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Supmop

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We don't know, but if they're foreign investors then there might be chances they'll recruit male and females from their own Country to stir up the industry since av in Japan is still legal in Asia. I know some Japanese might dislike it because Japan are always so proud of themselves and hate to see other nations that used to be below them are owning their businesses now.

yes they might bring foreign performers to JAV, and it could be good or bad

if people say it might ruin JAV, yes it might, as japan is the only country that porn industry still dominate by the locals
 

jwlim80

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and you believe to girl who claimed she was brainwashed to do AV ? where they take her ? Al Qaeda's traning camp or secret CIA facility ?

Nobody had come out to debunk and couter her point so far. Perhaps you like to be the first ?

Investigation had started and arrest made, so there are something valid in her accusation.
 

Supmop

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Nobody had come out to debunk and couter her point so far. Perhaps you like to be the first ?

Investigation had started and arrest made, so there are something valid in her accusation.

some people from the industry and some idols and ex idols come out and say the opposite, but like usually you won't accept that :D

there always be bad people everywhere, in her case she had crooked agency, but doesn't mean the whole industry are evil and all other accusations are true :D
 
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silent1one

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Saw another article there that said Goldman Sach fired an ex-av idol employee, which reminded me that its VP's daughter is a pornstar too. A very troubled drug addict teen that wants to get back at her parent is what I heard, but now she went back to the upper class lifestyle.
 

jwlim80

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some people from the industry and some idols and ex idols come out and say the opposite, but like usually you won't accept that :D

there always be bad people everywhere, in her case she had crooked agency, but doesn't mean the whole industry are evil and all other accusations are true :D
Unless the Agencies themselves come out and release some official statements, I'm incline to believe what the talents said out of humanatarian ground.

One can only judge so much when there is only one side of the story to weigh on.
 

ekop

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The court record may be sealed but you're definitely don't pay fine for criminal act, you pay fine for civil dispute
When do you hear a r**ist or murderer found guilty by the court and pay fine ... that's right, never :awas:
One can say whatever he/she can outside the court but inside the court the only thing that matter is proof and the punishment can reflect what's the charge is
 

Supmop

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Unless the Agencies themselves come out and release some official statements, I'm incline to believe what the talents said out of humanatarian ground.

One can only judge so much when there is only one side of the story to weigh on.

unless all the accusations goes to court, and decided AV industry has forced those girls to perform in porn, other than that mean what those girls said are fiction stories / bullshit :D
 

jwlim80

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unless all the accusations goes to court, and decided AV industry has forced those girls to perform in porn, other than that mean what those girls said are fiction stories / bullshit :D

Let's stick to the original point on accusations of AV talents being forced into selling sexual favors and escort services here.

Read the article again :-

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/0...n-career-despite-blowing-whistle-on-industry/

Investigations are done, people are arrested and court rulings are out which resulted in hefty fines. The verdict is a breach of labor law on the company's side :-

http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/160701/afr1607010019-n1.html

Maybe she was not force to perform in videos under contractual agreements, but certainly is forced to do other things such as selling sexual favors which the contract doesn't cover. If you disagree with me, find me the court rulings that points explicitly otherwise.
 
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ekop

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Let's stick to the original point on accusations of AV talents being forced into selling sexual favors and escort services here.

Read the article again :-

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/0...n-career-despite-blowing-whistle-on-industry/

Investigations are done, people are arrested and court rulings are out which resulted in hefty fines. The verdict is a breach of labor law on the company's side :-

http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/160701/afr1607010019-n1.html

Maybe she was not force to perform in videos under contractual agreements, but certainly is forced to do other things such as selling sexual favors which the contract doesn't cover. If you disagree with me, find me the court rulings that points explicitly otherwise.

f***rced sex = nonconsensual sex = r*** punishable by jail time
r*** (violating criminal law) and violating Worker Dispatch Act are two different matter
In certain US state r*** even considered as first-degree sexual assault

A haken company can be considered violating Worker Dispatch Act simply by not paying their dispacth worker
And a million yen is only about US$9200
 

silent1one

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Let's stick to the original point on accusations of AV talents being forced into selling sexual favors and escort services here.

Read the article again :-

http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/0...n-career-despite-blowing-whistle-on-industry/

Investigations are done, people are arrested and court rulings are out which resulted in hefty fines. The verdict is a breach of labor law on the company's side :-

http://www.sankei.com/affairs/news/160701/afr1607010019-n1.html

Maybe she was not force to perform in videos under contractual agreements, but certainly is forced to do other things such as selling sexual favors which the contract doesn't cover. If you disagree with me, find me the court rulings that points explicitly otherwise.
Av actresses doesn't get much respect offscreen and after retirement. Some even got fired from their normal jobs because of their past career choices through social media digging and shaming. Some of these rich foreign bosses and even obsess fans think they'll do anyone for money just because they do it with some unattractive individuals onscreen. You wouldn't expect the polite manner and light atmosphere house all these problems. Not every actress want to escort since there are higher chances for getting stds.
 
