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Inertia said:
I meant to write this in my other post, but I don't necessarily agree that JAV agencies are all-out evil 'bloodsuckers' as jwlim80 pointed out. We can disagree on that one.

You gotta realize that most of these women don't know jack about getting jobs, few have any higher education, they are doing jobs that may even take an adverse mental toll, etc. JAV agencies do pretty much *everything* for them: They'll get them jobs of course, they'll drive them to and from the set, stay on the set during shooting, be there as emotional support, be there as financial responsibility support (set them up with accountants, etc.), help manage their social network presence, manage their fan clubs, be their all-out concierge even when not doing jobs, and more. Agencies sometimes even take extra precautions by creating pseudo-companies for each actress so she can keep her real life resume padded in case she decides to return to 'real work' in the future. Otherwise she may have unexplained blanks from when she was doing AV.

I definitely do think they still take too much percentage, but 10-15% as it's done in Hollywood may be too low given the amount of work JAV agencies do compared to their western non-adult counterparts ("here's a job! Go and good luck!").
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good post Inertia :)

from their comments its clear they don't understand what agencies jobs are beside taking fee from their idols and forcing them to do AV :p
 
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Supmop said:
don't know whats will happen in Japan

but in US porn star have affair with celebrity would be good promotion for them
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Well she got an epic amount of harassment which caused her to delete her twitter, and cancel a bunch of events, multiple times, everytime she tried to comeback on twitter we'd only get a few weeks before she deleted it again so nooooo good press coverage for her, and all this came what like less then a year after she was threatened by a fan, like retirement is probably the best thing for her get away from all the harassment and comeback in a few years when everyone has forgotten about it
 
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Inertia said:
I meant to write this in my other post, but I don't necessarily agree that JAV agencies are all-out evil 'bloodsuckers' as jwlim80 pointed out. We can disagree on that one.

You gotta realize that most of these women don't know jack about getting jobs, few have any higher education, they are doing jobs that may even take an adverse mental toll, etc. JAV agencies do pretty much *everything* for them: They'll get them jobs of course, they'll drive them to and from the set, stay on the set during shooting, be there as emotional support, be there as financial responsibility support (set them up with accountants, etc.), help manage their social network presence, manage their fan clubs, be their all-out concierge even when not doing jobs, and more. Agencies sometimes even take extra precautions by creating pseudo-companies for each actress so she can keep her real life resume padded in case she decides to return to 'real work' in the future. Otherwise she may have unexplained blanks from when she was doing AV.

I definitely do think they still take too much percentage, but 10-15% as it's done in Hollywood may be too low given the amount of work JAV agencies do compared to their western non-adult counterparts ("here's a job! Go and good luck!").
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I agree with all your basic points- 80% is too high, more than 15% MIGHT be reasonable depending on the agency...though in Hollywood there is a bit more to agencies than just handing jobs as well, though may depend on the person. Some do have agency provided managers, whereas others will hire their own, etc. In her specific case, the reason her agency gave- twitter followers- is absolute bullshit though. Makes it sound like that cut was decided AFTER her debut, and not before (otherwise how could you tell), which in turn makes it seem like those terms weren't set in her contract and therefore also not negotiable by her, which also is complete bullshit. But moreover, her number of twitter followers has just as much to do with her agency (the promotion they're giving her, the type of deals they can get, the number and kinds of movies they book her for) as it does with her appearance and performance itself. With the industry being as secretive as it is it's hard to tell how much of this practice is standard (Definitely seems like the high cut taken is, at least), but it does seem like the agency she ended up with is terrible. Shame she didn't/couldn't research which agencies were decent or not beforehand, again an issue with the industry being as secretive as it is.
 
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Inertia said:
I meant to write this in my other post, but I don't necessarily agree that JAV agencies are all-out evil 'bloodsuckers' as jwlim80 pointed out. We can disagree on that one.

You gotta realize that most of these women don't know jack about getting jobs, few have any higher education, they are doing jobs that may even take an adverse mental toll, etc. JAV agencies do pretty much *everything* for them: They'll get them jobs of course, they'll drive them to and from the set, stay on the set during shooting, be there as emotional support, be there as financial responsibility support (set them up with accountants, etc.), help manage their social network presence, manage their fan clubs, be their all-out concierge even when not doing jobs, and more. Agencies sometimes even take extra precautions by creating pseudo-companies for each actress so she can keep her real life resume padded in case she decides to return to 'real work' in the future. Otherwise she may have unexplained blanks from when she was doing AV.

I definitely do think they still take too much percentage, but 10-15% as it's done in Hollywood may be too low given the amount of work JAV agencies do compared to their western non-adult counterparts ("here's a job! Go and good luck!").
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Maybe you know Lily here as Memori Shizuka. She had changed her Agency twice before and the third time is not the charm for her.

