detectable fakes, and it still is way too wacky that the median breast size of the apparently-natural-JAV-idols got so much bigger so quickly. Also this post had a huge impact, if a doctor doing physical exam (much squeezing and feeling of the tits) can't tell, how can I be sure just from pix and clips. So what happened in my head in just last month or so is I crank my suspicious index way up.
So Touka Rinne is great example. Until your post, I never had a doubt in her. And then I think well can she still pass my enhanced suspicion? The short answer is no. Your first clip look very very good. I was giving it a thumbs-up at first sight. But after a few loops, my eyes seem to see something, just a couple flashes just a frame or two. Near the end of the loop. Hmm not conclusive, but suspicious. And your third loop with her getting piston-fucked supine. Same thing I was very happy with it. But then my partner butted in and caught me doing what I was doing... so I had to share with her, she immediately said fake. So I looked again and sure enough after a few loops I start to see possible misshapening when at the end of the up-stroke her tits began to be pulled back down. So that's where I was last night. I finish my previous post (not wanting to say explicitly our negative conclusion), and went to bed and "investigate" my partner's breast physics.
Now you want a deeper probe.... ok... I rewatch the clips again and again... and even downloaded it and do something I almost never do: slow it down 10x and going back and fore frame by frame. Here is what I found:
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Now I am 100% sure: fake. Side note: takes a woman to know a woman. I believed her for so long, it takes my partner only one second to make her conclusion.
Let me be clear, I don't enjoy doing this. I perhaps much prefer to be blissfully ignorant. Discovering she is fake does absolutely no good to my life. It puts some doubt in every single one of JAV idols, even my forever-goddess Julia. I shall not ever try this frame-by-frame analysis on her.
I call fake. Too round and too firm even when she is lying down.
To be honest I don't think these new gifs are each on its own strong evidence. But once there's a doubt in your head, the more you stare at them the more they seem "off".Ok, after further "investigation" I changed my opinion and you might probably be correct about her breasts being fake.
It took a couple of her videos to find what I was looking for,
because the frames you posted didn't really provide enough irrefutable proof, in my opinion.
In this gif the bounce of her breasts looked a little bit off. They appear to be too stiff and do not jiggle enough
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Here again a rather suspicious bounce, it doesn't look like fat bouncing around but more like a undefiled bag shifting under her skin
https://gfycat.com/SardonicWanGroundhog
And last but not least the clip that really started to change my mind. The guy seems to press the implant to the side. Her sideboob becomes a lot more defined when he is pushing against her breasts.
https://gfycat.com/ScientificBareIrishwaterspaniel
Unless someone finds a reasonable explanation for this "misshaping" I would agree with you and assume her breasts are enhanced.
I owe you a thanks, I have nothing against implants when they are done as good as hers, but I'd like to know about them.
To be honest I don't think these new gifs are each on its own strong evidence. But once there's a doubt in your head, the more you stare at them the more they seem "off".
I want to ask now that you are on the fake side of the fence, how does that change the way you "enjoy" her? You kinda already answered that question, but I wouldn't mind talking it out. I think I already mentioned one of my all time fav, Shokotas, has implants. And joining this thread and discovering Touka Rinne has implant in the process, but at the same time my interest in her has went from "forgotten" to "fav" again. The clip of her skipping rope is absolutely fappilious. Do you know which vid it came from? Wait... 9 hours ago, did you created it? Please please please tell me!
Back in the day, some classmate had a T-shirt said "Professional Breast Examiner" but I feel that should not be a goal in itself. The point isn't the exam score, so to speak, the point is to "perform" the exam, you know what I mean!
I agree, one single gif wouldn't be enough evidence, but together they just show too many anomalies to ignore.
I don't know wether my perception of her changed at all, but if so it might possibly made her even more interesting.
I mean I love all natural breasts, but her's are so beautifully sculptured and move naturally most of the time.
It's like she has a little secret and if you look very closely it's sometimes possible to detect it. So, yeah I think she is pretty amazing.
And yes, I made this gif. The clip is from REBDB-310
May I ask what's your opinion on the aforementioned Yuka Minase and Miina Kanno? Also Haruka Sanada and the often mentioned Sora Aoi when it comes to fake breasts.
All four have some of the best breasts in the business, imho.
I haven't watched their stuff lately so maybe I'm making some breast physics gifs for further investigation
Impossible? I might be misunderstanding your point, but there are certainly naturally large breasted Japanese women...wasn't Saori Hara active before Maria? I'm far from an expert on JAV before I myself got into it (around 2013 perhaps), I can barely name any stars of the time beyond the biggest names, but I'm sure there were a fair number of women with bigger boobs than Maria both before and concurrent with her?Hmm I was trying to avoid an argument, but sounds like you are looking for a discussion.
About stats vs. individuals, it's a complicated topic. You can accuse me of racial profiling, and you'd be a little bit right. Luckily it's just my inconsequential opinion, not like a situation I hold a gun and I have to decide to kill a man or not based on a little bit of evidence and a whole lot of guessing.
How it works in my head is this: back in 2011 (most recent cover of Maria Ozawa I could find) a pair of tits like these was pretty much without competition:
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They were not just huge, they were impossible except for a haafu, a Japanese-Canadian mix.
Hmm I have a tendency to make too cute or too clever a point. So... of course I wasn't saying there are no busty Japanese natives or there were never any JAV idols with better figures. I was trying to say... I guess put it this way... her figure was at least two sigmas away, so it's almost more polite to the merely C- or D-cup colleagues by emphasizing MO's haafu backstory.Impossible? I might be misunderstanding your point, but there are certainly naturally large breasted Japanese women...wasn't Saori Hara active before Maria? I'm far from an expert on JAV before I myself got into it (around 2013 perhaps), I can barely name any stars of the time beyond the biggest names, but I'm sure there were a fair number of women with bigger boobs than Maria both before and concurrent with her?
Anyway I agree there are certainly a large number of fake boobs in the game, and some very blatantly so a la Azumi Mizushima (still such a hottie, no shade) but I'm willing to believe (or perhaps suspend disbelief ha) that girls such as Aika Yumeno and Sakura Miura might just be real~ I've certainly met the (admittedly somewhat rare) petite Asian girl blessed with naturally disproportionate, shall we say, assets.
Impossible? I might be misunderstanding your point, but there are certainly naturally large breasted Japanese women...wasn't Saori Hara active before Maria? I'm far from an expert on JAV before I myself got into it (around 2013 perhaps), I can barely name any stars of the time beyond the biggest names, but I'm sure there were a fair number of women with bigger boobs than Maria both before and concurrent with her?
Anyway I agree there are certainly a large number of fake boobs in the game, and some very blatantly so a la Azumi Mizushima (still such a hottie, no shade) but I'm willing to believe (or perhaps suspend disbelief ha) that girls such as Aika Yumeno and Sakura Miura might just be real~ I've certainly met the (admittedly somewhat rare) petite Asian girl blessed with naturally disproportionate, shall we say, assets.