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jwlim80

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f***rced sex = nonconsensual sex = r*** punishable by jail time
r*** (violating criminal law) and violating Worker Dispatch Act are two different matter
In certain US state r*** even considered as first-degree sexual assault

A haken company can be considered violating Worker Dispatch Act simply by not paying their dispacth worker
And a million yen is only about US$9200

The interpretation of the law is different in Japan. Prostitution is illegal in Japan, but people do in all the time in Soapland and Deliheath as long as it's "consensual"

Morally, it may be r***. But everything is diluted and justified under the technicalities until it's a small breach of contract.
 

pikuseru

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I find Saki Kozai's story more believable, because she is not some anonymous accuser trying to erase her past, and she continues to make JAV. She has nothing to gain from being the public face of these accusations and lying about being forced to perform.
 

jwlim80

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Regarding being "forced". Say, you are given a job which you disliked and turn it downed.

But in return, you are told that if you do not take the job, you will be pass over for the next round of promotion in favor for the person that will take it. So you accept the assignment reluctantly. Is that still being called "forced" since no harm will come to your person when you refused the job ?
 
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ekop

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Regarding being "forced". Say, you are given a job which you disliked and turn it downed.

But in return, you are told that if you do not take it, you will be as a fact that you will be pass over for the next round of promotion in favor for the person that will take it. So you take the assignment reluctantly. Is that still being called "forced" since no harm will come to your person when you refused the job ?

No that's not how it work

I'm not native English speaker but I'll try to explain...
If you saying that you're being r***ing you have to prove to the court that there's physical force involved or you're being threatened/have fear of bodily injury/losing your life

You just can't say "I need the money so I reluctantly do it" as r*** in the court
If "r***" is that easy imagine how many protitutes will use that to sue their client
If "forced" is that easy imagine how many worker will sue their employer for forcing them to do something they don't like for hours every day
 

jwlim80

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No that's not how it work

I'm not native English speaker but I'll try to explain...
If you saying that you're being r***ing you have to prove to the court that there's physical force involved or you're being threatened/have fear of bodily injury/losing your life

You just can't say "I need the money so I reluctantly do it" as r*** in the court
If "r***" is that easy imagine how many protitutes will use that to sue their client
If "forced" is that easy imagine how many worker will sue their employer for forcing them to do something they don't like for hours every day

Any lawful court will agree with you, on that I concur.

Even if something is morally wrong, it will not stand to argument in court. You only need to look at Kozai's original tweet for that, she took the sexual favor-escort job because her agency remark that she stand to lose out financially as they will pass it to another willing party.
 

ding73ding

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2017-8-9: Yua Mikami 三上悠亜 "One-shot" star?
A gossip mag [most likely a Taiwan publication] reports that Yua Mikami was offered a big sum of money [almost 7000 USD] for a one-night sex service, through a middle-man. Further according to the middle-man, a even higher sum [16500 USD] was offered previously to no prevail. Supposedly the reason for rejection was that (she) was afraid the matter would be exposed to the public.

The magazine article kind of went all over the place in the middle. I carefully and painfully read the article all the way to end only to learn that it's all smoke and mirrors. The closest person "middle-man" managed to reach was only a local translator who previously receive marching order from the agency [probably meaning multiple connected parties of JAV side] that no questions of the AV side will receive any response. So the translator simply block the inquiry without relaying it any closer to Yua or her representative.

Oh my goddess. The reporter [and magazine editor] huffs and puffs to attract eyeballs to the idea that Yua Mikami might whore herself to Taiwan customers. But all there is to the article is that someone had some wet fantasy but fail even to express the offer to anyone remotely connected Yua Mikami. Fake news!!!

Anyway, while I feel it's my civic duty to debunk a fake news report, it's fair enough to consider if Yua Mikami is available to the suitable customer.

To quote directly a bona fide agent/manager from the same agency representing Yua Mikami: "pretty much every AV idols have a monetary price (for sex)"

Furthermore, Yua Mikami's own current manager 青木亮 was accused by an AV idol 香西咲 who formerly was managed by him. 香西咲 accused 青木亮 of forcing her to provide sex service to customers.