Perhaps she was looking for a better payout by jumping ship and didn't find out what she was looking for and had gain infamy as a troublemaker. In that case, why did Linx take her in at all after the first 2 times ?

Her time at Linx wasn't good as she only get filler roles with no proper credit and hence the small payouts. It just seem that they didn't do a proper job at taking good care of her as an agency should and just let her sit out and getting what they can squeeze out of her until she get the hint.

As Shimizu Ken puts it :-
"It's my belief that you can't be a pretty girl in this industry and also be happy. This business uses pretty girls up until they feel they have no value and they quit."
 
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paparoach408 said:
Well she got an epic amount of harassment which caused her to delete her twitter, and cancel a bunch of events, multiple times, everytime she tried to comeback on twitter we'd only get a few weeks before she deleted it again so nooooo good press coverage for her, and all this came what like less then a year after she was threatened by a fan, like retirement is probably the best thing for her get away from all the harassment and comeback in a few years when everyone has forgotten about it
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Thanks to those extrimists we might loose AV idol, and shame if police can't arrested those idiots
 
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AIKA really is doing escort work through there...I think. Unless I'm mixing names up, the brothel is well known for getting AV stars on staff and the asking price (120,000 yen) is probably what you'd expect.

jwlim80: regarding Memori Shizuka, I don't really know her and I'm sure outside of the agencies and those who she worked with, few people probably do on a professional level. Were the agencies giving her a hard time? Maybe? Or perhaps she herself was a bad apple causing agencies a lot of stress. It's hard to say and there's definitely not enough information to make a decision either way.
 
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Inertia said:
jwlim80: regarding Memori Shizuka, I don't really know her and I'm sure outside of the agencies and those who she worked with, few people probably do on a professional level. Were the agencies giving her a hard time? Maybe? Or perhaps she herself was a bad apple causing agencies a lot of stress. It's hard to say and there's definitely not enough information to make a decision either way.
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Have your heard of any AV talents being sacked by agencies ? I certainly don't. They either disappear, retire or quit on their own accord. It does seem bad for an agency to have a reputation of sacking underperforming or troublesome talents.

Certainly, in this case, without an official statment from Linx, it does seem that they are doing the bare minimum of getting roles for her, letting Hosho out to dry and squeezing what she is worth until she gets the hint to quit.
 
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Inertia said:
AIKA really is doing escort work through there...I think. Unless I'm mixing names up, the brothel is well known for getting AV stars on staff and the asking price (120,000 yen) is probably what you'd expect.

jwlim80: regarding Memori Shizuka, I don't really know her and I'm sure outside of the agencies and those who she worked with, few people probably do on a professional level. Were the agencies giving her a hard time? Maybe? Or perhaps she herself was a bad apple causing agencies a lot of stress. It's hard to say and there's definitely not enough information to make a decision either way.
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Some of the TNS members done some reviews on av escorts before too. $1,200 per a 90 minutes session might be worth it to some people. Also, there are some rich guys willing to shower them with gifts like yuria satomi. Some av actress post photos of them holding luxury brand bags.
 
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jwlim80 said:
Have your heard of any AV talents being sacked by agencies ? I certainly don't. They either disappear, retire or quit on their own accord. It does seem bad for an agency to have a reputation of sacking underperforming or troublesome talents.

Certainly, in this case, without an official statment from Linx, it does seem that they are doing the bare minimum of getting roles for her, letting Hosho out to dry and squeezing what she is worth until she gets the hint to quit.
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Plot twist :-
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BXOnsgyjJJa/?taken-by=pua1002
On her little known instgram account, she takes back her word of quitting the industry. Which kind of imply the sad truth of she knowing that she can't survive on another trade.

But the damage had already been done :-

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Though Google still have her name listed under her previous agency, the link is dead ( http://pub.linx.live/contents/model/4647/ ) So where will this girl turn to now with her tarnished name ? It's just show that you need to fall in line in this industry just like any other place.
 
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not sure that's really a career killer...lol. Not like she was a big name to begin with, besides there have been plenty of name changes. As long as she can find a new agency willing to take her on it's not actually a big deal imo.
 
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Lim3lighT said:
not sure that's really a career killer...lol. Not like she was a big name to begin with, besides there have been plenty of name changes. As long as she can find a new agency willing to take her on it's not actually a big deal imo.
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http://www.dmm.co.jp/digital/videoa/-/list/=/article=actress/id=1040786/

She used to be something at Prestige circa 2014 with her performance better above average. But her career choices have left her a has-been. No doubt that with the industry being a small circle, she will have very few places to turn to.
 
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silent1one said:
It's still a lot more tame than what they get in America.
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If their management did not give explicit permission to allow fondling, you are not allow to touch any of them in any way. They are, by contractual agreements, company properties.
 
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