So AV idols selling sex is a definite "thing", or at least there's much talking about.
While AV idols are frequently doing gigs in Hong Kong and Taiwan, several "middle-man" are roaming the circles to sell idol sex service. One well circulated offer is "Yui Hatano is selling sex" [the most likely reason she got named is that she's the most popular, in-demand idol in Taiwan for many years]

So once, out of curiosity, I inquire about Yui Hatano's price at a brothel in Japan. [problem is, if the inquiry is only for curiosity, how likely it is the brothel would give a sincere meaningful reply?] The asking price turned out to be 5 million yens [46000 USD] followed quickly by "Japanese law enforcement is very tight lately, so if you are really interested (say you have the money in hand) you might still have to wait a while"

So really... is the 5 million yens price a serious price point? Or is it just outrageous number to get rid of trouble makers? Personally speaking with 5 millions yens in hand, I would spend it on many other things before blowing it for a 2-minutes release with even the lovely Yui Hatano.

So we might extrapolate this case to Yua Mikami. The reality is that prostitution is illegal in Japan [so while it does happen frequently if both the service provider and customers learn to keep a low profile], the authority is actively monitoring and catching some case of sex-for-sale. So any high-profile personality, especially AV idols [the authority have very little love for AV industry lately], would be wise to be very careful about this kind of matters.

As long as Yua Mikami is raking in the big money with legal activities such as shooting AV and doing public gigs in Taiwan and elsewhere, it's in her interest to stay "clean" from prostitution and protect her AV career.

So my personal view is that while Yua Mikami might have a price she would agree to sell her body, but it might be meant to scare away customers rather than expecting to make a deal. Even if some customers were to show up with the money, only other excuses would be used to give him the runaround. The thing is she could make just as much money doing a few more gigs to Taiwan, zero risk and she already shows she's very willing and comfortable about making money that way. So why would she take the legal risk?

But I can also tell my readers that it does happen that AV performers do come to Taiwan to perform paid sex service. Only it's nothing like what the magazines write about and it's a whole different story. [what I take the writer to mean is that it does happen that performers are selling but any "members of the public" is pretty hopeless to make the connection to close the deal, meaning, money alone, no matter how much, will not buy you a night with your fav idol]
 

ding73ding

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2017-8-11: Greet-and-meet cancelled, Aoi 葵 disappeared?

A previously scheduled Aoi's greet-and-meet was cancelled, her Twitter and Instagram account stopped updating, and worst of all, her agency dropped her name from their roster after a latest update of their website. So I ask the boss of her agency about her.

Previously, her representative would answer vaguely or evasively about how Aoi is unwilling to perform any work other than shooting AV. And she spend a lot of time traveling outside of Japan.

This time the answer was direct and to-the-point. The agency boss said, "we had a long and serious discussion with her about showing up promotion events [such as greet-and-meets] and other works, we weren't able to reach some understanding". So the agency made a grave decision: "we won't renew her contract."

So my immediate next question was, would Aoi still stay in the AV business. The boss smiled and answered, "Don't worry, there are other agencies willing to work with her, she's willing to continue shooting AV, and she should be keeping her nom-de-porn Aoi."

So that's my report, she's lost her contract with the current agency but she should still be making AV, hopefully a change of scenery will bring some good.
 

ding73ding

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2017-8-10: Kotone Suzumiya 涼宮琴音 [formerly 白咲碧] : I do AV for the sex, and it's easy work, easy money

My company brings Kotone Suzumiya to Taiwan for a "photo club" shot, it turns out to be a great commercial success. Tickets were sold out in a very short time.

With this opportunity, I bring to you a little Q&A with my personal fav Miss Kotone Suzumiya:

Q: it's now been 5 years in AV, why did you enter AV industry initially?
A: It's my interest. After graduating, I didn't think much before stepping in the industry, ends up I worked AV for 5 years already. Guess "hentai" [perverted, or slut] is my true nature.

Q: so what's your thought after 5 years?
A: At first I was nervous of course. But I became used to it, last year or two, it's been so easy. I think making AV is actually much easier then how I imagined it before I started.

Q: You are really nuts you know. You've came to Taiwan for some very successful gigs a few times, what do you think about Taiwanese fans?
A: I'm really surprised how much Taiwanese fans are supporting me. At first I though my sister 若月まりあ and I were brought here as second fiddles, but the fans are awesome. I'm so happy. And Taiwanese fans turned out to be so gentlemen, and shy even.

Q: future plans?
A: 若月まりあ and I formed a little [idol] group. Hopefully the audience gets a chance to hear us sing, or it would be great to hold a small concert.

Is that all, you say?? Well yeah I admit that's not much. But Kotone turned out to be rather shy and experienced with interviews, being nowhere near a top-rank idol in Japan. Everytime she gave an answer, she immediately glance at her manager in the background as if she's afraid to give a bad answer. Also she had her mensural period and were feeling some aches. [yeah thanks for reminding us she also bleeds from her pussy once a month, the image will be in my head next time I fap to her vid] So it's an interview way too short!
 
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